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JordansBulls
08-03-2009, 08:35 PM
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13494



Either the Boston Celtics or the Cleveland Cavaliers will be sending Bucks General Manager John Hammond a big thank you for gift wrapping Bowen, leaving the best in the East to get even better towards championship aspirations.
The Orlando Magic also had their name mentioned on the shortlist for Bowen's services, but those initial suitors have basically come down to Boston and Cleveland at this point.

According to published reports a return to the Spurs appears "unlikely" while the Celtics are said to be holding off on signing free agent Marquis Daniels of the Indiana Pacers until management can decide if adding Bowen to their roster is more feasible.

Raps18-19 Champ
08-03-2009, 08:37 PM
I think he goes to the Cavs.

Suns113
08-03-2009, 08:39 PM
I think hell sign with celts

EastCoastBaller
08-03-2009, 08:52 PM
Where does Bowen fit with the Cavs? They already signed Moon.

what54!?
08-03-2009, 08:55 PM
he'll go to the celtics. He should get PT time there

B.JenningsMVP
08-03-2009, 08:59 PM
I knew he'd end up in Boston.

Burkey3472
08-03-2009, 09:05 PM
Boston would be a good spot for him.

GodsSon
08-03-2009, 09:05 PM
this is one of the few reasons why i cant stand the NBA...championship contending teams are ALWAYS able to stockpile usable assets for dirt cheap...the other major leagues dont deal with this problem nearly as much, if ever

JabberJaw
08-03-2009, 09:06 PM
He'll go to the Celtics. No room for him on the Cavs and Celtics are a team of "well seasoned veterans". Celtics is definitely the better team for him.

Raps18-19 Champ
08-03-2009, 09:07 PM
Imagine Bowen teaching Lebron is defense.

:drool:

He would be the most complete player ever.

goku
08-03-2009, 09:11 PM
hope he go to the celtics

Grim Reaper
08-03-2009, 09:12 PM
this is one of the few reasons why i cant stand the NBA...championship contending teams are ALWAYS able to stockpile usable assets for dirt cheap...the other major leagues dont deal with this problem nearly as much, if ever

WTF are u talking about. NBA has a salary cap. It's MLB that's the unfair sport.

JabberJaw
08-03-2009, 09:14 PM
this is one of the few reasons why i cant stand the NBA...championship contending teams are ALWAYS able to stockpile usable assets for dirt cheap...the other major leagues dont deal with this problem nearly as much, if ever

The NBA is one of the few leagues that actually have it right, when it comes to players. The salary cap actually keeps teams on an even playing field, unlike baseball. Guys actually have contracts that are good for them, and they must stick to them, unlike football. So, I don't get the argument. Who doesn't want to play for a contender in any sport. Football may be the only sport where the player has to be somewhat greedy when it comes to contracts because there isn't as much guaranteed money. Baseball is a joke when it comes to "stockpiling".

Besides, since when is Bruce Bowen considered a usable asset? The guy got traded as a "throw away player", then got dumped. There aren't too many contenders that would even have a place for him their rotation. The guy WAS a defensive specialist. He isn't much of that anymore either. The only shot he can hit on the floor is the corner 3. He used to be a handful, but now he is merely a shell of his former self. He got too old for the Spurs. That alone should tell you he's done.

dre1990
08-03-2009, 09:36 PM
celtics. this guy can still play D

heyman321
08-03-2009, 09:38 PM
Imagine Bowen teaching Lebron is defense.

:drool:

He would be the most complete player ever.

You mean kicking people in the shins, tripping them intentionally, kicking the iin the balls, kneeing them in the balls, intentionally stepping under people's feet to turn their ankle, karate kicking people, etc?

Yeah, then Lebron will be complete.

zambo4president
08-03-2009, 09:39 PM
Your a *** for going to the Celtics and your even more of a *** for going to Cleveland. Might as well go big or go home.

Teeboy1487
08-03-2009, 09:40 PM
How can the Celtics get Bowen when they just signed Shelden Williams?

zambo4president
08-03-2009, 09:40 PM
Imagine Bowen teaching Lebron is defense.

:drool:

He would be the most complete player ever.

You make it sound like LeBron`s a ****ing robot.

zambo4president
08-03-2009, 09:40 PM
How can the Celtics get Bowen when they just signed Shelden Williams?

