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JordansBulls
08-05-2009, 01:40 PM
Source: CBSSportsline (http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893)




Celtics managing partner Wyc Grousbeck didn't want to talk about the collecting bargaining negotiations he participated in Tuesday. But he had no problem anointing the Celtics as the "hands down" favorites in the Eastern Conference next season.

"I think we should be the favorites in the conference, hands down," Grousbeck said after emerging from a 3 1-2 hour bargaining session between the NBA owners and the players' union. "And we’re going to start proving that Oct. 27."

That's when the Celtics open the 2009-10 season against LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers. But it'll be a very different Celtics team than the one that couldn't get past Orlando in the conference semifinals. For one, Kevin Garnett will be recovered from the knee injury that caused him to miss the entire playoffs. "Just fine," Grousbeck said, when asked how KG's recovery was going.

Also, Grousbeck raved about the Celtics' big offseason acquisition -- the talented, enigmatic, and combustible Rasheed Wallace.

"I personally recruited him with five others guys," Grousbeck said. "My guys lobbied us for the signing because the players who’ve played the game for 10 years at a high level, they know who can help them and what they can do. They know the score. Rasheed was everybody’s first choice: ownership, general manager, and players. We all wanted to have him as a first choice, and we got him."

Grousbeck said he questioned Wallace about his status as the NBA's undisputed king of technical fouls and menace to officials during his 14-year career and was satisfied with 'Sheed's answers.

"He’s a feisty competitor, obviously," Grousbeck said. "We talked about that in the interview and the recruiting session. He said he means it always to try to help the team. He and his former teammates and coaches that you talk to when you do research on him, they love him as a player. Coaches love him, players love to play with him. The refs have mixed feelings, but that’s what refs are for."

Asked if he was prepared for all things Rasheed, Grousbeck said, "I actually told David (Stern) that I was going to modify my baseline ref assistance program a little bit to make up for the fact that we’ve got Rasheed. So I’m going to be doing a little less helping of the refs from the baseline. Just trying to even things out."

As for restricted free agent Glen "Big Baby" Davis, Grousbeck said the Celtics have had "a lot of conversations with him" and added, "We expect to see him in green. But things play out and you never know."

ManRam
08-05-2009, 01:46 PM
I think favorites is fair..."hands down" may be a bit of a stretch. They took Orlando to 7...without KG, their most important player. Rondo is becoming a stud. Pierce isn't gonna slow down anytime too soon. Ray Ray might a little bit, but he still attracts a ton of attention, and running around those screens all day is a pain to defend. I think the Sheed signing was HUGE. They now have as much size as anyone in the league. Their bench is good. If Big Baby comes back it might be one of the 5 best in the league.

Cleveland got exposed vs. the Magic. The Magic are a very different team, and whether you think they got better or not...they're not going to be the same team as last year.

Obviously he's biased...but I think they are more of a favorite than Cleveland, and until I get to see the new Magic team play (24 times on national TV!!!!!!), they are the closest thing to a sure thing in the East.

I still think the Magic and the Cavs can beat them in a 7 game series though...but I don't think anyone can say without a doubt that either of those two will.

Hellcrooner
08-05-2009, 01:49 PM
when your big three adds u to nearly 100 years you cant be te favourite.

sorry but i think orlando can beat them again.

Jays Claw
08-05-2009, 01:54 PM
The hands down favorite of the eastern conference is Cleveland/Orlando not Boston. :laugh2:

JayW_1023
08-05-2009, 01:55 PM
It's Boston first then Orlando than Cleveland. Boston will prolly try and tank as much as possible to enter the postseason healthy, so their record will not indicate how good they are. Their defense will be there to carry them and I think with the addition of Daniels and Wallace they can rest their aging stars more frequently, which is huge.

Cleveland will be the other way around...they will steamroll through the regular season and beat all the teams they should...but they still don't have the talent to compete with the elite in a postseason series. Their chemistry will be there, but the problem is still a reliable second star who can complement LeBron well.

Orlando will be a big question mark...I predict they will struggle in the first half of the season some to integrate all these new players they have...but they will surge in the second half. They sure look like the most dynamic offensive team in the East on paper, but chemistry is everything, and Boston with their veteran core are more likely to mesh well more quickly.

