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JordansBulls
07-21-2009, 02:53 PM
Rank the teams on who will end up with the best records in order?


Cleveland
PG: Mo Williams/Daniel Gibson
SG: Delonte West/Anthony Parker
SF: LeBron James/Jamario Moon
PF: Anderson Varejao/J.J Hickson/Joe Smith (if re-signs)
C: Shaquille O'Neal/Zydrunas Ilgauskas



Boston
PG Rondo/Pruitt
SG Allen/House/Tony Allen/Giddens)
SF Pierce/Daniels (Walker)
PF Garnett/Big Baby/Powe
C Perkins/Sheed (Swift)


Orlando
PG - Jameer Nelson, Anthony Johnson
SG - Vince Carter, Michael Pietrus, JJ Redick
SF - Rashard Lewis, Matt Barnes
PF - Brandon Bass, Ryan Anderson
C - Dwight Howard, Marcin Gortat



LA Lakers
PG Fisher/S. Brown/Farmar
SG Kobe/Sasha
SF Artest/Walton/Morrison
PF Gasol/Odom/Powell
C Bynum/DJ Mbenga



San Antonio
PG Parker/George Hill
SG Finley/Manu/Roger Mason
SF Jefferson/DeJuan Blair/Ime Udoka
PF Duncan/Ratliff
C Mcdyess/Bonner


Dallas Mavericks

PG Jason Kidd / J.J. Barea / Rodrigue Beaubois
SG Josh Howard / Jason Terry / Matt Carroll
SF Shawn Marion / Quinton Ross / Shawne Williams
PF Dirk Nowitzki / Kris Humphries
C Erick Dampier / Drew Gooden / Nathan Jawai

Living Legend
07-21-2009, 02:58 PM
Lakers
Magic
Cleveland
San Antonio

J_M_B
07-21-2009, 03:00 PM
1.Lakers
2.Magic
3.Boston
4.Spurs
5.Cavaliers

carter15
07-21-2009, 03:01 PM
odom didnt sign with LA yet did he?

Jonathan2323
07-21-2009, 03:01 PM
Odom is not a Laker yet.

Jay22Redd
07-21-2009, 03:01 PM
Cavs
Lakers
Orlando
Boston
Spurs

what54!?
07-21-2009, 03:02 PM
if odom signs with L.A. I'll post then

Jay22Redd
07-21-2009, 03:02 PM
Cavs
Lakers
Orlando
Boston
Spurs

THE MTL
07-21-2009, 03:02 PM
The rich only get richer in the NBA! Teams are getting stacked and its ridiculous lol.

I still have Celtics as my top pick though. I honestly believe they would have ran it back.

Raph12
07-21-2009, 03:09 PM
Lakers (The way you have it with Odom in the lineup)
Magic
Spurs
Cavaliers
Celtics

B.JenningsMVP
07-21-2009, 03:15 PM
Lakers
Magic
Celtics
Cavs
Spurs

tsb77
07-21-2009, 03:21 PM
Lakers
Celtics
Magic
Cavs
Spurs

st3voness
07-21-2009, 03:30 PM
Dallas is in the list if you guys did not notice.

Zefflin
07-21-2009, 03:31 PM
LA, Boston, Orlando, Cleveland, San Antonio, Dallas...too close to call...not really sure.

thedfactor
07-21-2009, 03:35 PM
Orlando
Boston
Spurs
Lakers (w/out Odom)
Mavs
Cavs

macc
07-21-2009, 03:35 PM
Lakers (Not as many elite teams in the west, Lakers have basically the same team so chemistry should be there)
Magic (I'm a Magic fan but I think they'll do better in the playoffs then the regular season, I think they'll start slow but end strong)
Cavs (Lebron James)
Boston (I would have them higher but I think at some point during the year they will have an injury to one of their big 3 which will slow them down just like last year)
Spurs (great team but just can't think of a reason why they'll have a better record then the above teams)
Dallas (Could have the best record in the league, could be the 7th seed, just don't know what you're getting with Dallas and an aging Kidd)

Dirty30
07-21-2009, 03:35 PM
LA
Spurs
Boston
Magic
Cavs

RaiderLakersA's
07-21-2009, 03:40 PM
1. Spurs
2. Orlando
3. Boston
4. Lakers
5. Cleveland
6. Dallas

Lakers lose Odom, but before the trade deadline wind up getting Chris Bosch, after the Raptors start off slow and don't recover. Lakers defeat the Spurs in 7 and repeat as NBA champs after another 7 game series against whichever team comes out of the East. Phil Jackson retires after getting a ring for the big toe. The end.

UofA
07-21-2009, 03:41 PM
Boston
SA
LA
ORL
Cavs
Dallas

DAL*CWB
07-21-2009, 03:41 PM
why is dallas on this list, they are no where close to being put in the same list as the other team...and i'm a die hard mavs fan!!!

tbomlad
07-21-2009, 03:42 PM
This is easy:
1. Clearly the Magic- best starters and bench in the NBA
2. Spurs- new acquisitions and the potential loss of Odom plus Ariza from LA helps
3. Celtics- If they can stay healthy and fresh, signing Wallace good move
4. Lakers- too many already great teams got better
5. Cavs- Shaq and Parker signings are insignificant

Anythinzposible
07-21-2009, 03:43 PM
Lakers
Magic
Cavs
Toronto
Boston
Spurs
Mavs

tbomlad
07-21-2009, 03:43 PM
1. Spurs
2. Orlando
3. Boston
4. Lakers
5. Cleveland
6. Dallas

Lakers lose Odom, but before the trade deadline wind up getting Chris Bosch, after the Raptors start off slow and don't recover. Lakers defeat the Spurs in 7 and repeat as NBA champs after another 7 game series against whichever team comes out of the East. Phil Jackson retires after getting a ring for the big toe. The end.

Almost right on! Swap Orlando & Spurs and you nailed it.

shas
07-21-2009, 03:45 PM
i know that this is only based on the players but for a sec just keep in mind that phil jackson is the coach of the lakers.

tbomlad
07-21-2009, 03:46 PM
LA
Spurs
Boston
Magic
Cavs

Way off, worst prediction yet.

tbomlad
07-21-2009, 03:47 PM
Boston
SA
LA
ORL
Cavs
Dallas

I stand corrected. I found one worse.

