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Guru50
05-20-2009, 05:18 PM
1. Melo & Billups
2. Ray Allen & Paul Perice
3. Laborn & Mo Williams
4. Parker & Manu Ginobili
5. Joe Johnson & Mike Bibby
6. D. Rose & Gordon
7. Westbrook & Durent
8. Mayo & Gay

any question?

I agree with you guys about it being a difference between backcourt and frontcourt, but to you basketball guru's out there, if you guys have ever actually PLAYED you would know there are 1s, 2s, 3s spots when your actually playing. According to the offense your running, most of them only have a true 1 spot and there isn't a difference between the 2 and 3 spot. In fact the diffence between the sf and sg are ball handling and some time size. Paul Pierce played sg or the 2 spot before there was a Ray Allen. Labron James and Kobe Bryant have both started at the SF or SG spots, because it doesn't change there role on the offense and thats because they are the same position. Kevin Durant started at both SF and SG last season. OJ Mayo was the starting SG, but before he drafted, Rudy Gay was the starting SG but now he starts at "SF" spot. Guards are Guards and Forwards are Forwards. On this list Melo is probably the only person that is a true Forward because of his size and ability to play in the post, and even he can play the 2,3, and 4 spot. Let me ask you, if you put Laborn James on the current Denver Nuggets team what position does he start at, and would he being playing out of position? For you guys that have never played, and just love the sport, you have perimeter players and front-court players, none of those guys happen to be front-court players. Thank you!!!!

abe_froman
05-20-2009, 05:21 PM
several

superkegger
05-20-2009, 05:21 PM
Most people would consider the backcourt the PG and SG, not a mix of the SG and SF or PG and SF....

SteveNash
05-20-2009, 05:25 PM
Most people would consider the backcourt the PG and SG, not a mix of the SG and SF or PG and SF....

ANyone that knows anything about basketball would know that.

sp1derm00
05-20-2009, 05:29 PM
If you gave me a choice between those on the list... not considering that some of them aren't "backcourts" in the typical sense of SG/PG...

It would be a decision between Lebron/Williams and Melo/Billups and it would ultimately be Lebron/Williams.

The best standard backcourt on the list would be a healthy Manu + Parker combo... but I wouldn't even consider trading Lebron for Manu and Parker.

Arioch
05-20-2009, 05:30 PM
1. Melo & Billups
2. Ray Allen & Paul Perice
3. Laborn & Mo Williams
4. Parker & Manu Ginobili
5. Joe Johnson & Mike Bibby
6. D. Rose & Gordon
7. Westbrook & Darent
8. Mayo & Gay

any question?

look up names before posting?

HOZ THE KNICK
05-20-2009, 05:31 PM
Most people would consider the backcourt the PG and SG, not a mix of the SG and SF or PG and SF....agreed

b_rad23
05-20-2009, 05:35 PM
several

Hilarious.

Deezy Dee 24
05-20-2009, 05:42 PM
well he put oj and rudy on there so im happy

MAC10TIZZY
05-20-2009, 05:46 PM
Hilarious.

very sarcastic, very funny

abe_froman
05-20-2009, 05:47 PM
Hilarious.

thanks,i try

ReymanEjazzfan
05-20-2009, 05:47 PM
hahahahahaha

kblo247
05-20-2009, 05:50 PM
1. Kobe and Fisher
2. Manu and Tony
3. Rondo and Allen

- They all have the ring(s) to prove it and the first one is in search of their 4th

Lakergirl24
05-20-2009, 05:51 PM
Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo

GSW fan
05-20-2009, 05:51 PM
LOL.
"Laborn" is a SF

VCaintdead17
05-20-2009, 06:40 PM
VC and Harris IMO

kblo247
05-20-2009, 06:41 PM
^^^
They need to at least make the playoffs together first

sp1derm00
05-20-2009, 06:42 PM
Laborne Identity

superkegger
05-20-2009, 06:51 PM
Don't forget about Darent and Perice. :laugh2:

How do you spell Ginobli right and then **** up Pierce, LeBron and Durant?

MiamiHeat
05-20-2009, 06:57 PM
how can you not know how to spell "Lebron"
he is advertise 24/7

rpgmaster86
05-20-2009, 07:00 PM
what about devin harris and vince carter anyone?

