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JayW_1023
08-12-2009, 01:07 PM
In 2000:

1. Marcus Fizer, by Chicago...picked 3rd. He isn't even in the league anymore. Nuff said.
2. Stromile Swift, Vancouver...2nd pick...great hops, but has been as cluesless as a rookie his entire year.
3. Chris Mihm, Cleveland...7th pick...a servicable third string stiff picked 7th overall.

In 2001:

1. Kwame Brown, has the physical tools, but his fumbling hands and confidence issues made him nothing but a role player who plays underrated physical defense. Not the franchise player a no. 1 pick is supposed to be.
2. Rodney White, ended up in Detroit...showed promise in Charlotte but was out of the league not long after.
3. Eddie Griffin, Houston...showed flashes of promise, but also underachieved...but still had able chance to make it a solid career if not for his tragic untimely death.

In 2002:

1. Nikoloz Tskitishvilli, when Dirk became an NBA superstar...teams were coveting international players with similair attributes. For every Dirk there is a Skita.
2.DaJuan Wagner, a scoring machine in college...health issues derailed his career in the NBA.
3. Melvin Ely, the Clips already picked a similair player in Chris Wilcox, so this pick didn't make sense to begin with. Ely is a career bench warmer.

In 2003:

1. Darko Milicic, picked 2nd was supposed to be the ultimate European big with back to the basket skills and a great face up game. He instead became known in Detroit as the 'human victory cigar'. At least he 1ups LeBron, Bosh and Melo in rings.
2. Michael Sweetney, was compared to Brand...but even Anthony 'Pig' Miller had a more illustrious career
3. Reece Gaines...who?! Exactly.

In 2004:

1. Rafael Araujo, not the best export out of Brazil, and not the last stiff Utah has picked over the years
2. Robert Swift, Carrot top didn't really take full advantage of the starting gigs he got by default in Seattle.
3. Luke Jackson, after Chris Mihm, you thought Cleveland had learned by now...luckily this was after they drafted LeBron.

In 2005:

1. Yaroslav Korolev at 12, taking the Clippers to his homeland during NBA Europe Live is the high point of his career...before he even played a game in the NBA.
2. Ike Diogu, a career journeyman who teases with the occasional productive outing. He was picked 9th.
3. Fran Vazquez, you'd think he'd be joining Orlando now they have been a legit title contender...seeing how the Magic own his rights.

In 2006:
1. Adam Morrison, the stache was a tenacious scorer in college...but after his rookie year injuries struck and he hasn't been the same since...plus he left his comptitiveness in Gonzaga.
2. Shelden Williams, other than marrying Candice parker...the other thing people know was that he was picked 5th overall...way too high.
3. Patrick O' Bryant and Mouhamed Sene deserve a tie as they prolly are each other equals in the art of pineriding.

In 2007:
1. Corey Brewer, winning a national title increases your stock...but that isn't a good thing when you're Corey Brewer.
2. Brandan Wright, is buried behind Anthony Randolph and a part time performer thus far.
3. Greg Oden, he looks to become a solid defensive big...but the all NBA center people thought he would become is prolly a bit too much to ask of him these days.

In 2008 (speculating)
1. Joe Alexander, has underperformed in his rookie year for an eighth pick. He had the opportunity but Luc Mbah a Moute was the real steal for Milwaukee.
2. Jerryd Bayless, he was lauded with promise but couldn't overtake Sergio Rodriguez in Portlands rotation.
3. Danilo Gallinari, the kid has got fight and he certainly has the talent...but injuries have already made the road to fulfilling his promise very steep.

In 2009 (simply guessing)
1. Hasheem Thabeet, his piggy back ride on DaJuan Blairs back in a rebound battle makes me severly question his toughness...and his lack of offense will not make him a franchise player you need at no.2...he is a good role player sorta like Sam Dalembert at best.
2. DeMar DeRozan, the kid has hops but he looks more like the makings of DeMarr Johnson than Vince Carter...he has star potential but he doesn't look like an immediate contributer to me.
3. Tyler Hansbrough, he will be solid bench guy...but you don't draft an Austin Croshere clone at 12.