PapelbonLester
07-21-2009, 03:48 PM
1. LA(with odom) (without they fall to 3 behind orlando)
2. Boston(heathy KG)
3. Orlando (if they gell together and play as good as their roster looks) deepest team in nba...serious contenders
4. Cleveland (somewhat high productive shaq) i wanna say they can win it but with Andy starting pf idk)
5. Spurs(healthy Ginoboli/Duncan)
7. Dallas......(are 7 they aint better than Denver with Marion)
6. Denver (better than dallas with or without kleiza)
8....Miami (w/odom) give them a scoring threat off the bench with Chalmers, Dwade, Beasly, Odom, J. Oneal and they could contend.......... if they could get a bench look out.

JIDsanity
07-21-2009, 03:53 PM
Dallas is in the list if you guys did not notice.

Not with Erica in your starting line-up

Raph12
07-21-2009, 03:55 PM
1. Spurs
2. Orlando
3. Boston
4. Lakers
5. Cleveland
6. Dallas

Lakers lose Odom, but before the trade deadline wind up getting Chris Bosch, after the Raptors start off slow and don't recover. Lakers defeat the Spurs in 7 and repeat as NBA champs after another 7 game series against whichever team comes out of the East. Phil Jackson retires after getting a ring for the big toe. The end.

Damn we got a fortune teller here,
O great RaiderLakersA's, what should I put my life savings on in the stock market? Lakers would never get Bosh unless they give away Gasol, beating San Antonio in 7 (likely) and repeating is a bit more possible (idk I think depends on who comes out of the East)

JIDsanity
07-21-2009, 03:56 PM
1. Spurs
2. Orlando
3. Boston
4. Lakers
5. Cleveland
6. Dallas

Lakers lose Odom, but before the trade deadline wind up getting Chris Bosch, after the Raptors start off slow and don't recover. Lakers defeat the Spurs in 7 and repeat as NBA champs after another 7 game series against whichever team comes out of the East. Phil Jackson retires after getting a ring for the big toe. The end.
Chris Bosh and Pau Gasol on the same team? Just Stop

GrkGawdofWalkz
07-21-2009, 03:57 PM
Rank the teams on who will end up with the best records in order?


Cleveland
PG: Mo Williams/Daniel Gibson
SG: Delonte West/Anthony Parker
SF: LeBron James/Jamario Moon
PF: Anderson Varejao/J.J Hickson/Joe Smith (if re-signs)
C: Shaquille O'Neal/Zydrunas Ilgauskas



Boston
PG Rondo/Pruitt
SG Allen/House/Tony Allen/Giddens)
SF Pierce/Daniels (Walker)
PF Garnett/Big Baby/Powe
C Perkins/Sheed (Swift)


Orlando
PG - Jameer Nelson, Anthony Johnson
SG - Vince Carter, Michael Pietrus, JJ Redick
SF - Rashard Lewis, Matt Barnes
PF - Brandon Bass, Ryan Anderson
C - Dwight Howard, Marcin Gortat



LA Lakers
PG Fisher/S. Brown/Farmar
SG Kobe/Sasha
SF Artest/Walton/Morrison
PF Gasol/Odom/Powell
C Bynum/DJ Mbenga



San Antonio
PG Parker/George Hill
SG Finley/Manu/Roger Mason
SF Jefferson/DeJuan Blair/Ime Udoka
PF Duncan/Gooden (FA)
C Mcdyess/Bonner


Dallas Mavericks

PG Jason Kidd / J.J. Barea / Rodrigue Beaubois
SG Josh Howard / Jason Terry / Matt Carroll
SF Shawn Marion / Quinton Ross / Shawne Williams
PF Dirk Nowitzki / Kris Humphries
C Erick Dampier / Nathan Jawai


Should be:

Parker/Hill
Mason/Manu
Jefferson/Finley/Hairston
McDyess/Blair/Mahinmi (gag)
Duncan/Bonner/Haislip/Mahinmi

Fmartinez86
07-21-2009, 04:00 PM
Boston
San Antonio
Lakers(Lower id they lose L.O.)
Magic
mavs
cavs

NYMetros
07-21-2009, 04:01 PM
I'll give my opinion once the Odom thing gets resolved.

Raps18-19 Champ
07-21-2009, 04:07 PM
Rank the teams on who will end up with the best records in order?


Cleveland
PG: Mo Williams/Daniel Gibson
SG: Delonte West/Anthony Parker
SF: LeBron James/Jamario Moon
PF: Anderson Varejao/J.J Hickson/Joe Smith (if re-signs)
C: Shaquille O'Neal/Zydrunas Ilgauskas



Boston
PG Rondo/Pruitt
SG Allen/House/Tony Allen/Giddens)
SF Pierce/Daniels (Walker)
PF Garnett/Big Baby/Powe
C Perkins/Sheed (Swift)


Orlando
PG - Jameer Nelson, Anthony Johnson
SG - Vince Carter, Michael Pietrus, JJ Redick
SF - Rashard Lewis, Matt Barnes
PF - Brandon Bass, Ryan Anderson
C - Dwight Howard, Marcin Gortat



LA Lakers
PG Fisher/S. Brown/Farmar
SG Kobe/Sasha
SF Artest/Walton/Morrison
PF Gasol/Odom/Powell
C Bynum/DJ Mbenga



San Antonio
PG Parker/George Hill
SG Finley/Manu/Roger Mason
SF Jefferson/DeJuan Blair/Ime Udoka
PF Duncan/Gooden (FA)
C Mcdyess/Bonner


Dallas Mavericks

PG Jason Kidd / J.J. Barea / Rodrigue Beaubois
SG Josh Howard / Jason Terry / Matt Carroll
SF Shawn Marion / Quinton Ross / Shawne Williams
PF Dirk Nowitzki / Kris Humphries
C Erick Dampier / Nathan Jawai

1.Cleveland Cavaliers-67 wins
2.Los Angelos Lakers-67 wins
3.Orlando Magic-64 wins
4.Boston Celtics-60 wins
5.San Antonio Spurs-56 wins
6.Dallas Mavericks-56

slaker619
07-21-2009, 04:07 PM
1. Orlando( JJ Traded )
2. Boston( With Daniles )
3. Lakers( With Odom )
4. SA
5. Cavs( With Moon Ahead Of SA Without Moon And Add Betta Player )
6. Mavs( Without A Ture C )

RaiderLakersA's
07-21-2009, 04:13 PM
Chris Bosh and Pau Gasol on the same team? Just Stop

It's my fairytale ending for PJ, and I'm sticking to it. :p:p:p

Seriously, let's not take any of these posts too seriously. No Nostradumuses (Nostradami?) any where to be found on this or any other board.