They did? I missed that one, not a bad pick up.

Teeboy1487
08-03-2009, 09:44 PM
They did? I missed that one, not a bad pick up.

See. http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2009/08/celtics_sign_sh.html

Sports Illustrator
08-03-2009, 09:47 PM
He would fit much better with the Boston Celtics. He played best with the Spurs in a team full of experienced players. The Boston Celtics would be the same way, as far as experienced players. He would also get a lot more minutes in Boston.

daleja424
08-03-2009, 09:51 PM
dude is old as dirt...dont know how much he has left

Raps18-19 Champ
08-03-2009, 10:46 PM
You make it sound like LeBron`s a ****ing robot.

I wouldn't be suprised if he is a robot.

He already is at the top when it comes to scoring and his ability to fill up the rest of the stat sheet is amazing. All he really needs to work on is his man to man defense. He can improve on his shooting but his other offensive skills might cover it up.

GodsSon
08-03-2009, 11:00 PM
WTF are u talking about. NBA has a salary cap. It's MLB that's the unfair sport.

you dont understand what im getting at...in 2004, when the Lakers still have Shaq and Kobe, Payton and Malone both signed with the Lakers in an attempt to get the championship for WAY less then they could have made elsewhere...my point is, and was, i find that in the NBA, players latch onto contending teams for a cheap amount of money ALL THE TIME; from the players standpoint it makes sense, but in terms of a more level playing field, only a handful really benefit

GoatMilk
08-03-2009, 11:01 PM
Imagine Bowen teaching Lebron is defense.

:drool:

He would be the most complete player ever.

D isnt his problem
he was all defensive first team last year

bron still cant shoot

Hellcrooner
08-03-2009, 11:06 PM
uh shocking a bstard ta wants to ride the cavs or celts or magic.
wonder why no one wants to ride the lakers like richmond payton or malone wanted...

chicago lulz
08-03-2009, 11:14 PM
uh shocking a bstard ta wants to ride the cavs or celts or magic.
wonder why no one wants to ride the lakers like richmond payton or malone wanted...

I would imagine it's because we all know how that ended. With none of them getting rings.

Hellcrooner
08-03-2009, 11:26 PM
richmond got his

dodgers310
08-03-2009, 11:38 PM
Im pretty sure he'll go to the celtics

JordansBulls
08-03-2009, 11:54 PM
Bowen fits more on the Celtics now.

theuuord
08-03-2009, 11:55 PM
You mean kicking people in the shins, tripping them intentionally, kicking the iin the balls, kneeing them in the balls, intentionally stepping under people's feet to turn their ankle, karate kicking people, etc?

Yeah, then Lebron will be complete.

to be fair, imagining lebron performing a flying kick in the face to wally szczerbiak is one of the funnier things i can think of right now.

Raps18-19 Champ
08-03-2009, 11:56 PM
D isnt his problem
he was all defensive first team last year

bron still cant shoot

Lebron's defense that got him to the all first team is help defense.

He needs a lot of work on his man to man defense. Bwen can teach him that.

Lebron is already improving his shot so it will solve itself. Only reason he doesn't have a good jumper because he has the strenght of a C in a wing body so he will more than likely shoot and miss a lot because he is too strong.

Joshtd1
08-04-2009, 12:00 AM
He was on a talk show here in SA as a guest the other week...and judging from his comments, it sounded as if he might just retire.

Who knows though...if I had to guess, I would say he would go to the Celts.

Raps18-19 Champ
08-04-2009, 12:05 AM
You mean kicking people in the shins, tripping them intentionally, kicking the iin the balls, kneeing them in the balls, intentionally stepping under people's feet to turn their ankle, karate kicking people, etc?

Yeah, then Lebron will be complete.

Hell that is even better than the defense I was talking about.

Kakaroach
08-04-2009, 12:05 AM
He'll end up in Boston. Danny Ainge is bringing in the vets. Its how they won their title last year (Sam Cassell, P.J. Brown)

Raps18-19 Champ
08-04-2009, 12:05 AM
to be fair, imagining lebron performing a flying kick in the face to wally szczerbiak is one of the funnier things i can think of right now.

Haha I can imagine it now.

That is pretty funny.

cowboyz180
08-04-2009, 12:10 AM
celtics

Hawkize31
08-04-2009, 12:19 AM
Imagine Bowen teaching Lebron is defense.