Hawkeye15
08-12-2009, 01:12 PM
I hate calling anyone from 2007 on a bust, they are still young, but good list. Brewer and Oden were hurt, and Bayless was buried on a depth chart. All 3 could very well end up good players

op12
08-12-2009, 01:29 PM
you may be right but 07 and 08 players may still turn out. i think brewer will be a good role def. specialist and oden will eventually become a solid big man. i also think wright will eventually turn out, he just needs some guidance. i somewhat disagree with 09. thabeet will be a poor mans mutombo in my opinion, if he is open to continue learning the game. also i think derozan will be solid and i will continue to defend hansbrough as i think he will suprise people.

JWO35
08-12-2009, 01:35 PM
Yeah, after 2006 you should have stopped...seeing that the other guys are still young and can still make a turnaround. And who in the hell is Reece Gaines anyway?

Chronz
08-12-2009, 01:36 PM
The term bust means just being an overall bad choice in retrospect right, like what about Jay Williams and Dermarr Johnson getting in accidents. Guys had some talent, but their injuries made them busts. What about guys who you draft but go on to play to their potential elsewhere like Diop. He was a bust for Cleveland but a decent player overall.

Or is a bust a guy who was a bad choice due to lack of foresight. Like they shouldve known he wouldnt have been any good. Mostly guys who look good because they are so much more developed than the collegiate players that once you take away their physical advantages in the pros they really struggle, guys like Melvin Ely and Al Thornton. God the Clippers have made so many mistakes.

Anyways I got a few notables with those parameters in mind;
2000
Eric Barkley: Played the least amount of games of anyone in the first round
Jerome Moiso: Drafted 11th and never stuck, he was always a great free agent pickup in NBA Live 02 though.

2001
Diop: All I remember was people complaining about his work ethic and weight. Not a good sign for a lottery pick.
Kedrick Brown: Celtics always fall for these guys (see Gerald Green)

2002:
Jay Williams: #2 pick and ends up playing less games than Marcus Haislip, thats a bust to me.
Skita, Nicolas: Started the euro bust trend didnt he?
Chris Wilcox: Example of collegiate success playing too much of a factor, hes a decent player, but I just have a problem with drafting surefire backups in the lottery, Id rather take a chance and miss then draft a guy I know I wont be needing.

2003:
Sweetney
Reece Gaines: I hyped him up so much back in the day



Rafael Arujo was drafted by the Raps by the way.

Chronz
08-12-2009, 01:37 PM
I hate calling anyone from 2007 on a bust, they are still young, but good list. Brewer and Oden were hurt, and Bayless was buried on a depth chart. All 3 could very well end up good players

Not Brewer dude, I cant recall a bit role player on a college team ending as anything more than average.

JayW_1023
08-12-2009, 01:41 PM
Rafael Arujo was drafted by the Raps by the way.

My bad....I prolly confused him with Curtis Borchardt (lame excuse)

Diggy_2
08-12-2009, 01:48 PM
Was Jay Williams even all that good

28+24+5=3champs
08-12-2009, 01:50 PM
im from new jersey so i got to see dejaun wagner play in high school. that kid could straight up score. period. i thought he was crazy back then for going to college but he can be credited for putting memphis on the map. he coulda went anywhere but he chose memphis cause his dad coached there. back then no one was going to memphis now they're a powerhouse. its ashame he had those stomach problems and never amounted to anything

Hustla23
08-12-2009, 02:07 PM
Haha good list. Lots of parts made me :laugh:

ex: Darko Milicic, was supposed to be the "ultimate European big" haha I thought that was cheesy, but hilarious :)

I don't agree with Danilo Gallinari though. :( He had a bad back the whole year and was playing at 60% health at most. He did prove to be a lights out shooter atleast. Hopefully this year , he can show what he's really got when he's 100% healthy. I think he'll be a stud.

I think Oden's problems are injuries, not ability. He's got athleticism and strength that go off the charts IMO. Just needs to stay healthy.

Otherwise, solid list.

clutchski
08-12-2009, 02:10 PM
I also think Oden likely has a bit of a mental issue being picked #1 and being surpassed by KD, if so when he gets over it I think he can explode.

MajorFloridaFan
08-12-2009, 02:12 PM
Yeah, after 2006 you should have stopped...seeing that the other guys are still young and can still make a turnaround. And who in the hell is Reece Gaines anyway?

The magic drafted reece gaines...woooo whooo

29$JerZ
08-12-2009, 02:34 PM
Bayless didn't get enough ippurtuniteis in Portland because they wanted a passing PG to play with Roy, how is he a possible bust?

Danilo was hurt and played at 60% yet the Knicks went 14-14 in games when he played with us and his +/- was our highest. Not a bust.

