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Mile High Champ
07-20-2009, 11:30 PM
Hey guys, Some of you may remember but I conducted a poll at the start of the season that had PSD users vote for the top 10 players at each position. I would like to start this up once more considering the NBA season is now over and we can get to this discussion since lots has changed since the start of last season. Please TRY AND VOTE FOR THE BEST PLAYER AND DON'T BE A HOMER. I will leave the poll open for one day and than we can carry on to the next best player at that position. I will add more players after each round...Enjoy.

REMEMBER this is based on who is the best player, not the player who has the potential to be the best.

PF Rankings DONT FORGET TO VOTE!!

1) Tim Duncan
2) Kevin Garnett
3) Dirk Nowitzki
4) Chris Bosh
5) Amare Stoudemire
6) Pau Gasol
7) Carlos Boozer
8) Antawn Jamison
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Last Years PF rankings:



1) Tim Duncan
2) Kevin Garnett
3) Amare Stoudemire
4) Chris Bosh
5) Dirk Nowitzki
6) Elton Brand
7) Carlos Boozer
8) Pau Gasol
9) Antawn Jamison
10) David West

Mile High Champ
07-20-2009, 11:32 PM
Poll is now up..

Mile High Champ
07-20-2009, 11:33 PM
Went with Rashard Lewis, he really took his game to a new level this past year, especially on defense. He has become a very nice hybrid 4 in the nba. His post game developed as well. It was between him and west for me but I like Lewis here.

MSU Spartans313
07-20-2009, 11:43 PM
I also went with Lewis, he is another guy that really stretches the D out, really stood out as a top PF this season.

Mile High Champ
07-20-2009, 11:56 PM
I also went with Lewis, he is another guy that really stretches the D out, really stood out as a top PF this season.

I am glad more people see it that way... He really developed his game this season as a PF, yes he probably does not play his natural postion but in my opinion he is arguably playing better than he ever has as a PF then when he was a SF.

Mile High Champ
07-21-2009, 12:19 AM
Really Kenyon Martin?? Why would anyone vote for him at this point...

zambo4president
07-21-2009, 12:27 AM
Rasharddddd

ManRam
07-21-2009, 12:29 AM
Lewis. He's a true SF, but he can be a huge match up nightmare...just ask Cleveland. I'd rather him over Jamison, because Jamison plays absolutely NO defense whatsoever, and Shard can play some. But this seems like a good spot for him.

SB75
07-21-2009, 12:40 AM
With what Smith brings on both ends, He has the advantage on the strictly offensive players left on this list. Excluding Aldridge and Millsap.

bogdanrom
07-21-2009, 12:54 AM
I actually went with West. It's really close, between him and Lewis. But I feel like Lewis is more of a SF than a PF. Lewis really proved a lot during the playoffs, though. I know it's kind of weird but I think that West is a better PF than Lewis, but Lewis is a better player than West.

bogdanrom
07-21-2009, 12:55 AM
With what Smith brings on both ends, He has the advantage on the strictly offensive players left on this list. Excluding Aldridge and Millsap.

Smith is also more off a SF than PF. He was kind of forced to play that position because of his defense and crazy athleticism. That's if you're talking about Josh Smith, not Craig Smith. :p

RaptorsFanatic
07-21-2009, 01:17 AM
Zach might have a bad attitude and off-court issues, but he is one hell of a player.
Averaging 20 and 10 in the NBA isn't by fluke, and ZBO should be in the top 10, as an INDIVIDUAL PLAYER.

Sean McG
07-21-2009, 01:29 AM
Lewis for me. He was one of my favourite SuperSonics and some of his clutch shots in the playoffs wowed me.

Mile High Champ
07-21-2009, 08:30 AM
Please continue to get more votes in...

JDMac80
07-21-2009, 08:40 AM
How easily people forget who someone is when they are hurt. Elton Brand anyone??

CELTICS4LYFE
07-21-2009, 08:56 AM
how easily people forget who someone is when they are hurt. Elton brand anyone??

i been voting for him....no love for him tho...

pebloemer
07-21-2009, 09:01 AM
i been voting for him....no love for him tho...

