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JordansBulls
07-19-2009, 10:33 PM
In 2008 the Hornets was a team that took a giant leap forward. They went from a team that wasn't in the playoffs to the 2nd seed. In 2009 many were expecting similar sucess but it wasn't meant to be and the Hornets took a giant leap backwards going to the 7th seed. What team will have a similar fate this year in the NBA where they did well last year and now go backwards from what everyone is expecting?

Young2Kinsler
07-19-2009, 10:35 PM
I'd be shocked if Houston or New Orleans made the playoffs.

Kakaroach
07-19-2009, 10:35 PM
The Milwaukee Bucks will take a step back for sure with losing RJ and Charlie Vill
Houston as well with losing Yao and Artest for next season.

J_M_B
07-19-2009, 10:41 PM
Houston Rockets and Milwaukee Bucks they both lost key players to their squads. Bucks lost Richard Jefferson, Charlie Villanuvea, and possibly Ramon Sessions. The Rockets lost Yao for a season,T-Mac won't be back till February, and Artest signed with the Lakers. I can Milwaukee finishing last in the East, but I won't be shocked if the Rockets slipped into the playoffs as the 8th seed.

Raps18-19 Champ
07-19-2009, 10:43 PM
Houston and Detroit will take the biggest steps back.

bostncelts34
07-19-2009, 10:49 PM
i say chicago. Losing Gordon, and adding no one. Also, the east is alot tougher now with washington healthy, and improving teams like charlotte.

Raps18-19 Champ
07-19-2009, 10:59 PM
I agree that Bulls might fall back.

They lost their 2nd best player in the playoffs and have no one to take over. I don't care if Rose improve, you gotta replace that talent you lost with the same amount of talent to improve a lot.

TheHoopsProphet
07-19-2009, 11:06 PM
I personally think the Shaq trade was as big as a gamble as when the suns traded for him. The cavs are either going to take a step forward (weird to say that for a team who was the no.1 team in the league last year) or that team will just crumble apart and Lebron will pack his bags out of town leaving the team desolate for the next decade. Every franchise Shaq was on, he set back for years when he left.

KH12
07-19-2009, 11:12 PM
I agree that Bulls might fall back.

They lost their 2nd best player in the playoffs and have no one to take over. I don't care if Rose improve, you gotta replace that talent you lost with the same amount of talent to improve a lot.

Ben Gordon is not that good, especially not for that contract. We're getting a healthy Deng back, a full season of Salmons/Miller, Hinrich will be healthy, further development of Noah, two nice new rookies and a full year under Rose and Vinny Del Negro's belt.

We'll be fine.

...oh, and we might get Boozer, but even without him, we'll be fine.

toovey107
07-19-2009, 11:14 PM
I agree that Bulls might fall back.

They lost their 2nd best player in the playoffs and have no one to take over. I don't care if Rose improve, you gotta replace that talent you lost with the same amount of talent to improve a lot.
salmons can take over fine actually

lakers4sho
07-19-2009, 11:22 PM
Houston and Detroit will take the biggest steps back.

well Houston won't have Yao for a full season and Detroit will be rebuilding, so they're kind of expected

ink
07-19-2009, 11:25 PM
I personally think the Shaq trade was as big as a gamble as when the suns traded for him. The cavs are either going to take a step forward (weird to say that for a team who was the no.1 team in the league last year) or that team will just crumble apart and Lebron will pack his bags out of town leaving the team desolate for the next decade. Every franchise Shaq was on, he set back for years when he left.

I agree. I'm also unconvinced that the Magic improved themselves. :D Bucks, Bulls, maybe even Lakers if they lose Odom. When a team is good like Orlando, LA, and the Cavs were, it's not always easy to make the right moves to improve themselves. Jury's out.

cheerio
07-19-2009, 11:28 PM
I think it will be houston with injuries

Raps18-19 Champ
07-19-2009, 11:42 PM
salmons can take over fine actually

Ya but you would have still lost that talent.

