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JordansBulls
05-19-2009, 07:36 PM
( 1 ) Cleveland Cavaliers (66-16) vs. vs. ( 3 ) Orlando Magic (59-23)


Cleveland Cavaliers will have the Homecourt Advantage


Series Tied 0-0 Series Breakdown
Series Information (ESPN.com) (http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/matchup/_/teams/magic-cavaliers)

Wed May 20th - Orlando @ Cleveland 8:30 pm EDT TNT (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/preview?gid=2009052005)




Mike Malone has always followed his father Brendan’s advice. A respectful son, he still calls his dad regularly for guidance on life and hoops.

Those conversations are on hold.

“Now that it’s us against them,” Mike Malone said with a smile, “I don’t plan on talking to him for a little while.”

Papa Malone won’t be dialing his son’s number either.

“We’ll probably see each other on the court, and that’s it,” Brendan Malone said.

There’s a family subplot to this season’s Eastern Conference final between Cleveland and Orlando. The Malone family is divided. Mike, tracing his father’s coaching footsteps, is in his fourth season as an assistant with the Cavaliers while Brendan, Cleveland’s interim coach for 18 games at the end of LeBron James’(notes) second pro season, is on Stan Van Gundy’s staff in Orlando.





REGULAR SEASON SERIES
Orlando won series 2-1

Jan 29: at Orlando 99, Cleveland 88
Mar 17: at Cleveland 97 Orlando 93
Apr 3: at Orlando 116 Cleveland 87



http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/KHinrich12/Team%20Logos/Cavaliers.png Projected Starting Lineup


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PG - Mo Williams
SG - Delonte West
SF - Lebron James
PF - Anderson Varajeo
C - Zydrunas Ilgauskas





http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/KHinrich12/Team%20Logos/Magic.png Projected Starting Lineup

http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/11.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/3445.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/862.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/469.jpghttp://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/2384.jpg


PG - Rafer Alston
SG - Courtney Lee
SF - Hedo Turkoglu
PF - Rashard Lewis
C - Dwight Howard

Kakaroach
05-19-2009, 08:03 PM
Cleveland takes Game 1, maybe by double-digits.

lakers4sho
05-20-2009, 12:33 AM
Cleveland wins.

Lakersfan2483
05-20-2009, 01:08 AM
This should be a very close game and it will be decided in the 4th during crunch time. If the Magic can win tomorrow, it will be huge for them in terms of stealing homecourt.

superkegger
05-20-2009, 01:10 AM
My head tells me the Cavs should probably win this one. But I dunno, for some reason I just think the Magic might steal it.

ManRam
05-20-2009, 01:12 AM
I just say someone say Rashard Lewis is overrated. Hah.

Just because of that, I predict the Magic win, and Rashard goes off for 35.

He's overpaid, but everyone thinks he's overrated to the point that he's underrated. He's been the Magic's best and most consistent offensive player in the playoffs. Everyone thinks the for the Magic offense to be successful Dwight has to be a force, when that couldn't be further from the truth. Hedo and Shard are the offense.

superkegger
05-20-2009, 01:29 AM
Hedo and Shard have to play big. Obviously one will be guarded by Bron, so the other, whoever that is, has to play huge, like play way over their head and have the best series of their career.

Lakersfan2483
05-20-2009, 01:34 AM
Hedo and Shard have to play big. Obviously one will be guarded by Bron, so the other, whoever that is, has to play huge, like play way over their head and have the best series of their career.

I agree, Rashard and Hedo are going to have to be very aggressive offensively for Orlando to win Game 1. Also, Howard is going to have to control the paint and come up big on the boards. He has to assert himself offensively.

11tg635
05-20-2009, 09:08 AM
I wouldnt be suprised if cleveland sweeps there hot right now and untill someone beats them there #1

tdunk21
05-20-2009, 10:43 AM
cavs in 6 or 7 depending on the defense of orlando...
orlando has no answer for lebron and cavs have no answer for d12...gonna be a good matchup though....

cmstophe
05-20-2009, 12:51 PM
I'll be at the game tonight.

Hawkize31
05-20-2009, 04:07 PM
I'll be at the game tonight.

Lucky. I've never been to an NBA game. :(

lakerboy
05-20-2009, 04:15 PM
I'm predicting Cleveland in 6, but I think game 1 would be the upset.

Magic by 4

Anon
05-20-2009, 04:44 PM
Magic in 6. Huge matchup advantages in our favor.

goku
05-20-2009, 05:07 PM
^^ not really especially when the cavs has lbj

if the cavs r smart they should play lebron at the 4 a little bit more to guard lewis so he wont have the advantage over there pf then big z at the 5 to lure howard from the paint lebron is a good enough rebounder to play the 4

KmB728
05-20-2009, 05:09 PM
Lets go Magic :clap:

goku
05-20-2009, 05:10 PM
oh yea and cavs in 6

TriberForLifer
05-20-2009, 06:15 PM
Delonte and Mo will prove how good the Cavs perimeter game is if you double-team LeBron on the drive.

Cavs by 8.

Eagles_Guy
05-20-2009, 08:19 PM
LBJ is gonna be on a tear tonight after having so much time off.

Cavs by 18.

Hoopsadvocate
05-20-2009, 08:43 PM
Wow never thought id see someone break someone on the backboard ever again after SHaq. D Howard is a beast

leftie5
05-20-2009, 08:43 PM
Damn Dwight! Take it easy on the hoop. :)

droalex
05-20-2009, 08:44 PM
lol he brought down the shot clock!!!