Lakers4ItAll
08-05-2009, 02:00 PM
Boston and Orlando are the favorites IMO

Gibby23
08-05-2009, 02:06 PM
I think they are the hands down favorites in the east if they stay healthy.

*Superman*
08-05-2009, 02:17 PM
I hate CBSSports, they are Magic haters, if you don't believe me, ill even find the articles, everything is always taking bad about the Magic. Not this guy, but i think his name his Mike something.

nyybronxborn
08-05-2009, 02:20 PM
they missed the finals by 1 game and missed there best player and added wallace , yeah they are the fav. to win it ,but i still like the magic 2nd and cleveland 3rd

Raps18-19 Champ
08-05-2009, 02:30 PM
Really?

They have the weakest bench out of Orlando, Cleveland and Boston. THeir starting lineup can probably be matched by the other 2 teams too.

Raps18-19 Champ
08-05-2009, 02:30 PM
I hate CBSSports, they are Magic haters, if you don't believe me, ill even find the articles, everything is always taking bad about the Magic. Not this guy, but i think his name his Mike something.

Just out of curiosity, if they had like 5 articles saying the Magic are the favourites to win the Finals, would you still call them a hater?

*Superman*
08-05-2009, 02:34 PM
Just out of curiosity, if they had like 5 articles saying the Magic are the favourites to win the Finals, would you still call them a hater?

??What 5 articles?

Chronz
08-05-2009, 02:34 PM
Why is Sheed valued as the better player, over McDyess?

Raps18-19 Champ
08-05-2009, 02:36 PM
??What 5 articles?

I'm asking a hypothetical question.

*Superman*
08-05-2009, 02:47 PM
I'm asking a hypothetical question.


Bandwagoners much?? I found the dude's name, Mike Freeman=Magic hater #1.

Maybe i called out all of CBS, but I'm not taking my opinion back about this guy.

Raps18-19 Champ
08-05-2009, 02:49 PM
Bandwagoners much?? I found the dude's name, Mike Freeman=Magic hater #1.

Maybe i called out all of CBS, but I'm not taking my opinion back about this guy.

Yea I was just wondering if it was all of CBS or just 1 guy.

pc4celts39
08-05-2009, 02:50 PM
I think the celtics and cavs are about even at the top. I also think the magic got worse from last year. Call me crazy but i'd rather have courtney lee and turk than vince carter.

Lakers4ItAll
08-05-2009, 02:57 PM
Why is Sheed valued as the better player, over McDyess?

Are you serious with this question?

Raps18-19 Champ
08-05-2009, 03:12 PM
Are you serious with this question?

Actually, Mcdyess has had as good of a season and Wallace the last 3 years. Mcdyss also knows his role unlike Wallace who thinks he is still a star.

CityofTreez
08-05-2009, 03:19 PM
IDK about Hands Down, but they got a much more improved squad w/ Sheed on their team.

Dwight Howard and the Magic are still high on my list to make it back to the Finals, even though losing Hedo & Lee will hurt them a bit, maybe a bruise.

TheKing23
08-05-2009, 03:21 PM
I think what you have to look at is what the have teams added and lost over the off-season so far.

Cavs
Added: Shaquille O'Neal, Anthony Parker, Jamario Moon, Danny Green, maybe Leon Powe
Lost: Ben Wallace, Sasha Pavlovic, Wally Szczerbiak, Tarence Kinsey, maybe Joe Smith

Magic
Added: Vince Carter, Ryan Anderson, Brandon Bass, Matt Barnes
Lost: Hedo Turkoglu, Courtney Lee, Rafer Alston, Tony Battie

Celtics
Added: Rasheed Wallace, Marquis Daniels (eventually)
Lost: Leon Powe, Stephon Marbury, Mikki Moore, maybe Glen Davis (probably not though)

Obviously Boston get a fully fit Garnett returning and that'll make a big difference, but apart form this I don't think there is any way you can make a solid judgement. Injuries can happen to anyone, and they always have a massive effect on the teams and their eventual records.
If you were to judge the Eastern Conference on off-season moves and try and predict where certain teams will finish, I think it goes Cleveland, Orlando, Boston. Cleveland and Orlando have greatly improved their teams (although Orlando lost Hedo Turkoglu), Boston have as well, but not to the extent as the others. Their bench looks real thin, with only Rasheed Wallace, Eddie House, and Marquis Daniels being the productive players off the bench, an injury to a starter could hurt them dearly... but as I said before, very hard to judge.

