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brownies23
06-23-2009, 07:29 PM
The Washington Wizards have acquired Minnesota Timberwolves guards Randy Foye(notes) and Mike Miller(notes) for Etan Thomas(notes), Oleksiy Pecherov(notes) and Darius Songaila and the fifth pick in Thursday’s NBA draft, a league executive with knowledge of the deal told Yahoo! Sports

This is breaking news from yahoo sports reporter Adrian Wojnarowski

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ar618mrvjOWoQ9.xr_edXSU5nYcB?slug=aw-wasmintrade062309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Ryan328
06-23-2009, 07:31 PM
So the Wolves have the 5th and 6th picks now. I think they go PG & SG

droalex
06-23-2009, 07:31 PM
awesome.

arkanian215
06-23-2009, 07:32 PM
wow this is really going to shake things up!. no doubt minni is going for a new age pg. heck they might throw thabeet in next to al jefferson. then again they could go sg of the future with harden. im glad the draft is really shaking up.

arkanian215
06-23-2009, 07:33 PM
So the Wolves have the 5th and 6th picks now. I think they go PG & SG

if sac doesnt take rubio, i think the wolves will.

Mane
06-23-2009, 07:33 PM
Damn. Good trade for the Wolves.

Not sure how i feel about it as a Wizards fan.

STAT32
06-23-2009, 07:34 PM
What a crappy trade for Washington. They could have gotten someone better than Foye for that pick.

arkanian215
06-23-2009, 07:34 PM
Damn. Good trade for the Wolves.

Not sure how i feel about it as a Wizards fan.

you got a decent guy who might be able to play sg next year instead of the perennial dud.

Mane
06-23-2009, 07:35 PM
you got a decent guy who might be able to play sg next year instead of the perennial dud.

Yeah, but i just don't know. I feel like we need to unload a few guards..

We have: Arenas, Stevenson, Young, Crittenton, James, Miller, and Foye..

I just think we need to get rid of Stevenson and James.

arkanian215
06-23-2009, 07:37 PM
What a crappy trade for Washington. They could have gotten someone better than Foye for that pick.

wiz gave up end of the bench role players (maybe except thomas) and the 5th pick in a weak draft to get once a lottery player and a guy who can give you 15 5 3 a game. I hear he shoots the three pretty well.

Chronz
06-23-2009, 07:37 PM
Foye was starting to look good once they stopped asking him to play the point. Not sure I agree with this trade for the Wolves.

brownies23
06-23-2009, 07:37 PM
I think it is a good trade for both.I mean Minnesota can go out and grab a possible starting pg and sg of the future, and Washing adds depth to their pg and sg positions.

VCaintdead17
06-23-2009, 07:37 PM
I dig it for both sides.

IndyRealist
06-23-2009, 07:38 PM
Foye is Arenas insurance? And they got more shooting in Mike Miller.

arkanian215
06-23-2009, 07:39 PM
Yeah, but i just don't know. I feel like we need to unload a few guards..

We have: Arenas, Stevenson, Young, Crittenton, James, Miller, and Foye..

I just think we need to get rid of Stevenson and James.

i think crittenton wont work out for you. james is a decent role player. but it should be arenas, foye. miller, stevenson/young (depending on how young develops). im not sure if they'll use miller as their 2 or make him the first man off the bench. it looks like he could be good in a 6th man role.

Mane
06-23-2009, 07:39 PM
I think Songalia could definitely be a solid role player in Minny. He played great for us this last season.. as for Etan and Oleksiy.. umm have fun with them?

I really don't think there was a pick Washington could make without reaching.

Hawkeye15
06-23-2009, 07:40 PM
I think #5, and #18 go to Memphis for #2.

JWO35
06-23-2009, 07:40 PM
I wanted the Pistons to get the 5th overall pick :cry:
(Good trade for both sides)

J$mo0th_3o5
06-23-2009, 07:41 PM
Man I wanted the HEAT to get Miller:mad:

arkanian215
06-23-2009, 07:42 PM
washington drops a ton in salaries (songalia has an option for next year and i think he'll use it). both sides matched salaries. foye is up for a qualifying offer next year. both miller and thomas come off the books next summer. pecherov was a rookie last year.

mikedesi1004
06-23-2009, 07:42 PM
i like the trade for both sides

JordansBulls
06-23-2009, 07:43 PM
The Washington Wizards have acquired Minnesota Timberwolves guards Randy Foye(notes) and Mike Miller(notes) for Etan Thomas(notes), Oleksiy Pecherov(notes) and Darius Songaila and the fifth pick in Thursday’s NBA draft, a league executive with knowledge of the deal told Yahoo! Sports

This is breaking news from yahoo sports reporter Adrian Wojnarowski

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ar618mrvjOWoQ9.xr_edXSU5nYcB?slug=aw-wasmintrade062309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Wizards are doing this because they are going to get Amare. They got Mike Miller so that he can play SF so that they can trade Butler.

arkanian215
06-23-2009, 07:43 PM
I think Songalia could definitely be a solid role player in Minny. He played great for us this last season.. as for Etan and Oleksiy.. umm have fun with them?