1WorthyLakerFan
07-21-2009, 04:34 PM
Celtics
Lakers
Maginc
Spurs (usually a better post season team than regular season)
Cavs (Shaq usually doesn't really show up until the post season)

Finals
Celtics Vs Lakers

tbone2171
07-21-2009, 05:08 PM
NBA needs to rename the league to NDA..National Disparity Association. There's about 4-5 teams that ever win the championship.

ko8e24
07-21-2009, 05:12 PM
after really thinking about it

1) Spurs (63-19)
2) Lakers (61-21)
3) Magic (60-22)
4) Celtics (58-24)
5) Cavaliers (58-24)
6) Dallas (55-27)


WCF-Lakers vs Spurs (Lakeshow in 7 @ San Antonio)

ECF-Celtics vs Magic (Celtics in 6 @ Boston)

NBA Finals

Celtics-Lakers (Lakers in 6 @ LA) = REPEAT!

bostncelts34
07-21-2009, 05:14 PM
assuming all teams stay healthy, and this is without having odom on the lakers...id say..

Boston
SA
Lakers
Orlando
Cleveland
Dallas

RLundi
07-21-2009, 05:18 PM
Lakers
Celtics
Magic
Spurs
Cavs
Mavs

JordansBulls
07-22-2009, 05:33 PM
Should be:

Parker/Hill
Mason/Manu
Jefferson/Finley/Hairston
McDyess/Blair/Mahinmi (gag)
Duncan/Bonner/Haislip/Mahinmi

So Finley won't start anymore?

P.I.
07-22-2009, 05:46 PM
I will never put Cavs in top 5 as long as they have Anderson Varejao on starting 5 that guy is a scrub. PF: Anderson Varejao/J.J Hickson/Joe Smith thats a crap bench too. Toronto is much more a deeper team than them same with Orlando they beat the Cavs bench with Michael Pietrus only now they add Barnes.


1. Lakers/Boston (lakers would go no.1 if Odom signs)
3. Magic
4. Spurs
5. Dallas

JordansBulls
07-23-2009, 06:34 PM
With the Spurs getting Ratliff that turns the tables now.

ko8e24
07-23-2009, 06:43 PM
With the Spurs getting Ratliff that turns the tables now.

wut table???? :confused: there's nothing to turn lol

FaceDown91
07-23-2009, 06:45 PM
With the Spurs getting Ratliff that turns the tables now.

u have got to be kidding :laugh2:

MJ-BULLS
07-23-2009, 06:49 PM
orlando
lakers (if the sign odom they will be one)
boston
san antonio
dallas
cleveland

drobe86
07-23-2009, 07:04 PM
lol.... You people really hate the Mavs. How the heck do you rank the Spurs ahead of us when we have owned them in every playoff series dating back to 2005. We beat that group 4 games to 1 in the playoffs with a guy named Antoine Wright starting at SG. Keep doubting us we love it.... When you really look at it none of the teams in the west have really gotten better but the Mavs. The lakers lost Ariza and possibly Odom and gained Artest. Personally I would take Ariza and Odom. The Spurs added Richard jefferson a mere volume shooter who plays 0 defense, and they lost 3 quality role players, and besides the fact they can never stay healthy. The Mavs added a 4 time all star to an already solid team. You can hate all you want, but we will be in contention.

Brooklyn Mets
07-23-2009, 07:06 PM
i think the mavs are going to do some damage out there.. theyll still be behind LA and SA though..

Kakaroach
07-23-2009, 09:50 PM
Orlando
LA
San Antonio
Boston
Cleveland
Dallas

prodigy
07-23-2009, 09:59 PM
before I answer 2 things.

1. Odom needs to resign first, that is the difference between 1st and 2nd for them. I think he will resign so i will go with that.

2. I will also list my teams considering if they stay healthy. Little nicks here and there are fine, but im talking about lebron, kobe, howard out for weeks.

LA
cavs
spurs
boston
orlando




mavs(why are they here?)

AllTheWay
07-24-2009, 01:23 AM
How about we wait until the ****ing offseason is over?

JordansBulls
07-24-2009, 02:21 AM
u have got to be kidding :laugh2:

:confused:

bowieinspace
07-24-2009, 02:39 AM
Bulls
Cavs
Lakers
Spurs
Magic

69centers
07-24-2009, 02:44 AM
Boston
SA
LA
ORL
Cavs
Dallas

exactly mine, too

mason c
07-24-2009, 02:54 AM
Lakers
Cavs
Spurs
Celtics
Magic
Dallas
Denver
Suns

Squad13
07-24-2009, 03:23 AM
Lakers are #1 until proven otherwise.

#1Mavericksfan
07-24-2009, 03:25 AM
Lakers are #1 until proven otherwise.

Nahh.......really?

D-Will4Prez
07-24-2009, 04:45 AM
Boston
LA
Magic
Cavs
Spurs (they are getting too old I think)
Mavs

TRF929
07-24-2009, 05:09 AM
Boston
LA
Magic
Cavs
Spurs (they are getting too old I think)
Mavs

this is coming from someone that put Boston #1....lol

do you even know the Celtics, all their guys are old, and their one big addition this offseason, Wallace, is older than anyone else on that team. Being a Spurs fan everyone that says their getting old, have no knowledge of players. now if you said injury-prone, thats more reasonable but im still going to say, Manu is going to be healthy all season, nothing major atleast. Pop will make sure of that. Duncan still played being injured, thats all heart right there and with additions to the roster, he won't have to do that this year. Pop will keep him healthy. Dyess is the same age as wallace, being 10 days apart, but he dosnt whine and give up on games as wallace did. and Finley he's not going to be getting the minutes he has been these past couple years, so i dont care about him and he's backup, i think haislip could pull ahead of finley in depth.

so after that said, and ppl not knowing what their talking about when they say anything spurs related, will now rank

Lakers, i hate them but... i have to do it (without Odom they will fall, but not too far = maybe tied with Spurs
Magic
Spurs, old my ***
Celtics, the true old ones, and we have to see how KG comes back
Cavs
Mavs

j-mart
07-24-2009, 08:25 AM
Cavs
Celtics
Lakers
Spurs
Magic

Anon
07-24-2009, 08:50 AM
Lakers
Magic
Cavs
Spus
Celtics

MajorFloridaFan
07-24-2009, 09:47 AM
lakers
Magic
Celts
Cavs
Spurs

FairWeatherFan?
07-24-2009, 11:05 AM
Lakers
Cavs
Spurs
Celtics
Magic
Dallas

king4day
07-24-2009, 11:11 AM
The second Orlando matched Gortat, I removed Dallas from the elite. So here's my list.