KmB728
08-05-2009, 03:22 PM
Really?

They have the weakest bench out of Orlando, Cleveland and Boston. THeir starting lineup can probably be matched by the other 2 teams too.

Thats a joke:
House, Daniels, Baby, Scal, Sheed
and possibly Bowen, and or Marbury to follow

magichatnumber9
08-05-2009, 03:26 PM
Why is Sheed valued as the better player, over McDyess?
Is this a loaded question

RaiderLakersA's
08-05-2009, 03:40 PM
Am I the only one that thinks that it's going to be a surprise team coming out of the East?

Nothing against Boston, Cleveland or Orlando, but I'd like to see one of the other teams get in... like maybe Atlanta or Philly. Here is the list of the last 10 or so Eastern Conference Finals representatives:

Orlando Magic
Boston Celtics
Cleveland Cavaliers
Miami Heat
Detroit Pistons (twice)
New Jersey Nets (twice)
Philadelphia 76ers
Indiana Pacers

TheMicrowave
08-05-2009, 03:47 PM
"Hands down".... no.

They are one of the favorites to win out of Boston, Magic, and Cavs.
I think it is..
1.Magic
2.Celtics
3.Cavs

You can't go wrong choosing any of the teams.

TheMicrowave
08-05-2009, 03:49 PM
Am I the only one that thinks that it's going to be a surprise team coming out of the East?

Nothing against Boston, Cleveland or Orlando, but I'd like to see one of the other teams get in... like maybe Atlanta or Philly. Here is the list of the last 10 or so Eastern Conference Finals representatives:

Orlando Magic
Boston Celtics
Cleveland Cavaliers
Miami Heat
Detroit Pistons (twice)
New Jersey Nets (twice)
Philadelphia 76ers
Indiana Pacers

I don't think there is going to be a surprise team. I think it is going to be Magic, Boston or Cavs.

Raph12
08-05-2009, 03:51 PM
Boston may be the favs, not hands down for sure, but favs none-the-less.

Orlando looks AMAZING on paper and the new acquistions to the starting line and bench look great, but all of these moves will be in vain should the chemistry not follow. That will be the reason why the make it back to the Finals to try and win the title or it'll be the reason why they tank and are eliminated in the second/third round.

Cleveland is a bit of a question mark also, how much does Shaq have left? can he accept a secondary/third option role? will he cost them on defense? will he clog the lane? how will he and Lebron mesh? Cleveland will be solid in the season IMO, but against Boston or Orlando in the playoffs, idk, everyone was jumping aboard the Lebron-express last season when the Cavs won 66 games, King James won MVP and the Cavs steam-rolled over Detriot and Atlanta. But as soon as they played one of the 3 other elite teams (LA, Boston & Orlando) in the Magic; they barely had a chance and everyone turned on the Cavs supporting cast. IMO Shaq, a 37 year old WAY beyond his prime, Moon, a late bloomer still unproven in the league and Parker a 34 year old defensive specialist will not put them over the top, but you never know, stranger things have happened.

Boston if healthy are the favs, because of the veteran exp on the team, but healthy and injuries will play a HUGE part in things. I expect them to blow out a gasket in the ECFs should they make it that far. Expect Chicago or Atlanta or another young team to run them around for at least 6 maybe 7 games in the first round. Cleveland or Orlando will both push their limits in the second and in the ECFs whichever team (Magic or Cavs) makes it there will finish what's left of the Celts. They are the favs to win the East IMO, but I don't think they can last in the playoffs, too much wear-and-tear for all of their mid-30s players.

Raps18-19 Champ
08-05-2009, 03:51 PM
Thats a joke:
House, Daniels, Baby, Scal, Sheed
and possibly Bowen, and or Marbury to follow

Baby isn't signed yet and Scalabrine is so garbage it isn't even funny


Cavs bench

C-Big Z
PF-Smith/Hickson
SF-Moon
SG-West or Parker(whoever is going to stay on the bench)
PG-Gibson

There is also hate possibility of Bowen and Powe.