I really don't think there was a pick Washington could make without reaching.

id say pecherov is ahead of thomas. i dont think minny wants to waste anytime with thomas. they can develop their young bigs more without him in the way. same with songalia. difference is that songalia might stay around a year more than thomas.

NYK|NYY
06-23-2009, 07:44 PM
God damn

SeoulBeatz
06-23-2009, 07:44 PM
Brandon Jennings and Tyreke Evans going to minny.

arkanian215
06-23-2009, 07:44 PM
I think #5, and #18 go to Memphis for #2.

ooo. interesting. yeah i forgot that they already had three before this one. they're really loading up.

superkegger
06-23-2009, 07:45 PM
interesting. Minnesota with picks #5 and #6. Evans and DeRozan. :nod:

A foye/arenas backcourt intrigues me too. Foye is better at the 2, so that could work.

Very interesting.

Burkey3472
06-23-2009, 07:46 PM
Good deal for both sides.

arkanian215
06-23-2009, 07:46 PM
Wizards are doing this because they are going to get Amare. They got Mike Miller so that he can play SF so that they can trade Butler.

interesting. i thought it was just to get the salaries to match. washington needed some depth. what to do with mcgee, hmmm...

raptor fan
06-23-2009, 07:49 PM
minnesota should package #6 + #18 for #4. they should then select rubio at 4, and evans at 5. sacramento also gets who they want in either flynn/holiday/jennings at 6

Joshtd1
06-23-2009, 07:50 PM
Damn, Wolves with the 5th and 6th pick?

I dont think they are done dealing...I wouldnt be surprised to see them trade up and try and get the #2 pick.

Mane
06-23-2009, 07:53 PM
interesting. i thought it was just to get the salaries to match. washington needed some depth. what to do with mcgee, hmmm...

KEEP HIM!!!

I absolutely love McGee!

JWO35
06-23-2009, 07:53 PM
hahaha 5th and 6th overall to the Clippers for #1 overall :shrug:

FaceDown91
06-23-2009, 07:54 PM
looks like Rubio and Stephan Curry are going to Minny.

PG: Rubio
SG: Curry
SF: Brewer
PF: Love
C: Al Jeff

wow nice young team

Wiz kids
06-23-2009, 07:56 PM
If that's true, WTF ARE THE WIZARDS DOING!

EAGLES3658
06-23-2009, 07:56 PM
As a Wizards fan I love this trade. Cut a lot of cap and Im a huge Foye fan. Miller is also not bad himself. Just wish they could have gotten Brewer in there.

EAGLES3658
06-23-2009, 07:57 PM
If that's true, WTF ARE THE WIZARDS DOING!

You dont watch basketball do you?

Good trade for both teams.

_Supreme_
06-23-2009, 07:59 PM
Instead of committing to building a winning team the Wolves go cheap again and keep collecting draft picks and bench players.

I hope this is only part of a plan, because they will be having a lot of losing seasons coming up if they are keeping all those young players.

Maybe they are hoping to imitate what the Celtics recently did by eventually trading all their youth and picks for the pieces of a contending team... but then again they probably just don't have a clue about what they are doing.

arkanian215
06-23-2009, 08:01 PM
minnesota should package #6 + #18 for #4. they should then select rubio at 4, and evans at 5. sacramento also gets who they want in either flynn/holiday/jennings at 6

not too bad of a trade actually. they need a better starting pg and they arent too sure of rubio. they can find a combo sf/pf later on in the draft. at 18 they just might get psycho t or blair if they're not already gone.

Super.
06-23-2009, 08:01 PM
i like it. It could give Minny some young speed and shooting to spread the floor and let Big Al, absolutely dominate down low

Go Minny!

_Supreme_
06-23-2009, 08:01 PM
wow nice young team

Nice young teams never win anything though, and by the time they mature players usually start to leave.

cmellofan15
06-23-2009, 08:02 PM
Hopefully Minnesota can replace Foye, if they don't then Washington got the best of this trade

jacquewho?
06-23-2009, 08:03 PM
Good trade for the Wizards! OK trade for Minny.

I think 2 of Tyreke Evans, Jonny Flynn, and Stephen Curry will be picked.

Jordan Hill will be a faller on draft day.

soundjunkies2
06-23-2009, 08:04 PM
If that's true, WTF ARE THE WIZARDS DOING!

