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td0tsfinest
05-31-2009, 08:40 PM
http://www.nba.com/2009/playoffs2009/05/31/wallace.retire.ap/index.html


Wallace, a four-time NBA defensive player of the year, said Sunday that a combination of injuries, declining production and a loss of passion for the game has him thinking about quitting. He plans to sit down with his family before deciding his next move.

Along with his 4 DPOY awards, he is a 5 time All NBA Defensive Team and 4 time All NBA team player and was an integral part of the 2004 World Champion Detroit Pistons.

The Undrafted VU Panther is also:


Only player in NBA history to record 1,000 rebounds, 100 blocks, and 100 steals in 4 consecutive seasons (2001-04).
One of three players in NBA history to record 150 blocks and 100 steals in 7 consecutive seasons (2001-07) (along with Hakeem Olajuwon and David Robinson).
One of five players in NBA history to lead the NBA in rebounding and blocking averages in the same season (along with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Bill Walton, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Dwight Howard).
One of three players in NBA history to average 15 rebounds and 3 blocks per game over a season (along with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Bob McAdoo).
Only undrafted player in NBA history to be voted a starter for the NBA All-Star Game.
One of two players in NBA history to receive NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award 4 times (along with Dikembe Mutombo).


Though he never had a stellar beginning or ending, he was still once the best defender in the league. Question now is, Is he Hall of Fame Worthy?

m26555
05-31-2009, 08:42 PM
Definitely don't think he's HOF-worthy. He didn't have enough productive years. He had a string of six or seven very good seasons, but outside of that, not much else.

Blah Blah Blah
05-31-2009, 08:44 PM
I would say no. He did keep it up for like 4 or 5 years. But relative to how long he was in the NBA it isn't stand out hall of fame worthy. It is very impressive during that run tho.

1-800-STFU
05-31-2009, 09:06 PM
Not a chance, when a guy airballs free throws he doesn't deserve that.

Vinny642
05-31-2009, 09:08 PM
idk idk i dont think he'll be one though

superkegger
05-31-2009, 09:22 PM
He'll go down as a great success story of an undrafted player who worked his *** off to get where he did, and that found his niche, and played it well. HOF worthy though? Hell no.

NYtilIdie
05-31-2009, 09:32 PM
Just shows you that just because you go undrafted doesn't mean your careers over you still have a chance to be somebody in this league. But he'll never make it to the HOF he went downhill after he won the championship after that he became a guy who got paid alot of money, but never produced his name just looks good on paper

Hellcrooner
05-31-2009, 10:06 PM
he wont or shouldnt be.

Man you got Dennis Rodman a lot of DPOYs a lot of Rebounding titles a lot of First Defensive teams, 5 rings and he is Not in, how would Wallace go in?

Sadly Defensive players go Forgotten.

He will be another Mahorn, in some years no one will remember.

MetsAllTheWay
05-31-2009, 10:06 PM
no peak wasn't that long

Kakaroach
05-31-2009, 10:09 PM
He is not HOF material, but he will go down as the best undrafted player in NBA history.

koreancabbage
06-01-2009, 12:06 AM
the worse thing is: Anderson Varejao is going to get a bigger contract in which he doesn't deserve. Anderson is not worth the $10 Million management is speculating in which he is worth. Anderson deserves maybe 6-7 Million MAX but not anything over that. in anycase, Cavs can't sign any free agent that is not their own anyways outside of small contracts (vet contract, minimum, or mid-level exception)

DopieB
06-01-2009, 12:30 AM
He was good for a couple years, but not HOF worthy by a long shot. there are so many better players that haven't made the hall yet, Ben won't make it at all

albertc86
06-01-2009, 12:35 AM
Wallace isn't HOF worthy. Far from it, actually. He had a good few years but he didn't peak long enough as someone alluded to.

Raoul Duke
06-01-2009, 12:35 AM
I think he deserves it. He had a good stretch where he was the best defender in the league by a long shot. He was an integral part in one of the most unique championship teams in history.

Rodman deserves it more though, so...

NBA_Starter
06-01-2009, 12:43 AM
H.O.F.? Are you kiddin' me? No way! But he is one of the Greatest defensive players of this era but he doesn't have enough offense to be considered.

GHGHCP
06-01-2009, 12:44 AM
Where is the Hell No option?

dee279
06-01-2009, 12:59 AM
Not a chance, when a guy airballs free throws he doesn't deserve that.