Mane
05-20-2009, 07:03 PM
Mike James/Deshawn Stevenson

jrivera
05-20-2009, 07:09 PM
LaBorn and Darent have to be =)

jrivera
05-20-2009, 07:11 PM
^^^
They need to at least make the playoffs together first

Well he said best backcourt. Not team..A backcourt can't go the playoffs alone..

kblo247
05-20-2009, 07:14 PM
Well he said best backcourt. Not team..A backcourt can't go the playoffs alone..

They can help guide their team to wins and a respectable season since for most teams they have the ball in their hands the majority of the time and make key decisions.

nipo10847
05-20-2009, 07:21 PM
1. Melo & Billups
2. Ray Allen & Paul Perice
3. Laborn & Mo Williams
4. Parker & Manu Ginobili
5. Joe Johnson & Mike Bibby
6. D. Rose & Gordon
7. Westbrook & Darent
8. Mayo & Gay

any question?

"ANY QUESTION"?..yes, I have a question mr. STUPID..."How long have u been watching Basketball"???
A suggestion for u: These NBA forums,www.nba.com, Sports Channels, and Wikipedia will help u to gain more knowledge in order to make u able to create any thread.

Missing56&33
05-20-2009, 07:25 PM
:pity: I have to go with Kobe and Fisher

but DJ and Ainge and Magic and Scott, Dumars and Thomas sound so much better!

kblo247
05-20-2009, 07:31 PM
:pity: I have to go with Kobe and Fisher

but DJ and Ainge and Magic and Scott, Dumars and Thomas sound so much better!

I know that it hurt to say it, but even Spike made the switch :p

All those two do together is win and bring out the best in each other

Missing56&33
05-20-2009, 07:33 PM
I know that it hurt to say it, but even Spike made the switch :p

no spike is a friend, hes promoting that tv show with Kobe

kblo247
05-20-2009, 07:38 PM
no spike is a friend, hes promoting that tv show with Kobe

I know and I am just messing with you.

On a serious note, LA has had some nice backcourts

Gail and West
Magic and Scott
Nick and Eddie
Kobe and Fish

The sad thing is that Eddie and Nick had the talent and the team but they got stuck with Harris instead of Phil

I did like Jackson and Starks for the Knicks though

thedfactor
05-20-2009, 07:42 PM
1. Melo & Billups
2. Ray Allen & Paul Perice
3. Laborn & Mo Williams
4. Parker & Manu Ginobili
5. Joe Johnson & Mike Bibby
6. D. Rose & Gordon
7. Westbrook & Darent
8. Mayo & Gay

any question?
Man if you're going to start a thread, make sure it makes sense next time. Plus do the players some respect and spell their names correctly, wow.

Laborn? Who the hell is that? LeBron isn't all that difficult to type. I mean it's odd because you actually spelled Manu Ginobili right.

Does Russell have a new running mate in this guy Darent? Never heard of him, but sounds similar to Kevin DURANT. Ha ha.

Two or three of these combos aren't technically backcourts. The top three aren't for sure, come on everyone knows it has to include the point guard.

For Boston it would be Rondo and Allen, which is quite solid.

I like Devin Harris and Vince Carter. Andre Miller and Andre Iguodala is nice too. Steve Nash with Jason Richardson...Monta Ellis and Jamal Crawford...

fairandbalanced
05-20-2009, 08:02 PM
I know and I am just messing with you.

On a serious note, LA has had some nice backcourts

Gail and West
Magic and Scott
Nick and Eddie
Kobe and Fish

The sad thing is that Eddie and Nick had the talent and the team but they got stuck with Harris instead of Phil

I did like Jackson and Starks for the Knicks though

:hide: I agree, Fisher should be mentioned with Kobe and Magic. What an accomplishment.

Dynasty
05-20-2009, 08:02 PM
VC and Harris get no love

their stats combined give you 40+/10+

sure, they haven't made the playoffs yet but their whole front court is made up of kids

by the way, stop going to hard on the thread creator, mature old men

kblo247
05-20-2009, 08:22 PM
:hide: I agree, Fisher should be mentioned with Kobe and Magic. What an accomplishment.

Fish is a leader and arguably getting him was more important than Pau last year because it calmed the team by giving Kobe someone to trust and another voice to the younger players.

