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yojoe792
06-14-2009, 09:20 PM
Ariza is a free agent this offseason.

Any ideas on where he fits and what he is worth? Keep in mind, he is 23 years old.

LA412
06-14-2009, 09:21 PM
god i hope he stays in LA

DODGERS&LAKERS
06-14-2009, 09:23 PM
He is a mid level exception player. The Lakers will match that. Hell, they gave that to Walton, Radmonivich, and Vujacic. They better give it to Ariza

Vinny642
06-14-2009, 09:23 PM
then u lose Odom most likely

I'd want NO to have him but i doubt it, maybe Suns if they get rid of Amare and Shaq:shrug:

yojoe792
06-14-2009, 09:30 PM
then u lose Odom most likely

I'd want NO to have him but i doubt it, maybe Suns if they get rid of Amare and Shaq:shrug:

That doesn't make sense. The Suns are trying to DROP payroll. Why would they sign someone who they'd owe several dozen million dollars over many years? They aren't trading Shaq to sign other guys this year.

Vinny642
06-14-2009, 09:32 PM
Got any better ideas?

droalex
06-14-2009, 09:32 PM
10 mil stays in LA

heyman321
06-14-2009, 09:33 PM
He's most likely resigning with LA.

But dear god, I hope Bryan Colangelo somehow gets him to the Raptors. :pray:

Vinny642
06-14-2009, 09:33 PM
^^ So then where does Odom go?

DODGERS&LAKERS
06-14-2009, 09:34 PM
10 mil stays in LA

:speechless: I hope your joking. No GM in their right mind would give him that much

DODGERS&LAKERS
06-14-2009, 09:36 PM
^^ So then where does Odom go?

Where can he go? Only Atlanta, Detroit, Memphis and Oklahoma City can offer him more than the mid level exception. Do you see those teams strapping themselves cap wise for a 30 year old player that is very inconstant?

SeoulBeatz
06-14-2009, 09:39 PM
someone is going to drastically overpay for ariza.

I love the kid and he's a great role player, but he cant create his own shot for ****, trust me ive been watching him since his UCLA days. He just doesn't have the movement and mindset to be a star in this league, but I KNOW that some dumbass team out there is gonna pay him 7-10 mill a year... maybe he'll go back to the knicks?

DODGERS&LAKERS
06-14-2009, 09:43 PM
someone is going to drastically overpay for ariza.

I love the kid and he's a great role player, but he cant create his own shot for ****, trust me ive been watching him since his UCLA days. He just doesn't have the movement and mindset to be a star in this league, but I KNOW that some dumbass team out there is gonna pay him 7-10 mill a year... maybe he'll go back to the knicks?

Look at my post above. Only those 4 teams can give Ariza or Odom more than the mid level exception. Do any of those teams really need those type of players?

Vinny642
06-14-2009, 09:44 PM
Where can he go? Only Atlanta, Detroit, Memphis and Oklahoma City can offer him more than the mid level exception. Do you see those teams strapping themselves cap wise for a 30 year old player that is very inconstant?

can the lakers get em both?

Chronz
06-14-2009, 09:45 PM
someone is going to drastically overpay for ariza.

I love the kid and he's a great role player, but he cant create his own shot for ****, trust me ive been watching him since his UCLA days. He just doesn't have the movement and mindset to be a star in this league, but I KNOW that some dumbass team out there is gonna pay him 7-10 mill a year... maybe he'll go back to the knicks?

7Million sounds reasonable for an improving defensive ace with some upside. Every player in the league is a role player, if Ariza had the creativity to create a shot hed probably be a worse player, you never know, look at Thornton. He can create his own look WAY better than Ariza, just as athletic, but nowhere near the impact that Ariza has on the game. Giving him 7M would be a truly dumbass move. Ariza is definitely worth 7M.

yojoe792
06-14-2009, 09:47 PM
The Lakers cannot afford to keep Odom and Ariza, unless Lamar is willing to take a drastic pay cut. He said he is willing to take this cut, but to what degree, we don't know.

I think the best the Lakers can do is something like 5 years $30 mil for Ariza. 4 years $28M for Odom.

DODGERS&LAKERS
06-14-2009, 09:48 PM
They can, not sure if they will want to. I want them to bring them both back but, the economy is bad right now, and people just dont like to throw away money. But if will cost them only 5.5 mill for Ariza and 8 to 9 mill for Odom, I think they might think about it.

Living Legend
06-14-2009, 09:49 PM
Ariza will go to the team that will overpay the most for him.

droalex
06-14-2009, 09:50 PM
Because some team may overpay him. =)

AllTheWay
06-14-2009, 10:02 PM
can the lakers get em both?

Yes. The lakers have their Bird rights, its just a matter of how much the Lakers(Dr. Buss) are willing to pay them. I hope they keep em both, even if it means we lose Shannon. Now if we keep all 3, then our offseason is set outside of the draft.