I still see them making the plyoffs though

Raps18-19 Champ
07-19-2009, 11:43 PM
well Houston won't have Yao for a full season and Detroit will be rebuilding, so they're kind of expected

actally the bucks will give the pistons their moneys worth

UofA
07-19-2009, 11:50 PM
I can definitely see the Pistons and Rockets falling back this year

itsripcity32
07-20-2009, 12:16 AM
pistons got rid of their problem with a.i. lost an old and angry sheed who doesn't even draw fouls anymore. c vill is an upgrade over dyess.

they wont fall back, but remain the same or a little better.

bulls lost their best player. so BULLS

Raps18-19 Champ
07-20-2009, 12:24 AM
pistons got rid of their problem with a.i. lost an old and angry sheed who doesn't even draw fouls anymore. c vill is an upgrade over dyess.

they wont fall back, but remain the same or a little better.

bulls lost their best player. so BULLS

Pistons do not improve compared to the other teams who got good stuff and barely had to give up anything.

TheHoopsProphet
07-20-2009, 12:26 AM
I agree. I'm also unconvinced that the Magic improved themselves. :D Bucks, Bulls, maybe even Lakers if they lose Odom. When a team is good like Orlando, LA, and the Cavs were, it's not always easy to make the right moves to improve themselves. Jury's out.

nice

itsripcity32
07-20-2009, 12:34 AM
Pistons do not improve compared to the other teams who got good stuff and barely had to give up anything.

uhh if u think of it this way.

last year
7th seed:Bulls -Lose their best player get nobody
8th seed:Pistons-Lose Dyess, A.I(good thing), Sheed. Obtain Wilcox, and two top free agents:the leading scorer of the bulls(best player) gordon and a "borderline all-star" CV who recieved little minutes as a Buck.

Pistons>Bulls

KG2TB
07-20-2009, 12:50 AM
uhh if u think of it this way.

last year
7th seed:Bulls -Lose their best player get nobody
8th seed:Pistons-Lose Dyess, A.I(good thing), Sheed. Obtain Wilcox, and two top free agents:the leading scorer of the bulls(best player) gordon and a "borderline all-star" CV who recieved little minutes as a Buck.

Pistons>Bulls

LOL you really are persistent man. Look, this is why we play the regular season. This will all sort itself out. Your two points are fine, but you're totally either forgetting, not mentioning, or not knowing the fact that we will have Luol back for the full season, we'll have Salmons and Miller for the whole year, Kirk missed 30 games last year, don't see that happening again, and somebody by the name of Derrick Rose. He's gonna have a HUGE jump this year. Nevermind the fact, Noah is bustin his *** this off-season and VDN has a year under his belt. Just wait for the season. There's dispute when you try to predict the future, there's no dispute when the results are in

Korman12
07-20-2009, 01:14 AM
Agree with everyone who mentioned Houston and Milwaukee. But, one team that will take the biggest step back IMO is Phoenix. No doubt.

Raps18-19 Champ
07-20-2009, 01:17 AM
uhh if u think of it this way.

last year
7th seed:Bulls -Lose their best player get nobody
8th seed:Pistons-Lose Dyess, A.I(good thing), Sheed. Obtain Wilcox, and two top free agents:the leading scorer of the bulls(best player) gordon and a "borderline all-star" CV who recieved little minutes as a Buck.

Pistons>Bulls

Actually I was comparing to teams like Washington(Miller and Foye), Raptors(Turkoglu),76ers(Brand back) and even if you compare the Bulls and Pistons players, it still doesn't matter.

Rose>Gordon
Deng>Rip(Hate Deng but it is probably ture)
Salmons>Stuckey(Stuckey has a better future though)
Noah<CV31

And the rest, Bulls have better role players.

vash9
07-20-2009, 01:27 AM
I think the Rockets will fall lower. Also the Bucks. I actually think the Pistons might get a little better. They have basically 2 to go to men for scoring in RIP and Ben now. A solid all-star playing type level in CV. The Bulls in the other hand, will definitely drop. As much as a beast i think DRose is, i don't think himself alone is enough on the scoring end.

itsripcity32
07-20-2009, 01:29 AM
Actually I was comparing to teams like Washington(Miller and Foye), Raptors(Turkoglu),76ers(Brand back) and even if you compare the Bulls and Pistons players, it still doesn't matter.

Rose>Gordon
Deng>Rip(Hate Deng but it is probably ture)
Salmons>Stuckey(Stuckey has a better future though)
Noah<CV31

And the rest, Bulls have better role players.

if ur gonna compare players, maybe you should use some decency and match the players according to positions. and i dont even know who ur starters/what position they play are so list them out.