:drool:

He would be the most complete player ever even moreso than he already is.

Fixed.

Boston Faithful
08-04-2009, 12:30 AM
this is one of the few reasons why i cant stand the NBA...championship contending teams are ALWAYS able to stockpile usable assets for dirt cheap...the other major leagues dont deal with this problem nearly as much, if ever

Oh please, like the Yankees don't do this.

DCB/LAL
08-04-2009, 05:45 AM
Hmm.......Celtics Sign Williams and Cavs getting Powe. Now where does he go??

S-Dot
08-04-2009, 07:23 AM
Celts is a better fit for him IMO

CraigtheSoxFan
08-04-2009, 07:42 AM
Imagine Bowen teaching Lebron is defense.

:drool:

He would be the most complete player ever.

dude you are so boston bias

ko8e24
08-04-2009, 07:57 AM
surprise surprise, another old washed up has-been playing the role of the ring chaser, and deciding to go to the east to finally get their arse eventually handed to them by the defending champs!

this is truly gettin ridiculous

stawka
08-04-2009, 08:37 AM
Anyone that wants a ring will go to a contender? What's the big deal?

S-Dot
08-04-2009, 08:42 AM
surprise surprise, another old washed up has-been playing the role of the ring chaser, and deciding to go to the east to finally get their arse eventually handed to them by the defending champs!

this is truly gettin ridiculous

he has his rings with San Antonio; what other team could he go to? Why would Bruce Bowen sign with a team not contending?

CELTICS4LYFE
08-04-2009, 09:34 AM
this is one of the few reasons why i cant stand the NBA...championship contending teams are ALWAYS able to stockpile usable assets for dirt cheap...the other major leagues dont deal with this problem nearly as much, if ever

becuz teams dont unload all their best players when they r gunne miss the playoffs in the mlb right? :rolleyes:

MajorFloridaFan
08-04-2009, 11:36 AM
Man another stockpile addition to 1 of our rivals...just makes things tougher

IBleedPurple
08-04-2009, 11:53 AM
this is one of the few reasons why i cant stand the NBA...championship contending teams are ALWAYS able to stockpile usable assets for dirt cheap...the other major leagues dont deal with this problem nearly as much, if ever

^this

Besides the Patriots in the NFL, and the Red Wings in the NHL, I have a hard time thinking of any other franchises that this happens with in other leagues.....And then there is the NBA where you have an epidemic


becuz teams dont unload all their best players when they r gunne miss the playoffs in the mlb right? :rolleyes:

It is completely different. This happens in the NBA also, but is more of a "rental player" situation. Teams signing vets for insanely low contracts, and having a bench that is more talented than the starters of other teams really doesn't happen in other sports. Baseball has talent stockpiling, but that is because it is uncapped.

CELTICS4LYFE
08-04-2009, 12:39 PM
It is completely different. This happens in the NBA also, but is more of a "rental player" situation. Teams signing vets for insanely low contracts, and having a bench that is more talented than the starters of other teams really doesn't happen in other sports. Baseball has talent stockpiling, but that is because it is uncapped.

maybe because the nba starts only 5 guys?? lol n i think signing a vet for a low contract is about the same as trading some prospects for a 20 game winner or a 40 hr hitter at the deadline

lakers4sho
08-04-2009, 12:44 PM
LOL I wouldn't take Bowen even if he agrees to play for us for free.

That guy is just a dirt bag. But I wouldn't be surprised if Thibodeau teaches him some few more tricks.

Jays Claw
08-04-2009, 01:07 PM
Bruce Bowen would fit in well with either team.

JordansBulls
08-04-2009, 01:14 PM
You pretty much play him when you have your other top 4 scorers on the floor.

Swagger11
08-04-2009, 01:23 PM
Say it ain't so Bruce! I hate both those teams!

Hustla23
08-04-2009, 01:31 PM
The only reason any team would want to sign Bowen at this point is so he doesn't try to break the ankles of their own players when he's playing defense on other team's players.

dtmagnet
08-04-2009, 01:42 PM
Sign with the Raptors, we could use a guy to teach us to get a little dirty on the court.

JayW_1023
08-04-2009, 02:05 PM
People always hate Bowen for his aggressive defense until he plays for their team. Typical.

