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JordansBulls
05-30-2009, 09:43 AM
Only teams to win series in the finals w/o having the HCA in the 2-3-2 format that was adopted in 1985 were:

1985 Lakers over Celtics
1993 Bulls over Suns
1995 Rockets over Magic
1998 Bulls over Jazz
2004 Pistons over Lakers
2006 Heat over Mavericks


So that means teams are 19-6 in the finals when they have HCA in the 2-3-2 format.

Edit: with LA winning the record is 19-6 now.

desertlakeshow
05-30-2009, 10:09 AM
It is very difficult to beat an average NBA team three times in a row. Much less an NBA finalist.

tr4shb0t
05-30-2009, 11:40 AM
hmm interesting...go magic

Zefflin
05-30-2009, 11:56 AM
I wanted to know this yesterday JB, ah thank you.

JordansBulls
05-30-2009, 01:46 PM
I wanted to know this yesterday JB, ah thank you.

I posted this because in reality the Lakers could end up with HCA or they could start on the road.

LAKERMANIA
05-30-2009, 01:51 PM
Which is why when it comes to matchups I would much rather play Cleveland, but when it comes to Orlando we will have HCA

lakers4sho
05-30-2009, 01:53 PM
Which is why when it comes to matchups I would much rather play Cleveland, but when it comes to Orlando we will have HCA

:nod:

We match up better against the Cavs.

tr4shb0t
05-30-2009, 01:56 PM
I don't care as much about HCA as I do about having a fairly officiated series (even if the Lakers lose). With Lebron in the mix that won't happen.

lakers4sho
05-30-2009, 02:08 PM
I don't care as much about HCA as I do about having a fairly officiated series (even if the Lakers lose). With Lebron in the mix that won't happen.

Hey, if the Magic can beat the Cavs why can't we??

LAKERMANIA
05-30-2009, 02:10 PM
Hey, if the Magic can beat the Cavs why can't we??

Because the Magic role players are consistent with their shooters and ours aren't..

tr4shb0t
05-30-2009, 02:30 PM
Hey, if the Magic can beat the Cavs why can't we??

I think we could...in fact I a pretty confident we would. I just would have a hard time watching all the bad calls that would surely happen.

I also feel like the Magic deserve to advance after putting up with all that crap. They have proven a lot.

superkegger
05-30-2009, 06:47 PM
I still don't get why they do the finals differently than the rest of the playoffs.

JordansBulls
05-30-2009, 06:54 PM
I still don't get why they do the finals differently than the rest of the playoffs.

Mainly for traveling purposes. LA to Orlando is like 3000 miles I would believe. So just having 2-3-2 so that their isn't much traveling is much better than having 2-2-1-1-1.

Also at the time the elite teams were the Lakers out west with Boston and Philly in the east and that was basically across the country. Also the 1984 Finals where they met probably gave the league this idea.

Do you think the 2-3-2 format should be for each round?

superkegger
05-30-2009, 07:03 PM
I guess that makes sense. I guess I just think it's stupid to change the series format for the finals. I think it all should be uniform, one way or the other.

SwaggaIke
05-30-2009, 07:42 PM
I think we could...in fact I a pretty confident we would. I just would have a hard time watching all the bad calls that would surely happen.

I also feel like the Magic deserve to advance after putting up with all that crap. They have proven a lot.

Kobe had some pretty hearty free throw games in the WCF's too buddy. Game 5 of that series was some of the worst officiating I've seen all year.

OG "Dee" LOCc
05-30-2009, 07:54 PM
I don't mean to sound like an idiot but can someone explain to me the 2-3-2 format

JordansBulls
05-30-2009, 07:55 PM
I don't mean to sound like an idiot but can someone explain to me the 2-3-2 format

First two games at home, next three games on the road, and final two games at home.

The other format is two games at home, two games on the road, one game at home, one game on the road, and the final game at home.

OG "Dee" LOCc
05-30-2009, 08:10 PM
First two games at home, next three games on the road, and final two games at home.

The other format is two games at home, two games on the road, one game at home, one game on the road, and the final game at home.

Oh, thats simple enough. Thanks.

JordansBulls
05-31-2009, 02:04 AM
So history tells us that the team with HCA fairs best in the finals.

superkegger
05-31-2009, 02:23 AM
History also tells us that when the lakers win 65+ games, they win the title.

History tells us, the Lakers will win this series.

LAKERMANIA
05-31-2009, 02:30 AM
History tells us whichever team Draco goes for loses in the 2009 playoffs..

History tells us Lakers will win

These historical analogies are so stupid

JordansBulls
05-31-2009, 02:34 AM
History also tells us that when the lakers win 65+ games, they win the title.

History tells us, the Lakers will win this series.

:confused:

The Lakers have HCA in this series, thus the comment I made was essentially agreeing with you.

superkegger
05-31-2009, 02:36 AM
:confused:

The Lakers have HCA in this series, thus the comment I made was essentially agreeing with you.

I know, I was just furthering it.

Not that the history of it really matters, but if history is an indicator, one would have to go with the Lakers.

