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agoody117
07-17-2009, 01:14 PM
here is a cool survey.

no surprise with the yankees and red sox on top but its cool to look back and see all the way back to 1999

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/pubs/Harris_Poll_2009_07_13.pdf

looks like indians fans could be termed "bandwagon" hahaha

Giants-49ers-Ws
07-17-2009, 01:36 PM
didn't realize how popular the tigers are.

very surprised were behind them.

S.P.
07-17-2009, 01:42 PM
2,000 people surveyed, WOW! That research must have taken them most of the morning to complete.

S.P.
07-17-2009, 01:44 PM
1% of which think WAS will win the WS this year. This is obviously the most accurate poll in history.

Zep
07-17-2009, 01:47 PM
Is this where I tell everyone that my team can beat up there team?

sanfranfan1210
07-17-2009, 02:10 PM
That was interesting!

Ian.
07-17-2009, 02:45 PM
Mariners ten. More than the Mets.

I call BS.

Slaps
07-17-2009, 02:47 PM
Mariners ten. More than the Mets.

I call BS.2,000 people can't be wrong :D.

zambo4president
07-17-2009, 02:59 PM
The Nats are tied with the Angels and ahead of KC and Toronto. Wow thats bad. And the Padres at 20? I live in San Diego and nobody ****ing likes the Padres, nobody.

D-Will4Prez
07-17-2009, 03:07 PM
Woo! Everyone loves the Braves :D

johnnylee722
07-17-2009, 03:33 PM
Mariners ten. More than the Mets.

I call BS.

You got to remember that New York is split between Yankees and Mets fans. Washington is all for the Mariners.

Sportfan
07-17-2009, 03:44 PM
You got to remember that New York is split between Yankees and Mets fans. Washington is all for the Mariners.

New York is much bigger, plus they got New Jersey and Conneticut fighting over mets/yankees

Bozarkian
07-17-2009, 03:45 PM
I could put them in a better order myself
1 person is more accurate than 2000

haha, blue jays...
I'm canadian...and where I live, it's all boston/yanks/jays
no one cares about the other teams
but I guess this was an American survery

mnrlgry
07-17-2009, 04:06 PM
I don't think polling 2000 people will give you an honest idea of who is the most popular team in america, especially when the poll was east coast biased. And going back ten years doesn't really tell you how popular your team is right now

Here's Neilsen TV ratings halfway through the season: (they only released the top ten)



1 Boston Red Sox 9.5
2 St. Louis Cardinals 7.4
3 Milwaukee Brewers 7.1
4 Minnesota Twins 6.4
5 Philadelphia Phillies 6.2
6 Detroit Tigers 6.0
7 Seattle Mariners 5.7
8 Chicago Cubs 5.2
9 New York Yankees 4.8
10 Cincinnati Reds 4.5

Ian.
07-17-2009, 04:17 PM
You got to remember that New York is split between Yankees and Mets fans. Washington is all for the Mariners.

Come to a Mariners vs. Red Sox game and say that.


1 Boston Red Sox 9.5
2 St. Louis Cardinals 7.4
3 Milwaukee Brewers 7.1
4 Minnesota Twins 6.4
5 Philadelphia Phillies 6.2
6 Detroit Tigers 6.0
7 Seattle Mariners 5.7
8 Chicago Cubs 5.2
9 New York Yankees 4.8
10 Cincinnati Reds 4.5

:laugh2:

cheerio
07-17-2009, 05:09 PM
6th

Kinsm
07-17-2009, 05:58 PM
"Harris poll avoids using words like margin of error"


In other words the true margin of error was plus/minus 95% because they didn't poll enough people.

Public Enemy #1
07-17-2009, 06:08 PM
Ay, I'm happy... Giants are in the top ten.

Ripper Gein
07-17-2009, 06:09 PM
DODGERS ****en Rule...

Pharoe18
07-17-2009, 06:24 PM
I love my Marlins..but how are they more popular than the Angels or Blue Jays???

Ian.
07-17-2009, 06:35 PM
I love my Marlins..but how are they more popular than the Angels or Blue Jays???

LA fans like the Dodgers and Canada likes hockey.

S.P.
07-17-2009, 06:37 PM
How about the Pirates, they were the 18th most popular team in 03, then 9th & 8th in 04 & 05 before falling to 21 in 06. :rolleyes:

flyers1618
07-17-2009, 08:29 PM
I love the o's but how were they in the top ten a couple years back?

Tragedy
07-17-2009, 08:52 PM
2,000 people surveyed, WOW! That research must have taken them most of the morning to complete.
:laugh:

carson005
07-17-2009, 10:43 PM
A poll of Americans says the Blue Jays are the least popular team? No way?!

CUBDOM4life
07-17-2009, 11:41 PM
How in the name of all that is holy are the ****ing Braves 2nd? :confused: they were ranked 14th in home attendance last year... I remember watching the cubs play at Turner last year... You could hear a pin drop. BS

DewsSox79
07-18-2009, 12:08 AM
who cares who is popular? it is about winning a championship.

kmoneyjuice
07-18-2009, 01:13 AM
2,000 people can't be wrong :D.

In statistical analysis if you poll 3,237 people with an accurate representation of all statisticall variables you can be 95% accurate, with only outliers unaccounted for.