Fish also earned everyone of his three rings that he got and has contribute to 2 extra finals runs.

Fish isn't a all star type of player, but the fact remains that he is the best fit at PG next to Kobe and the way they win and play together shows it.

Raps18-19 Champ
05-20-2009, 09:25 PM
1. Kobe and Fisher
2. Manu and Tony
3. Rondo and Allen

- They all have the ring(s) to prove it and the first one is in search of their 4th

Just cuz Kobe is a good player doesn't mean he automatically is on top of best backcourt.

Guys like Johnson and Bibby and Manu and PArker produce more than Kobe and Fisher.

Kakaroach
05-20-2009, 09:26 PM
Half of those aren't even backcourts. Fail.

dre1990
05-20-2009, 09:39 PM
Chauncey and Rip........:cry:

kblo247
05-20-2009, 10:13 PM
Chauncey and Rip........:cry:

That duo can Rest In Peace :smoking:

JJ81
05-20-2009, 11:37 PM
1. Melo & Billups
2. Ray Allen & Paul Perice
3. Laborn & Mo Williams
4. Parker & Manu Ginobili
5. Joe Johnson & Mike Bibby
6. D. Rose & Gordon
7. Westbrook & Darent
8. Mayo & Gay

any question?

LeBron, Durant, Gay, Melo and Pierce are all SFs

SwaggaIke
05-20-2009, 11:43 PM
1. Kobe and Fisher
2. Manu and Tony
3. Rondo and Allen

- They all have the ring(s) to prove it and the first one is in search of their 4th

No, seriously...this thread is asking who in the league has the best backcourt.

Don't throw in some 70/30 combination and expect it to be taken seriously. How about a backcourt that carries their own weight?

The two backcourts you named 2nd and 3rd are better than the 1st. That's like me saying Wade and Chalmers is the NBA's best backcourt when clearly the load is a 85/15 split.

Missing56&33
05-20-2009, 11:47 PM
I know and I am just messing with you.

On a serious note, LA has had some nice backcourts

Gail and West
Magic and Scott
Nick and Eddie
Kobe and Fish

The sad thing is that Eddie and Nick had the talent and the team but they got stuck with Harris instead of Phil

I did like Jackson and Starks for the Knicks though

the best backcourt in Lakers history IMO

theuuord
05-20-2009, 11:50 PM
^^^
They need to at least make the playoffs together first

You put Kobe and Fisher on this Nets team and they're not making the playoffs either.

bostncelts34
05-20-2009, 11:55 PM
love the spellings. hahaha

DreamShaker
05-21-2009, 05:37 AM
It's been Billups and Rip forever....now it's slim pickings....most people have youngish back courts or one guy who is far better than the other...

Kidd>>>K-Mart
05-21-2009, 06:27 AM
Harris and Carter had the best stats.

AKA TheMamba
05-21-2009, 06:53 AM
They can help guide their team to wins and a respectable season since for most teams they have the ball in their hands the majority of the time and make key decisions.

True but they don't have a respectable front court Yi, Lopez, Hayes???? even Kobe cant help them make the playoffs.... Plus im all in favor of VC and Harris

JaySmoke
05-21-2009, 09:26 AM
1. Melo & Billups
2. Ray Allen & Paul Perice
3. Laborn & Mo Williams
4. Parker & Manu Ginobili
5. Joe Johnson & Mike Bibby
6. D. Rose & Gordon
7. Westbrook & Darent
8. Mayo & Gay

any question?

fail?
allen and perice... SF and SG
gay and mayo sf sg
same with durant and lebron.. lol at darent and leborn

mrblisterdundee
05-21-2009, 11:58 AM
In terms of a back court consisting of a shooting guard and a point guard, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili are easily the best.

nd4T.O.
05-21-2009, 12:09 PM
as much as i dont wanna say it i gotta go with Boston Rondo,Pirece and Allen

69centers
05-21-2009, 12:09 PM
In terms of a back court consisting of a shooting guard and a point guard, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili are easily the best.

Manu comes off the bench so they aren't always out there together. I say Rondo and Ray Allen. :)

ManRam
05-21-2009, 12:23 PM
Tony and Manu, after that it's slim pickings.