Orlando bench

C-Bortat
PF-Bass
SF-Barnes
SG-Reddick
PG-Johnson/Watson

Both benches are better than Bostons.

Boston Faithful
08-05-2009, 03:53 PM
The hands down favorite of the eastern conference is Cleveland/Orlando not Boston. :laugh2:

Yup, Shaq, LeBron and the ***** are really going to lead them to the promised land.

Raps18-19 Champ
08-05-2009, 03:55 PM
Yup, Shaq, LeBron and the ***** are really going to lead them to the promised land.

Outside of Shaq and Lebron, they aren't ****.

KmB728
08-05-2009, 03:59 PM
Baby isn't signed yet and Scalabrine is so garbage it isn't even funny


Cavs bench

C-Big Z
PF-Smith/Hickson
SF-Moon
SG-West or Parker(whoever is going to stay on the bench)
PG-Gibson

There is also hate possibility of Bowen and Powe.

Orlando bench

C-Bortat
PF-Bass
SF-Barnes
SG-Reddick
PG-Johnson/Watson

Both benches are better than Bostons.

Thats questionable.. no doubt about it each team has a very solid bench

Jahari Kavi
08-05-2009, 04:46 PM
There are no hand down favorites in either conference imo. We have to remember that

A.) We still don't know if the lakers actually got better...and even if they did it isn't like they steamrolled their way to a title
B.) The cavs improved with shaq. We must remember that this cavs team still finished with the best record last year and the orlando series was really close with the magic having the edge in the end. It still remains to be scene if lebron will have enough help from his supporting cast when it really counts though
C.) Boston got better. Surprisingly I think the Daniels signing is more important than the Sheed signing. I think Boston will be very dangerous depending on KG's health and how well Allen performs
D.) I think the Magic got better and it wouldn't surprise me if they came out the east again or even went all the way.
E.) If the Mavs could get a decent big man or two they would be very scary to say the least
F.) Nuggets, Hornets, and Blazers will still be factors.

Raps18-19 Champ
08-05-2009, 04:47 PM
Thats questionable.. no doubt about it each team has a very solid bench

As of talent wise, I think it is but if you say so.

Jahari Kavi
08-05-2009, 04:52 PM
Dang and I forgot about the Spurs....don't know how I did that. They are just as dangerous as anyone out there...........they will be able to score and defend.

JordansBulls
08-05-2009, 06:56 PM
Dang and I forgot about the Spurs....don't know how I did that. They are just as dangerous as anyone out there...........they will be able to score and defend.

Spurs are never out of it.

Bullsfan22
08-05-2009, 07:11 PM
I think the celtics is the best team in the league if healthy, but to say hands down is a stretch. You can be hands donw better than a team that features D12,Vc,shard and lewis or lebron,shaq and mo williams.

Toenail Clipper
08-05-2009, 07:36 PM
If Powe and Big Baby don't come back, then too bad Celtics, and here we go Magic! AGAIN

QUICKTRADE
08-05-2009, 07:48 PM
Who cares if boston or whoever as long as who wins the east and thats what matters most....

Hustla23
08-05-2009, 07:50 PM
Celtics are clearly the favorite.

Healthy KG, added a bunch of role players.

They are going to be great.

JordansBulls
08-05-2009, 09:47 PM
I would like to see the Celtics the #1 seed so that the Bulls can play them in the 2nd round. Also would like to see Cleveland and Orlando go at it in round 2.

ManRam
08-05-2009, 10:12 PM
As a Magic fan...here is why Boston terrifies me.

~Perkins has proven he can contain Howard.
~Lewis' best series was vs. Boston...but with KG back...I don't expect him to have as easy of a time. KG is a top 5 defender in the league. It's gonna be tough to get any production from our PFs.
~Rondo is a premiere defender. He matches up very well vs. Nelson...and I think Rondo is way too quick for Jameer, and is gonna have an easy time pentrating and dishing. Rafer is a slightly better and bigger defender than Jameer. And since Hedo is gone, Jameer is going to handle the ball a ton...and Rondo, again, is a great defender.
~VC vs. Ray will be a very key match up. Can they guard each other??? I don't know. We might have the advantage there.
~Our best defenders (besides Dwight) are our SFs, so I think we can contain him.