Joe is still a ? but in the few games I saw him play at he seemed to be overplayed by Luc, tha's how it works I guess.

Solid list but anyone over 2007 shouldn't be called a bust until 2 more years of work.

Chronz
08-12-2009, 02:35 PM
Was Jay Williams even all that good

I remember the highlight of his career was when both he and Jason Kidd dropped triple doubles on eachother. But looking at his stats Id say no, he went thru a stretch where Jmal Crawford was looking like a better PG, still he couldve been good.


im from new jersey so i got to see dejaun wagner play in high school. that kid could straight up score. period. i thought he was crazy back then for going to college but he can be credited for putting memphis on the map. he coulda went anywhere but he chose memphis cause his dad coached there. back then no one was going to memphis now they're a powerhouse. its ashame he had those stomach problems and never amounted to anything

Didnt he brake one of Wilts HS scoring records or something?

FlakeyFool
08-12-2009, 02:38 PM
why would you compare derozan to johnson? johnson had a serious neck injury, probably why he never became a better NBA player

not to mention derozan hasn't even played a game yet

Chronz
08-12-2009, 02:41 PM
why would you compare derozan to johnson? johnson had a serious neck injury, probably why he never became a better NBA player

not to mention derozan hasn't even played a game yet

Please tell me which of the 2009 draftees have played a game?

Also you never saw Dermarr before his injuries did you? Thats what hes expecting from Derozen and I agree, the kid will not do jack squat in the foreseeable future.

DitchDat
08-12-2009, 03:04 PM
You know what I just realize is hilarious?

Allen Iverson and Kwame Brown. Both number one picks. One a scoring machine and future Hall Of Famer, the other almost unanimously considered a bust.

Yet Kwame is on an NBA roster and AI is not :D Just thought that was funny.

I pretty much agree with the list. When u look back, some picks were unforgivable. But what we do need to keep in mind is that the NBA needs role players too... The superstars are fascinating and exciting, but they can't win by themselves, they need serviceable role players who do little things around them.

How much rock solid instant-impact players does every draft yield? 3? 4? 5?

B.JenningsMVP
08-12-2009, 03:10 PM
Bayless needs to be traded, he finna be hella good!
I dont think he can reach full potential in POR, he'll always be behind Roy, Aldridge as scoring options. He needs to be traded to somewhere where he can take over.
He reminds me of a Monta Ellis type player.

Hawkeye15
08-12-2009, 03:45 PM
Not Brewer dude, I cant recall a bit role player on a college team ending as anything more than average.

well, I am biased as a WOlves fan, but I think he will be a very good defensive player who rebounds, but as far as lottery picks go, he may not be recognized all that well. He was pick #7 however. Not a top 3. THere have been how many picks in that range that suck??? a ton. But he will make it in the league as a shutdown defender and rebounder. And if the Wolves run, like they are talking about, he fits in there as well. By no means do I expect him to be a great player though

what54!?
08-12-2009, 03:50 PM
to be fair I think bayless is just on the wrong team. The blazers depth was already deep and he, a rookie, wasn't gonna overtake anyone elses spot. I think he'll have a fine career ahead of him

FlakeyFool
08-12-2009, 03:55 PM
Please tell me which of the 2009 draftees have played a game?

Also you never saw Dermarr before his injuries did you? Thats what hes expecting from Derozen and I agree, the kid will not do jack squat in the foreseeable future.

I never said any of the draftees have played a game yet.

and to say hes going to do jack squat in the foresseable future proves how little you really know.

Hawkeye15
08-12-2009, 04:02 PM
I never said any of the draftees have played a game yet.

and to say hes going to do jack squat in the foresseable future proves how little you really know.

Chronz is one of the more knowledgable posters here, so be careful. And DeRozan has proved nothing yet. It was only his guess. I think he may be a decent player, but who knows.

AK23
08-12-2009, 04:06 PM
In 2000:

1. Marcus Fizer, by Chicago...picked 3rd. He isn't even in the league anymore. Nuff said.
2. Stromile Swift, Vancouver...2nd pick...great hops, but has been as cluesless as a rookie his entire year.
3. Chris Mihm, Cleveland...7th pick...a servicable third string stiff picked 7th overall.

In 2001:

1. Kwame Brown, has the physical tools, but his fumbling hands and confidence issues made him nothing but a role player who plays underrated physical defense. Not the franchise player a no. 1 pick is supposed to be.
2. Rodney White, ended up in Detroit...showed promise in Charlotte but was out of the league not long after.
3. Eddie Griffin, Houston...showed flashes of promise, but also underachieved...but still had able chance to make it a solid career if not for his tragic untimely death.