AIverson
05-20-2009, 08:45 PM
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This dude is a moster. Break **** when you dunk!

leftie5
05-20-2009, 08:45 PM
At least they have a backup plan so there isn't a big delay. Should be interesting to see if it has an affect the rest of the half.

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 09:11 PM
omg that dunk was ****ing nasty

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 09:12 PM
kobe..who ? lol lebron is sicccckkkkk

jetsfan28
05-20-2009, 09:13 PM
Why did they just replay him saying mother ****er :laugh:

LakersOrNothing
05-20-2009, 09:13 PM
Cavs are gonna blow the Magic out by 20+ I can read the future

Free Throw
05-20-2009, 09:16 PM
Smith block. James dunk. James block. James three.

wow that was awesome.

zsiddiqui23
05-20-2009, 09:28 PM
wtf was that? phantom call on howard..wow

Angel
05-20-2009, 09:29 PM
We should just give the championship ring to the Cavs right now because nobody is going to beat them. They have proved through the playoffs so far that the are by far the most dominant team in basketball. The next few years are going to be the the 90's when the Bulls dominated. These next few years are going to be great if your a Cavs fan but if your not your team doesn't stand a chance. I'm not baiting either because I absolutely hate Lebron James. I'm just stating facts.

superkegger
05-20-2009, 09:32 PM
No JJ so far, what a foolish coaching move.

superkegger
05-20-2009, 09:32 PM
this officiating is crap

finalverse
05-20-2009, 09:33 PM
Damn there is some seriously b.s. foul calls in this game.

MagicBucsSox
05-20-2009, 09:35 PM
i have never seen such horrible officiating in my flipping life like i cant watch no more

varejao kicks kicks the ball, no call. Dwight 2 phantom fouls not none called for him

MagicBucsSox
05-20-2009, 09:36 PM
this is disgusting

XJW18
05-20-2009, 09:36 PM
Are they not going to call anything on the Cavs?

AmerTeam/KB24
05-20-2009, 09:37 PM
the cavs get special treatment...

Kakaroach
05-20-2009, 09:38 PM
Strange game for the Magic. Howard is dominating, so give him the damn ball.

XJW18
05-20-2009, 09:38 PM
He didnt even touch his throat.
lol

superkegger
05-20-2009, 09:39 PM
That is how you set a screen

zsiddiqui23
05-20-2009, 09:39 PM
i know.. i thought it was just me that thought he didnt get hit anywhere near the throat.

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 09:40 PM
That is how you set a screen

lolo no

your sig is how you set a screen

MagicBucsSox
05-20-2009, 09:41 PM
just like dwight didnt touch joe smith and lebron clobbered dwight lol

XJW18
05-20-2009, 09:41 PM
There not going to even replay it?

superkegger
05-20-2009, 09:41 PM
lolo no

your sig is how you set a screen

no, thats how you go through a screen

XJW18
05-20-2009, 09:43 PM
Varejao Flopping Again!!!!
God i cannot stand that dude.....

ggg
05-20-2009, 09:44 PM
varajao's a girl didnt u kno? sasha and him should have a slap fest.

XJW18
05-20-2009, 09:44 PM
One Dribble but he took 5 steps. lol

LakersOrNothing
05-20-2009, 09:44 PM
I thought everyone knew? Did anyone really think Magics had a chance against the golden boy of the NBA?

You could look at LBJ and a foul is called. Stern is afraid he might be injured for the finals.

superkegger
05-20-2009, 09:45 PM
3 god awful calls on dwight. just terrible

MagicBucsSox
05-20-2009, 09:45 PM
hahahahahahahahaaha dwight didnt even touch lebron, he landed on dwight's back -foulllllllllllll hahahha ****** the nba yo

Angel
05-20-2009, 09:45 PM
Give Cleveland the championship trophy now because nobody can beat them. They might not lose a game in the entire playoffs. I'm not kidding either. I hate the Cavs and Lebron but nobody is going to beat them.

LakersOrNothing
05-20-2009, 09:47 PM
Give Cleveland the championship trophy now because nobody can beat them. They might not lose a game in the entire playoffs. I'm not kidding either. I hate the Cavs and Lebron but nobody is going to beat them.

you sound like you are afraid to admit you've just jumped on the cavs wagon lol

Angel
05-20-2009, 09:48 PM
you sound like you are afraid to admit you've just jumped on the cavs wagon lol

I hate Lebron James guts. I can't stand him or any of the Cavs team but I can see that they are a step above the rest of the league just like MJ's Bulls were.

XJW18
05-20-2009, 09:48 PM
you sound like you are afraid to admit you've just jumped on the cavs wagon lol

Thats what im thinkin.
he said the same thing in this thread in an earlier post.

Kakaroach
05-20-2009, 09:50 PM
OMFG THESE @%#(@#% CALLS. Somebody should beat the **** out of these refs.

XJW18
05-20-2009, 09:51 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
That was Crazy.

LakersOrNothing
05-20-2009, 09:51 PM
wow, nice shot by Mo lol

zsiddiqui23
05-20-2009, 09:51 PM
haha yeah definitely clevelands night

TriberForLifer
05-20-2009, 09:52 PM
Fouls: Magic 8, Cavs ... 9.