Stuckey<Rose
Rip>your sg
Prince>your sf
C Vill>your pf
Wilcox<your center

Gordon>your whole team

raptors_516
07-20-2009, 01:32 AM
Actually I was comparing to teams like Washington(Miller and Foye), Raptors(Turkoglu),76ers(Brand back) and even if you compare the Bulls and Pistons players, it still doesn't matter.

Rose>Gordon
Deng>Rip(Hate Deng but it is probably ture)
Salmons>Stuckey(Stuckey has a better future though)
Noah<CV31

And the rest, Bulls have better role players.

Rip is better than Deng

artest_kobe
07-20-2009, 01:39 AM
celtics and suns

VIP1349
07-20-2009, 01:44 AM
Bulls will not improve but they will not get worse. Rose will step up and fill the void by Gordon but they will still be better.

Pistons will be a little better. AI was a bad influence on the team and thus hurt them. Will they be a top seed? No way. But I'd imagine that the Bulls or Pistons will land some where between 6-8 seed in the East.

But as for the question Houston is a easy one to answer, they lose Yao Ming and Ron Artest. However they'll have Ariza to build on, but they won't have a good season this year.

BlondeBomber41
07-20-2009, 01:45 AM
The Nuggets definently. I think they played as well as they could possibly be expected to play last year and they havent done anything to improve the team this offseason.

They sort of caught lightning in a bottle last year with the trade and the run they made, but they will fall back down to earth. They were the #2 seed last year, and now the Spurs and Mavs have made moves (with the Mavs still having moves to make) that will help them jump ahead of Denver.

VIP1349
07-20-2009, 01:48 AM
We added Ty Lawson and Arron Afflalo to the team. I think we are going to be fine. We have Melo going into his prime after busting out in the Playoffs, JR Smith has matured as a player, and Nene has slowly improved. I think we are fine ;)

Fool
07-20-2009, 01:56 AM
Houston comes to mind, for sure.

cali72888
07-20-2009, 02:10 AM
I believe that the Suns will take a huge step back.

The Rockets are a lock to struggle next season.

Jazz will be worse without boozer.

cali72888
07-20-2009, 02:14 AM
We added Ty Lawson and Arron Afflalo to the team. I think we are going to be fine. We have Melo going into his prime after busting out in the Playoffs, JR Smith has matured as a player, and Nene has slowly improved. I think we are fine ;)

IMO nuggets will only get better. They are going to be very very tough in the next couple years, and I wouldn't doubt it if they won a championship with the team they have. Anthony is the next best thing to Kobe and Labron (hate to admit that i cannot stand his cocky attitude).

Derick713
07-20-2009, 02:29 AM
Tough question. Any number of teams could take a step back. The Heat might take a step back. Teams in the East have upgraded while the Heat will depend on Wade to carry them to the playoffs. Sure the youth will develop, but if everything stands as is I can't see them making the playoffs.

ink
07-20-2009, 02:33 AM
I believe that the Suns will take a huge step back.


Actually I think with Gentry coaching for the whole season, they will be back to the way they were playing when they were running up big scores and winning.

JordansBulls
07-20-2009, 07:06 AM
uhh if u think of it this way.

last year
7th seed:Bulls -Lose their best player get nobody
8th seed:Pistons-Lose Dyess, A.I(good thing), Sheed. Obtain Wilcox, and two top free agents:the leading scorer of the bulls(best player) gordon and a "borderline all-star" CV who recieved little minutes as a Buck.

Pistons>Bulls

Bulls lost Gordon and gain Deng back so that offsets everything and we were much better once we made the trade for Salmons and Miller.

hockeypro68
07-20-2009, 07:17 AM
Lakers ain't repeatin

JayW_1023
07-20-2009, 07:19 AM
- I think the Magic will not be as good in the regular season next year, but they are better equipped for postseason ball this year however.
- The Suns will continue to struggle...unless Steve Nash feels really inspired and rejuvenated.
- The Jazz will overachieve by pure hustle and heart...but the loss of Boozer will still make it tough for them to make the postseason.

Pornstar86
07-20-2009, 08:05 AM
IMO nuggets will only get better. They are going to be very very tough in the next couple years, and I wouldn't doubt it if they won a championship with the team they have. Anthony is the next best thing to Kobe and Labron (hate to admit that i cannot stand his cocky attitude).

Melo is great, but your crazy if you think he's better than Wade...