In 2002:

1. Nikoloz Tskitishvilli, when Dirk became an NBA superstar...teams were coveting international players with similair attributes. For every Dirk there is a Skita.
2.DaJuan Wagner, a scoring machine in college...health issues derailed his career in the NBA.
3. Melvin Ely, the Clips already picked a similair player in Chris Wilcox, so this pick didn't make sense to begin with. Ely is a career bench warmer.

In 2003:

1. Darko Milicic, picked 2nd was supposed to be the ultimate European big with back to the basket skills and a great face up game. He instead became known in Detroit as the 'human victory cigar'. At least he 1ups LeBron, Bosh and Melo in rings.
2. Michael Sweetney, was compared to Brand...but even Anthony 'Pig' Miller had a more illustrious career
3. Reece Gaines...who?! Exactly.

In 2004:

1. Rafael Araujo, not the best export out of Brazil, and not the last stiff Utah has picked over the years
2. Robert Swift, Carrot top didn't really take full advantage of the starting gigs he got by default in Seattle.
3. Luke Jackson, after Chris Mihm, you thought Cleveland had learned by now...luckily this was after they drafted LeBron.

In 2005:

1. Yaroslav Korolev at 12, taking the Clippers to his homeland during NBA Europe Live is the high point of his career...before he even played a game in the NBA.
2. Ike Diogu, a career journeyman who teases with the occasional productive outing. He was picked 9th.
3. Fran Vazquez, you'd think he'd be joining Orlando now they have been a legit title contender...seeing how the Magic own his rights.

In 2006:
1. Adam Morrison, the stache was a tenacious scorer in college...but after his rookie year injuries struck and he hasn't been the same since...plus he left his comptitiveness in Gonzaga.
2. Shelden Williams, other than marrying Candice parker...the other thing people know was that he was picked 5th overall...way too high.
3. Patrick O' Bryant and Mouhamed Sene deserve a tie as they prolly are each other equals in the art of pineriding.

In 2007:
1. Corey Brewer, winning a national title increases your stock...but that isn't a good thing when you're Corey Brewer.
2. Brandan Wright, is buried behind Anthony Randolph and a part time performer thus far.
3. Greg Oden, he looks to become a solid defensive big...but the all NBA center people thought he would become is prolly a bit too much to ask of him these days.

In 2008 (speculating)
1. Joe Alexander, has underperformed in his rookie year for an eighth pick. He had the opportunity but Luc Mbah a Moute was the real steal for Milwaukee.
2. Jerryd Bayless, he was lauded with promise but couldn't overtake Sergio Rodriguez in Portlands rotation.
3. Danilo Gallinari, the kid has got fight and he certainly has the talent...but injuries have already made the road to fulfilling his promise very steep.

In 2009 (simply guessing)
1. Hasheem Thabeet, his piggy back ride on DaJuan Blairs back in a rebound battle makes me severly question his toughness...and his lack of offense will not make him a franchise player you need at no.2...he is a good role player sorta like Sam Dalembert at best.
2. DeMar DeRozan, the kid has hops but he looks more like the makings of DeMarr Johnson than Vince Carter...he has star potential but he doesn't look like an immediate contributer to me.
3. Tyler Hansbrough, he will be solid bench guy...but you don't draft an Austin Croshere clone at 12.

sounds like hasheem Thabeet could be the next Deke :shrug:

FlakeyFool
08-12-2009, 04:08 PM
Chronz is one of the more knowledgable posters here, so be careful. And DeRozan has proved nothing yet. It was only his guess. I think he may be a decent player, but who knows.

he said "will not", so I'm assuming thats more then just a guess

tbo41fan
08-12-2009, 04:11 PM
Hey! Darko Milicic is in New York, the place that gave rise to the resurrection of countless NBA players! He's gonna turn it around! (Total sarcasm btw) lol

28+24+5=3champs
08-12-2009, 04:14 PM
Didnt he brake one of Wilts HS scoring records or something?

i didnt see anything about that but i did find this from wikipedia

He averaged 42.5 points as a senior, scored 3,462 points in high school (the most in New Jersey high school history, breaking former high school star Lorne Singleton's scoring record of 3,451 points) and scored 25 points in the McDonald's All-American Game.[2]

mitch91
08-12-2009, 04:34 PM
i would have stopped after about 06 and might not have out griffin in there...