And don't start giving me this BS that the only way the Cavs can beat the Magic is fouls. Orlando didn't show up in the first quarter and that's why they were down 33-19 at the end of the first and why they're down 63-48 at halftime.

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 09:52 PM
no, thats how you go through a screen

nah i was bein sarcastic at Scola's attempt lol

Angel
05-20-2009, 09:52 PM
That's ridicuous. How can you beat a team when first of all they're this good and second of all when they hit shots like that? Cmon

XJW18
05-20-2009, 09:52 PM
Lebron should thank the refs.

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 09:53 PM
this Lebron James guys is unfair to everyone else....better appreciate him before hes gone like jordan

TriberForLifer
05-20-2009, 09:53 PM
I am not afraid, however, to admit that two of the three fouls on Howard were phantom. That said, don't tell me that's why the Magic is down by 14.

Free Throw
05-20-2009, 09:54 PM
Holy crap Mo Williams.

Hanzinho
05-20-2009, 09:54 PM
**** the Refs, **** Cavs, and **** Lebron STEPS...

I HATE THIS TEAM...

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Angel
05-20-2009, 09:54 PM
They seriously might not lose throughout the entire playoffs. Imagine if they really didn't yo? I really do not like Lebron James but it's his year. You can just see by the way he's playing that he's destined to win a championship this year.

Angel
05-20-2009, 09:56 PM
this Lebron James guys is unfair to everyone else....better appreciate him before hes gone like jordan

I know. You can see that this Cavs team is going to be like the Bulls were in the 90's and win multiple championships as long as Lebron stays. He's so good it's almost unfair.

ManRam
05-20-2009, 09:57 PM
What LeBron is doing is simply mind boggling. Never seen ANYONE dominate and manipulate a game like he is. And this is a good defense he's going against.

Magic aren't playing defense. Gotta change a lot of things up. Stop letting LeBron isolate. They kept leaving Delonte WIDE open in the first quarter. Dwight is having a great game, but the offense is so stagnated right now. No rhythm or anything.

SVG has his work cut out for him. Cleveland is tearing them apart right now.

And stop whining about the refs. Not sure about Dwight's third foul, but the first two, while ticky tacky, were legit calls. There is no reason he should be lowering his shoulder. It's been a perfectly officiated game IMO. Whining isn't going to do anything. We're losing because we're getting schooled, not because of the refs...not at all. I did not once hear the commentators say anything about the refs.

Lakersfan2483
05-20-2009, 09:57 PM
The calls against D. Howard were bogus, terrible officiating once again. The NBA needs to clean up the game and get some consistency in terms of how they call the game. Howard was called for 2 offensive fouls that were complete garbage calls, even Marv Albert was surprised by the calls.

Lakersfan2483
05-20-2009, 09:59 PM
Orlando has to be more aggressive as a team and take it to the basket and draw fouls. Hedo has Delonte West on him, he should be posting him up and killing him.

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 10:00 PM
not all the calls vs Dwight were bogus...he clearly used his elbow on one of the offensive fouls

it wouldnt matter anyway...lebron is scary right now

Lakersfan2483
05-20-2009, 10:01 PM
not all the calls vs Dwight were bogus...he clearly used his elbow on one of the offensive fouls

it wouldnt matter anyway...lebron is scary right now

Yes they were, what game were you watching? He was dominating down low and that changed the complexion of the game. He went out with his 3rd foul and it hurt the Magic tremendously.

ManRam
05-20-2009, 10:02 PM
Orlando has to be more aggressive as a team and take it to the basket and draw fouls. Hedo has Delonte West on him, he should be posting him up and killing him.

Agreed. The first two weren't bogus. You don't want to see them called if you're a Magic fan...and they hurt...but they're Dwight fault. There's no reason to lower your shoulder like that. He doesn't have to. Just post the defenders up properly. He has only himself to blame for those. Silly offense. You didn't see Stan argue either of those, and you didn't hear a peep from the announcers either.

lakerboy
05-20-2009, 10:03 PM
What LeBron is doing is simply mind boggling. Never seen ANYONE dominate and manipulate a game like he is. And this is a good defense he's going against.

Magic aren't playing defense. Gotta change a lot of things up. Stop letting LeBron isolate. They kept leaving Delonte WIDE open in the first quarter. Dwight is having a great game, but the offense is so stagnated right now. No rhythm or anything.

SVG has his work cut out for him. Cleveland is tearing them apart right now.

And stop whining about the refs. Not sure about Dwight's third foul, but the first two, while ticky tacky, were legit calls. There is no reason he should be lowering his shoulder. It's been a perfectly officiated game IMO. Whining isn't going to do anything. We're losing because we're getting schooled, not because of the refs...not at all. I did not once hear the commentators say anything about the refs.

I don't know about good defense. The Magic are letting LBJ get iso plays. Clog the lanes of LBJ, and let the guys like Varejao take semi contested shots.

ManRam
05-20-2009, 10:06 PM
I don't know about good defense. The Magic are letting LBJ get iso plays. Clog the lanes of LBJ, and let the guys like Varejao take semi contested shots.

The Magic are a great defensive team. Their game plan right now is a bit off to say the least...but they were a top 5 defensive team in the regular season and have allowed the second lowest PPG in the playoffs. They are a good defensive team...they're just screwing up right now.