Orlando
Boston
Cleveland
LA (I'm confident they'll resign Odom. But if they don't, I have them further down the list)
San Antonio

Dallas

prodigy
07-24-2009, 11:31 AM
lakers if artest stays grounded and controlled then he is a huge pickup. Also if the lakers resign odom they have a great shot at repeating. Kobe showed for the first time last season that he was braking down in the playoffs. He will need more rest throughout the season. bynum needs to stay healthy.


cavs are a very good deeeeep team. If they sign moon today he will be there 9th or 10th man. lol thats pretty good.


Spurs are older, but still pretty good. jefferson will be huge. I got alot of respect for this team.


celtics Need garnett to be 100% healthy. They are old and this is most likely there last chance to win a title with this core. Sheed will also have to fit in. says he will be fine coming off the bench, but really? we need proof of this. Plus he was not very good last season, relied on the 3pt shot wayyy to much.


magic will have to reprove themselfs. Magic lost the main reason they beat cleveland. turk and his height. Then replace him with a guy 5 inches shorter and someone who the cavs have a great history of stopping. where's the improvement? nelson looked horrible in the playoffs last season, So he will need to be in great shape and ready to go.

JordansBulls
07-24-2009, 01:08 PM
The second Orlando matched Gortat, I removed Dallas from the elite. So here's my list.

Orlando
Boston
Cleveland
LA (I'm confident they'll resign Odom. But if they don't, I have them further down the list)
San Antonio

Dallas

How was having Gortat going to make them elite in the first place?

king4day
07-24-2009, 01:22 PM
How was having Gortat going to make them elite in the first place?

Very fast, good defensive team.
He's more talented than Dampier.
They would be similar to the Suns of a few years ago.

Kidd like Nash
Howard like JJ (Not as good but still effective)
Marion
Dirk like Amar'e
Gortat similar to Diaw. Not as good a play maker but better defender and rebounder. More aggressive.

Terry like Barbosa

WadeCounty
07-24-2009, 01:40 PM
lakers
celtics
cavs
spurs (if stay healthy)
orlando
mavs

rabzouz 96
07-24-2009, 01:47 PM
dunno why everybody puts the mavs up there, they dont belong into the same category as the other teams, and neither marion nor gortat (would) change that. marion didnt catapult neither heat nor raps to new heights i dont see mavs that improved,nuggets are still better.

cowboyz180
07-24-2009, 01:53 PM
LA
Boston
Sanantonio
Olrando
Dallas
Cavs

gmac2824
07-24-2009, 01:56 PM
Orlando
Cleveland
San Antonio
Denver
Washington

Why no Boston or Lakers?

Boston is losing all their role players and age is gonna catch up to them. Artest is gonna hurt the Lakers more than anything, if Odom doesn't re-sign they'll be lucky to make it out of the first round of the playoffs

JordansBulls
07-26-2009, 10:48 PM
Orlando
Cleveland
San Antonio
Denver
Washington

Why no Boston or Lakers?

Boston is losing all their role players and age is gonna catch up to them. Artest is gonna hurt the Lakers more than anything, if Odom doesn't re-sign they'll be lucky to make it out of the first round of the playoffs


You put Washington on that list a team who hasn't done anything over the last 2 champions?
:speechless:

JordansBulls
07-30-2009, 10:24 PM
Looks like mostly every top team is set now.

Drunk Kosar 19
07-30-2009, 11:26 PM
Cavs
magic
lakers
nuggets
spurs
boston

IndiansFan337
08-03-2009, 12:08 PM
I think that ORL & Boston are the best two teams in the NBA, right now, if healthy.

With that being said, it would be extremely foolish for ORL to start Bass at PF. The competitive advantage that ORL possessed last season & led them to the NBA Finals was the fact that they could present match up problems all over the court. I think that they should start Pietrus at SG & VC at SF. I even think Barnes would be a better starter than Bass.

I also do believe that Cleveland can beat any team in a postseason series.

Dallas is the worst of the six listed teams. I really think if they would have got Gortat they would have been a much better team. Every time that I have seen him play he has impressed me quite a bit. I assume you listed them because they are one of the six teams that really went hard this offseason & added to their payroll, but I am not even sure they will be among the West's top 3 next season regardless.

Lakers4ItAll
08-03-2009, 12:21 PM
Lakers
Boston
Magic
Spurs
Cavs

Lakers4ItAll
08-03-2009, 12:22 PM
I think that ORL & Boston are the best two teams in the NBA, right now, if healthy.

With that being said, it would be extremely foolish for ORL to start Bass at PF. The competitive advantage that ORL possessed last season & led them to the NBA Finals was the fact that they could present match up problems all over the court. I think that they should start Pietrus at SG & VC at SF. I even think Barnes would be a better starter than Bass.

I also do believe that Cleveland can beat any team in a postseason series.

Dallas is the worst of the six listed teams. I really think if they would have got Gortat they would have been a much better team. Every time that I have seen him play he has impressed me quite a bit. I assume you listed them because they are one of the six teams that really went hard this offseason & added to their payroll, but I am not even sure they will be among the West's top 3 next season regardless.

All that and you don't even mention the Lakers??? homer....

bigsams50
08-03-2009, 12:34 PM
1.LA(only cuz they are the champs)
2.Boston
3.Cleveland
4.Orlando

johnsark
08-03-2009, 01:06 PM
Rank the teams on who will end up with the best records in order?