The great PGs, like CP, Deron, Nash, etc. don't have great SG teammates. The great SGs, like Kobe, Wade, Roy, Joe Johnson etc. don't have great PG teammates.

Andre Miller and Andrew Iguodala deserve some props.
I like Carter and Harris a lot too.
I think Allen and Rondo aren't quite in the running yet.

I think TP and Manu, fairly easily.

Utahjazzfan18
05-21-2009, 12:26 PM
I would say Parker and Ginobili then Rondo and Allen. Willams and Brewer make a pretty solid backcourt though, just not quite top 5 with Brewer as he doesn't have a solid jumper.

joey623pr
05-21-2009, 12:37 PM
Kobe and fisher

masalex1205
05-21-2009, 12:38 PM
those aren't backcourts. close thread.

Labron? seriously?

joey623pr
05-21-2009, 12:39 PM
Maybe carter and harris

joey623pr
05-21-2009, 12:39 PM
Jordan and ron harper best backcourt ever!!! Lmao

Brooklyn Mets
05-21-2009, 01:01 PM
ginobli and parker or fisher and kobe

Cali4rnia
05-21-2009, 01:16 PM
this thread should be more like which team has better sf & pg combo

BenFrank
05-21-2009, 02:15 PM
Give the guy a break.. who know's he might be a 14 year old foreign kid.. now on the best back court imo..

1 - Parker/Manu
2 - Harris/Carter
3 - Nash/Richardson
4 - Miller/Iggy
5 - Rose/Gordon

midwestmadman
05-21-2009, 02:27 PM
So has anyone mentioned that most of these combos aren't PG/SG hince they aren't a back court combo? Based on this list Johnson and Bibby are the best PG?Sg combo that actually starts.

midwestmadman
05-21-2009, 02:28 PM
Give the guy a break.. who know's he might be a 14 year old foreign kid.. now on the best back court imo..

1 - Parker/Manu
2 - Harris/Carter
3 - Nash/Richardson
4 - Miller/Iggy
5 - Rose/Gordon

-Hahahahaaa foreigners.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
05-21-2009, 02:34 PM
Who's LaBorn? Who's Darent?

Kyle916
05-21-2009, 04:33 PM
Udrih/Martin

GOAT

MPScribbles
05-21-2009, 05:34 PM
So has anyone mentioned that most of these combos aren't PG/SG hince they aren't a back court combo? Based on this list Johnson and Bibby are the best PG?Sg combo that actually starts.

Obviously didn't read any of the thread before posting. Fail.

Fear_GAS_OLDier
05-21-2009, 05:49 PM
1. Melo & Billups
2. Ray Allen & Paul Perice
3. Laborn & Mo Williams
4. Parker & Manu Ginobili
5. Joe Johnson & Mike Bibby
6. D. Rose & Gordon
7. Westbrook & Darent
8. Mayo & Gay

any question?

3. Lebron
7. Durant

also....the guys in bold print....are not guards therefore they are not in the backcourt....their forwards...so their in the front court

Fayzon10
05-21-2009, 05:57 PM
Isn't melo a 3 and sometimes 4?

White_Mike
05-21-2009, 05:59 PM
Lol has anyone here even seen LeBron play? He splits point guard duties with Mo Williams so stfu about him being a small forward, he is a point guard, I don't care if he is 6'8".

kblo247
05-21-2009, 06:02 PM
Lol has anyone here even seen LeBron play? He splits point guard duties with Mo Williams so stfu about him being a small forward, he is a point guard, I don't care if he is 6'8".

Kobe, Odom, and Walton handle the ball and run the offense but that doesn't make them point guards

Fear_GAS_OLDier
05-21-2009, 06:10 PM
Lol has anyone here even seen LeBron play? He splits point guard duties with Mo Williams so stfu about him being a small forward, he is a point guard, I don't care if he is 6'8".

looks like we hit a touchy subject here lol

MPScribbles
05-21-2009, 06:20 PM
70.
Let's keep going for like 30 pages of posts about how dumb the OP is until he kills himself.:rolleyes:

I'd discredit Harris/Carter because they are all that NJ has. The only other guy on the team in double digits is Lopez w/ just 13.

If this is best starting backcourt you have to throw out SA.