An their bench isn't bad. Rasheed obviously provides defense and scoring, and size. House is lightning in a jar. Tony Allen is a great defender. I'm a big fan of Giddens an Bill Walker...we'll see how they pan out. An I guarantee you they bring in at least two real solid veterans to help shore up their bench.

The front court will decide this series...and with KG and Sheed, their front court looks a lot like LA's...and they killed us down low.

JordansBulls
08-06-2009, 08:36 AM
As a Magic fan...here is why Boston terrifies me.

~Perkins has proven he can contain Howard.
~Lewis' best series was vs. Boston...but with KG back...I don't expect him to have as easy of a time. KG is a top 5 defender in the league. It's gonna be tough to get any production from our PFs.
~Rondo is a premiere defender. He matches up very well vs. Nelson...and I think Rondo is way too quick for Jameer, and is gonna have an easy time pentrating and dishing. Rafer is a slightly better and bigger defender than Jameer. And since Hedo is gone, Jameer is going to handle the ball a ton...and Rondo, again, is a great defender.
~VC vs. Ray will be a very key match up. Can they guard each other??? I don't know. We might have the advantage there.
~Our best defenders (besides Dwight) are our SFs, so I think we can contain him.

An their bench isn't bad. Rasheed obviously provides defense and scoring, and size. House is lightning in a jar. Tony Allen is a great defender. I'm a big fan of Giddens an Bill Walker...we'll see how they pan out. An I guarantee you they bring in at least two real solid veterans to help shore up their bench.

The front court will decide this series...and with KG and Sheed, their front court looks a lot like LA's...and they killed us down low.


So you would rather play Cleveland instead?

CELTICS4LYFE
08-06-2009, 09:40 AM
he owns the damn team what else is he goin to say? lol n what other team has 4 hof's??

CraigtheSoxFan
08-06-2009, 10:04 AM
we are the favs to win it any way plus boston wants revenge!!

DCSportsIsPain
08-06-2009, 10:12 AM
What would anyone expect a managing partner of the Celtics to say? That his team isn't as good as it appears? That they acquired Rasheed Wallace for nothing? There isn't really anything of note here. If Grousbeck had named a team other than the one he is a managing partner of as the favorite, that would have been more interesting.

DCSportsIsPain
08-06-2009, 10:13 AM
he owns the damn team what else is he goin to say? lol n what other team has 4 hof's??

:clap: Someone who gets it.

CraigtheSoxFan
08-06-2009, 10:19 AM
Just out of curiosity, if they had like 5 articles saying the Magic are the favourites to win the Finals, would you still call them a hater?


??What 5 articles?


I'm asking a hypothetical question.


Bandwagoners much?? I found the dude's name, Mike Freeman=Magic hater #1.

Maybe i called out all of CBS, but I'm not taking my opinion back about this guy.


Yea I was just wondering if it was all of CBS or just 1 guy.

wow a magic man and a rapters fan fighting over cbs sportsline you guys are jokes :) and ps superman12 its not cbs sportsline who are the haters its you to my friend meaning you hate boston which makes you a boston hater right or am i right:D

CraigtheSoxFan
08-06-2009, 10:24 AM
Actually, Mcdyess has had as good of a season and Wallace the last 3 years. Mcdyss also knows his role unlike Wallace who thinks he is still a star. rasheed is still a star and if your so called rapters signed him then you would worship him
am i right

Corey
08-06-2009, 11:55 AM
Of course the owner will say that, but if I'm being as non-biased as possible...I like the C's first with the Magic close behind.

I think Cleveland will take a step back this year. As good of a player that Shaq is, he's going to slow them down on offense.

ko8e24
08-06-2009, 11:56 AM
Of course the owner will say that, but if I'm being as non-biased as possible...I like the C's first with the Magic close behind.

I think Cleveland will take a step back this year. As good of a player that Shaq is, he's going to slow them down on offense.

ok

CraigtheSoxFan
08-06-2009, 12:48 PM
its going to be another bos vs la finals

JordansBulls
08-06-2009, 01:15 PM
Of course the owner will say that, but if I'm being as non-biased as possible...I like the C's first with the Magic close behind.