Lakersfan2483
05-20-2009, 10:06 PM
A lot of people are thinking Cleveland is going to sweep Orlando, but I don't think that is going to happen. Orlando is a very good team, they just have take advantage of their matchups in terms of Lewis and Hedo. They also need to start doubling Lebron and making someone else beat them, that's just smart basketball. You can't allow a player like Lebron, Kobe, Wade, MJ, any great superstar to play one on one. Van Gundy has to do a better job of coaching and double him, make the others guys beat you.

Lakersfan2483
05-20-2009, 10:08 PM
Cleveland does not have anyone down low that can hang with Howard, if he had not gotten those phantom calls on him, he would have 25 to 30 pts. already. Howard is just going to have to adjust to the way the game is being called and play through the bad calls.

ManRam
05-20-2009, 10:12 PM
Van Gundy has to do a better job of coaching and double him, make the others guys beat you.

He's gotta change something, but flat out doubling wont help. You saw what his passing did in the first quarter. He'll tear us apart if we double him like we did Pierce. Gotta play better team defense, maybe some sort of zone. If we let him work 1 on 1 he'll kill us. If we rush to double he'll hit Delonte and Williams and company.

He's blowing my mind. Again, I've never seen someone manipulate and flat out dominate a game like he has tonight. It's surreal.

Hedo and Shard gotta start attacking the hoop more. Dwight needs to keep attacking the Cleveland big face-up, and stop putting his shoulder into them. He also needs to get on the boards some more.

LETS GO MAGIC!!!

philab
05-20-2009, 10:13 PM
Cleveland does not have anyone down low that can hang with Howard, if he had not gotten those phantom calls on him, he would have 25 to 30 pts. already. Howard is just going to have to adjust to the way the game is being called and play through the bad calls.

Cleveland's letting Howard get his points. Why? Because Howard can't beat you by himself.

By single-teaming Howard the majority of the time, Cleveland can check the shooters along the perimeter. That's why Howard has 20 or so points and yet Cleveland is up 15.

Free Throw
05-20-2009, 10:14 PM
Cleveland does not have anyone down low that can hang with Howard, if he had not gotten those phantom calls on him, he would have 25 to 30 pts. already. Howard is just going to have to adjust to the way the game is being called and play through the bad calls.

Throwing an elbow at someone on offense is a phantom call?

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 10:17 PM
did yall just see Leborn embarass Howard AGAIN

this is not fair

theuuord
05-20-2009, 10:17 PM
what a block!

Driven
05-20-2009, 10:17 PM
Ridiculous block

philab
05-20-2009, 10:18 PM
I don't know about good defense. The Magic are letting LBJ get iso plays. Clog the lanes of LBJ, and let the guys like Varejao take semi contested shots.

If it were that easy, it would be done all the time.

To clog the lanes, the Magic have to leave the shooters open. When West and Williams are hitting shots, it's over then.

If the lane is clogged, why would Varejao be the guy taking contested shots? How about the shooters? I mean, hell, if someone's going to be forcing underneath, it'll probably be 7'3" Z or LeBron.



Some of you people have very simplistic [read: no] understandings of the game of basketball.

AllTheWay
05-20-2009, 10:18 PM
Lebron just got *****ed.

Free Throw
05-20-2009, 10:18 PM
Lebron has a better jumper than people give him credit for, especially so far in the playoffs he's been pretty sharp.

superkegger
05-20-2009, 10:23 PM
Really, sans LeBron, the Cavs aren't playing that great.

Driven
05-20-2009, 10:26 PM
EDIT: Nevermind

Driven
05-20-2009, 10:26 PM
LeBron's gonna put up 50 in this game.

macc
05-20-2009, 10:27 PM
Game isn't over yet. Lebron is playing out of his mind. I don't see him shooting that lights out this entire series though. Or at least hopfully not. Good ball movement by both teams. This game is playing out like the last game Orlando played in Clevland. The Magic were down the entire game and came back in the 4th to get up 7. Hopefully we can do the same thing again.

TriberForLifer
05-20-2009, 10:28 PM
This one definitely isn't over. Cavs need to start D-ing up around the perimeter and stop taking stupid shots on the other end.

superkegger
05-20-2009, 10:31 PM
I wonder if the Magic should consider Lee and Redick in the backcourt. Won't let LeBron roam on defense.

macc
05-20-2009, 10:32 PM
2 pt game. There ya go MP

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 10:32 PM
way to go orlando...showing some heart

Driven
05-20-2009, 10:33 PM
LeBron is ridiculous.

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 10:34 PM
this game is why i love basketball just a great game to watch...

the cavs sans lebron dont look so confident right now

nice play by 'skip to my lou'

macc
05-20-2009, 10:34 PM
I wonder if the Magic should consider Lee and Redick in the backcourt. Won't let LeBron roam on defense.


It's actually pretty common of them to go big at the end of the 4th w/ either Lee and MP or MP and Reddick. Won't suprise me if they do it again this game.

Lakersfan2483
05-20-2009, 10:35 PM
Like I stated earlier, this is not going to be an easy series for Cleveland, Orlando is a very good team. They just have to make some adjustments guarding Lebron, you can't just let him play one on one.

macc
05-20-2009, 10:35 PM
Lebron won't make those jumpshots all day (hope not) that's why the Magic aren't changing their D. Notice Lebron hasn't drove more then 3 times all game. We're better off giving him jumpers than easy 2's






edit: And as soon as I say that Lebron drives and gets a foul on Howard...ha

superkegger
05-20-2009, 10:36 PM
You know, this is the offense Cleveland used to play, stand around and watch LeBron, and when LeBron is hitting like this, it can work. But this is the kind of offense they can't keep running, because it takes everyone else off their game.