JJ81
06-14-2009, 10:12 PM
Lakers will pay to keep him every if it means they cant keep Odom.

Ariza will sign with the Lakers, no doubt.

The question is "Will Odom re sign with LA?"

superkegger
06-14-2009, 10:14 PM
Ariza isn't going anywhere.

x_notorious
06-14-2009, 10:23 PM
Back to LA for a deal around 6-8 million anually.

La11
06-14-2009, 10:37 PM
ariza stays for 6 million and odom leaves unless he takes 8 million per year because he made 14 last this year

Kakaroach
06-14-2009, 10:41 PM
Lakers will try to re-sign him, but I think a team like the Hawks will pick him up. But Ariza staying in LA will really depend on how much Odom gets. Is he willing to take a discount? And then how much will Ariza be worth to other teams?

macc
06-14-2009, 10:47 PM
No offense but Ariza will get paid more then he's actually worth I had him on our Magic for a long time and he has spurts where he looks good but it's more Bryant making him look good then he actually is. Kinda like the Jordan affect, remember how good Kukoc looked with MJ and how he looked without him? Ariza isnt' going to create his own shots. If I'm LA I'm working out a way to Keep Odom w/ Kobe.

Kyben36
06-14-2009, 10:47 PM
He will stay in LA, Bad economy or not, LA has money. Plus, Odoms contract is coming off as well.

CowboysKB24
06-14-2009, 10:49 PM
Ariza is a free agent this offseason.

Any ideas on where he fits and what he is worth? Keep in mind, he is 23 years old.

He is staying a Laker no question about it.

ManRam
06-14-2009, 10:51 PM
Ariza's stock went up a fair amount in the playoffs, but he was still just a 46% shooter, 32% from three, 9 point a game, 2 assist, 4 rebound player. Even in the playoffs, while he shot extremely well from the field, he was still just an 11 point, 2 assist, 4 rebound guy. His defense is amazing, but he's not going to get paid a ton. He'll make bank, but not as much as I think Laker fans imagine. He's not even a top 10-15 free agent.

x_notorious
06-14-2009, 10:58 PM
Ariza's stock went up a fair amount in the playoffs, but he was still just a 46% shooter, 32% from three, 9 point a game, 2 assist, 4 rebound player. Even in the playoffs, while he shot extremely well from the field, he was still just an 11 point, 2 assist, 4 rebound guy. His defense is amazing, but he's not going to get paid a ton. He'll make bank, but not as much as I think Laker fans imagine. He's not even a top 10-15 free agent.

Name 10. You can't. He's young, plays good defense and has turned into a good jump shooter. Ariza is going to be a coveted by many teams this off-season. He's definitely a top 5 free agent this year, IMO.

Mane
06-14-2009, 10:59 PM
Wizards, for free.

architect13563
06-14-2009, 11:01 PM
He'll stay in LA. mid level.

ManRam
06-14-2009, 11:04 PM
Name 10. You can't. He's young, plays good defense and has turned into a good jump shooter. Ariza is going to be a coveted by many teams this off-season. He's definitely a top 5 free agent this year, IMO.

Boozer, Marion, Okur, Iverson (yes), Artest, Odom, Hedo (will opt out), Sheed (still), Kidd, Andre Miller, Ben Gordon, Crawford,(if he opts out), David Lee (maybe)...border line Bibby. I'd rather have all those guys on my team over Ariza. Some might be stretches...but he is definitely NOT a top 5 free agent. For some teams, he might be a better fit than some of those vet FAs, but for others, he's not.

¿QUE?
06-14-2009, 11:04 PM
idk, I would rather have Odom myself

FaceDown91
06-14-2009, 11:08 PM
Boozer, Marion, Okur, Iverson (yes), Artest, Odom, Hedo (will opt out), Sheed (still), Kidd, Andre Miller, Ben Gordon, Crawford,(if he opts out)...border line Bibby. I'd rather have all those guys on my team over Ariza. Some might be stretches...but he is definitely NOT a top 5 free agent. For some teams, he might be a better fit than some of those vet FAs, but for others, he's not.

lol hedo got owned by ariza, no way hedo is better now. sheed not anymore, andre miller, no. iverson, cancer, pass. i would actually rather have ariza then odom. the only players that i would have over ariza is marion, boozer, artest, and ben gordon. the rest from what i have seen from ariza got nothing on him.

SouljahPhil...
06-14-2009, 11:16 PM
Boozer, Marion, Okur, Iverson (yes), Artest, Odom, Hedo (will opt out), Sheed (still), Kidd, Andre Miller, Ben Gordon, Crawford,(if he opts out), David Lee (maybe)...border line Bibby. I'd rather have all those guys on my team over Ariza. Some might be stretches...but he is definitely NOT a top 5 free agent. For some teams, he might be a better fit than some of those vet FAs, but for others, he's not.


