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BradHolt4CYoung
06-08-2009, 08:48 PM
What is the single most important strength in baseball. I know that having just 1 strength on team doesn't make a good enough team to go anywhere but if you got to pick one strength to have on a team what is it? I have heard pitching a lot before but if you have a great hitting team going against a great pitcher I think the team with the hitting has a better chance to win. What single strength is the most importantly needed in order to win?


vote in poll.

gauth25
06-08-2009, 09:39 PM
Chemistry and grittiness.

quiksilver2491
06-08-2009, 09:41 PM
You do have to have a complete team to win a championship. I guess if I had to pick one I would go with pitching.

Havoc Wreaker
06-08-2009, 09:43 PM
It's obviously speed...if you're quick enough you can steal the trophy and get the hell out of there in a hurry

VenezuelanMet
06-08-2009, 09:47 PM
Derek Jeter.

CUBDOM4life
06-08-2009, 09:49 PM
I guess I'll go with pitching :shrug: you need adaquate offense pitching and defense to win the championship. You can't win by being strong at just one of them.

bahama0811
06-08-2009, 09:55 PM
Pitching

BradHolt4CYoung
06-08-2009, 09:56 PM
It's obviously speed...if you're quick enough you can steal the trophy and get the hell out of there in a hurry

I just laughed out loud (LOL) hopefully Jose Reyes can do that for the Mets.

Brosiff
06-08-2009, 10:02 PM
I guess out of the choices i would have to go pitching. But u need a quite a bit of all of the above to win. That plus alot of team chemistry, and heart.

The_Mac22
06-08-2009, 10:05 PM
pitching

Super.
06-08-2009, 10:17 PM
Defense. Point in case the '04 Red Sox

TheRuckus
06-08-2009, 10:19 PM
Defense, pitching, luck. In that order, usually.

yanks 4lif3
06-08-2009, 10:20 PM
As far as the question goes, you need to have a complete team with a foundation of starting pitching and good relief. Pitchers dictate how games are won: relievers need to shut down big bats in late innings, closers need to hold leads and pitchers need to go deep into games. Even in situations where a starter gets bounced out of games early, its always the middle relief that needs to shut down the opposition in order to allow a team's offense to try and hit their way back into a game. Pitching also dictates how the defense plays. If pitchers are inconsistent and prone to giving up a ton of walks, they put their infielders at unrest, which can lead to numerous errors. Inversely, pitchers who work quickly place their defenders on their toes, which can decrease the frequency of errors and slow down the speed game.Therefor pitching is the answer.

Five4One
06-08-2009, 10:22 PM
Pitching and Matt Stairs. In that order.

dodgers310
06-08-2009, 11:19 PM
Pitching

Globular
06-08-2009, 11:41 PM
what wins championships? the phillies that's what.

didn't the red sox blow defensively in the 07 WS?

i would add 2 items to the poll: payroll, and farm system

brandonwarne52
06-08-2009, 11:57 PM
Division Titles followed Playoff Wins would have been my first two answers.

misterd
06-09-2009, 12:53 AM
Wins.

Lots of ways to win. Offense. Pitching. Defense. Speed. Bullpen. Fundamentals. Farm System. Payroll. Errors. Curses. Jeffrey Mayer.

goldglove212
06-09-2009, 01:26 AM
pitching, health is a huge part obviously, defense, offense

but you need a well rounded team

LetsGoA's
06-09-2009, 01:26 AM
3 Things imo

Team chemistry
play off experience
bringing your A game

Gigantes4Life
06-09-2009, 04:32 AM
Position players. Offense and defense come from the same guys.

abe_froman
06-09-2009, 04:36 AM
playing better than the teams you face in the playoffs:shrug:

truth is there is no one thing that you can measure that will tell you for sure.there have been teams that are locks,and on paper unbeatable but fall flat when the season or especially post season comes...pitching is popular,but there are staffs that are close to dream rotations that dont win it;and there are staffs that dont look that great going into the season that have that magical season and come through when it matters most.it can be frustrating but its also the magic and fun of the sport

MetsFan28
06-09-2009, 07:46 AM
Defense easily. Although they won't be able to ever score a run, and the pitching would hardly ever keep the ball inside the park, whenever they do, it's an out.

Your Name Here
06-09-2009, 08:19 AM
Nothing on that poll matters.

It's all about Scrappyness and the Intangibles.

Zep
06-09-2009, 08:40 AM
Pitching and Matt Stairs. In that order.

:laugh2: nice.

mikantsass
06-09-2009, 08:56 AM
I'm not a baseball guy. But from an outsider's view, it seems like pitching and loose-ness in the clubhouse is the recipe

Pinstripe pride
06-09-2009, 09:04 AM
pitching

ritz
06-09-2009, 09:48 AM
Nothing on that poll matters.

It's all about Scrappyness and the Intangibles.

Oh, so true. You gotta be a gamer with grit and fire to really win a championship.

cynomatic
06-09-2009, 09:56 AM
If I can only pick one its pitching

SJ5382
06-09-2009, 11:32 AM
Pretty much everyone will answer this the same way...

5+7=DYNASTY!!!
06-09-2009, 02:17 PM
Joe Morgan, obviously.

Living Legend
06-09-2009, 02:20 PM
General Managers

Moosie Doom
06-09-2009, 02:31 PM
You obviously need a complete team, but you have to start with pitching. Even the championship teams that we think of as great hitting teams had first-rate team pitching.

AIsixersFK
06-09-2009, 02:48 PM
Pitching and Matt Stairs. In that order.

hahaha. I like it

brandonwarne52
06-09-2009, 04:29 PM
Joe Morgan, obviously.

The Big Red Machine.

BradHolt4CYoung
06-09-2009, 05:16 PM
Oh, so true. You gotta be a gamer with grit and fire to really win a championship.