This is a good deal for the wizards, they got alot of value out of that pick considering this draft is pretty weak.

Wiz kids
06-23-2009, 08:04 PM
Wait how much cap would this save the Wizards?

cwilson21
06-23-2009, 08:06 PM
As a Wolves fan I like this deal. No doubt we did this to trade up to get Rubio and might still get Thabeet as well. Awesome that we kept K Love.

EAGLES3658
06-23-2009, 08:06 PM
A good bit.

Dashtary
06-23-2009, 08:07 PM
its alright

Kdirt
06-23-2009, 08:07 PM
good for both squads

brownies23
06-23-2009, 08:08 PM
Wizards are doing this because they are going to get Amare. They got Mike Miller so that he can play SF so that they can trade Butler.

y would they do that.They have added 2 decent players that will help them contend 4 a playoff spot in the east as long as they stay healthy.

WSU Tony
06-23-2009, 08:08 PM
#5 and #18 go to get the #2 pick.

MN selects Rubio, then Harden/DeRozan

Rubio
Harden/DeRozan
Brewer
Love
Jefferson


OR

They trade #18 and #5 for #2 and take Thabeet, then Jennings with the #6

Jennings
Brewer
Carney
Jefferson/Love
Thabeet

x the game x
06-23-2009, 08:08 PM
i dont really like this deal



The Knicks have offered Larry Hughes for Thomas and James. The Wolves reportedly have offered Mike Miller. The Celtics would give them Ray Allen. The Rockets would give them Tracy McGrady and Carl Landry. The Bucks would send them Richard Jefferson. The Nets would entertain unloading Vince Carter. The Suns could do something with Shaquille O'Neal. The Blazers could part ways with Steve Blake, Jerryd Bayless or Travis Outlaw.


thats all we had offered for the pick,why didnt we get a good big man?or even have taken the t-mac trade,if him and gilbert were healthy no team could defend that

arkanian215
06-23-2009, 08:09 PM
Instead of committing to building a winning team the Wolves go cheap again and keep collecting draft picks and bench players.

I hope this is only part of a plan, because they will be having a lot of losing seasons coming up if they are keeping all those young players.

Maybe they are hoping to imitate what the Celtics recently did by eventually trading all their youth and picks for the pieces of a contending team... but then again they probably just don't have a clue about what they are doing.

they just got a new gm. this is what walsh was trying to do in ny, colangelo in tor, stefanski in phi. maybe memphis has a new gm too. i dont remember too well. some guys prefer to build up from the groundup (my nets, except adding devin harris for j kidd) and some collect and trade like the celtics, maybe portland some day, toronto (with moon and oneal for marion).

arkanian215
06-23-2009, 08:09 PM
KEEP HIM!!!

I absolutely love McGee!

haha i know but what are you gonna do with him? does he start? does he come off the bench at the 4 and 5?

arkanian215
06-23-2009, 08:10 PM
haha i know but what are you gonna do with him? does he start? does he come off the bench at the 4 and 5?

i remember some people shaking their heads when washington took him. he's beginning to grow.

EAGLES3658
06-23-2009, 08:13 PM
McGee will come off the bench...

brownies23
06-23-2009, 08:14 PM
#5 and #18 go to get the #2 pick.

MN selects Rubio, then Harden/DeRozan

Rubio
Harden/DeRozan
Brewer
Love
Jefferson


OR

They trade #18 and #5 for #2 and take Thabeet, then Jennings with the #6

Jennings
Brewer
Carney
Jefferson/Love
Thabeet

I think the 2nd trade would be better for minnesota.I think Thabeet would b great with Jefferson, and having Love come off the bench.However, I would rather have a pg like Flynn, or Curry over Jennings.I think Jennings is going to b a bust.

WSU Tony
06-23-2009, 08:17 PM
Jennings is a great athlete, unfortunately I don't like his attitude.

WSU Tony
06-23-2009, 08:17 PM
I like the deal as a Wolves fan. If we could walk away with

Thabeet + Flynn, Jennings, or Curry

OR

Rubio + Harden or DeRozan

I am stoked.

Kidd>>>K-Mart
06-23-2009, 08:19 PM
Wizards will get at least 5th seed this year in playoffs.

x the game x
06-23-2009, 08:21 PM
According to an NBA source, super active Minnesota Timberwolves GM David Kahn has offered Mike Miller to the Los Angeles Clippers in exchange for Chris Kaman. The Clippers shot down that trade, but countered with Marcus Camby.
http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jon...June-22nd-3276




send miller for camby now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SouljahPhil...
06-23-2009, 08:22 PM
Minny will trade the 5th to grizzlies...

Thabeet.,rubio or derozan...sweet...........