Hustla23
08-04-2009, 02:10 PM
People always hate Bowen for his aggressive defense until he plays for their team. Typical.
If by "aggressive defense" you mean sneaking his foot under players ankles when they shoot so they can fall on it and break their ankles, then yeah most people hate that.

And no I wouldn't enjoy it if one of my players did some dirty ***** **** like that to some other player.

Raps18-19 Champ
08-04-2009, 02:30 PM
dude you are so boston bias

I didn't say anything about Boston or Cavs.

Raps18-19 Champ
08-04-2009, 02:31 PM
Sign with the Raptors, we could use a guy to teach us to get a little dirty on the court.

We have Reggie Evans for that.

Sly Guy
08-04-2009, 02:32 PM
Where does Bowen fit with the Cavs? They already signed Moon.

hahahahaha!

Trouble87
08-04-2009, 02:54 PM
I'm with most people here... he should go to the Celtics

IversonIsKrazy
08-04-2009, 03:23 PM
i think Celtics would be better for him. Cavs have LeBron, Moon, Parker, and West in the SG/SF spot. Imagine if Spurs and Celtics made the finals, Celtics needed sum1 to stop Ginobili's amazing performance, they put in Bowen and Manu goes ice, man would that be a spurs nightmare.

JayW_1023
08-05-2009, 10:38 AM
If by "aggressive defense" you mean sneaking his foot under players ankles when they shoot so they can fall on it and break their ankles, then yeah most people hate that.

And no I wouldn't enjoy it if one of my players did some dirty ***** **** like that to some other player.

That "aggressive defense" was generally accepted in the 90's, where there weren't prima donna NBA stars crying to the refs with every little catscratch they get.

The only reason Bowen gets scrutinized is because his aggressive defense stands out in a league where physical defense basically is a foul these days. In the 90's no one would call Bowen dirty.

JordansBulls
08-05-2009, 10:46 AM
With the emergence of Rondo, I would start Bowen on the Celtics actually.

PG Rondo
SG Bowen
SF Pierce
PF Garnett
C Perkins

KnicksR4Real
08-05-2009, 10:47 AM
go to the celtics, its a better fit

KmB728
08-05-2009, 10:59 AM
With the emergence of Rondo, I would start Bowen on the Celtics actually.

PG Rondo
SG Bowen
SF Pierce
PF Garnett
C Perkins

You would keep Ray Allen on the bench???

Hustla23
08-05-2009, 11:32 AM
That "aggressive defense" was generally accepted in the 90's, where there weren't prima donna NBA stars crying to the refs with every little catscratch they get.

The only reason Bowen gets scrutinized is because his aggressive defense stands out in a league where physical defense basically is a foul these days. In the 90's no one would call Bowen dirty.
No, not at all. You are horribly wrong.

"Aggressive defense" back in the 90's was bodying up on your man and keeping him in front of you as well boxing out and busting people up when they tried to run through screens. It also included giving someone a hard foul anytime they came near the hoop.

That's considered good hard basketball. Nothing dirty or cheap about that. If guys took issue to a particular play or foul they manned up and got in the player's face.

What cheapshot master ***** ***** Bowen tries to do is take cheap shots at players when they least expect it and try to end their careers.

ex : See Bowen purposely sneaking his foot underneath many players' feet after they elevate for a jumpshot or layup so they can fall on it and injure it. This is completely douchey, unnecessary, and just involves pussiness to the max.

If he did that back in the early 90's , late 80's he'd have his face busted up because players wouldn't be worried about having to face excessive suspensions or fines.

#1Mavericksfan
08-05-2009, 11:37 AM
Bowen's done man....if he was still any good I sure the Spurs would have kept him but they dropped him like a bad habit.

lakers4sho
08-05-2009, 11:39 AM
Plus, I don't think players deliberately screwed around with busted pinkies of opposing players during the 90s.

JayW_1023
08-05-2009, 11:41 AM
No, not at all. You are horribly wrong.

"Aggressive defense" back in the 90's was bodying up on your man and keeping him in front of you as well boxing out and busting people up when they tried to run through screens. It also included giving someone a hard foul anytime they came near the hoop.

That's considered good hard basketball. Nothing dirty or cheap about that. If guys took issue to a particular play or foul they manned up and got in the player's face.