VIP1349
07-20-2009, 09:18 AM
He more then likely wasn't really thinking about Dwayne Wade. Honestly it's Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Dwayne Wade, and then Carmelo Anthony.

I thought I'd say one team that I do think will do worse and that’s the 76ers as well. Unless they get a new PG which they might, but as of now they are worse.

I think the Utah Jazz will do worse unless they get something worth while back if they trade Boozer, if they don't trade him I'd expect the same season. I think New Orleans might be worse off, Paul can only carry a team so long. If Chandler gets hurt, they're done. If West gets hurt, they're done. And if Paul gets hurt, even the Kings will laugh at them. If they stay healthy but since it is Chandler I expect them to do worse.

S-Dot
07-20-2009, 10:34 AM
nets, rockets, sixers

JordansBulls
07-20-2009, 02:16 PM
- I think the Magic will not be as good in the regular season next year, but they are better equipped for postseason ball this year however.
- The Suns will continue to struggle...unless Steve Nash feels really inspired and rejuvenated.
- The Jazz will overachieve by pure hustle and heart...but the loss of Boozer will still make it tough for them to make the postseason.

So Orlando will have a worse record in the regular season this year?

Jamiecballer
07-20-2009, 02:21 PM
So Orlando will have a worse record in the regular season this year?

You weren't asking me but YES.

CELTICS4LYFE
07-20-2009, 02:28 PM
the bulls losing ben gordon was huge

mrblisterdundee
07-20-2009, 02:39 PM
The Bucks and Nets are going to take the biggest steps backward.

JWO35
07-20-2009, 02:44 PM
New Orleans Hornets

Tha Truth
07-20-2009, 02:45 PM
Its got to be the Rockets.

Yao out for the upcoming season.

And losing Artest.

Injury prone T-Mac.

Step back for sure.

MiamiHeat
07-20-2009, 02:47 PM
Ben Gordon is not that good, especially not for that contract. We're getting a healthy Deng back, a full season of Salmons/Miller, Hinrich will be healthy, further development of Noah, two nice new rookies and a full year under Rose and Vinny Del Negro's belt.

We'll be fine.

...oh, and we might get Boozer, but even without him, we'll be fine.

:laugh:

nice fantasy team you have in your sig :clap:

djeller1139
07-20-2009, 04:11 PM
Detroit, Chicago,Phoenix, Houston, New Orleans

iHolden
07-20-2009, 05:21 PM
I personally think the Shaq trade was as big as a gamble as when the suns traded for him. The cavs are either going to take a step forward (weird to say that for a team who was the no.1 team in the league last year) or that team will just crumble apart and Lebron will pack his bags out of town leaving the team desolate for the next decade. Every franchise Shaq was on, he set back for years when he left.

Thats a great Point about Shaq, I never thought about that... I am also part of the group that believes the Cavs will do significantly worse this year.

With age and injury playing a huge factor most of these, here is my list of teams to underacheive in the 09-10 season:

1. Lakers - Ok just hear me out here... I don't see the addition of Artest as a major contributing piece, it creates too many problems. I also believe that if it works out properly, this move could be deadly to the rest of the league. With proper chemistry and between the Lakers starting 5, I truly believe that they will take the chip this year with ease. They will still make it to the West Finals with Kobe leading the way. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THEY WILL REPEAT, TOO MANY POTENTIAL PROBLEMS.

2. Rockets - Obvious... I feel sorry for this team and its fans, I hope they can get out of this pit they fell in quickly.

3. Cavs - as I stated before, I believe the Cavs have the greatest potential to SUCK this year as compared to last year, simply because they did way better last year than they should have, which leaves them the most room to fall.

4. Spurs - To many health issues... Yes they are a great team at the beginning of the year but they will fade too much by the end to do any damage in the postseason.

I see the Nuggets stepping it up and being the last years version of the Cavs this upcoming season (meaning they will overachieve, be first in the west, and second in the league to the Magic, [as much as I hate the Magic]) however, they will fall in the second round to the lakers in 7 games

The Mavericks are my pick for the overachieving underdog of the year. I think they will finish third behind the Nuggets and Lakers and Make it to the Finals against the Magic. With Erick Dampier's contract set up the way it is, I believe they will strike it rich some time in the middle of the season with a huge difference making trade.

ko8e24
07-20-2009, 05:30 PM
knicks