KmB728
05-20-2009, 10:37 PM
This is a ball game now

MP is on balla status

tr4shb0t
05-20-2009, 10:38 PM
The Magic should consider forfeiting because there is no team ever in the history that can outplay those refs. Cavs win finals easily, no team can beat that officiating...

What a joke

jiggajay23
05-20-2009, 10:38 PM
SOOOOO lebron is rippping it up

jiggajay23
05-20-2009, 10:38 PM
Shachhhhhhhhhhhhhh

KmB728
05-20-2009, 10:39 PM
Lebron is getting every call as time goes on...

Free Throw
05-20-2009, 10:39 PM
The Magic should consider forfeiting because there is no team ever in the history that can outplay those refs. Cavs win finals easily, no team can beat that officiating...

What a joke

The Lakers beat the Cavs twice this season.

zsiddiqui23
05-20-2009, 10:39 PM
man..if only kobe got the calls lebron does.

durtee
05-20-2009, 10:40 PM
This is a joke. I don't remember ever seeing more phantom calls against one player in a single game. Not to mention a superstar type player like Howard. Great game that the refs are completely ruining.

KmB728
05-20-2009, 10:40 PM
Give Lebron an oscar award after that flop!

sure MP hit him, but not enough for that kind of reaction

jiggajay23
05-20-2009, 10:40 PM
actually jordans bulls 72-10 can beat any officiating

Free Throw
05-20-2009, 10:41 PM
You know, this is the offense Cleveland used to play, stand around and watch LeBron, and when LeBron is hitting like this, it can work. But this is the kind of offense they can't keep running, because it takes everyone else off their game.

I don't think it's as much a matter of the Cavs running this offense. as much as the players themselves just keep watching him, it's ridiculous, they need to move. They were in the first half, not well, but at least some.

macc
05-20-2009, 10:41 PM
I was unaware the Pietrus is the strongest man in the NBA, throwing Lebron 15 feet with his left forearm

Driven
05-20-2009, 10:41 PM
Give Lebron an oscar award after that flop!

sure MP hit him, but not enough for that kind of reaction
Still was a foul either way.

Free Throw
05-20-2009, 10:42 PM
man..if only kobe got the calls lebron does.

He did in the last five minutes of last nights game. ;)

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 10:42 PM
lol lebron flopped the **** out of that play

superkegger
05-20-2009, 10:42 PM
nice flop

KmB728
05-20-2009, 10:42 PM
Still was a foul either way.

Yeah no doubt, i just hate how Lebron acts after every foul... he usually checks his mouth for blood after every foul :laugh2:

DJ CHACH
05-20-2009, 10:42 PM
Shachhhhhhhhhhhhhh

yo leave....

superkegger
05-20-2009, 10:43 PM
Can the Cavs afford to give LeBron a rest to start the 4th? He is their offense right now.

jiggajay23
05-20-2009, 10:43 PM
since when was this league not a ***** league that you guys are suddenly complaining of lebrons flop?

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 10:45 PM
since when was this league not a ***** league that you guys are suddenly complaining of lebrons flop?

noone was complaining its just that Lebron flopped HARD ( is that even possible? thats an oxymoron lol)

anyway Orlando are doing well.

DJ CHACH
05-20-2009, 10:45 PM
The Magic should consider forfeiting because there is no team ever in the history that can outplay those refs. Cavs win finals easily, no team can beat that officiating...

What a joke

IVE BEEN saying THIS TO everyone who tells me lebron is god

AMEN X infiniti what ever that equals

actually 10Xe^infiniti

jiggajay23
05-20-2009, 10:45 PM
yo leave....

I'll leave when the nets move to nyc and i get my free t-shirt

gangis2169
05-20-2009, 10:46 PM
Never in my life have I ever seen a guy so big and built like a tank get so many baby touch fouls!!! No wonder why the ratings for this game are crap. Lebron ='s no ratings.

Driven
05-20-2009, 10:47 PM
Never in my life have I ever seen a guy so big and built like a tank get so many baby touch fouls!!! No wonder why the ratings for this game are crap. Lebron ='s no ratings.
Cleveland = no ratings. Ratings are mostly determined by the team. Jordan helped when he played, but if you look at all of the high ratings it usually involves the Knicks, Lakers, Celtics and Bulls.

KmB728
05-20-2009, 10:47 PM
Rashard cant miss right now

:sigh: similar to game 7 in Boston

jiggajay23
05-20-2009, 10:48 PM
IVE BEEN saying THIS TO everyone who tells me lebron is god

AMEN X infiniti what ever that equals

actually 10Xe^infiniti

the refs control the game get usd to it!!!

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 10:48 PM
as i said before...that cavs SUCK without Lebron..there is nothing in that lineup other than mo williams

jiggajay23
05-20-2009, 10:49 PM
alright who thinks the magic should put bouaziz in for johnson right now....who agrees?

macc
05-20-2009, 10:49 PM
And now the Magic have the lead!!!

Actually though, how about the Cavs trade Lebron to the Magic for Lewis, Turk and Alston. I would just want to see how many championships LBJ and D12 could win together. To me that sounds more lethal than Kobe and Shaq.