What cheapshot master ***** ***** Bowen tries to do is take cheap shots at players when they least expect it and try to end their careers.

ex : See Bowen purposely sneaking his foot underneath many players' feet after they elevate for a jumpshot or layup so they can fall on it and injure it. This is completely douchey, unnecessary, and just involves pussiness to the max.

If he did that back in the early 90's , late 80's he'd have his face busted up because players wouldn't be worried about having to face excessive suspensions or fines.

Good hard fouls...like the ones Bill Laimbeer liked to do...? Sorry if you compare some of Bowens antics with some of the fouls Laimbeer has dished out...breaking and ankle versus breaking someones neck...I'd say Laimbeers antics overall were far more severe. Isiah was also notorious for undercutting...it's nothing new.

Bowen just gets into peoples heads like any great defender can do. The Rodmans, Laimbeers, Coopers and Dumars have gained a reputation that allowed them to get away with more than most defenders. Bowen is no different.

The best wing player of this era, Kobe Bryant has stated he loves the challenge of being guarded by Bowen in his prime...because it's just about the closest defense to what Jordan used to face in his day.

Hustla23
08-05-2009, 11:48 AM
Good hard fouls...like the ones Bill Laimbeer liked to do...? Sorry if you compare some of Bowens antics with some of the fouls Laimbeer has dished out...breaking and ankle versus breaking someones neck...I'd say Laimbeers antics overall were far more severe. Isiah was also notorious for undercutting...it's nothing new.

Bowen just gets into peoples heads like any great defender can do. The Rodmans, Laimbeers, Coopers and Dumars have gained a reputation that allowed them to get away with more than most defenders. Bowen is no different.

The best wing player of this era, Kobe Bryant has stated he loves the challenge of being guarded by Bowen in his prime...because it's just about the closest defense to what Jordan used to face in his day.
Sure, Isiah elbowed and ribbed people when noone was looking but it wasn't anything career threatening.

As for Laimbeer, if he took a cheapshot at someone, it was pretty blatant, and more often than not , the player would respond.

And Laimbeer has gotten his *** kicked plenty of times for his antics.

What Bowen tries to do is be all sneaky about the crap he does like a little *****. He knows players will not react in a way that endangers him because of the rules that have players suspended for 10 seasons if they touch someone. Laimbeer and the players back then knew what they were getting themselves into. So they can't be called *****es.

And you possibly CANNOT tell me that purposely sticking your foot under a player's feet so they can break their feet is "aggressive defense" or "hard defense" or something like that. How you support the claim that Bowen is doing anything good by this is beyond comprehension. He is being a ***** and a sissy.

Hence why everyone not a Spurs fan like me hates him.

JayW_1023
08-05-2009, 11:59 AM
Sure, Isiah elbowed and ribbed people when noone was looking but it wasn't anything career threatening.

As for Laimbeer, if he took a cheapshot at someone, it was pretty blatant, and more often than not , the player would respond.

And Laimbeer has gotten his *** kicked plenty of times for his antics.

What Bowen tries to do is be all sneaky about the crap he does like a little *****. He knows players will not react in a way that endangers him because of the rules that have players suspended for 10 seasons if they touch someone. Laimbeer and the players back then knew what they were getting themselves into. So they can't be called *****es.

And you possibly CANNOT tell me that purposely sticking your foot under a player's feet so they can break their feet is "aggressive defense" or "hard defense" or something like that. How you support the claim that Bowen is doing anything good by this is beyond comprehension. He is being a ***** and a sissy.

Hence why everyone not a Spurs fan like me hates him.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then. Thing is all great defender have sneaky tricks up their sleeve. You can't single out Bowen for doing something that other players have done before.

Hustla23
08-05-2009, 12:02 PM
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then. Thing is all great defender have sneaky tricks up their sleeve. You can't single out Bowen for doing something that other players have done before.
I have never seen a player that that purposely tries to injure players by sticking their feet underneath other players' feet.

And you can't admit you've seen any player do that either.

I've seen players do things that are dirty and dangerous, but nothing potentially career threatening like that.

And the fact that it is so low key and sissy like just pisses off people even more.

skinsfan4life80
08-05-2009, 12:02 PM
Who cares..and no he can not still play d.