ATL backcourt doesn't shoot good enough percentage to get my a vote.
pts reb ast st blk fg% 3% ft%
johnson 21.4 4.4 5.8 1.06 0.24 0.437 0.36 0.826
bibby 14.9 3.5 5 1.24 0.14 0.435 0.39 0.789
total 36.3 7.9 10.8 2.3 0.38 0.436 0.375 0.807


Boston- people are confusing the real player for the guy that absolutely showed his *** in the playoffs. Rondo/Allen aren't even top 5.
pts reb ast st blk fg% 3% ft%
Rondo 11.9 5.2 8.2 1.86 0.14 0.505 0.313 0.642
Allen 18.2 3.5 2.8 0.87 0.16 0.48 0.409 0.952
total 30.1 8.7 11 2.73 0.3 0.492 0.361 0.797

Based on what I see in these comparisons, it comes down to Chicago and Phoenix.
pts reb ast st blk fg% 3% ft%
nash 15.7 3 9.7 1.06 0.14 0.503 0.397 0.769
rich 16.8 4.4 2 0.74 0.1 0.477 0.439 0.933
total 32.5 7.4 11.7 1.8 0.24 0.49 0.418 0.851

pts reb ast st blk fg% 3% ft%
rose 16.8 3.9 6.3 0.81 0.22 0.475 0.222 0.788
gordan 20.7 3.5 3.4 0.87 0.27 0.455 0.41 0.864
total 37.5 7.4 9.7 1.68 0.49 0.465 0.316 0.826

You'd have to say that Chicago has the advantage. You could even switch Gordan for Salmons(which I hope they do this offseason) and have about the same overall numbers with better defense. I know you haters will call me a homer but whatever. Barring some unforeseen signing or trade the Bulls will definitely have this best backcourt title locked up next year.

Sorry if hard to read stats, spacing was perfect when I typed it.

MickeyMgl
05-21-2009, 06:54 PM
1. Melo & Billups
2. Ray Allen & Paul Perice
3. Labron & Mo Williams
4. Parker & Manu Ginobili
5. Joe Johnson & Mike Bibby
6. D. Rose & Gordon
7. Westbrook & Durent
8. Mayo & Gay

any question?

Question: Do you know what a backcourt is?

Guru50
05-21-2009, 07:08 PM
ANyone that knows anything about basketball would know that.

I agree with you guys about it being a difference between backcourt and frontcourt, but to you basketball guru's out there, if you guys have ever actually PLAYED you would know there are 1s, 2s, 3s spots when your actually playing. According to the offense your running, most of them only have a true 1 spot and there isn't a difference between the 2 and 3 spot. In fact the diffence between the sf and sg are ball handling and some time size. Paul Pierce played sg or the 2 spot before there was a Ray Allen. Labron James and Kobe Bryant have both started at the SF or SG spots, because it doesn't change there role on the offense and thats because they are the same position. Kevin Durant started at both SF and SG last season. OJ Mayo was the starting SG, but before he drafted, Rudy Gay was the starting SG but now he starts at "SF" spot. Guards are Guards and Forwards are Forwards. On this list Melo is probably the only person that is a true Forward because of his size and ability to play in the post, and even he can play the 2,3, and 4 spot. Let me ask you, if you put Labron James on the current Denver Nuggets team what position does he start at, and would he being playing out of position? For you guys that have never played, and just love the sport, you have perimeter players and front-court players, none of those guys happen to be front-court players. Thank you!!!!

loki34
05-21-2009, 07:38 PM
nash and j-rich

deke173
05-21-2009, 08:23 PM
GUYS! I think the answer the original post was looking for was: Shawkeel O'Kneel and Crawl Marlone on the Las Anjilies Laqurz.

td0tsfinest
05-21-2009, 08:24 PM
I think you got some valid points. At times, Lebron to me seems like the PG of the Cavs cause most plays are run starting with him.

But the definition of your back-court is your two guards. I know that the league has come to the point where SG & SF are interchangable. But coaches pencil in their lineup with 2 guards, 2 forwards and a Center.