I think Cleveland will take a step back this year. As good of a player that Shaq is, he's going to slow them down on offense.

Cleveland ran at a low pace anyway.

JordansBulls
08-06-2009, 07:28 PM
Now with Rashard out 10 games this helps Boston.

ManRam
08-06-2009, 09:31 PM
So you would rather play Cleveland instead?

Yes. Even with Shaq, who I think will do better vs. Dwight than Z did.

kingjames3403
08-06-2009, 09:52 PM
Orlando would rather play Cleveland. Boston would rather play Orlando. and Cleveland would rather play Boston. And from the looks of it Cleveland has the best bench, Boston has the second best and Orlando has the worst of the 3. Boston and Orlando are tied for the best starting 5, maybe slightly the C's, and Cleveland's is the worst starting 5 of those 3. It looks like a toss up to me honestly. But if i had to choose the regular season standings will be Boston, Cleveland, Orlando (because of Rashard missing 10 games) thats big for homecourt

JordansBulls
08-06-2009, 10:44 PM
Orlando would rather play Cleveland. Boston would rather play Orlando. and Cleveland would rather play Boston. And from the looks of it Cleveland has the best bench, Boston has the second best and Orlando has the worst of the 3. Boston and Orlando are tied for the best starting 5, maybe slightly the C's, and Cleveland's is the worst starting 5 of those 3. It looks like a toss up to me honestly. But if i had to choose the regular season standings will be Boston, Cleveland, Orlando (because of Rashard missing 10 games) thats big for homecourt

I don't think Boston cares. They may want Orlando more because Orlando won last year.

kingjames3403
08-06-2009, 11:08 PM
Or its because of the fact that they play better and matchup better with Orlando. They can't beat Cleveland in Cleveland so they need homecourt

JordansBulls
08-07-2009, 11:38 PM
Can the Magic beat the Celtics when both teams have all their stars playing?

Raps18-19 Champ
08-07-2009, 11:42 PM
rasheed is still a star and if your so called rapters signed him then you would worship him
am i right

No. I hate Wallace.

And no chance I think Wallace is a star anywhere.

And why the **** do you get so damn defensive just because someone talks about the Celtics that you don't like?

Raps18-19 Champ
08-07-2009, 11:45 PM
wow a magic man and a rapters fan fighting over cbs sportsline you guys are jokes :) and ps superman12 its not cbs sportsline who are the haters its you to my friend meaning you hate boston which makes you a boston hater right or am i right:D

Your a joke in general.

You call everyone a Boston hater just because they don't think of them as gods.

People say Boston is 2nd or 3rd in the East and all you do is start calling them a hater.

JordansBulls
08-09-2009, 06:38 PM
No. I hate Wallace.

And no chance I think Wallace is a star anywhere.

And why the **** do you get so damn defensive just because someone talks about the Celtics that you don't like?

Rasheed was only a star in the early 2000's.

magichatnumber9
08-09-2009, 07:01 PM
This thread is a survivor.

*Superman*
08-09-2009, 08:02 PM
wow a magic man and a rapters fan fighting over cbs sportsline you guys are jokes :) and ps superman12 its not cbs sportsline who are the haters its you to my friend meaning you hate boston which makes you a boston hater right or am i right:D

No one annoys me more on PSD then you, I'm sorry. I take back my quote about all Celtics fans, its just you. I don't go out throwing the "hater" word everywhere till i actually am certain of one. And Mike Freeman is one, he is that, or a Cavs fan and he's really biased. Like i said i would get articles so here they are.

I even found his Bio on CBS! Here is what it says, no wonder he hates Florida.


Freeman is proud to announce that in his last job as a columnist for the Times-Union in Jacksonville, Fla., he twice angered thousands of Gators fans. OK, maybe it was 10,000. OK, maybe several hundred thousand.

http://www.cbssports.com/columns/writers/freeman/bio

Here are the articles. There are way more than this, i just can't find all his articles.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/11783395
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/11696969

And this is him jumping on the bandwagon

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1814878/orlando_magic_the_2007_new_york_giants.html

And here are other people sharing my opinion.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/messages/chrono/15216222/0/0/15252250
What a joke.

