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Dragonz131
07-01-2004, 02:18 PM
Kwame Brown

biggest bust that i have no comment

Coheed
07-01-2004, 02:34 PM
i'll give Kwame a break......he's still only 22

Michael Olowokandi.....now thats the biggest bust!!!
that 7 foot turd was drafted in 1998 & has had about 6 seasons to prove himself. he's already 29 so it aint like he's about to blossom or anything.

look at his career numbers:
9.5 PPG, 7.7 RPG, 43.3 pct shooting, 1.6 blk, & 2.1 turnovers.....

Kwame still has a few years to be considered the "biggest" bust. like i said he's only 22 & his career numbers are:
7.9 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 45.4 pct shooting, 0.8 blk, & 1.4 turnovers.....

neither have great numbers, but Olowokandi has been suckin' for a longer period of time.

metsfreak
07-01-2004, 02:48 PM
While Kwame Brown has not exactly been Kevin Garnett you have to remember that it takes high school kids a while to develop. Jermaine O'Neal didn't do much his first few years in the league. As for biggest bust in the draft you must be young cause he's not close to the Sam Bowie's and Joe Barry Carroll's or Pervis Ellison's in years past. Michael Olawokandi is a bigger bust than Kwame if ya ask me.

Coheed
07-01-2004, 02:56 PM
While Kwame Brown has not exactly been Kevin Garnett you have to remember that it takes high school kids a while to develop. Jermaine O'Neal didn't do much his first few years in the league. As for biggest bust in the draft you must be young cause he's not close to the Sam Bowie's and Joe Barry Carroll's or Pervis Ellison's in years past. Michael Olawokandi is a bigger bust than Kwame if ya ask me.


wasnt Bowie picked ahead of Jordan?........

yea, that was a monster of a mistake!!!.......lol

IndiansFan337
07-02-2004, 07:10 PM
wasnt Bowie picked ahead of Jordan?........

yea, that was a monster of a mistake!!!.......lol
I think Bowie was slowed by injuries so at least he has an excuse. What about Joe Smith.

ccugrad1
07-02-2004, 07:34 PM
Hindsight is always 20/20. I mean we could sit here all day and criticize Portland for taking Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan, simply because Bowie didn't pan out and Jordan won 6 NBA titles. However, Portland at the time needed a big man. So at the time, it did not look like a bad pick necessarily.

IndiansFan337
07-02-2004, 08:30 PM
Hindsight is always 20/20. I mean we could sit here all day and criticize Portland for taking Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan, simply because Bowie didn't pan out and Jordan won 6 NBA titles. However, Portland at the time needed a big man. So at the time, it did not look like a bad pick necessarily.
You're right, but nowadays teams are taking whoever has the most potential, not whoever fills their biggest need. The Cavs & Raptors are 2 teams who in this draft filled their biggest needs rather than going with the most potential in the top 10. So it's easier to criticize recent picks but it's also not right because they still could pan out. A good example is the Clippers picking Melvin Ely & Chris Wilcox 2 or 3 years ago right after trading for Elton Brand. Now why would they do that? I don't think it was a good decision, they should have tried to fill another need with at least one of those picks. Those 2 had the most upside but now they haven't been able to get the playing time because they're still stuck behind Brand.

ccugrad1
07-02-2004, 09:11 PM
You're right, but nowadays teams are taking whoever has the most potential, not whoever fills their biggest need. The Cavs & Raptors are 2 teams who in this draft filled their biggest needs rather than going with the most potential in the top 10. So it's easier to criticize recent picks but it's also not right because they still could pan out. A good example is the Clippers picking Melvin Ely & Chris Wilcox 2 or 3 years ago right after trading for Elton Brand. Now why would they do that? I don't think it was a good decision, they should have tried to fill another need with at least one of those picks. Those 2 had the most upside but now they haven't been able to get the playing time because they're still stuck behind Brand.

And IndiansFan, that is why coaches and GM's get fired. If you look at this past NBA Draft, they could have re-named it the "Potential" Draft. I hate potential because to me, potential=future. People should tell these coaches and GM's and owners that we are in the present, NOT the 4 years down the road!

IndiansFan337
07-04-2004, 05:30 PM
And IndiansFan, that is why coaches and GM's get fired. If you look at this past NBA Draft, they could have re-named it the "Potential" Draft. I hate potential because to me, potential=future. People should tell these coaches and GM's and owners that we are in the present, NOT the 4 years down the road!
Yeah I know man. That's pretty much how I feel too. I can agree with a few of the high schoolers getting picked, like LA picking Livingston & Atlanta taking Josh Smith(he's from Atlanta). LA probably would have bene better off with Devin Harris but Livingston wasn't a horrible pick. Telfair going at 13 is crazy, especially when Jameer Nelson was available. At worst Nelson will be like Darrell Armstrong, IMO. All I'm gonna say about Telfair is that he's a good bet to show everyone why no high school PG had ever gone straight from high school to the NBA.I doubt any GM's will get fired over this draft because if you look at who had the worst draft it was probably Toronto, who just hired a new GM. A lot of teams had solid picks like Cleveland, Dallas, Orlando, Charlotte, Chicago, Boston & Miami.

steelcityroller
07-06-2004, 12:28 PM
Its really frustrating when teams that are awful pick high schoolers and really young guys knowing that their team probably won't get any better for a couple of years. That pisses fans off IMO.