DenButsu
05-20-2009, 10:50 PM
Wow, watching the beginning of this game I thought it was headed for a blowout.

No matter what the final outcome is, I have to hand it to the Magic for hanging tough and clawing their way back into the lead. :clap:

Free Throw
05-20-2009, 10:51 PM
Never in my life have I ever seen a guy so big and built like a tank get so many baby touch fouls!!! No wonder why the ratings for this game are crap. Lebron ='s no ratings.

Fouls are based on a players size/strength?

I agree that often times Lebron is given phantom calls, there's no denying that.

But sometimes people complain about Lebron getting fouls due to the fact he isn't always hit hard enough to cause him to react to it. I mean, when you're built like him an arm slap isn't going to look like much, but it's a foul.

carter15
05-20-2009, 10:51 PM
wow what a game...i take back what i said...i think i said cavs in 5...both series r going to 7 games.

KmB728
05-20-2009, 10:52 PM
I hate Wally :pity:

he was garbage on the Celtics

KmB728
05-20-2009, 10:53 PM
The Magic should try Dwight and Gortat on the court at once... kind of like a twin towers thing they would get a ton of rebounds

gangis2169
05-20-2009, 10:53 PM
And now the Magic have the lead!!!

Actually though, how about the Cavs trade Lebron to the Magic for Lewis, Turk and Alston. I would just want to see how many championships LBJ and D12 could win together. To me that sounds more lethal than Kobe and Shaq.

It would never work Lebron even though he has been tearing up the worst perimeter defenders these playoffs he is not a perimeter shooter and Dwight is all inside. You need an inside outside game. Thats what made Kobe and Shaq so great.

Free Throw
05-20-2009, 10:53 PM
The Cavaliers offense is horrendous right now, need some ball movement.

Lakersfan2483
05-20-2009, 10:54 PM
The Magic have a very good team.

NYMetros
05-20-2009, 10:54 PM
Dwight Howard is beastin' tonight. He is destroying the Cavs on the boards and in the paint.

DenButsu
05-20-2009, 10:54 PM
I'm not convinced that having Joe Smith guard Dwight in the 4th quarter is a winning defensive strategy for the Cavs.

Free Throw
05-20-2009, 10:55 PM
i'm not convinced that having joe smith guard dwight in the 4th quarter is a winning defensive strategy for the cavs.

+1. :(

Lakersfan2483
05-20-2009, 10:55 PM
Howard is killing inside

Driven
05-20-2009, 10:56 PM
It would never work Lebron even though he has been tearing up the worst perimeter defenders these playoffs he is not a perimeter shooter and Dwight is all inside. You need an inside outside game. Thats what made Kobe and Shaq so great.
Wade's not a great 3PT shooter. Neither was MJ.

AmerTeam/KB24
05-20-2009, 10:56 PM
d. howard going 2 work

Free Throw
05-20-2009, 10:57 PM
The Magic have a very good team.

They were 4-1 against the two best teams in the league.

KmB728
05-20-2009, 10:58 PM
The King couldnt draw the foul! im lovin it, they let Dwight play a little D

Lakersfan2483
05-20-2009, 10:58 PM
They were 4-1 against the two best teams in the league.

I have been really impressed tonight, they made a great run to get back in this game.

macc
05-20-2009, 10:59 PM
I'm glad we have MP signed for another 4 more years.

macc
05-20-2009, 11:00 PM
Stand by, this is about the time Turk starts driving and draining 3's.

Free Throw
05-20-2009, 11:00 PM
I been really impressed tonight

Yeah, no one really gave them credit for beating the Celtics, the C's were still a tough team with no Garnett.

They're playing good defense tonight too, apart from Lebron's J's, which they seemed to concede they haven't given up too much easy stuff.

Lakersfan2483
05-20-2009, 11:01 PM
Stand by, this is about the time Turk starts driving and draining 3's.

Someone has to hit a big shot for the Magic., like you said, hopefully it's Hedo.

KmB728
05-20-2009, 11:02 PM
Please let the Cavs win the series. One, LA sucks against the Magic, two, I want Kobe to beat LeBron and three, we're WAY better against the Cavs than the Magic.

They have to get through Denver first buddy

DenButsu
05-20-2009, 11:02 PM
Please let the Cavs win the series. One, LA sucks against the Magic, two, I want Kobe to beat LeBron and three, we're WAY better against the Cavs than the Magic.

Might want to wait and see if the Lakers get past the Nuggets first. :cool:

gangis2169
05-20-2009, 11:02 PM
Wade's not a great 3PT shooter. Neither was MJ.

Ok shooting anywhere outside the paint, Jordan Kobe and Wade all shot over 45% outside the paint. Lebron shoots 36%.

AmerTeam/KB24
05-20-2009, 11:03 PM
lebron bout 2 start doing wrk.....

USMCLaker
05-20-2009, 11:03 PM
Please let the Cavs win the series. One, LA sucks against the Magic, two, I want Kobe to beat LeBron and three, we're WAY better against the Cavs than the Magic.

Relax fellow Laker fan first off our two losses against the came with a lack luster effort from the Lakers and second, to be the best you have to beat the best, shouldn't get it any other way.

XJW18
05-20-2009, 11:03 PM
Cmon Dwight.