JayW_1023
08-05-2009, 12:05 PM
I have never seen a player that that purposely tries to injure players by sticking their feet underneath other players' feet.

And you can't admit you've seen any player do that either.

I've seen players do things that are dirty and dangerous, but nothing potentially career threatening like that.

And the fact that it is so low key and sissy like just pisses off people even more.

Like I said before, I condemn undercutting and hard fouling ingeneral...but Bowen isn't the only one...you can't single him out.

blastmasta26
08-05-2009, 12:06 PM
With the emergence of Rondo, I would start Bowen on the Celtics actually.

PG Rondo
SG Bowen
SF Pierce
PF Garnett
C Perkins
Would be interesting to have Allen and Wallace off the bench to provide a lot of scoring, but Bowen is not nearly good enough to start over Ray.

lakersrock
08-05-2009, 12:08 PM
Bowen is pretty terrible now. If I was him, I'd beg the Lakers to sign me just so I could get a ring with the team Pop hates.

skinsfan4life80
08-05-2009, 12:12 PM
Does no one remember that Ray Allen hates Bowen and has for years

JordansBulls
08-07-2009, 11:33 PM
Would be interesting to have Allen and Wallace off the bench to provide a lot of scoring, but Bowen is not nearly good enough to start over Ray.

With that lineup the Celtics already have enough offense in the starting lineup.

Lakers4ItAll
08-07-2009, 11:35 PM
Not a chance that Allen comes off the bench so Bowen can start

Raps18-19 Champ
08-07-2009, 11:39 PM
Cavs said they don't want Bowen anymore.

JordansBulls
08-09-2009, 06:41 PM
Cavs said they don't want Bowen anymore.

So it is up to Boston now.

DetroitRipCity
08-09-2009, 07:51 PM
You mean kicking people in the shins, tripping them intentionally, kicking the iin the balls, kneeing them in the balls, intentionally stepping under people's feet to turn their ankle, karate kicking people, etc?

Yeah, then Lebron will be complete.

QFT best post on bowen ever!!

and it just goes to show you Bowen's Loyalty I mean the spurs are contenders this year why doesnt he go back?? (unless they cant pay i dunno their cap situation) but i dont think players have that loyalty ne more. EX Mcdyess last year came back to us after Denver waived him he coulda went anywhere and won a chip but he came back for one last shot with us (im gonna miss Dyess :()

MTar786
08-09-2009, 09:24 PM
Like I said before, I condemn undercutting and hard fouling ingeneral...but Bowen isn't the only one...you can't single him out.

im not here trying to single bowen out.. i can happily tell u that him and whoever else may be that type of player is a piece of crap in my eyes.. who ever plays dirty like bowen doesnt deserve the talent to play ball that god gave them. so basically i agree with the guy uve been arguing or debating with

Toenail Clipper
08-09-2009, 09:33 PM
Bruce Bowen should return to Spurs.
He will be a bandwagon if he joins either Celtics or Cavs

Corey
08-10-2009, 12:22 AM
Bruce Bowen should return to Spurs.
He will be a bandwagon if he joins either Celtics or Cavs

Because I'm sure NBA players care if someone thinks they happen to be a bandwagoner.

Isn't their main goal to win? Who cares if he hops on a good team.

Raph12
08-10-2009, 12:29 AM
Cavs are stacking guys at the 3; Lebron, Parker, Moon, Jawad Williams and now Bruce Bowen? lol looks like the preparations of losing LBJ has begun

MPScribbles
08-10-2009, 12:37 AM
uh shocking a bstard ta wants to ride the cavs or celts or magic.
wonder why no one wants to ride the lakers like richmond payton or malone wanted...

That already happened this year. Don't you know who you got? He's Ron Artest! He's Ron Artest!

IndiansFan337
08-10-2009, 12:40 AM
I hope that the Cavs can land him. I think he can help LeBron continue to improve his D. And then we wouldn't have to worry about him matching up with LeBron during a potential Boston playoff series.

stockchampion25
08-10-2009, 01:01 AM
The only reason anyone should want him on their team is so that when you play against him he doesnt hurt one of your key players. Secretly Kobe is praying that no team picks him up and he retires...lol

Raps18-19 Champ
08-10-2009, 02:07 AM
So it is up to Boston now.

I also saw 2 other articles saying that the Spurs want to look at him to help with their wings' defense or he might retire.