RaptorsFanatic
05-31-2009, 11:00 AM
Personally, I think it is horrible and they should change it for next year. It puts the "possible" better team in a lesser chance of taking home court advantage.
I know the All-Star game and all that makes a difference and what not, but I dont like this format at all.

eBayGEEK
05-31-2009, 11:02 AM
Personally, I think it is horrible and they should change it for next year. It puts the "possible" better team in a lesser chance of taking home court advantage.
I know the All-Star game and all that makes a difference and what not, but I dont like this format at all.

It does ?

lakers4sho
05-31-2009, 11:04 AM
The 2-3-2 is better for the road team if they know how to take advantage of it.

m26555
05-31-2009, 11:07 AM
The main reason why they do it is because it saves travel time. I would rather see the 2-2-1-1-1 formula, but it would never happen.

ManRam
05-31-2009, 11:09 AM
I hate it to.

Blah Blah Blah
05-31-2009, 01:12 PM
Personally, I think it is horrible and they should change it for next year. It puts the "possible" better team in a lesser chance of taking home court advantage.
I know the All-Star game and all that makes a difference and what not, but I dont like this format at all.

That bolded part pertains to Baseball, not basketball. Anyways, regardless of format, if you are gonna win the finals, it doesn't matter. Thats why teams like the Cavs, Lakers, Magic, Celtics, are considered some of the top teams because they are good on the road. If you are one of the top teams it shouldn't matter. Also I think it also save travel time so I agree with m26555 on that.

bahama0811
05-31-2009, 01:16 PM
They need to keep it the way the rest of the playoffs are. There's no reason to change it for the finals.

Giaps
05-31-2009, 01:18 PM
The 2-3-2 format is absolutely ********. Why would they do that when 2-2-1-1-1 has been so competitive for so long?

Blah Blah Blah
05-31-2009, 01:21 PM
They need to keep it the way the rest of the playoffs are. There's no reason to change it for the finals.

That is a good reason to why the should keep it but also know that this is a western vs. eastern conference battle so the travel is gonna be much much farther than in their respective conferences. That is probably why the have it like this. Cuts down on travel time.

lakers4sho
05-31-2009, 02:22 PM
The 2-3-2 format is absolutely ********. Why would they do that when 2-2-1-1-1 has been so competitive for so long?

So that teams won't travel back and forth.

Vinny642
05-31-2009, 03:28 PM
I don't like it but its whatever

ragee
05-31-2009, 08:14 PM
Why do they change the format of the series during the finals? From 2-2-1-1-1, they change it to 2-3-2... In my opinion, this is not a home court advantage for the team with the better record coz all the other team needs to do is win one game on the road and they can close the series because they have 3 games at home... Sure, if it stretches down to game 7, then yes that will be a homecourt advantage but I don't think there are going to be a lot of NBA game 7 finals... I don't know if my opinion is clouded by the fact that this format was done (correct me if I am wrong) during the Mavs vs Heat Finals and this format really didn't help them at all.... I don't know... What do you guys think?

Well, right now, I have nothing against it because I am rooting for the Magic... :D I just want to hear other people's opinons...

lakers4sho
05-31-2009, 08:20 PM
No offense but, we already have 238930589204 threads about the Finals format :p

ragee
05-31-2009, 08:26 PM
No offense but, we already have 238930589204 threads about the Finals format :p

Oh... Feel free to close this one then... I was just wondering and probably bored and can't wait till thursdsday so I am making random threads!!! LOL

lakers4sho
05-31-2009, 08:28 PM
haha I feel ya man :up:

IRUAM #21
05-31-2009, 08:31 PM
Mark Blount.

lakers4sho
05-31-2009, 08:33 PM
How come he ain't yo sig no more??

:cry:

IRUAM #21
05-31-2009, 08:34 PM
How come he ain't yo sig no more??

:cry:

His awesomeness is against PSD rules.

lakers4sho
05-31-2009, 08:38 PM
hmph, they just jealous :mad:

Blah Blah Blah
05-31-2009, 08:40 PM
No offense but, we already have 238930589204 threads about the Finals format :p

There was a big one goin on this morning i think.

SwaggaIke
06-01-2009, 01:56 AM
The 2-3-2 format is the ****. And like a Laker fan said before me if the team w/ the middle three games can take advantage of that situation it plays in their favor.

Hellcrooner
06-01-2009, 02:42 AM
ok traveling....
then why not 3 straight on non hc advatage teams place and 4 straight in hca teams place.

dee279
06-01-2009, 03:46 AM
yeah it is crazy dey do the finals different

tbron
06-01-2009, 03:30 PM
i hate the 2-3-2 system.

JordansBulls
06-16-2009, 10:56 AM
I think I had it wrong it was 18-6, but now with the Lakers winning it is 19-6

tr4shb0t
06-16-2009, 12:08 PM
I don't think this stat is meaningful to show how powerful HCA is. If you have HCA, you have more wins in the season and therefore have a good chance of being the better team. My opinion anyway...

Iron24th
06-16-2009, 12:15 PM
Glad we had HCA this year,and glad we won!