NYMetros
05-20-2009, 11:04 PM
I would really like to see all those Cleveland fans go home unhappy. It would make my week.

Lakersfan2483
05-20-2009, 11:04 PM
Big shot

Free Throw
05-20-2009, 11:04 PM
Relax fellow Laker fan first off our two losses against the came with a lack luster effort from the Lakers and second, to be the best you have to beat the best, shouldn't get it any other way.

Could the Cavaliers say the same thing about the two they lost to the Lakers? :D

macc
05-20-2009, 11:04 PM
ya I think I called that Turk 3

XJW18
05-20-2009, 11:04 PM
Alright here goes Hedo!

AmerTeam/KB24
05-20-2009, 11:05 PM
king james

macc
05-20-2009, 11:08 PM
Lets go Magic, finish out strong

Lakersfan2483
05-20-2009, 11:08 PM
The only issue I have with Orlando is they don't stop penetration, they have to close the lane down. Lebron is getting layups, that can't happen in a tight game.

Lakersfan2483
05-20-2009, 11:08 PM
Lets go Magic, finish out strong

You called it, and Hedo has stepped up.

i.got.the.nutz
05-20-2009, 11:08 PM
damn sick layup by lebron!

Kakaroach
05-20-2009, 11:09 PM
Turn it on Hedo.

lakersrock
05-20-2009, 11:09 PM
Again, a King can't be King without gold. It's still Prince James and I love seeing this after all the talking up we heard after they dominated the mighty Pistons and Hawks. There isn't a team in the NBA to mop the floor with a GOOD team for a series. They mopped the floor with crappy teams and now they have to fight. That's usually how it works.

AIverson
05-20-2009, 11:09 PM
Ok shooting anywhere outside the paint, Jordan Kobe and Wade all shot over 45% outside the paint. Lebron shoots 36%.

Do you have a stat for Iverson? I know he shot 40% on his 2pt jumpers, but outside the paint in general would be good to know.

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 11:09 PM
the cavs thrive off of confidence. right now only lebron is confident. Because lebron was so dominant tonight the Magic were able to focus more on the supporting cast. As a result, now late in the game where the Cavs may need a role player to hit a shot, they are all short on confidence

macc
05-20-2009, 11:10 PM
You called it, and Hedo has stepped up.

Yeah hopfully we can drop some daggars now.

NYMetros
05-20-2009, 11:10 PM
Again, a King can't be King without gold. It's still Prince James and I love seeing this after all the talking up we heard after they dominated the mighty Pistons and Hawks. There isn't a team in the NBA to mop the floor with a GOOD team for a series. They mopped the floor with crappy teams and now they have to fight. That's usually how it works.

LeBron couldn't be playing any better...

KmB728
05-20-2009, 11:11 PM
Rashard

Kakaroach
05-20-2009, 11:11 PM
Rashard lewis banggggggggggggggggggggggggg

AmerTeam/KB24
05-20-2009, 11:11 PM
that was a big bucket

Kakaroach
05-20-2009, 11:11 PM
Mo williams bangggggggg

Free Throw
05-20-2009, 11:12 PM
Again, a King can't be King without gold. It's still Prince James and I love seeing this after all the talking up we heard after they dominated the mighty Pistons and Hawks. There isn't a team in the NBA to mop the floor with a GOOD team for a series. They mopped the floor with crappy teams and now they have to fight. That's usually how it works.

They talked themselves up?

I don't remember them ever being cocky, or saying they're going to kill a team.

Lakersfan2483
05-20-2009, 11:13 PM
Lebron gets bailed out everytime, where was the foul?

Kakaroach
05-20-2009, 11:13 PM
Pietrus is one hell of a defender. And James has missed a lot of free throws.

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 11:14 PM
One thing that has become alarmingly clear tonight is that Lebron has no confidence in his jumper late in games he puts his head down and hopes for the best

KmB728
05-20-2009, 11:14 PM
Turk draws the foul!

XJW18
05-20-2009, 11:14 PM
Yesssss

Free Throw
05-20-2009, 11:14 PM
Lebron gets bailed out everytime, where was the foul?

Reminds me of a game last night. :rolleyes:

AmerTeam/KB24
05-20-2009, 11:14 PM
stay on ur feet andy....

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 11:14 PM
great call ref

wtf are the cavs arguing for ?

macc
05-20-2009, 11:14 PM
I don't remember who brought it up but I told them Orlando would go big at the point at the point at the end of the game.

Kakaroach
05-20-2009, 11:15 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA A flopper just got flopped.

DenButsu
05-20-2009, 11:15 PM
Good job by the refs for not rewarding the flop. :clap:

Driven
05-20-2009, 11:15 PM
One thing that has become alarmingly clear tonight is that Lebron has no confidence in his jumper late in games he puts his head down and hopes for the best
LeBron should be driving to the basket.

thapharcyd
05-20-2009, 11:15 PM
I love how Cleveland is all upset cuz one call didn't go there way

lakersrock
05-20-2009, 11:16 PM
They talked themselves up?

I don't remember them ever being cocky, or saying they're going to kill a team.

I'm talking about all the people on this site. All I heard is they're so dominant because they're 8-0. Well big whoop. They didn't play anybody. I'm amazed LeBron has played this good and they're not winning though. All that means is they made LeBron more of a scorer than PG.