Raps18-19 Champ
02-21-2009, 05:33 PM
Kwame is the biggest bust

phlp_bj
02-21-2009, 05:34 PM
darko, tshitsavilli

Free Throw
02-21-2009, 05:35 PM
Darko Miličić before Anthony, Bosh, and Wade.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_NBA_Draft

Kakaroach
02-21-2009, 05:36 PM
Joe Smith and Kwame Brown.

Frrrrank!!!
02-21-2009, 05:38 PM
wtf with the thread from 1902?

abe_froman
02-21-2009, 05:40 PM
Hindsight is always 20/20. I mean we could sit here all day and criticize Portland for taking Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan, simply because Bowie didn't pan out and Jordan won 6 NBA titles. However, Portland at the time needed a big man. So at the time, it did not look like a bad pick necessarily.

to true and if anyone remermbers, chicago was hoping bowie would fall to them,that the gm at the time even felt the pressure from fans that he had to write an apology letter to the citizens of chicago for drafting jordan and not a big man

phils07
02-21-2009, 05:41 PM
i'll give Kwame a break......he's still only 22


Kwame still has a few years to be considered the "biggest" bust. like i said he's only 22 & his career numbers are:
7.9 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 45.4 pct shooting, 0.8 blk, & 1.4 turnovers.....

neither have great numbers, but Olowokandi has been suckin' for a longer period of time.


KWAME is 26! theyre both horrendous. at this point, hes a big body that plays ok defense.

IRUAM #21
02-21-2009, 05:42 PM
Why did you bump this ????????

Free Throw
02-21-2009, 05:59 PM
Wow, he bumped it from '04, didn't even notice.

Raps18-19 Champ
02-21-2009, 06:00 PM
KWAME is 26! theyre both horrendous. at this point, hes a big body that plays ok defense.

Lol didn't you notice this was from 04

SF25
02-21-2009, 06:07 PM
Kwame Brown imo. Sure he's still young but he's not looking good at the moment.

Bowie was actually the right pick at the time, he was a better in college than Jordan was. What happened to Bowie is he was over played and his body broke down. Still a huge bust though.

still1ballin
02-21-2009, 06:08 PM
Adam Morrison

SF25
02-21-2009, 06:13 PM
Adam Morrison

Yeah he's a big one too. Although he's only played 2 seasons and coming off knee surgery this year so he could still turn it around.

albertc86
02-21-2009, 06:18 PM
In Kwame's defense, it was Jordan's fault. There was never any hype around Kwame, so Jordan demonstrated showed poor judgment. So yes, Kwame sucks, but his defense is solid. This wouldn't even be a discussion had he been drafted later.

luckynumber_752
02-21-2009, 06:58 PM
Adam Morrison was a huge bust. I don't think he can really turn it around either. The fact is that the only thing Morrison could amount to if he did turn it around, is a good pure shooter. You can't compare a good pure shooter to a guy like Brandon Roy, who got picked later. Roy is an all around great player.

GunFactor187
02-21-2009, 07:07 PM
LeBron James is by far the biggest bust in NBA history.

IRUAM #21
02-21-2009, 07:13 PM
^ Agreed

greg_ory_2005
02-21-2009, 07:35 PM
Who bumps a thread from 5 years ago? :pity:

GunFactor187
02-21-2009, 07:38 PM
Who bumps a thread from 5 years ago? :pity:

Only jabronis, who don't know their role and those who don't shut their mouths, do you know what The Rock is cookin'.

madiaz3
02-21-2009, 07:43 PM
Lol didn't you notice this was from 04

you're the one who bumped it! for what reason no one knows

Raps18-19 Champ
02-21-2009, 08:40 PM
you're the one who bumped it! for what reason no one knows

Lol I was telling the guy that this was from 04.

And I just bumped it for fun. And It shows that Kwame is still the biggest bust to this day and no one has changed their opinion.

Kakaroach
02-21-2009, 08:45 PM
I just realized Michael Jordan sucks at drafting players. Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison.

KB24PG16
02-21-2009, 08:45 PM
kwame and morrison the lakers traded for both i dont know y

DownInHouston
02-21-2009, 08:49 PM
Jay Williams
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willija03.html

Even tho he did kind of have a good excuse :) But still

MVMarauder
02-21-2009, 09:01 PM
Hindsight is always 20/20. I mean we could sit here all day and criticize Portland for taking Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan, simply because Bowie didn't pan out and Jordan won 6 NBA titles. However, Portland at the time needed a big man. So at the time, it did not look like a bad pick necessarily.

omg you sound just like my friend.