It's the "Tracy McGrady affect." So many times we see players go through injury after injury and when they finally are healthy, they are not quite the same player. Other times, we see players have a few big injuries, but are able to bounce back from them. Elton Brand has had two large injuries over the course of the past two years. When evaluating who is the better player currently, how can anyone determine it when they haven't seen him play more than a 30 game stretch? Last year he averaged far below his career averages then got injured. It is not that I think he is less talented, more that there is a cloud of "unknown" that falls over him. Similar to McGrady and Arenas.

Kakaroach
07-21-2009, 10:44 AM
These last 2 spots are toss-ups between David West, Rashard Lewis, and Zack Randolph. I went with West here though.

ManRam
07-21-2009, 10:51 AM
How easily people forget who someone is when they are hurt. Elton Brand anyone??

When he was healthy this year, he flat out SUCKED. Horrendous.

And people are talking about Josh Smith being a good defender??? Sure he can block shots, but that doesn't make you a good defender. At PF, opponents have a higher PER vs. him than he does vs. opposing PFs. His net on the court/off the court is very unflattering. Lewis holds opponent PFs to a PER of 14.2 compared to Smith's 19.7! That's a huge difference. His net on the court/off the court is +10.2, compared to Smith's +4.2 points.

Don't give me the whole Josh Smith is good at defense thing. His one-on-one defense is terrible. He is a good shot blocker, and a better rebounder, but he is not a good defender.

Unruly Fan
07-21-2009, 11:03 AM
David West. Averages solid numbers, most importantly in rebs, and is not an SF in disguise (Lewis).

dolfan720
07-21-2009, 11:13 AM
i went harrington

J_M_B
07-21-2009, 11:23 AM
Rashard Lewis for me followed by David West.

slaker619
07-21-2009, 11:24 AM
Smith

PBG
07-21-2009, 11:30 AM
went with david wewst

Ace33Bone
07-21-2009, 11:51 AM
Josh Smith is def better than Jamison as well as Lewis. I think people only watch one end of the floor because yes Jamison and Lewis are better than him on the offensive end but neither of them even knows what the word defense is. J. Smith all the way for this one

Mile High Champ
07-21-2009, 01:32 PM
i went harrington

I think he is a very overated players, his numbers are inflated because of Dantoni's system.... Not a fan of him at al..

bogdanrom
07-21-2009, 03:00 PM
I think he is a very overated players, his numbers are inflated because of Dantoni's system.... Not a fan of him at al..

Yeah me neither. But I also think he's one of those guys that are not really PF but more SF who are taller. He's a good scorer, but that's about it. He can't really rebound, no passing, bad FG&, and horrible defender. Actually looking at his stats I think he's worse than Jamison at defense.

Mile High Champ
07-21-2009, 03:53 PM
keep the votes up!!!!!!

D-Will4Prez
07-21-2009, 04:46 PM
vote4lewis

tbone2171
07-21-2009, 04:56 PM
Where's Mad Dog Madsen rank?

Wilson
07-21-2009, 06:33 PM
David Lee for me. I still feel that Lewis is just a SF playing at PF...

S-Dot
07-21-2009, 07:38 PM
How easily people forget who someone is when they are hurt. Elton Brand anyone??

If he isn't playing, it's hard to consider him as one of the best today. Rashard Lewis is my vote.

ManRam
07-21-2009, 07:43 PM
I don't get why being a "true"er SF makes you any worse of a player...especially when you're still 6-10, and still are extremely effective...holding opposing PFs to lower PERs than 90% of the guys left on the list. Lewis is 6-10. You'd be surprised how many guys on this list are shorter than him. He's a perfectly fine PF. I mean...he did get to the Finals, partially because of the mismatches he caused.

dre1990
07-21-2009, 07:49 PM
Elton Brand :mad:

*Superman*
07-21-2009, 08:14 PM
Shard for 3.

dtmagnet
07-21-2009, 08:18 PM
Shard Lewis