Cleveland
PG: Mo Williams/Daniel Gibson
SG: Delonte West/Anthony Parker
SF: LeBron James/Jamario Moon
PF: Anderson Varejao/J.J Hickson/Joe Smith (if re-signs)
C: Shaquille O'Neal/Zydrunas Ilgauskas



Boston
PG Rondo/Pruitt
SG Allen/House/Tony Allen/Giddens)
SF Pierce/Daniels (Walker)
PF Garnett/Big Baby/Powe
C Perkins/Sheed (Swift)


Orlando
PG - Jameer Nelson, Anthony Johnson
SG - Vince Carter, Michael Pietrus, JJ Redick
SF - Rashard Lewis, Matt Barnes
PF - Brandon Bass, Ryan Anderson
C - Dwight Howard, Marcin Gortat



LA Lakers
PG Fisher/S. Brown/Farmar
SG Kobe/Sasha
SF Artest/Walton/Morrison
PF Gasol/Odom/Powell
C Bynum/DJ Mbenga



San Antonio
PG Parker/George Hill
SG Finley/Manu/Roger Mason
SF Jefferson/DeJuan Blair/Ime Udoka
PF Duncan/Ratliff
C Mcdyess/Bonner


Dallas Mavericks

PG Jason Kidd / J.J. Barea / Rodrigue Beaubois
SG Josh Howard / Jason Terry / Matt Carroll
SF Shawn Marion / Quinton Ross / Shawne Williams
PF Dirk Nowitzki / Kris Humphries
C Erick Dampier / Drew Gooden / Nathan Jawai

Boston...no holes
LA ...pretty close to no holes
Orlando...If nelson goes down again, they have nobody
Cleveland...shaq will never hold up. Varejao is GARBAGE!!, no bench
Distant 5th
Dallas... I just don't see Marion being the missing piece..it's the same team.
Distant 6th
SA...even after adding Jefferson, to old, window has shut.

VIP1349
08-03-2009, 01:48 PM
You do realize the Nuggets lost only Dahntay Jones added Ty Lawson and Arron Afflalo and JR Smith, Carmelo Anthony, and Nene are improving. How exactly were we left out of the Contenders. Just because we didn't spend 20 Million on guys doesn't mean we aren't good. I'd put us right up there with the big dogs (Lakers).

Brooke
08-03-2009, 01:51 PM
You do realize the Nuggets lost only Dahntay Jones added Ty Lawson and Arron Afflalo and JR Smith, Carmelo Anthony, and Nene are improving. How exactly were we left out of the Contenders. Just because we didn't spend 20 Million on guys doesn't mean we aren't good. I'd put us right up there with the big dogs (Lakers).

and I'd agree with you. I put Denver right up there

Lakers
Celtics
Magic
Spurs
Cavs
Nuggets



All that and you don't even mention the Lakers??? homer....

Tell me about it

magichatnumber9
08-03-2009, 02:14 PM
Pruitt is not with Boston anymore. There is sort of a question mark at back up point for Boston. L.A are the Champs so they deserve the top spot regardless. Then I got to go with Clev and Orl tied for that 2nd spot. Then my Celts.

JordansBulls
08-03-2009, 02:29 PM
Boston...no holes
LA ...pretty close to no holes
Orlando...If nelson goes down again, they have nobody
Cleveland...shaq will never hold up. Varejao is GARBAGE!!, no bench
Distant 5th
Dallas... I just don't see Marion being the missing piece..it's the same team.
Distant 6th
SA...even after adding Jefferson, to old, window has shut.

I don't believe San Antonio's window has shut yet.

Nexus
08-03-2009, 02:49 PM
Cleveland:

- Wallace and Vujacic
+ Shaq, Parker, Moon

Fit? Clogs the lane, doesn't really help the pick and roll defense against Orlando but does give Howard something to think about and adds depth.

Orlando:

- Turkoglu, Lee
+ Carter, Barnes, Bass, Anderson

They may have lost a bit of youth and versatility, but I think you'll find a guy like Carter can still be a 25-5-5 guy in the playoffs and when you add that to a deep team that includes Dwight it's scary. Their top assist man is Nelson with 4 and a half, but they have inside presence, outside presence, and D. Carter wonít make a huge difference during the season, but depth and Howardís improved post game will

Boston:

+ Rasheed, Daniels
- Big Baby? Pruitt?

This is a team that won the championship handedly two years ago versus the team that won the championship handedly last year. They took finalist Orlando to 7 games without their pace-setting best player.

Fit? They now have a notable bench player in both the back and the front court whether it be Sheed or Perk. Both of whom can dance with Shaq and Howard. I think theyíre the team to beat.

Lakers:

Just got their 6th man back. Replaced Ariza with Artest

Iíd say youíve got more skill but less fit. Bynum continues to improve.

San Antonio:

+ Jefferson, Dyess, Ratliff, Blair
- Bowen, Oberto, Thomas

This is a team that had 54 wins with key injuries to key players. Now theyíve added Jefferson, Ratliff, Dyess and Blair. Blair can make an immediate impact as a backup.

Fit? Positionally, you couldnít ask for a better fit. As far as skillsets, the Spurs look balanced too.

Dallas:

+ Marion, Beaubois, Humpries, Jawai
- Wright, George, Stack

Itís too bad they missed out on Gortat cause I donít see Gooden as a good fit here. You want more than a stat-padder to compliment Dirk. Marion will help out with rebounds, but he no longer helps Dallas become a less jump shooting team. I donít see them as a contender simply because they havenít filled the gap at center. I still think Dampier would be a perfect backup center.

But with Dallas, we could be looking at six 60 win teams (probably more like 4 with injuries). Still, thatís a top heavy league and watching the titans clash will be a lot of fun.

My rankings during the season would be:

Cleveland
Lakers
Boston
San Antonio
Orlando
Dallas

And during the playoffs:

Boston
Lakers
San Antonio
Orlando
Cleveland
Dallas

All very close until Dallas. I actually think Cleveland could take some of the slower paced teams above them, but well see.

Gibby23
08-03-2009, 03:48 PM
1. Lakers: They are the champs and got better with Artest.