Free Throw
05-20-2009, 11:17 PM
I love how Cleveland is all upset cuz one call didn't go there way

I think they were trying to point out it was a 2 pointer, everyone knew it was a foul.

XJW18
05-20-2009, 11:17 PM
No....

AmerTeam/KB24
05-20-2009, 11:17 PM
buckettts

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 11:17 PM
delonte !

AIverson
05-20-2009, 11:17 PM
Damn, the refs give Lebron two pivots.

NYMetros
05-20-2009, 11:17 PM
Lebron gets bailed out everytime, where was the foul?

Kind of like last night? :laugh2:

Great sequence of plays created by LeBron.

i.got.the.nutz
05-20-2009, 11:17 PM
traveling by lebron, how did the refs miss that

Kakaroach
05-20-2009, 11:17 PM
OH Delonte West BANGGGGGGG

Driven
05-20-2009, 11:17 PM
I'm talking about all the people on this site. All I heard is they're so dominant because they're 8-0. Well big whoop. They didn't play anybody. I'm amazed LeBron has played this good and they're not winning though. All that means is they made LeBron more of a scorer than PG.
He's got 8 assists though.

lakerboy
05-20-2009, 11:18 PM
Okay. Get the ball to Dwight!

macc
05-20-2009, 11:18 PM
I was wondering how long they would let Lebron sit in the paint before he did somthing with it.

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 11:18 PM
I'm talking about all the people on this site. All I heard is they're so dominant because they're 8-0. Well big whoop. They didn't play anybody. I'm amazed LeBron has played this good and they're not winning though. All that means is they made LeBron more of a scorer than PG.

lebron still has 8 assists

koreancabbage
05-20-2009, 11:19 PM
3 in the key by Ilgauskas? he was in there for the longest time

Lost Art
05-20-2009, 11:19 PM
I swear, I knew the Cavs would hit that shot. The Cavs are a team of destiny, everything goes their way.

AmerTeam/KB24
05-20-2009, 11:19 PM
the game over....

Kakaroach
05-20-2009, 11:19 PM
Wasn't that a travel? Is that why SVG looks like he is pulling what is left of his hair out of his head?

24/7 All Day
05-20-2009, 11:19 PM
peitrus fuct up with that horrible shot

nigerianking
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
Travel!!!!!

AmerTeam/KB24
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
King James and 1.....

superkegger
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
what a game

lakerboy
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
Whoa. LBJ.

Lost Art
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
I knew it, I just knew it

NYMetros
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
What a shot by LeBron. Just continuing to prove why he is the best in the game.

lakersrock
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
That was a foul? Oh wait, it's LeBron.

24/7 All Day
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
Wow

i.got.the.nutz
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
these refs are a joke

thapharcyd
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
That was not a foul

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
all the Kobe fans should be quiet this is EXACTLY what happened last night

koreancabbage
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
no call...BS

Lost Art
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
The Cavs just can't lose :(

DenButsu
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
That was a foul... how?

Kakaroach
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
This has been a terrific game lmao. 49 from the KING.

lakerboy
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
I guess you missed the 18 Kobe put up with a dead team strapped to his back.

Not to mention, clutch free throws :P

Lost Art
05-20-2009, 11:21 PM
Orlando is going to be SOOOOO bummed out about losing this game.

NYMetros
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
I guess you missed the 18 Kobe put up with a dead team strapped to his back.

LeBron has a dead team strapped to his back as well. 49 points and 8 assists and his team is barely winning. His team couldn't be any worse ATM.

Angel
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
Lebron is incredible. I haven't seen a player even close to that good since Michael Jordan. Scary!

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
I guess you missed the 18 Kobe put up in the 4th with a dead team strapped to his back.

yeah thats sooo diff from tonight cuz lebron's teammates are playing so well

macc
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
I can see Magic going for the win here instead of the tie.

NFLNBA
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
Wow that was excellent Defense! Lebron gets bailed out as usual

24/7 All Day
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
Ohhhhhhhhhhh

XJW18
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Ooooooooooooo snap!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rashard lewis

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
RASHARD LEWS IS A grown MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Kakaroach
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
OMFG What a shot!!!!!! LEWISSSSSSSSSSS

koreancabbage
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Rashad lewis!!!

NFLNBA
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Lewis with the 3

24/7 All Day
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
owwwwwwwwwwwwwwowowwwwwowwww

Lost Art
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!! How crazy is this game???? Anyone have any doubt that Lebron is going to get a layup here or a foul call?

theuuord
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
I guess you missed the 18 Kobe put up in the 4th with a dead team strapped to his back.

i guess you missed the season that LeBron put up with an average team strapped to his back, too.

god, hes good. i love this game.




and rashard lewis answers back!

man, can we just stop whining about lebron-kobe for a bit and ENJOY where amazing happens!?

i.got.the.nutz
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
to all you kobe and laker haters: if you watched the game at all yesterday, kobe did not get the same calls lebron got today plain and simple. all of you complaining probably watched the highlights and not the real game.

ironkobe
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
YEs!!!!!! 1 more stop magics

koreancabbage
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
Travel for traveling- crab walk!!!

lakerboy
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
HOLY **** these games are awesome. I know the next possession LBJ is going to do something special. Watch out.

AmerTeam/KB24
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
ooooooo my goodness......:speechless: that was clutch, but too much time left 4 king james.....

koreancabbage
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
i mean called for traveling

Becks2307
05-20-2009, 11:23 PM
I love this game !