Not saying wallace deserves it but when Lebron is all said and done, will u say he does not deserve to be a hall of famer? He airballed free throws b4. So did Shaq. So hes not hall of fame material. Come on now get real.

dee279
06-01-2009, 01:01 AM
Yeah Wallace wont make it but he does have defensive numbers.

JordansBulls
06-01-2009, 01:05 AM
He has 4 DPOY awards. That would be the only reason he gets in.

SwaggaIke
06-01-2009, 02:00 AM
I think people are taking those 4 DPOY award lightly. He had a "good" few years...that's an understatement.

dee279
06-01-2009, 02:07 AM
I think people are taking those 4 DPOY award lightly. He had a "good" few years...that's an understatement.

Yeah u are right. I know if he does get it, it wont be first ballot

Trouble87
06-01-2009, 02:10 AM
I swear there was another thread like this not long ago...

No he's not HOF worthy, Big Ben has done a lot to earn a special place in NBA/Piston history but not enough to end up among the greatest to ever play the game. He'll definitely get his jersey retired in Detroit though...

dos132
06-01-2009, 02:20 AM
he's one of the reason why cav's loss to magics.... i see him dunk uncontested but the ball didnt want to go inside the hole and the ball bounce out of the ring...

AllTheWay
06-01-2009, 02:33 AM
While I agree that he does not have enough offense to make it into the hall of fame, why can all offense no defense players like David Thompson make it in and All defense no offense players like Wallace cannot?

Chronz
06-01-2009, 03:42 AM
Truthfully speaking, defense is overrated by the fans, and underrated by the HOF committee

julio
06-01-2009, 04:04 AM
the afro was big for him.

AntiG
06-01-2009, 11:03 AM
he absolutely deserves it... but probably won't get in because the voters will be like "durrr he didn't score no points." funny thing is, there have been plenty of scorers that got in with poor defensive play.

AntiG
06-01-2009, 11:05 AM
Man you got Dennis Rodman a lot of DPOYs a lot of Rebounding titles a lot of First Defensive teams, 5 rings and he is Not in, how would Wallace go in?

Rodman should have been a 1st ballot HOFer. Its an embarassment to the sport that he's not in.

JayW_1023
06-01-2009, 11:24 AM
If Rodman ain't Hall of Fame...Wallace ain't either. I agree it's criminal The Worm isn't a Hall Of Famer.

MagicBucsSox
06-01-2009, 11:42 AM
dude fell off soon as he left detroit, but i saw his story and respect his journey. if he got a shot early in his career then maybe he gets in but hey, he's a multi millionaire so thats better than any HOF

GiantMetKnick
06-01-2009, 12:18 PM
No way on H.O.F.

Just look at his numbers - offensive liability.

But, I will always remember him as a great defensive player, superb rebounder, and all-around good energy guy that was beloved in Detroit. I really enjoyed watching him.

And of course I will remember that beautiful afro as well.

ProdigyI
06-01-2009, 12:27 PM
no lol

td0tsfinest
09-08-2009, 09:20 PM
he wont or shouldnt be.

Man you got Dennis Rodman a lot of DPOYs a lot of Rebounding titles a lot of First Defensive teams, 5 rings and he is Not in, how would Wallace go in?

Sadly Defensive players go Forgotten.

He will be another Mahorn, in some years no one will remember.

And the worst part is the "defense" is so highly praised by analysts but it doesn't seem to be rewarded.

All the awards given out during a season( obviously with the exception of DPOY & COY) seem to be offensive award. You never see any defensive players getting some props for other awards.

king4day
09-08-2009, 09:47 PM
I know a new thread about this was created but there's no point at this stage to dig this one up. You could put a link in the new thread to this one instead of acting like u wanted to reply to a post that's 3 months old.

effen5
09-09-2009, 01:28 AM
Its a great story, definetly, winning a championship as an undrafted fa,

Personally I think hes overrated, he needs a really good team defense in order to be effective....Which is why he did so well with the Pistons, did so poorly everywhere else...I guess Im still bitter Pax and Skiles offered him that huge contract and did absolutely nothing in Chicago afterwards.

I like you
09-09-2009, 01:36 AM
You guys are trippin. Hes a HOFer.

Or did you forget how good he was in the "Fear the Fro" days?

ko8e24
09-09-2009, 01:40 AM
lol, someone delete this thread, he's not retiring, hes a freakin piston again. not a smart move in reviving this thread

Ace33Bone
09-09-2009, 10:54 AM
He has no chance of being a HOFer... He was a great role player but not much more than that