HuRRiCaNeS324
07-18-2009, 03:08 AM
If this had more then 2000 people this could be a very interesting survey. But it is 2000 so it doesn't really say much.

At least i can say us marlins fans are not bandwagon hoppers, even though they haven't had anything to hop on yet lol. But when we won the WS we only jumped a couple of places....wierd :eyebrow:.

CaleX(RR)MIA™
07-18-2009, 03:25 AM
what number did the Marlins rank? (page wont open for me)

Hawkize31
07-18-2009, 03:26 AM
Hmm, clearly very few PSD followers have taken a basic statistics course. 2000 people (assuming they are taken randomly) is more than enough to be an accurate survey. A survey of 2000 people will be within a 2% margin of error, meaning it is very accurate. For the technical explanation: the results reported would be within 2% of the actual result 95% of the time. So when it says 21% of people surveyed think the Red Sox will win the World Series, that means there is a 95% chance that the actual percentage falls in between 19 and 23%. Again, that is for a RANDOM survey. Fyi, almost no political survey or public polling will be more than 2000 people.

That being said, this wasn't exactly random, so it is less accurate, but some people seem to be under the impression that a survey of this size is a joke, when actually, it can be very representative of the whole population.

Hawkize31
07-18-2009, 03:26 AM
what number did the Marlins rank? (page wont open for me)

25th for the 2nd straight year.

Matt-the-great
07-18-2009, 03:36 AM
********...no Canadians are even polled

brandonwarne52
07-18-2009, 03:43 AM
Hmm, clearly very few PSD followers have taken a basic statistics course. 2000 people (assuming they are taken randomly) is more than enough to be an accurate survey. A survey of 2000 people will be within a 2% margin of error, meaning it is very accurate. For the technical explanation: the results reported would be within 2% of the actual result 95% of the time. So when it says 21% of people surveyed think the Red Sox will win the World Series, that means there is a 95% chance that the actual percentage falls in between 19 and 23%. Again, that is for a RANDOM survey. Fyi, almost no political survey or public polling will be more than 2000 people.

That being said, this wasn't exactly random, so it is less accurate, but some people seem to be under the impression that a survey of this size is a joke, when actually, it can be very representative of the whole population.

Basically what I was going to say, but in a much better manner.

BTW, the Twins are super popular in Minnesota, the Dakotas, Iowa, and small parts of Wisconsin. I'm not surprised at all to see them with such a good rating.

LAFord
07-18-2009, 05:46 AM
The Dodgers tied for 4th with the Cubs suprised me.

LOL, at the Angels 27th. Only 1% pick them to win the WS! That's what they get using our city's name! :p

goldglove212
07-18-2009, 06:09 AM
2,000 people surveyed, WOW! That research must have taken them most of the morning to complete.

:laugh2: that was a good one

degnor
07-18-2009, 12:12 PM
interesting, but the small sample size leads me to believe it is totally useless

degnor
07-18-2009, 12:13 PM
********...no Canadians are even polled

what's a canadian?

redbird89
07-18-2009, 02:55 PM
This Harris Poll was conducted online within the United States between June 8 and 15, 2009 among 2,177 adults, of whom 891 follow baseball.

So, only 900 are actually baseball fans, and 9 of them thought the Nationals would win the World Series.

I don't put a lot of stock in this.

brandonwarne52
07-18-2009, 03:09 PM
interesting, but the small sample size leads me to believe it is totally useless

Except that it isn't a small sample size.....read Hawkize's post.

brandonwarne52
07-18-2009, 03:11 PM
So, only 900 are actually baseball fans, and 9 of them thought the Nationals would win the World Series.

I don't put a lot of stock in this.

.....so that would make them no less ******** than the average MLB forum poster.

slaker619
07-18-2009, 03:17 PM
Didnt Know The Braves WHere Tht Popular

brandonwarne52
07-18-2009, 03:18 PM
....helps to be televised nationally, I'm sure.

degnor
07-19-2009, 05:28 PM
Except that it isn't a small sample size.....read Hawkize's post.

Hawkize's post is exactly why i hated statistics in college. Call me ignorant, sure, but I find statistics to be among the most imprecise of "sciences". There are much wiser people than I who will swear by it, but I clearly remember all that T-Test stuff being utter ********. My opinion, and I realize its an unpopular one. To me, asking 2,000 random people about which of 30 teams is their favorite is useless. The stuff that gives you two choices (are you male or female? or do you follow baseball?) are much more reliable. Judging popularity of that many possible teams would require a bigger sample size.

degnor
07-19-2009, 05:29 PM
....helps to be televised nationally, I'm sure.

Not anymore though, right?

Luca68
07-19-2009, 05:57 PM
wow jayss well done ......least popular team lol
toronto gets no respect

degnor
07-19-2009, 06:54 PM
wow jayss well done ......least popular team lol
toronto gets no respect

That's another thing that leads me to believe this study is flawed. Not saying I would expect the Jays to be high, but certainly not last.

sofargone
07-19-2009, 09:43 PM
no love for the angels

PhillyBoomerang
07-19-2009, 10:18 PM
nobody likes Toronto.. i thought Washington would be last, how can they fans lol..

Gibby
07-19-2009, 10:46 PM
i am suprised blue jays were even 28th in 1999, considering its an american survey. its important to note that most of the people didnt follow baseball, so its predictable they would pick hometown team.