2. Boston: Previous champs, KG coming back, Rondo and Perk are getting better, and added Rasheed.

3. Spurs: Championship leval team added another Major piece in Jefferson. All they need is to stay healthy for a playoff run.

4. Orlando: Howard should be better and I think Vince is an upgrade over Hedo.

5. Dallas: They look good on paper and I think Marion will be putting up his all star numbere with Kidd running th point and pushing tempo, that is when Marion is at his best.

6. Cavs: I don't think they match the 39-2 home record. All teams listed above can beat them in 6 or less. Mo Williams and West will not play as good as last year and I don't think Shaq can have 2 good years in a row at this age.

GAWDtv
08-03-2009, 04:32 PM
Cleveland 70 wins
PG: Mo Williams/Daniel Gibson
SG: Anthony Parker/Delonte West
SF: LeBron James/Jamario Moon
PF: Anderson Varejao/J.J Hickson/Joe Smith (if re-signs)
C: Shaquille O'Neal/Zydrunas Ilgauskas

San Antonio 65 wins
PG Parker/Roger Mason/George Hill
SG Manu/Finley/Roger Mason
SF Jefferson//Ime Udoka
PF Duncan/DeJuan Blair/Ratliff
C Mcdyess/Bonner


Orlando 67 wins
PG - Jameer Nelson, Anthony Johnson
SG - Vince Carter, Michael Pietrus, JJ Redick
SF - Rashard Lewis, Matt Barnes
PF - Brandon Bass, Ryan Anderson
C - Dwight Howard, Marcin Gortat

LA Lakers 65 wins
PG Fisher/S. Brown/Farmar
SG Kobe/Sasha
SF Artest/Walton/Morrison
PF Gasol/Odom/Powell
C Bynum/DJ Mbenga

Boston 59 wins
PG Rondo/Pruitt
SG Allen/House/Tony Allen/Giddens)
SF Pierce/Daniels (Walker)
PF Garnett/Big Baby/Powe
C Perkins/Sheed (Swift) They should go get AI


Dallas Mavericks 50 wins

PG Jason Kidd / J.J. Barea / Rodrigue Beaubois
SG Josh Howard / Jason Terry / Matt Carroll
SF Shawn Marion / Quinton Ross / Shawne Williams
PF Dirk Nowitzki /Drew Gooden /Kris Humphries
C Erick Dampier / Nathan Jawai

younggunn113
08-03-2009, 04:47 PM
Cleveland 70 wins
PG: Mo Williams/Daniel Gibson
SG: Anthony Parker/Delonte West
SF: LeBron James/Jamario Moon
PF: Anderson Varejao/J.J Hickson/Joe Smith (if re-signs)
C: Shaquille O'Neal/Zydrunas Ilgauskas

San Antonio 65 wins
PG Parker/Roger Mason/George Hill
SG Manu/Finley/Roger Mason
SF Jefferson//Ime Udoka
PF Duncan/DeJuan Blair/Ratliff
C Mcdyess/Bonner


Orlando 67 wins
PG - Jameer Nelson, Anthony Johnson
SG - Vince Carter, Michael Pietrus, JJ Redick
SF - Rashard Lewis, Matt Barnes
PF - Brandon Bass, Ryan Anderson
C - Dwight Howard, Marcin Gortat

LA Lakers 65 wins
PG Fisher/S. Brown/Farmar
SG Kobe/Sasha
SF Artest/Walton/Morrison
PF Gasol/Odom/Powell
C Bynum/DJ Mbenga

Boston 59 wins
PG Rondo/Pruitt
SG Allen/House/Tony Allen/Giddens)
SF Pierce/Daniels (Walker)
PF Garnett/Big Baby/Powe
C Perkins/Sheed (Swift) They should go get AI


Dallas Mavericks 50 wins

PG Jason Kidd / J.J. Barea / Rodrigue Beaubois
SG Josh Howard / Jason Terry / Matt Carroll
SF Shawn Marion / Quinton Ross / Shawne Williams
PF Dirk Nowitzki /Drew Gooden /Kris Humphries
C Erick Dampier / Nathan Jawai

If you include the playoffs the Cavs went 5-10 (3-6 regular season) against Boston, Orlando, and the Lakers last year. All of those teams have had greater additions to their teams than Cleveland. The teams they went 3-6 against also improved themselves more this offseason than the Cavs did. If you factor in the moves SA made too I can't see the Cavs winning 70 games. Its almost impossible to win 70 these days, plus like the whole debate of this thread, these powerhouses are going to knock the snot out of each other when they play. I think the additions of Artest, Sheed, VC, and Jefferson are all bigger moves than the Cavs adding Shaq and another shooter in Parker. I think the Lakers will have the best record at 66-16, not a homer, but the west isnt as strong as the east top to bottom. Outside of the Nuggets, Blazers, and Spurs I dont see the Lakers having much of an issue. I think theyre better than those 3 teams but they will lose some games, and of couse have some slip ups, but if they remain healthy I think they have the best shot at the best record simply because they are in the west. I would say the same thing about Boston or Orlando if they were out there instead of LA, but theyre not...

Lakers4ItAll
08-03-2009, 05:35 PM
LMAO @ CLE winning 70 games and "still being the team to beat". How are they "still" the team to beat when they didn't even win the east last season???

JordansBulls
08-03-2009, 05:40 PM
Cleveland 70 wins
PG: Mo Williams/Daniel Gibson
SG: Anthony Parker/Delonte West
SF: LeBron James/Jamario Moon
PF: Anderson Varejao/J.J Hickson/Joe Smith (if re-signs)
C: Shaquille O'Neal/Zydrunas Ilgauskas

San Antonio 65 wins
PG Parker/Roger Mason/George Hill
SG Manu/Finley/Roger Mason
SF Jefferson//Ime Udoka
PF Duncan/DeJuan Blair/Ratliff
C Mcdyess/Bonner


Orlando 67 wins
PG - Jameer Nelson, Anthony Johnson
SG - Vince Carter, Michael Pietrus, JJ Redick
SF - Rashard Lewis, Matt Barnes
PF - Brandon Bass, Ryan Anderson
C - Dwight Howard, Marcin Gortat

LA Lakers 65 wins
PG Fisher/S. Brown/Farmar
SG Kobe/Sasha
SF Artest/Walton/Morrison
PF Gasol/Odom/Powell
C Bynum/DJ Mbenga

Boston 59 wins
PG Rondo/Pruitt
SG Allen/House/Tony Allen/Giddens)
SF Pierce/Daniels (Walker)
PF Garnett/Big Baby/Powe
C Perkins/Sheed (Swift) They should go get AI


Dallas Mavericks 50 wins

PG Jason Kidd / J.J. Barea / Rodrigue Beaubois
SG Josh Howard / Jason Terry / Matt Carroll
SF Shawn Marion / Quinton Ross / Shawne Williams
PF Dirk Nowitzki /Drew Gooden /Kris Humphries
C Erick Dampier / Nathan Jawai


Cleveland ain't winning 70 games.

