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nyyfan4life
07-05-2009, 09:15 AM
Best RS prospect (arguably) v. best Yankee prospect (arguably).

1B Lars Anderson (Red Sox)

2008 (Age-20): Hi-A + AA: .317 / .417 / .517 / .934 18 HR 80 RBI in 439 AB's
2009 (Age-21): AA: .262 / .357 / .408 / .765 8 HR 39 RBI in 267 AB's

C Jesus Montero (Yankees)

2008 (Age-18): Low-A: .326 / .376 / .491 / .867 17 HR 87 RBI in 525 AB's
2009 (Age-19): Hi-A + AA: .347 / .404 / .574 / .978 13 HR 52 RBI in 265 AB's

Rylinkus
07-05-2009, 09:45 AM
Assuming Montero can stick at catcher, (I have doubts), he should have a slight edge as it's harder to find a great hitting catcher.

Sportfan
07-05-2009, 12:13 PM
Montero is having the better season this year, but if Lar hadnt struggled so much in April and May it wouldve been him

Joba Rules!!
07-05-2009, 12:29 PM
Montero is having the better season this year, but if Lar hadnt struggled so much in April and May it wouldve been him

Why is that? Montero had better numbers than Anderson in June too.

Sportfan
07-05-2009, 04:18 PM
i meant this season as a whole not just april

jetsfan89
07-05-2009, 06:28 PM
all things considered equal probably montero cause he's a catcher.

-Lavigne43-
07-05-2009, 07:19 PM
Well from what I have heard Montero can't play defense at all while Lars is average defensively. Unfortunately we can't get anyt decent defensive statistics to back this up. If this is the case I would rather have Lars as Montero is projected more as a DH from what I have heard

-Lavigne43-
07-05-2009, 07:22 PM
Montero is having the better season this year, but if Lar hadnt struggled so much in April and May it wouldve been him

He did not struggle that much in April. It was mostly May where he was terrible and reportedly was dealing with a back injury

zzConflict
07-05-2009, 07:51 PM
Well from what I have heard Montero can't play defense at all while Lars is average defensively. Unfortunately we can't get anyt decent defensive statistics to back this up. If this is the case I would rather have Lars as Montero is projected more as a DH from what I have heard
We have Sean Smith's TotalZone ratings, which over the past two seasons have Lars Anderson as being worth -20 runs in the field. That's obviously brutal and would suggest that the move to DH may be in his future.

The Dream
07-23-2009, 02:09 AM
i meant this season as a whole not just april

You can't just admit The Jesus is better? You have to say that of course. If you had to choose Jesus or Lars in your system you'd choose Jesus in a heartbeat. I can just tell.

Wake's Fastball
07-23-2009, 10:15 AM
Montero looks unbelievable. If he's able to keep these past couple years going, then yeah, he's the better prospect.

GrkGawdofWalkz
07-23-2009, 03:02 PM
Montero is a superb professional hitter. He's going to be a Victor Martinez type DH guy. I like his ability at the plate over Lars Anderson. Not knocking Lars in any case, but Montero is the better prospect. I'm not upset having Anderson one moment though.

-Lavigne43-
07-23-2009, 07:08 PM
We have Sean Smith's TotalZone ratings, which over the past two seasons have Lars Anderson as being worth -20 runs in the field. That's obviously brutal and would suggest that the move to DH may be in his future.

I don't know how reliable that is but if that's the case than Montero wins. He is clearly the better offensive player at this point. The only reason I would rather have Lars is if the scouting reports I have seen were true which said he was an average defensive player while Montero was a future DH

papipapsmanny
07-23-2009, 09:28 PM
it really depends. Lars had better numbers in 08 at higher levels than montero in 08. Then again montero is younger

I dunno I like Lars and so far he has had much better obp ability or more plate discipline

both are good, but there is no way montero stays at C

its close anderson has been better or just as good every year except this year, and their OPS are not too far off, if you take away anderson's struggles but that is part of the growing process i guess

#27in2007
07-24-2009, 12:30 PM
oh boy... i have a feeling this comparison is going to be the start of world war III.... can we agree both are ridiculous, before any nuclear bombs are launched in this discussion...

Cano24
07-29-2009, 01:35 AM
Montero and it is not even close...the kid is 19 years old tearing it up in AA

quiksilver2491
07-29-2009, 11:42 AM
Montero and it is not even close...the kid is 19 years old tearing it up in AA

Not even close? No offense, but a statement like that just screams homer.

This year Montero is definitely outperforming Anderson, no arguments there. However your using a mere 164 plate appearances as your evidence of that?