Kidd>>>K-Mart
06-23-2009, 08:22 PM
As for the Wolves, I think that Foye they whould have kept. I guess they plan on getting a PG and SG to balance things out. Curry and DeRozan and they may be contenders for a playoff apperance.

Phat Pat 94
06-23-2009, 08:23 PM
Roto reports twolves will likely stay with 5 and 6 and not move up.

Mane
06-23-2009, 08:25 PM
haha i know but what are you gonna do with him? does he start? does he come off the bench at the 4 and 5?

Well we still have Haywood at the starting position.. Blatche is a solid backup at both the 4 and 5, and i haven't really noticed McGee playing the 4, but he will definitely come off the bench at 5 until he gets better. Towards the end of the season, he was becoming an offensive weapon on the fast breaks and everytime he was within a couple feet of the rim.. He needs to get much stronger, and much more patient in order to become a starter. He fouls way too much, but i think if he got bigger, he would be able to defend much better, and in turn block shots, instead of fouling the shooter.

He is an electrifying dunker, and i would call him a very poor mans Dwight Howard.

Phat Pat 94
06-23-2009, 08:26 PM
As for the Wolves, I think that Foye they whould have kept. I guess they plan on getting a PG and SG to balance things out. Curry and DeRozan and they may be contenders for a playoff apperance.

Foye loved to shoot and that was a problem since he was primarily a 1, but he still had skill. However, the Twolves can get an evans rubio, or harden, all who IMO are better than Foye. Not to mention Miller hated Minny. He wants to play for a contender.

Hustla23
06-23-2009, 08:26 PM
What a trade for the Wolves.

I hope they take Curry and Evans.

SoxBucsFan
06-23-2009, 08:26 PM
why cant the pacers do something like that

tonyd3b54
06-23-2009, 08:27 PM
wow just look at the wiz offensively.... arenas butler jamison miller, thats 4 guys that have consistently put up 15ppg or more in through out their careers... to bad they dont play any D :pity:

Wrightw/Reyes19
06-23-2009, 08:35 PM
solid deal for both teams T-wolves gonna have a solid future n Wiz r gonna be back in the playoffs w/o a doubt

phlp_bj
06-23-2009, 08:37 PM
harden and evans. book it

Kidd>>>K-Mart
06-23-2009, 08:37 PM
no doubt

ggg
06-23-2009, 08:39 PM
good trade for the wizards. they are going veteran. Foye is a good defender and will compliment either arenas or butler or both whoever they choose to stick with. They might not trade jameson or arenas and stick with it but if they do they gotta get an offensive powerhouse power forward or center. Saunders is a veteran coach, a rookie would just be a waste of time of both saunders and their veterans.

AI4MVP
06-23-2009, 08:40 PM
wow. are the wolves really gunna keep FOUR first round picks. i cant believe that there done dealing. i think there going to package either the 5 or 6+18 to move up and grab rubio

JJ81
06-23-2009, 08:40 PM
Yahoo! Sports is reporting the Wizards and Timberwolves have agreed in principle to a deal that would send Minnesota guards Randy Foye and Mike Miller to Washington for the No. 5 pick in the draft and three players.

The Timberwolves would receive Etan Thomas, Oleksiy Pecherov and Darius Songaila, and the deal would leave them with the fifth and sixth overall choices in Thursday's NBA draft.

The Web site cited unidentified sources.


They're gonna have the 4th and 5th picks lmao

Link: http://www.nba.com/2009/news/06/23/wizards.wolves.ap/index.html

Phat Pat 94
06-23-2009, 08:42 PM
solid deal for both teams T-wolves gonna have a solid future n Wiz r gonna be back in the playoffs w/o a doubt

:laugh: no way this puts the wiz over the top lol

EAGLES3658
06-23-2009, 08:44 PM
:laugh: no way this puts the wiz over the top lol

He said in the playoffs, not over the top dumbass.

Teeboy1487
06-23-2009, 08:49 PM
I thought they were a playoff team before this trade. Now they are an even better playoff team barring injuries. Good trade for both teams.

Phat Pat 94
06-23-2009, 08:52 PM
He said in the playoffs, not over the top dumbass.

Id settle down there, no need to get mad. lol

bleedprple&gold
06-23-2009, 08:53 PM
good move for both teams. Wiz don't need a young draft pick to develop, they want to win now with all the money they have committed to Arenas, Butler, and Jamison, plus they get rid of some guys they don't need to free cap space. The T-wolves are building a young team that could be good in a few years if they stay together

sixer04fan
06-23-2009, 09:02 PM
I dig it for both sides.

good trade for both. agreed... washington unloads a bunch of crap along with the 5th pick. foye can still be a good player in this league and mike miller can be a solid part of a playoff team still. the wolves get the 5th pick and now have the 5th and 6th pick... 4 first rounders overall. that is pretty good.