Reddd
08-12-2009, 04:38 PM
I Agree that Stro Show is a mostly a bust, but he is the architect of my favourite dunk:
Just Awww (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GiLII8vw4A&feature=fvst)

Fireworld
08-12-2009, 04:47 PM
Great read.

Chronz
08-12-2009, 04:53 PM
I never said any of the draftees have played a game yet.

and to say hes going to do jack squat in the foresseable future proves how little you really know.
Then why are you pointing it out? He knows none of them have played, thats why if you would have bothered to read he acknowledges this fact by saying hes speculating moreso than the rest.

And lol at your 2nd comment. What makes you so sure hes going to pan out?

Carey
08-12-2009, 04:54 PM
Robert Swift was done in by injuries, I wouldnt necessarily characterize that as a bust

Chronz
08-12-2009, 05:02 PM
he said "will not", so I'm assuming thats more then just a guess

WTH? Since when are people suppose to know the future? This is a thread revising history, and projecting the future. Whenever your projecting the future its ALWAYS a guess. Its anybodies guess, Im just more emphatic with mine. I have my reasons, he could be a decent player way down the road but forseeable future means in the now and soon to be. From everything Ive seen he doesnt look ready.

Ill admit I dont know much about the guy, and there are some analyst that I respect that are high on him. But most of them seem to agree hes a few years away.

I combine that rawness with his athletic/statistical markers to assume hes nothing but a project at this point.

Chronz
08-12-2009, 05:13 PM
I Agree that Stro Show is a mostly a bust, but he is the architect of my favourite dunk:
Just Awww (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GiLII8vw4A&feature=fvst)

Thats awesome how hes dunking on a guy whos getting the same billing he did growing up. TT better not end up the next Stro Show

what54!?
08-12-2009, 06:12 PM
Thats awesome how hes dunking on a guy whos getting the same billing he did growing up. TT better not end up the next Stro Showhe will. I already see it coming

Tdots-Guido
08-12-2009, 06:29 PM
In 2004 Rafael Araujo was selected by the Toronto Raptors.

DaddyCool
08-12-2009, 08:04 PM
In 2004 Rafael Araujo was selected by the Toronto Raptors.

One pick before Iguodala too.

nbaguy123
08-12-2009, 08:26 PM
Gerald greennnnnn

KnicksR4Real
08-12-2009, 08:39 PM
Gallinari- Don't talk about him he was ijured, this year he will prove you wrong

Don't say that 08 and 09ers are busts because some didn't play yet whil others just got a year under their sleeves

Gnac76
08-12-2009, 08:59 PM
I dont see how u can say any of the guys from the draft class of 2009 are already busts.. unless its rubio if he doesnt wind up playing...

cowboyz180
08-12-2009, 09:07 PM
this list shouldnt have gone past 06

Toenail Clipper
08-13-2009, 12:10 AM
Bust = LeBron James

phoenix_bladen
08-13-2009, 01:31 AM
gallinari- don't talk about him he was ijured, this year he will prove you wrong

don't say that 08 and 09ers are busts because some didn't play yet whil others just got a year under their sleeves

+2

JayW_1023
08-13-2009, 03:38 AM
People seem to forget the fact that with 2008 and 2009 classes I am only guessing...and I have acknowledged that all those players may end up proving me wrong. But as of now they are all overhyped.

cmellofan15
08-13-2009, 03:55 AM
I would put Telfair up there, but maybe he's just a huge disappointment :shrug:

DeeJay
08-13-2009, 04:23 AM
People seem to forget the fact that with 2008 and 2009 classes I am only guessing...and I have acknowledged that all those players may end up proving me wrong. But as of now they are all overhyped.

Gallinari is not overhyped.
Have you seen him play?

JayW_1023
08-13-2009, 04:32 AM
Gallinari is not overhyped.
Have you seen him play?

Of course he is...he plays for the Knicks. But that said...I like the kid and he has alot of fight. But you're not telling me he will be a star from what we've seen so far. That would be an empty guarantee.

DeeJay
08-13-2009, 06:21 AM
Of course he is...he plays for the Knicks. But that said...I like the kid and he has alot of fight. But you're not telling me he will be a star from what we've seen so far. That would be an empty guarantee.

That I didn't say.
But his skill set is amazing for his size.
And I do think he will surprise a lot of people this season.
He was not healthy all of last year.