MPScribbles
05-21-2009, 08:25 PM
I agree with you guys about it being a difference between backcourt and frontcourt, but to you basketball guru's out there, if you guys have ever actually PLAYED you would know there are 1s, 2s, 3s spots when your actually playing. According to the offense your running, most of them only have a true 1 spot and there isn't a difference between the 2 and 3 spot. In fact the diffence between the sf and sg are ball handling and some time size. Paul Pierce played sg or the 2 spot before there was a Ray Allen. Labron James and Kobe Bryant have both started at the SF or SG spots, because it doesn't change there role on the offense and thats because they are the same position. Kevin Durant started at both SF and SG last season. OJ Mayo was the starting SG, but before he drafted, Rudy Gay was the starting SG but now he starts at "SF" spot. Guards are Guards and Forwards are Forwards. On this list Melo is probably the only person that is a true Forward because of his size and ability to play in the post, and even he can play the 2,3, and 4 spot. Let me ask you, if you put Labron James on the current Denver Nuggets team what position does he start at, and would he being playing out of position? For you guys that have never played, and just love the sport, you have perimeter players and front-court players, none of those guys happen to be front-court players. Thank you!!!!

Did you seriously just type Labron again? LMFAO!
Positions absolutely mean something. Maybe you played basketball under some coach that didn't distinguish between the 2 and 3 but in the world of basketball 2 is a shooting guard and 3 is a small forward. Guards aren't just guards and forwards aren't just forwards. There are guys that are talented enough or have the body type to play either position but if you are going to ask who is the best backcourt in the league you should at least list people that play together in the backcourt which is a term for the 1 and the 2.

mrblisterdundee
05-21-2009, 08:29 PM
Manu comes off the bench so they aren't always out there together. I say Rondo and Ray Allen. :)

He didn't say the back court members both had to be starters. Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili are better individual players, and a better back court.

Angel
05-21-2009, 08:33 PM
The PG and SG are considered the backcourt. Rudy Gay, Paul Pierce, Melo and a few more you have are front court players buddy.

Angel
05-21-2009, 08:37 PM
He didn't say the back court members both had to be starters. Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili are better individual players, and a better back court.

No Rondo and Allen are a better backcourt than Parker and Ginobili. Ray Allen is a future hall of famer and I doubt Parker or Ginobili will ever be that good. To say they are better individual players is crazy and straight up wrong.

JNore151
05-21-2009, 08:43 PM
No Rondo and Allen are a better backcourt than Parker and Ginobili. Ray Allen is a future hall of famer and I doubt Parker or Ginobili will ever be that good. To say they are better individual players is crazy and straight up wrong.

i think tony has a great shot at making the hof...hes only like 26 (i think) but he defintly has the talent ........

but i hate to say it but rondo and allen are probly better, but not by alot.....although i think harris/carter are more talented then both of them IMO

montazingmvp
05-21-2009, 08:51 PM
No Rondo and Allen are a better backcourt than Parker and Ginobili. Ray Allen is a future hall of famer and I doubt Parker or Ginobili will ever be that good. To say they are better individual players is crazy and straight up wrong.

well parker and ginobli have been, slightly (sarcasm) more successful than ray allen and rondo...

who has the finals mvp.

Ollie Tabooger
05-21-2009, 08:59 PM
GUYS! I think the answer the original post was looking for was: Shawkeel O'Kneel and Crawl Marlone on the Las Anjilies Laqurz.

:cricket:

carter15
05-21-2009, 09:04 PM
1. Melo & Billups
2. Ray Allen & Paul Perice
3. Laborn & Mo Williams
4. Parker & Manu Ginobili
5. Joe Johnson & Mike Bibby
6. D. Rose & Gordon
7. Westbrook & Durent
8. Mayo & Gay


Vince Carter and Devin Harris are better then those 4 duos.

Guru50
05-21-2009, 10:05 PM
Vince Carter and Devin Harris are better then those 4 duos.

I agree there both All-Stars and thats one of the few back courts in the NBA with two all-star players. And for all you guys that were saying SF is not a backcourt position, Vince Carter never started at SG until he came to Jersey.

b_rad23
05-21-2009, 10:44 PM
Carter and Harris
Rondo and Ray Allen
TP and Manu (regardless of the 6th man role)
Miller and Igoudala
Bibby and Johnson


Probably in that order too.

MagicDojo
05-21-2009, 11:02 PM
word

Angel
05-21-2009, 11:07 PM
I agree there both All-Stars and thats one of the few back courts in the NBA with two all-star players. And for all you guys that were saying SF is not a backcourt position, Vince Carter never started at SG until he came to Jersey.