Raps18-19 Champ
08-10-2009, 01:42 AM
Rasheed was only a star in the early 2000's.

I still think someone else was deserving of that spot.

CraigtheSoxFan
08-10-2009, 01:57 AM
I still think someone else was deserving of that spot.

who cares what you think

Raps18-19 Champ
08-10-2009, 02:00 AM
who cares what you think

Alright man. Whatever you say. Keep talking ****.

CraigtheSoxFan
08-10-2009, 02:00 AM
No one annoys me more on PSD then you, I'm sorry. I take back my quote about all Celtics fans, its just you. I don't go out throwing the "hater" word everywhere till i actually am certain of one. And Mike Freeman is one, he is that, or a Cavs fan and he's really biased. Like i said i would get articles so here they are.

I even found his Bio on CBS! Here is what it says, no wonder he hates Florida.



http://www.cbssports.com/columns/writers/freeman/bio

Here are the articles. There are way more than this, i just can't find all his articles.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/11783395
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/11696969

And this is him jumping on the bandwagon

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1814878/orlando_magic_the_2007_new_york_giants.html

And here are other people sharing my opinion.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/messages/chrono/15216222/0/0/15252250
What a joke.

i guess thats a victory for me p.s. i am PSD MOST HATED POSTER ;)

Raps18-19 Champ
08-10-2009, 02:01 AM
i guess thats a victory for me p.s. i am PSD MOST HATED POSTER

Maybe it's because you piss everyone off.

CraigtheSoxFan
08-10-2009, 02:01 AM
Alright man. Whatever you say. Keep talking ****.
why you hate my boy rasheed

CraigtheSoxFan
08-10-2009, 02:02 AM
Maybe it's because you piss everyone off.
yo thats my job :)

Raps18-19 Champ
08-10-2009, 02:03 AM
why you hate my boy rasheed

Cuz he is garbage now. He is a role player at best but his ego would probably get the best of him and he would still try to play like the "star" he once though he was. He also talk bare ****.

Raps18-19 Champ
08-10-2009, 02:04 AM
yo thats my job :)

Maybe you should stop.

CraigtheSoxFan
08-10-2009, 02:06 AM
Cuz he is garbage now. He is a role player at best but his ego would probably get the best of him and he would still try to play like the "star" he once though he was. He also talk bare ****.

I BET if your raptors signed him you be a fan

CraigtheSoxFan
08-10-2009, 02:07 AM
Maybe you should stop. i could but nahhhhhhh

Raps18-19 Champ
08-10-2009, 02:10 AM
I BET if your raptors signed him you be a fan

Like I said, I would hate Wallace anywhere.

My favourite teams are the Raptors, Cavs, and Suns. Even if he were to join any of those teams, I would hate it. I am not a big fan of Rasho but he is on the Raptors. I hate Banks and he is on the Raptors. I don't are whatever team you are on. If I hate a player, I'd hate them on any other team.

CraigtheSoxFan
08-10-2009, 02:11 AM
Like I said, I would hate Wallace anywhere.

My favourite teams are the Raptors, Cavs, and Suns. Even if he were to join any of those teams, I would hate it. I am not a big fan of Rasho but he is on the Raptors. I hate Banks and he is on the Raptors. I don;t are whatever team you are on. If I hate a player, I'd hate them on any other team.

ok i got no prob with that

Raps18-19 Champ
08-10-2009, 02:13 AM
ok i got no prob with that

BTW How you change that writing under your name?

I've been trying to figure that out.

DaaBoTownSox
08-10-2009, 02:54 AM
BTW How you change that writing under your name?

I've been trying to figure that out.

Under "Edit Your Details" in User CP.

JordansBulls
08-10-2009, 08:12 AM
I still think someone else was deserving of that spot.

In the early 2000's?

Raps18-19 Champ
08-10-2009, 06:21 PM
In the early 2000's?

Ya

JordansBulls
08-11-2009, 01:53 PM
According to PSD, the Celtics are the favorites in the east as well.

Lakers4ItAll
08-11-2009, 02:28 PM
Celtics should be favs in East after all there signings.