Which is why the Mets wont win a WS this year.

brandonwarne52
06-09-2009, 06:14 PM
Which is why the Mets wont win a WS this year.

.....sarcasm not on your list of things you pick up, huh?

TheRuckus
06-09-2009, 06:15 PM
Joe Morgan, obviously.

Comsistency, concetration...and Dave Concepcion.

pf289
06-09-2009, 06:40 PM
The inverse of A-rod.

Halladay
06-09-2009, 06:45 PM
Agreed. Matt Stairs is all you need. How can you not want the Lumberjack on your team?

mser58
06-09-2009, 07:38 PM
One Major Defensive play (Chutley fake and gun in WS), and a bullpen (Phillies last year)

Shawn Michaels
06-09-2009, 08:02 PM
Derek Jeter.

Shut the hell up

Jack_Bauer
06-09-2009, 08:12 PM
I've said good pitching, good defense and timely hitting will win championships. Good pitching will shut down good hitting any day of the week. But if you have all three of the first you will find the Commissioners Trophy in your possession come October. Something that won't win a championship is a $200 million plus payroll ::coughs:: Yankees ::coughs

Matt-the-great
06-09-2009, 08:28 PM
Derek Jeter

hurdler388
06-09-2009, 10:18 PM
consistant offense and 2 hot starters.

fanofclendennon
06-09-2009, 10:38 PM
Pitching is probably the third most important factor needed to win championships. The first is to win the most games in the post season closely followed by winning the most regular season games in your division or at least the most regular season games of any second place team in your league.

Definitively speaking, that is what is needed to win a championship.

nyyankees09
06-09-2009, 11:14 PM
No question. Pitching.

agoody117
06-09-2009, 11:26 PM
depth in all aspects.

MightySephiroth
06-09-2009, 11:46 PM
In my opinion having fast players and a strong defense will win championships. Doubles become singles by being able to cut down the ball and make a strong throw back in, and some balls that other players wouldnt be able to get to get ran down by the speedy outfielder. A single becomes a double with the ability to steal second than just bunt and a pop fly could result in a run. Have decent pitching and you'll win.

brandonwarne52
06-10-2009, 12:01 AM
In my opinion having fast players and a strong defense will win championships. Doubles become singles by being able to cut down the ball and make a strong throw back in, and some balls that other players wouldnt be able to get to get ran down by the speedy outfielder. A single becomes a double with the ability to steal second than just bunt and a pop fly could result in a run. Have decent pitching and you'll win.

:o

PhillyDominance
06-10-2009, 01:14 AM
Pitching and Matt Stairs. In that order.

I agree...but the other way around, Matt Stairs and then pitching

PhillyDominance
06-10-2009, 01:14 AM
No, but in all seriousness, Matt Stairs is a god

Pinstripe pride
06-10-2009, 09:06 AM
The inverse of A-rod.

Z-Rod?

Your Name Here
06-10-2009, 09:50 AM
Z-Rod?

I think this is the inverse of Arod. (http://i43.tinypic.com/2j1vhvs.jpg)

Nash13
06-10-2009, 10:08 AM
Where's the "steroid" option?

Rique
06-10-2009, 10:58 AM
I guess I'll go with pitching :shrug: you need adaquate offense pitching and defense to win the championship. You can't win by being strong at just one of them.

the Phillies won the world series they have horrible pitching

nyyfan4life
06-10-2009, 11:02 AM
5) Money

:)

On a serious note its a combo of pitching, defense and timely hitting.

If it was just pitching, the Padres would have won a couple of years ago. If it was just hitting, the Tigers/Yanks would have it a couple of years ago. Etc..

Fool
06-10-2009, 11:14 AM
It's obviously speed...if you're quick enough you can steal the trophy and get the hell out of there in a hurry

:laugh: true.

bagwell368
06-10-2009, 11:26 AM
Derek Jeter.

when was the last time that worked??? He sucks.

Pinstripe pride
06-10-2009, 11:27 AM
not being on the nationals

bagwell368
06-10-2009, 11:29 AM
You do have to have a complete team to win a championship. I guess if I had to pick one I would go with pitching.

Many teams have won w/o speed. A few have won missing one or two of the others.

But if you take the team that's #1 in either league in pitching, and middle of the road in everything else, it will be more likely to win a title then if you get #1 in any of the other categories and middle of the road in the rest. Offense would probably be next, then pitching, and speed probably never.

ritz
06-10-2009, 11:38 AM
the Phillies won the world series they have horrible pitching

They way you worded this makes it sound like you're talking about their championship LAST year and their pitching THIS year. Doesn't make sense.

Last year their pitching was pretty damn good. Their bullpen was RIDICULOUSLY good, obviously.

aman_13
06-10-2009, 11:40 AM
Pitching.

Fred
06-10-2009, 12:44 PM
They way you worded this makes it sound like you're talking about their championship LAST year and their pitching THIS year. Doesn't make sense.

Last year their pitching was pretty damn good. Their bullpen was RIDICULOUSLY good, obviously.

Ritz, time to dump the foolish blue and orange colors and jump on over to the red pn stripes of Philly....your family won't disown you (at least not for long)...

Living Legend
06-10-2009, 03:41 PM
Shut the hell up

aww i wish u werent banned, that was hella funny dawg

PhillyDominance
06-11-2009, 01:45 AM
the Phillies won the world series they have horrible pitching

hahahahah

If I'm not mistaken, Brad Lidge was perfect all season and playoffs, and Cole Hamels ripped through every team he faced in the postseason, while both Brett Myers and Joe Blanton pitched very well. But I guess, if you have no idea what you're talking about and obviously do not watch much baseball I can see how you'd come to such an obtuse conclusion...