S-Dot
06-23-2009, 09:11 PM
IMO...minnesota is trading up to get that #2 pick from memphis, not sure what theyre gonna offer, but this trade was done to get rubio I believe. Not a bad trade for either team though; I expected the Wizards to hold out a little longer but Ernie Grunfield's a good GM

TheShock45
06-23-2009, 09:16 PM
hopefully miller gets bought out and a team i like or can stand staches him up

also i heard somewhere that they would use both picks to get the 2 from memphis to draft rubio but thats just dumb, rubio could be a star but i think that he could fall to 5 and also no matter who you take at 5 and 6 that production might be alot better together than rubio by himself

DenButsu
06-23-2009, 09:22 PM
Yeah, but i just don't know. I feel like we need to unload a few guards..

We have: Arenas, Stevenson, Young, Crittenton, James, Miller, and Foye..

I just think we need to get rid of Stevenson and James.

The Nuggets have a $9.7 million trade exception remaining from the Billups trade. It's really cutting it close, so I don't know if it would make the cut, but if it did cover Miller's salary, I bet they'd be thrilled to take him off your hands, and the Wiz would probably be happy to get the salary relief.

Billups/drafted pg/AC(?)
Miller/J.R.

= a pretty tight guard roatation for Denver.

CELTICSBANNER18
06-23-2009, 09:24 PM
How about Ray Allen and Rondo to the t-wolves since they dont have a PG or Sg right now and the celtics could get some expiring contracts and maybe one of the 4 first round picks the wolves have for some reason it does make sense because when the celtics and wolves were talking the KG trade they actually were very high on Rondo and probably still are.

dre1990
06-23-2009, 09:29 PM
WTF Wizards?

mrblisterdundee
06-23-2009, 09:29 PM
This is a good move for the Wolves. Randy Foye wasn't the future. I think Minnesota will keep the fifth and sixth picks. They will pick up a point guard and a small forward. I could see them taking Brandon Jennings and DeJuan Blair.

Anthony Flores
06-23-2009, 09:30 PM
I love it as a Wizards fan. Later in the year, when the Wolves played Foye as SG he was a monster.

Arenas
Foye
Butler
Jamison
Haywood

Mike Miller > Etan, Pech, Songaila.

NYYankeesWin#27
06-23-2009, 09:32 PM
as a knick fan, ****

SouljahPhil...
06-23-2009, 10:03 PM
This is a good move for the Wolves. Randy Foye wasn't the future. I think Minnesota will keep the fifth and sixth picks. They will pick up a point guard and a small forward. I could see them taking Brandon Jennings and DeJuan Blair.

Yikes....
Blair with the 6th pick? they can have him later on with their 16th...
or package their 16th and late 1st rounder to move up for blair..

Blair is not wortha top 6 pick...

SouljahPhil...
06-23-2009, 10:04 PM
I love it as a Wizards fan. Later in the year, when the Wolves played Foye as SG he was a monster.

Arenas
Foye
Butler
Jamison
Haywood

Mike Miller > Etan, Pech, Songaila.

another trade for the wiz hopefully...
they have lots of young players...
Go for Amare or Bosh and this team would be sick...

tranman
06-23-2009, 10:06 PM
As a Wizards fan, I'm pretty satisfied with this deal. This trade instantly makes the Wizards a much better team and arguably one of the top teams in the East (which isn't saying too much). I don't think anybody who would have been available at #5 would have helped the team much and definitely not more than Miller and Foye.

Pecherov, Thomas, and Songaila are all garbage. Pecherov's the typical Euro soft shooting big man, Thomas can't play anymore, and Songaila has a bad contract.

yanksknicksgmen
06-23-2009, 10:22 PM
they got the 5th and 6th pick now wow

WSU Tony
06-23-2009, 10:24 PM
And #18 and # 28.

Nighthawk
06-23-2009, 10:26 PM
I like the deal for both. T'Wolves looking to go young an i gurantee they take Tyreke Evans and Stephen Curry back to back. Of course if there still on the board an no other teams trade up to get em

Curry
Evans
Gomes
Love
Al

Not a bad start for an up and coming team. Im sure they'll be in the lottery again. But with some experience and a top pick again they could be something in the future

As for the Wiz they dont need to get younger or add rookies. They know if there squad is 100% percent healthy all year they will have a shot at the title

Arenas
Miller
Butler
Jamison
Haywood

Thats a more than pretty good starting lineup. Foye, Young, Deshawn and Blatche off the bench aswell is not to shabby. Interesting year for the Wiz. I wont go ahead an call them a top team in the East...yet. But i think they have the talent, will them have the chemistry and health?