So what. He's a SG now. In your intial list some of the combos you listed were SG's and SF's. How can you call it a backcourt if there's no PG dude? SF's is considered frontcourt. It doesn't matter if that player has the body to play both SG and SF or used to be a SF before he came to a certain team. Whoever starts at PG and SG is the backcourt. No if's and's or but's. It's really not that complicated.

jkiddvc20
05-22-2009, 08:13 AM
Lol all those guys are SF and SG or PG not a backcourt. One of the best that no ones talks about.

Devin Harris/Vince Carter

dolfan720
05-22-2009, 08:38 AM
Melo and billups

petski
05-22-2009, 12:34 PM
the laborn supremacy is one of my favorite movies:confused:

IndyRealist
05-22-2009, 02:36 PM
Sorry but there absolutely is a difference between SG and SF. If there wasn't then why did Kevin Durant "struggle" at SG last season but explode this year at SF?

Forwards play "forward" towards the basket, guards play back so they can "guard" the opposing basket should there be a fast break. You get similar designations in hockey, or soccer, or rugby. Obviously there's some discrepancy due to individual talent and coaching philosophies, but these are the conventions.

The new NBA-ish designations are point, wings, and bigs. But I think it's pretty ridiculous if anyone thinks a Paul Milsap is going to defend Yao Ming.

IversonIsKrazy
05-22-2009, 08:49 PM
manu and parker, and they got the rings to prove it!

but this year, i gotta say melo & billups.

_Sn1P3r_
05-22-2009, 09:44 PM
Haha, LaBorn?? That's gold. :laugh2:

But backcourt, I say maybe Kobe + Fisher, Allen + Rondo, etc..

MickeyMgl
05-22-2009, 10:16 PM
I agree with you guys about it being a difference between backcourt and frontcourt, but to you basketball guru's out there, if you guys have ever actually PLAYED you would know there are 1s, 2s, 3s spots when your actually playing. According to the offense your running, most of them only have a true 1 spot and there isn't a difference between the 2 and 3 spot. In fact the diffence between the sf and sg are ball handling and some time size. Paul Pierce played sg or the 2 spot before there was a Ray Allen. Labron James and Kobe Bryant have both started at the SF or SG spots, because it doesn't change there role on the offense and thats because they are the same position. Kevin Durant started at both SF and SG last season. OJ Mayo was the starting SG, but before he drafted, Rudy Gay was the starting SG but now he starts at "SF" spot.

Then it would be more accurate to use the term "wings" or "wing players". A "backcourt" is specifically guards.



Guards are Guards and Forwards are Forwards. On this list Melo is probably the only person that is a true Forward because of his size and ability to play in the post, and even he can play the 2,3, and 4 spot. Let me ask you, if you put Labron James on the current Denver Nuggets team what position does he start at, and would he being playing out of position?

It depends on who you take out.



For you guys that have never played, and just love the sport, you have perimeter players and front-court players, none of those guys happen to be front-court players. Thank you!!!!

A forward (SF or PF, doesn't matter) is a frontcourt player.

MickeyMgl
05-22-2009, 10:23 PM
I think you got some valid points. At times, Lebron to me seems like the PG of the Cavs cause most plays are run starting with him.

Lebron does play some "point forward". That's a kind of SF, usually. Although more rare, there have been PFs who could play that role (Odom). Nonetheless, he's still a forward. The guards are West and Williams.



But the definition of your back-court is your two guards. I know that the league has come to the point where SG & SF are interchangable. But coaches pencil in their lineup with 2 guards, 2 forwards and a Center.

To add to that, there used to never be any distinction between "point guard" and "shooting guard" (or "off guard") - there were just "guards". Same with "small forward" and "power forward" - there were just "forwards".

MickeyMgl
05-22-2009, 10:31 PM
No Rondo and Allen are a better backcourt than Parker and Ginobili. Ray Allen is a future hall of famer and I doubt Parker or Ginobili will ever be that good. To say they are better individual players is crazy and straight up wrong.

Well Parker and Ginobili are each better than Rondo.

JDizzle
05-24-2009, 01:59 PM
derrick rose and ben gorden are pretty sick....baron davis and eric gordon could be speical next year