Run&Gun
08-03-2009, 06:00 PM
Cavs was the best record last year and they have more improvement than the lakers in the offseason
Magic toss up between lakers, magic and boston will probably only be like 3 games apart from each other.
Lakers
Boston
San Antonio- Who I hate to watch but you know they are going to be up there, it's like they have some lucky charm or somethig

Gibby23
08-03-2009, 06:13 PM
Cavs was the best record last year and they have more improvement than the lakers in the offseasonMagic toss up between lakers, magic and boston will probably only be like 3 games apart from each other.
Lakers
Boston
San Antonio- Who I hate to watch but you know they are going to be up there, it's like they have some lucky charm or somethig

How so? Shaq had one good year after 3 years of a stedy decline. People act like he is an up and coming player, when the truth is that he is on the decline. Don't let that 1 year fool you.


***Regular season means nothing when you had a losing record against the other 3 top teams, and if you fail to even get to the finals.

Hawkeye15
08-03-2009, 06:39 PM
who knows?? We have no idea who will suffer injuries. And you can't expect the Cavs to keep that dominance with their current roster. I would guess the Lakers, Cavs, and Spurs will battle it out for the best record. Orlando will be up there too. Boston will probably be more concerned with resting their vets for the playoffs. Cleveland could very well have the best record again, they have the most to prove

RaptorsFanatic
08-03-2009, 07:01 PM
These threads piss the **** out of me. THE SEASON HASN'T STARTED AND THIS IS THE NBA, ANYTHING CAN ****IN HAPPEN! DONT ****IN GENERALIZE AND PUT ONLY THOSE FEW TEAMS ON THE LIST THAT WILL HAVE THE BEST RECORD.

YES THEY HAVE A SOLID TEAM, BUT CHEMISTRY IS MORE IMPORTANT.

My point is, there's no point of making a thread with only 6 teams and having a poll with which team will have the best record, it aint fair for the rest of the 24 teams in the league. Not fair the for team and the fans that support them as well. All fans of every team hope their team has the best record every year...
Just a little frustration, thats all.

Toenail Clipper
08-03-2009, 07:10 PM
Lakers
Magic
Celtics
Spurs
Cavs

JordansBulls
08-03-2009, 08:32 PM
who knows?? We have no idea who will suffer injuries. And you can't expect the Cavs to keep that dominance with their current roster. I would guess the Lakers, Cavs, and Spurs will battle it out for the best record. Orlando will be up there too. Boston will probably be more concerned with resting their vets for the playoffs. Cleveland could very well have the best record again, they have the most to prove

I think Boston will want the best record as well seeing they would have to play Orlando and Cleveland if they don't get the top seed.

JJ_JKidd
08-03-2009, 09:11 PM
Where are the New Orleans Hornets? :confused:

JordansBulls
08-03-2009, 10:09 PM
Where are the New Orleans Hornets? :confused:

They were the 7th seed last year and just got Okafor for Chandler. They may have improved, but I doubt they jump that much. But stranger things have happened.

JJ_JKidd
08-04-2009, 12:02 AM
They were the 7th seed last year and just got Okafor for Chandler. They may have improved, but I doubt they jump that much. But stranger things have happened.

Surprisingly, the WCF Finalist Denver Nuggets is also not on the list :confused:

evadatam5150
08-04-2009, 12:53 AM
Dallas is in the list if you guys did not notice.

We didn't notice,, nor does it matter.. This list doesn't matter because it really doesn't matter who has the best record, the team with the best record rarely wins the title.. The goal is to win the championship and not get the best record..

BoltLakerPadre
08-04-2009, 01:35 AM
if odom signs with L.A. I'll post then

Now that it's done you can put the Lakers on the top.

The East still has a bunch of weak *** teams, but the top is going to beat themselves up a bit.

The West is still tough 1 through 9 or 10, but this Lakers team will play some tough ball.

dre1990
08-04-2009, 02:02 AM
1.Lakers
2.Magic
3.Spurs
4. Denver
5.Dallas
6. Cavs

J-Relo
08-04-2009, 03:30 AM
1. Lakers
2. Cavaliers
3. Magic
4. Spurs
5. Boston
6. Mavericks

yanpeijian
08-04-2009, 03:55 AM
They are all perfect ,but it seems Lakers is mroe better because it is the champion in the league!But as it goes saying that "Impossible is nothing (http://www.dunksb.us)",everything will happen in the court!

JordansBulls
08-04-2009, 01:13 PM
Surprisingly, the WCF Finalist Denver Nuggets is also not on the list :confused:

They haven't improved. I essentially put every team on the list that has an allstar big man as those are the teams that will win the title.

Brooke
08-04-2009, 01:17 PM
Cavs was the best record last year and they have more improvement than the lakers in the offseason


How so? the Lakers essentially got everyone back, Artest is better than Ariza at this point in their careers and LO was the wildcard and they re-signed him




Regular season means nothing when you had a losing record against the other 3 top teams, and if you fail to even get to the finals

:clap:

JordansBulls
08-04-2009, 02:34 PM
Due or Die year for the Spurs.

D_Rose1118
08-04-2009, 02:57 PM
1.Lakers
2.Magic
3.Boston
4.Spurs
5.Cavaliers

this

CowboysKB24
08-04-2009, 03:34 PM
Lakers
Magic
Boston
Spurs
Cavs
Dallas

CowboysKB24
08-04-2009, 03:35 PM
Due or Die year for the Spurs.

Definitely agree. I think we will know if the Spurs are going to have a legit chance by mid-season though. I think they are either going to be really great or pretty much be the same as last year.