La11
06-23-2009, 10:28 PM
t-wolves going to take s. curry and james harden

juggla53
06-23-2009, 10:36 PM
Minny can now do a number of things, im sure they will look at trying to trade up to get rubio or they can stand pat and go after harden and one of them many PG's. Kind of suspect from washingtons standpoint as mike miller and caron butler kind of play the same position and randy foye hasnt shown he is capable of running the point all that well and hes an extremely undersized shooting guard

SouljahPhil...
06-23-2009, 10:37 PM
no way they take evans over harden.,rubio.,derozan or thabeet if available...

Bye bye Curry for the knicks.

SouljahPhil...
06-23-2009, 10:38 PM
Minny can now do a number of things, im sure they will look at trying to trade up to get rubio or they can stand pat and go after harden and one of them many PG's. Kind of suspect from washingtons standpoint as mike miller and caron butler kind of play the same position and randy foye hasnt shown he is capable of running the point all that well and hes an extremely undersized shooting guard

Miller can play SG...

wizskinsfan
06-23-2009, 10:41 PM
great trade.. they got youth in foye who was coming along and miller is excellent as a shooter off the bench plus kept an expiring contract in james and got rid of songala!! maybe now they get a cheap fa a gd vet who signs for the chance to get a title if the team stays healthy

WSU Tony
06-23-2009, 10:42 PM
Trade #5 and #18 for the #2. (This was already approved and discussed with Memphis prior to this trade) This would leave the wolves with the #2, #6, and #18.

SouljahPhil...
06-23-2009, 10:45 PM
Trade #5 and #18 for the #2. (This was already approved and discussed with Memphis prior to this trade) This would leave the wolves with the #2, #6, and #18.

then who are they taking? rubio or thabeet?

Oefarmy2005
06-23-2009, 10:49 PM
I hope Rubio Thabeet is trash, but who knows we are Minny, although we don't have McHale anymore.

sanfranfan1210
06-23-2009, 10:57 PM
good trade for both

WSU Tony
06-23-2009, 10:57 PM
then who are they taking? rubio or thabeet?

It sounds like we are fond of both of them.

dRa1niNg_ 3s
06-23-2009, 10:59 PM
Now Wizards GM go ahead and deal Mike Miller to the Rockets, your on a roll dont stop there... lol

SouljahPhil...
06-23-2009, 11:00 PM
I think you will go with thabeet...then your froncourt will be set...

But I'm hoping for rubio...then harden.,derozan or thabeet..

LayZbone
06-23-2009, 11:02 PM
Trade #5 and #18 for the #2. (This was already approved and discussed with Memphis prior to this trade) This would leave the wolves with the #2, #6

If this doesn't happen though, I think Minny should take Harden and Flynn. Those are just two guys I see as having very little "bust" potential. Derozan is an athlete, but I'm not too confident he won't be a bust. Same with Curry and Thabeet.

Evans would be another good pick for you guys, but if Rubio goes 3rd, I see Evans going 4th.

Jennings is a guy I would be willing to gamble on, but based on reports that I've read (minny's interested in Evans/Curry/Flynn), I'd go with Harden (if Evans is gone) & Flynn.

SouljahPhil...
06-23-2009, 11:03 PM
It sounds like we are fond of both of them.

Hope you draft rubio 1st then Harden.,Thabeet or derozan next...

I like also thabeet with the 2nd..Love.,AJ and Thabeet will be a nice frontcourt for the future...

dRa1niNg_ 3s
06-23-2009, 11:05 PM
If this doesn't happen though, I think Minny should take Harden and Flynn. Those are just two guys I see as having very little "bust" potential. Derozan is an athlete, but I'm not too confident he won't be a bust. Same with Curry.

Evans would be another good pick for you guys, but if Rubio goes 3rd, I see Evans going 4th.

Jennings is a guy I would be willing to gamble on, but based on reports that I've read (minny's interested in Evans/Curry/Flynn), I'd go with Harden (if Evans is gone) & Flynn.


I like Harden and Flynn as well, i think Harden and Earl Clark will give Griffin a run for Rookie of the Year.

SouljahPhil...
06-23-2009, 11:09 PM
If that memphis deal happens...
Seems this would be the top 6 picks..

Griffin-no doubt
Rubio- pg to replace foye
Harden or thabeet here-
curry? -lol
hill-memphis needs a pf
thabeet or harden

ecorrea
06-23-2009, 11:12 PM
i like the trade for both teams

ROY 2 MVP Braun
06-23-2009, 11:26 PM
the bucks would have given the wizards mike redd or at least all the fans feel that we should have done that!

BroSweets
06-23-2009, 11:26 PM
KEEP HIM!!!

I absolutely love McGee!