Two can easily play at that game.

Lars Anderson at AA Portland in 2008 (163 at bats)
wOBA: .423
RV600: 42.5

Jesus Montero at AA Trenton in 2009 ( 164 at bats)
wOBA: .405
RV600: 37.0

So I'm assuming this makes Lars Anderson the better of the two players? Comparing small sample sizes is lame.

J-Loco
07-29-2009, 02:44 PM
it really depends. Lars had better numbers in 08 at higher levels than montero in 08. Then again montero is younger

I dunno I like Lars and so far he has had much better obp ability or more plate discipline

both are good, but there is no way montero stays at C

its close anderson has been better or just as good every year except this year, and their OPS are not too far off, if you take away anderson's struggles but that is part of the growing process i guess

Well if you take away A-Rod's struggles he would be hitting .600 this year. That statement is pointless. :p

J-Loco
07-29-2009, 02:46 PM
Not even close? No offense, but a statement like that just screams homer.

This year Montero is definitely outperforming Anderson, no arguments there. However your using a mere 164 plate appearances as your evidence of that?

Two can easily play at that game.

Lars Anderson at AA Portland in 2008 (163 at bats)
wOBA: .423
RV600: 42.5

Jesus Montero at AA Trenton in 2009 ( 164 at bats)
wOBA: 405
RV600: 37.0

So I'm assuming this makes Lars Anderson the better of the two players? Comparing small sample sizes is lame.

The year age difference helps Lars so advantage Montero.

J-Loco
07-29-2009, 02:46 PM
The year age difference helps Lars so advantage Montero.

Or does it? IDK you tell me. LOL

1917
07-29-2009, 03:01 PM
Best RS prospect (arguably) v. best Yankee prospect (arguably).

1B Lars Anderson (Red Sox)

2008 (Age-20): Hi-A + AA: .317 / .417 / .517 / .934 18 HR 80 RBI in 439 AB's
2009 (Age-21): AA: .262 / .357 / .408 / .765 8 HR 39 RBI in 267 AB's

C Jesus Montero (Yankees)

2008 (Age-18): Low-A: .326 / .376 / .491 / .867 17 HR 87 RBI in 525 AB's
2009 (Age-19): Hi-A + AA: .347 / .404 / .574 / .978 13 HR 52 RBI in 265 AB's

Come on, you know this isn't much of a comparison right now. Montero's putting up better numbers and he's 2 years younger. Looks like someone was fishing for compliments.

Webslinger
07-29-2009, 03:24 PM
Right now you have to go with Montero. He's progressed much faster as a hitter playing a tougher position. He's not as polished as Anderson but he appears to have more talent.

NYY NYJ NYK
07-29-2009, 03:58 PM
Well according to this season. I would take Montero over Lars.

nyyfan4life
12-03-2010, 01:27 AM
I remember when this was close...

bagwell368
12-03-2010, 01:31 AM
Lars isn't even in the Sox farm system top 10 anymore. Time for this thread to back to the mothballs again.

nyyfan4life
12-03-2010, 01:34 AM
This thread should be more about Lars than Jesus now. What happened to that guy? I remember when the Sox posters were hyping him up like crazy.

Super.
12-03-2010, 01:52 AM
Fell off the face of the earth. It happens.

TheHughesUnit
12-03-2010, 10:01 AM
This is like asking Mo or Scott athison... really people I mean come on.

papipapsmanny
12-03-2010, 01:51 PM
This thread should be more about Lars than Jesus now. What happened to that guy? I remember when the Sox posters were hyping him up like crazy.

its not all bad yet, remember he did just turn 23 and hit the MLB level (mostly by default)

This year he raped AA and was quickly moved up to AAA, first half was poop, then his second half was really good, complete opposite of the first half.

So it seems he has to make league adjustments when he jumps which only seems natural

This year is make or break for him, no getting around that.

TheHughesUnit
12-03-2010, 03:06 PM
This thread should be more about Lars than Jesus now. What happened to that guy? I remember when the Sox posters were hyping him up like crazy.

Jim Callis hyped him up, he put up monster numbers true but he did so in lancaster which is very easy to put up good numbers hitting wise. Remember when Dan Bard was a bust and Anderson was a beast? Yep...

Gunzito22
12-03-2010, 03:16 PM
well, I have seen both of them play in person over the past two seasons @ AA: and BOTH of them put on a show on thier respective days (I live near Manchester NH where the Blue Jays AA team plays).

That said, Jesus 'plays' a premium position (while not great) and is a year younger. So defense being equally so-so to inferior, I take Montero as the better 'prospect'.