CowboysKB24
08-04-2009, 03:38 PM
How so? the Lakers essentially got everyone back, Artest is better than Ariza at this point in their careers and LO was the wildcard and they re-signed him



:clap:

I agree. Cavs overachieved last season. It was because they have an easier schedule against those in the West. The Eastern Conference is only top heavy and then really bad after a few teams. The media blew them up and the team's "head" (ego) was too big. It is noticed when they started doing there pregame prethought dances and shows. Next season the Cavs will have a great record but I doubt they'll be a 67 win team next year.

Magic is more of a threat now, Boston is back. Cavs took a hit emotionally and mentally after losing to the Magic. I think last season is good for the Cavs in the long run. I've always said there biggest problem was experience and maturity. Leadership did get much better from LBJ.

JordansBulls
08-04-2009, 03:57 PM
Definitely agree. I think we will know if the Spurs are going to have a legit chance by mid-season though. I think they are either going to be really great or pretty much be the same as last year.

Hopefully really great.;)

NYCkid12
08-04-2009, 03:59 PM
Dallas is in the list if you guys did not notice.


well they shuldnt be...cuz theyre not in the same league as the lakers, spurs, magic, celts, and cavs

JordansBulls
08-04-2009, 05:21 PM
well they shuldnt be...cuz theyre not in the same league as the lakers, spurs, magic, celts, and cavs

Why not? They have improved and they have been in the finals recently just like each of those teams above.

GeorgeMcCloud21
08-05-2009, 10:07 PM
Boston: 62-20
Los Angeles: 60:22
Dallas: 55-27
San Antonio: 54-28
Orlando: 50-32
Cleveland: 50-32

JordansBulls
08-06-2009, 08:37 AM
Boston: 62-20
Los Angeles: 60:22
Dallas: 55-27
San Antonio: 54-28
Orlando: 50-32
Cleveland: 50-32

Those teams will all win nearly 60+ games.

FairWeatherFan?
08-06-2009, 08:40 AM
Those teams will all win nearly 60+ games.

Agreed. The divide that separated the elite from the rest of the field last season is even larger this season.

NetsMetsJets
08-06-2009, 09:07 AM
Dallas is in the list if you guys did not notice.

They shouldn't be listed with these other teams

Celtics
Lakers
Spurs
Cavs
Magic

I watched VC a lot,he is not a winner.

bigsams50
08-06-2009, 09:18 AM
Los Angeles: 67-75
Boston:61-21
Cleveland: 60-22
Orlando: 58-24
San Antonio: 54-28
Dallas: 52-30

JordansBulls
08-06-2009, 01:23 PM
They shouldn't be listed with these other teams

Celtics
Lakers
Spurs
Cavs
Magic

I watched VC a lot,he is not a winner.

Maybe because he never has played on an elite team?

Lakerfan In NY
08-06-2009, 03:55 PM
Lakers
Cavs
Spurs
Boston
Magic

Bleeds Blue
08-06-2009, 04:33 PM
lakers
celtics
magic
cavs
spurs

mavs

MTar786
08-06-2009, 05:25 PM
1 LA
2 Boston
3 Orlando
4 San antonio
5 Cleveland
6 dallas

Bashna
08-06-2009, 05:32 PM
Whats with Dallas being a sudden super contender all of a sudden? I'd put the Nuggets and maybe even portland above the mavs. I know they got better, but not THAT much better? We'll see what happens though.

GeorgeMcCloud21
08-06-2009, 10:20 PM
Mavs OWN Portland first off..
And as for the Spurs winning 60 games...HA

JordansBulls
08-07-2009, 08:35 AM
Mavs OWN Portland first off..
And as for the Spurs winning 60 games...HA

Spurs certainly can win 60 games.

CELTICS4LYFE
08-07-2009, 10:55 AM
Boston won 62 games last yr, now they are healthy and more talented....scary!

prodigy
08-07-2009, 10:56 AM
Boston won 62 games last yr, now they are healthy and more talented....scary!


I do agree with that, But same thing could be said for the cavs.

CELTICS4LYFE
08-07-2009, 10:57 AM
1.Lakers
2.Magic
3.Spurs
4. Denver
5.Dallas
6. Cavs

:smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :smoking:

CELTICS4LYFE
08-07-2009, 10:58 AM
I do agree with that, But same thing could be said for the cavs.

they were healthy all yr tho...they didnt really secure that #1 seed till kg got hurt

prodigy
08-07-2009, 10:59 AM
knicks
clippers
thunder
timberwolves

nuff said.......

prodigy
08-07-2009, 11:05 AM
they were healthy all yr tho...they didnt really secure that #1 seed till kg got hurt


well Z, west, gibson were all hurt a good part of the year. But I was talking more about them adding players. Shaq, parker, moon all fit are system great. moon is are 10th or 11th man lol. He started for the raptors and heat.

JordansBulls
08-07-2009, 11:31 PM
1.Lakers
2.Magic
3.Spurs
4. Denver
5.Dallas
6. Cavs

And no Celtics???

Mavrix
08-08-2009, 12:07 AM
And no Celtics???Take Denver out and make them #7 and change it to Boston

blazerman
08-08-2009, 12:31 AM
Mavs OWN Portland first off..
And as for the Spurs winning 60 games...HA

Mavs dont own nothing but a bunch of has beens.

Mavs may have won all 4 last season but the sad part is the Blazers still had a better record. The Blazers will have Webster back and a good pg guard to run the team. The Mavs didnt address any weaknesses but did bring in some weak players. Marion is alright but between him and Horward at the sf position that's not gonna make a big difference.

Enjoy your preseason hopes for now because when the reg. season hits then you'll be wondering when Cuban will make another move to keep up, happens almost every yr with you guys.

Tim Thomas should get you over the hump:pity:

Chazm
08-08-2009, 11:53 AM
Lakers
Cav's
Magic
Celtics
Spurs

JordansBulls
08-08-2009, 01:00 PM
Take Denver out and make them #7 and change it to Boston

Denver needs an allstar big man.

GeorgeMcCloud21
08-21-2009, 12:13 AM
Lakers
Spurs
Mavs
Nuggets
Trailblazers
Hornets
Jazz
Clippers