Me too, he's the man. Raw as hell, but with loads of potential.

I don't really know how I feel about this trade. If it turns out, awesome, if not, the Wiz didn't really lose all that much considering how weak of a draft it was.

BALLER71
06-23-2009, 11:37 PM
I like it for both sides. Decent trade.
I really want to see who the Wolves take...

Young2Kinsler
06-23-2009, 11:39 PM
the bucks would have given the wizards mike redd or at least all the fans feel that we should have done that!

Just trade Redd to Dallas. Stackhouse, Dampier, George, and a 2nd for Redd. Saves you tons of money.

eric1501
06-23-2009, 11:46 PM
5-Harden
6-Curry

What a backcourt to bring in.

MSU Spartans313
06-23-2009, 11:49 PM
Yeah, but i just don't know. I feel like we need to unload a few guards..

We have: Arenas, Stevenson, Young, Crittenton, James, Miller, and Foye..

I just think we need to get rid of Stevenson and James.

Thats exactly what we need to do Stevenson is done here and James is probably done in the NBA lol

XJW18
06-23-2009, 11:50 PM
Damn. Good trade for the Wolves.

Not sure how i feel about it as a Wizards fan.

Agreed.

juggla53
06-23-2009, 11:56 PM
Miller can play SG...

True, however im not really sure where foye fits in if thats they're plan, must be as a backup to Arenas (assumeing hes healthy) but the games ive seen of Foye he has kinda sucked running the point

MSU Spartans313
06-23-2009, 11:56 PM
Wizards are doing this because they are going to get Amare. They got Mike Miller so that he can play SF so that they can trade Butler.

NO i hope not i like the team we have right now plus the 32 pick

MSU Spartans313
06-24-2009, 12:09 AM
Wizards will get at least 5th seed this year in playoffs.

Youre right my guess was 3 or 4 behind magic cavs and maybe celts

bball1217
06-24-2009, 12:20 AM
Nice trade.

I bet it plays out like this:

Minnesota trades #5 and #18 to Memphis for #2

Draft top 6:
Clippers - Griffin
Minnesota - Rubio
Thunder - Thabeet
Kings - PG (Flynn, Holiday, Curry, Evans)
Grizzlies - Hill
Minnesota - Harden

Minnesota lineup:
Rubio
Harden
Brewer
Jefferson
Love

Washington lineup:
Arenas
Foye
Butler
Jamison
Haywood
6th man: Miller

Grizzlies lineup:
Conley
Mayo
Gay
Hill
Gasol
+2 solid backups with 18th and 27th (Lawson and Budinger?)

Works for all three teams pretty well IMO.

QuaLiThADoN
06-24-2009, 12:23 AM
i think they plan on trading a pick or two makes sense..... probally looking for another young player for the sixth pick

MSU Spartans313
06-24-2009, 12:31 AM
I like the deal for both. T'Wolves looking to go young an i gurantee they take Tyreke Evans and Stephen Curry back to back. Of course if there still on the board an no other teams trade up to get em

Curry
Evans
Gomes
Love
Al

Not a bad start for an up and coming team. Im sure they'll be in the lottery again. But with some experience and a top pick again they could be something in the future

As for the Wiz they dont need to get younger or add rookies. They know if there squad is 100% percent healthy all year they will have a shot at the title

Arenas
Miller
Butler
Jamison
Haywood

Thats a more than pretty good starting lineup. Foye, Young, Deshawn and Blatche off the bench aswell is not to shabby. Interesting year for the Wiz. I wont go ahead an call them a top team in the East...yet. But i think they have the talent, will them have the chemistry and health?

Miller has no chance of starting over Foye we will probably move him before the season

papipapsmanny
06-24-2009, 12:37 AM
i have a feeling butler may get traded now

BTownTeamsRKing
06-24-2009, 12:38 AM
wat a stupid trade by the wiz.

Go wolves. get some talent for Big Al!

WSU Tony
06-24-2009, 12:59 AM
Nice trade.

Minnesota lineup:
Rubio
Harden
Brewer
Jefferson
Love



Does that look like a promising young team?

Mauersota
06-24-2009, 01:26 AM
Does that look like a promising young team?

I'd take it and run like a naked guy stealing fast food.

WSU Tony
06-24-2009, 01:31 AM
I'd officially root for wins to build this team. ;)

LA_Raiders
06-24-2009, 08:14 AM
good move by both teams, Wiz don't need rooks...

North Yorker
06-24-2009, 08:29 AM
Here's my guess to what happens...

To Mem:#6,Love

To Minn:#2

Why? Mem wants a PF, and Love is exactly that. Minnie wants a C(Thabeet) to pair with Jefferson so that he can move back to his natural PF spot.