Nets fan 93
02-21-2009, 09:29 PM
umm...
Ed O'Bannon (http://www.netsdaily.com/?p=7323)

BranWingss
02-21-2009, 09:55 PM
WTF ITS OBVIOUSLY DARKO MILACHECK. This guy was picked over Carmelo,Wade & Bosh.

nd4T.O.
02-21-2009, 09:57 PM
1.Kwame 2.Darko....morrison maybe hes really only in his 2nd season after a major injury last year so morrison is to be determined

Don Starks
02-21-2009, 10:01 PM
what about eddie curry. huge bust in my opinion. he was 4th in the 2001 draft.

clutchski
02-21-2009, 10:01 PM
It's likely Kwame...but to be picked around all those other stars..Milicic appears much worse. He might make a decent career for himself though...he scored 15 points 10 rebounds the other night for the Grizz. Morrison could be yeah but he has had a major injury..so that could almost fully skew his potential and make him seem like an awful bust if he never makes an impact in the league.

clutchski
02-21-2009, 10:03 PM
what about eddie curry. huge bust in my opinion. he was 4th in the 2001 draft.

True man..eddie is in a tough position because he's on such a run-and-gun team under MD. What's happened to him this season? Has he even played?

Missing56&33
02-21-2009, 10:05 PM
the candy man

Raps18-19 Champ
02-21-2009, 10:21 PM
Curry isn't a bust.

He was an All-star(I'm pretty sure). He just injured and has alot of things going wrong for him lately.

what54!?
02-21-2009, 10:22 PM
Mr. Candyman takes the cake. I'd rather have kwame than him

Raps18-19 Champ
02-21-2009, 10:24 PM
Mr. Candyman takes the cake. I'd rather have kwame than him

Who's that?

what54!?
02-21-2009, 10:29 PM
Who's that?Michael Olowokandi

GunFactor187
02-21-2009, 10:49 PM
Michael Olowokandi

I think Raps was being sarcastic there.

bal_ravens
02-21-2009, 10:59 PM
I feel bad for Jordan drafting. Lol. Its either...you look like a genius or you look like an idiot. If the Wizards didn't select Kwame Brown, the next team sure would have... I really can't blame him for that pick. Kwame had a TON of potential coming out of High School. As for Morrison... that was just a ******** pick.

Raps18-19 Champ
02-21-2009, 11:19 PM
I think Raps was being sarcastic there.

I wasn't.

He said candyman but I realised after that it was Kandi man

madiaz3
02-21-2009, 11:22 PM
Curry isn't a bust.

He was an All-star(I'm pretty sure). He just injured and has alot of things going wrong for him lately.

nah but in 06-07 he was borderline avging 20 ppg and leading the league in fg% and pts in the pt & ft attempted

Raps18-19 Champ
02-21-2009, 11:23 PM
nah but in 06-07 he was borderline avging 20 ppg and leading the league in fg% and pts in the pt & ft attempted

I know thats why he isn't a bust

madiaz3
02-21-2009, 11:23 PM
True man..eddie is in a tough position because he's on such a run-and-gun team under MD. What's happened to him this season? Has he even played?

He's suffered from a lot of RL issues, sexual harassment suit from an ex-con limo driver but even more tragically his ex-gf being murdered along with his daugher. all of that + struggling weight issues is making it hard for him to make a return...

homestarunner93
02-22-2009, 02:57 AM
Adam Morrison.

LakerzDQ
02-22-2009, 12:06 PM
I didn't know this forum was 5 years old.

rhymeratic
02-22-2009, 12:36 PM
Nikolai Tskitishvilli

mavwar53
02-22-2009, 01:21 PM
No way Joe smith is, he hasn't been the greatest player but he is a quality player. If youre going to even mention his name you have to put bradley in there.

Leafsleeve
02-22-2009, 01:40 PM
Darko, Olowkandi, Kwame, Sam Bowie, aqnd possibly Greg Oden. I love Greg Oden but this dude is scaring me.

beau_boy04
02-22-2009, 02:45 PM
2 names come to mind - K Brown and M Olowakandi

Raps18-19 Champ
02-22-2009, 06:00 PM
Chris Washburn.

Atleast guys like Darko, Kandi and Smith have decent careers. This guy sucks so bad

IversonIsKrazy
02-22-2009, 06:16 PM
Darko before Melo, Bosh, Wade, TJ and others.
Sam bowie over mJ.
Kwame.

PhillyForLife90
02-22-2009, 06:27 PM
I've always kinda liked Kwame. The guy's a pretty good defender. His offensive game still needs some polishing, and he's 26 years old so he's still somewhat young. The problem is he doesn't get any minutes in Detroit because they have Sheed, Maxiell, Johnson, and Mcdyess getting the majority of the mins. But he should go to a team where they NEED a C or PF. I still think he can break out, but as far as biggest busts go, I'd say Olowakandi.

hynesy02
02-22-2009, 06:36 PM
R.I.P. len bias :( has to be the biggest bust in NBA history

Nate David+ Co.
02-22-2009, 06:50 PM
Hindsight is always 20/20. I mean we could sit here all day and criticize Portland for taking Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan, simply because Bowie didn't pan out and Jordan won 6 NBA titles. However, Portland at the time needed a big man. So at the time, it did not look like a bad pick necessarily.

Sounds like the oden draft dosen't it.....:eyebrow:...... thats funny, portland should have looked at there history. Well i cant really talk, the knicks did the same thing ( gallo=weis)