Then very good..So we can sign him cheaper and we still have the money to retain LO...

tr4shb0t
06-14-2009, 11:16 PM
He'll stay with the Lakers if he wants another ring and he'll get paid whatever they can offer him.

ManRam
06-14-2009, 11:17 PM
lol hedo got owned by ariza, no way hedo is better now. sheed not anymore, andre miller, no. iverson, cancer, pass. i would actually rather have ariza then odom. the only players that i would have over ariza is marion, boozer, artest, and ben gordon. the rest from what i have seen from ariza got nothing on him.

Guarantee you Hedo makes more than Ariza does. Guaranteed.

His series vs. LA: 19.5 ppg, 4 apg, 4.3 rpg, 49.1%, 40% from 3, 1 steal, .5 blocks

Ariza: 10 ppg, 1.8 apg, 6.3 rpg, 34.1%, 42% from 3, 1.75 steal, .25 blocks

Yeah...Ariza sure did own Hedo. Ha.

Ariza is a great defender, but offensively, he's average at best.

ManRam
06-14-2009, 11:18 PM
Then very good..So we can sign him cheaper and we still have the money to retain LO...

Exactly.

Duncan = Donkey
06-14-2009, 11:36 PM
hedo is way better than ariza....ariza cant even create hos own shot

lakersrock
06-14-2009, 11:37 PM
He will sign with the Los Angeles Lakers for a max length contract starting at 8 mil per year.

RollinDeep
06-14-2009, 11:37 PM
I think Ariza at this point is worth the Mid-Level. I don't see Odom getting huge offers either. Don't forget, the big FA summer will be comming up NEXT year.

SouljahPhil...
06-14-2009, 11:42 PM
He will sign with the Los Angeles Lakers for a max length contract starting at 8 mil per year.

you gonna give him that? Ariza for me is worth the mle...And Lo is 8-10 mil...

lakersrock
06-14-2009, 11:42 PM
I think Ariza at this point is worth the Mid-Level. I don't see Odom getting huge offers either. Don't forget, the big FA summer will be comming up NEXT year.

Odom made 11.4M this year and Ariza made 2.9M. Odom and Kobe will probably take 2M pay cuts. So resign Odom at 9.4 and that lets you bump Ariza to 4.9. If Buss doesn't worry about the luxury tax, he can add another 1.1 to Ariza to get him to 6M. We've retained the entire core of the team and really haven't spent much more than we did this year. I LOVE knowing we won, but it's still scary knowing we have to resign those two.

lakersrock
06-14-2009, 11:43 PM
you gonna give him that? Ariza for me is worth the mle...And Lo is 8-10 mil...

I'm basing it off what we gave Sasha and Luke. If it was ME doing the signing, I'd give him 6MPY.

JJ81
06-14-2009, 11:46 PM
There's no way they'll let him go. He'll re sign with LA, no doubt.

The question is - will Odom stay in LA?

lakers4sho
06-14-2009, 11:49 PM
7M for Ariza
8-9M for Odom

Jahari Kavi
06-14-2009, 11:49 PM
mid level...great role player, but no one you want to throw the salary book at...still relies on others to score too much.....

SouljahPhil...
06-15-2009, 12:02 AM
I'm basing it off what we gave Sasha and Luke. If it was ME doing the signing, I'd give him 6MPY.

Sasha and Luke's contract are from 4500-6 mil...( although sasha's contract ends @ 5.4 mil unlike luke 6 mil)

We only a few teams having salary cap...I don't think Ariza will be their main priority especiallly with lots of good players available...I Think we should just give an initial offer to Ariza like luke's deal...

$4,420,000 $4,840,000 $5,260,000 $5,680,000 $6,100,000

Mile High Champ
06-15-2009, 12:07 AM
No way the Lakers can keep Odom and Ariza.. Not a chance. Im guessing that Odom is on his way out, maybe to Detroit..

SouljahPhil...
06-15-2009, 12:12 AM
No way the Lakers can keep Odom and Ariza.. Not a chance. Im guessing that Odom is on his way out, maybe to Detroit..

I'm sure they can it depends if their willing...If they offer LO decent money like 8-10 mil we can retain him for sure...

Many Things can happen...What if Kobe opts out and take less in his new contract...Also only a few teams have cap this summer and with lots of great players available I think Lo would not be their no 1 priority...

RaiderLakersA's
06-15-2009, 12:37 AM
I hope he stays in LA. This team deserves to stick together and defend the title.

If Ariza or Odom leaves, though, I wonder who do we bring in to replace them. What forward wants to play on a championship caliber team, I wonder?

sp1derm00
06-15-2009, 01:09 AM
Ariza is gonna stay in LA.

The Lakers organization is not one to let players go when they have found success. At least while Jerry Buss still owns it and not his children. God, I hope he lives forever.