Note-This trade could also work with OKC as they have the same need, PF. But Thabeet would have to be on the board.

Then at 5 they take the best SG or PG available or trade it to a team for a starting Guard.
At 18 they will prolly take another wing player.

koreancabbage
06-24-2009, 09:09 AM
NO i hope not i like the team we have right now plus the 32 pick

if washington stayed the same, they would still get killed. they need a big man.

dolfan720
06-24-2009, 10:43 AM
wizards should be unstopable with this like up

arenus
foye
butler
jamison
haywood

nick young, mike miller, and andray blache off the bench! Wow thats really good. All they neeed is a backup PF and there set.

Mile High Champ
06-24-2009, 10:55 AM
T-wolves really bringing out all the the stops to find help for Love and Jefferson...

Mile High Champ
06-24-2009, 10:57 AM
As a raps fan this is something I really don't like, Now Minesota may very well snatch up two of the wing players the raptors are targeting.. damn it.

NYsportsGuru
06-24-2009, 11:05 AM
Foye is Arenas insurance? And they got more shooting in Mike Miller.

Foye will most likely be starting at shooting guard for them.
Miller will be their 6th man, getting a lot of time at guard and small forward.

Mile High Champ
06-24-2009, 11:07 AM
Wizards got way too many players now for too many positions.. Arenas, Foye, Young, Stevenson, Miller, Butler.. who the hell is gonna get traded in that group? They still need some help in their front court.

WSU Tony
06-24-2009, 11:29 AM
Here's my guess to what happens...

To Mem:#6,Love

To Minn:#2

Why? Mem wants a PF, and Love is exactly that. Minnie wants a C(Thabeet) to pair with Jefferson so that he can move back to his natural PF spot.

Note-This trade could also work with OKC as they have the same need, PF. But Thabeet would have to be on the board.

Then at 5 they take the best SG or PG available or trade it to a team for a starting Guard.
At 18 they will prolly take another wing player.



:laugh:

Just a few days ago Memphis said they would trade the #2 strait up for Love. They also said they would trade the #2 for the #5 + #18. Why the hell would the Wolves give up Love (proven 13/12 player) AND a top 6 pick to move up a mere 4 spots in a weak draft? You're nuts and I guarantee this won't happen.

tranman
06-24-2009, 11:56 AM
Thats exactly what we need to do Stevenson is done here and James is probably done in the NBA lol

Stvenson's not done as a Wizard after one injury-plagued season. In the seasons before last, he was a decent starter and the Wizards' best perimeter defender by far. He was a pretty good spot-up three-point shooter as well. Remember the days of Mister Fifty (FG%)? Besides, what team would trade for him when he his back is still bothering him so much?


True, however im not really sure where foye fits in if thats they're plan, must be as a backup to Arenas (assumeing hes healthy) but the games ive seen of Foye he has kinda sucked running the point

The way I see it, Arenas and Foye are pretty much the same player and can be treated as such, more or less. They're both combo guards who most people agree would be better served as SGs because of their lack of PG skills and perimeter shooting touch. If Arenas can be so wildly successful as the PG in DC, why can't Foye in limited action?


Wizards got way too many players now for too many positions.. Arenas, Foye, Young, Stevenson, Miller, Butler.. who the hell is gonna get traded in that group? They still need some help in their front court.

That's one of the questions I have right now about the Wizards. They have almost no frontcourt depth and way too big of a logjam in the backcourt. You didn't even get all the names. Foye, Crittenton, Young, Stevenson, Miller, McGuire, and James are all going to be fighting for either the starting SG spot or a prime bench role. Someones's gotta go, and James will definitely be out of DC sooner rather than later. Anybody but Foye and McGuire could go as well.

North Yorker
06-24-2009, 01:03 PM
:laugh:

Just a few days ago Memphis said they would trade the #2 strait up for Love. They also said they would trade the #2 for the #5 + #18. Why the hell would the Wolves give up Love (proven 13/12 player) AND a top 6 pick to move up a mere 4 spots in a weak draft? You're nuts and I guarantee this won't happen.

Sorry I guess I underrated Love.

Either way I could still see Minnie going up and getting Thabeet.

WSU Tony
06-24-2009, 05:25 PM
Sorry I guess I underrated Love.

Either way I could still see Minnie going up and getting Thabeet.

Yes, definitely. Love, Jefferson, and Thabeet would wrap up our big men for years. Unfortunately we just traded our starting PG and SG to get the #5 pick and unless we want Telfair starting we need to pick up two guards.

I still like moving the #5 and #18 picks for the #2 pick, though. If the Wolves could talk Memphis into taking the #6, #18, and #28 picks we could have a legitimate shot at walking away with Rubio AND Harden. :speechless: