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JordansBulls
05-03-2009, 12:14 AM
(2) Denver Nuggets (54-28) vs. (6) Dallas Mavericks (50-32)


The Nuggets will have the Homecourt Advantage


Series Tied 0-0 Series Breakdown
(nba.com series page) (http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/art_garcia/04/30/breakdown.20090430/index.html)

Game 1 - Sun May 3rd, 2009 Dallas @ Denver (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/preview?gid=2009050307)



DENVER (AP)—Move over Tony Parker and Chris Paul. Make way for the old guards.

The second-round series between Dallas and Denver that begins Sunday at the Pepsi Center features two veteran floor leaders in point guards Jason Kidd, 36, of the Mavericks and Chauncey Billups, 32, of the Nuggets.

“Two old dogs,” Kenyon Martin said.

One great matchup, proclaimed Nuggets coach George Karl and Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle.

Kidd sent Parker packing along with the rest of the San Antonio Spurs, and Billups gave Paul and the New Orleans Hornets an early start on their summer break, too.

Billups and Kidd have met in the postseason before. Kidd’s Nets swept Billups’ Pistons in the 2003 Eastern Conference finals but bowed out to Detroit in the semifinals in ’04, when Billups got his ring.




REGULAR SEASON SERIES
Nuggets Won Series 4-0
November 7, 2008 Mavericks 105 @ Nuggets 108
December 15, 2008 Nuggets 98 @ Mavericks 88
January 13, 2009 Mavericks 97 @ Nuggets 99
March 27, 2009 Nuggets 103 @ Mavericks 101



http://s402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/KHinrich12/Team%20Logos/th_Nuggets.png Projected Starting Lineup

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PG - Chauncey Billups
SG - Dahntay Jones
SF - Carmelo Anthony
PF - Kenyon Martin
C - Nene Hilario




http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/KHinrich12/Team%20Logos/Mavericks.png Projected Starting Lineup

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PG - Jason Kidd
SG - Jose Juan Barea
SF - Josh Howard
PF - Dirk Nowitzki
C - Erick Dampier

IRUAM #21
05-03-2009, 12:15 AM
Denver, jeez i just noticed how close all there games were during the season. Maybe Dallas could steal this game.

AllTheWay
05-03-2009, 12:17 AM
Dever takes game 1 by 2.

lakers4sho
05-03-2009, 02:15 AM
Denver takes this one, won't be surprised if it will be a blowout (although it shouldn't be).

stawka
05-03-2009, 03:03 AM
Is anyone still saying Denver has no "D"?

I got Nuggets in 5 or 6. Billups = GOAT :P

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 03:21 AM
Is anyone still saying Denver has no "D"?

Only people who haven't watched them this season and are still judging them based on their past reputation.

GoatMilk
05-03-2009, 03:33 AM
mavs in 7

Nirvanaskurdt
05-03-2009, 04:22 AM
This series should be interesting.. I think the Nuggets win it in 6 :D

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 08:39 AM
Martin expects to go solo in defending Mavs' shooting star

Nuggets coach George Karl has friends on the San Antonio Spurs coaching staff, and they had one piece of advice for him in regard to guarding Dallas' do-everything forward Dirk Nowitzki.

"They doubled Nowitzki," Karl said. "And they told me not to."

Good thing for him he has Kenyon Martin, whose defensive legend seems to grow with each game. But even Martin, whose fast hands, quick feet and no-easy-shot mentality make him effective, will have his hands full here.

Nowitzki is just that good.

Nowitzki averaged 30 points and 11.3 rebounds per game against the Nuggets this season, including a 44-point, 14-rebound performance against the Nuggets on Jan. 13 at the Pepsi Center.

"I'll just go after him," Martin said. "Just make it as tough as possible on every play — holding, grabbing, pushing, whatever you can do. He's a great player. Like most guys who can score the ball, they like getting the ball where they are comfortable, they like doing the things they want to do. You have to try as much as you can to make them as uncomfortable as possible."

Martin made headlines during the Nuggets' first-round series against New Orleans by basically shutting down all-star forward David West by himself. West came into the series averaging 21 points on 47 percent shooting. He exited the five-game series with an average of 18 points on 40 percent shooting. Martin also kept him from dominating the boards. West's 8.6 rebounds per game in the regular season became 7.4 in the series.

Nowitzki's game is diverse. He can score from anywhere on the court and in a variety of ways — similar to Carmelo Anthony, except Nowitzki is a better shooter.

Nowitzki does most of his damage on the right side of the court. He'll post high, turn to face double teams, and likes to take the elbow or free-throw line extended midrange jumper. Or he'll screen and fade to the elbow jumper. If he's dribbling into a jumper, it's usually no more than two dribbles and a shot.

One of his favorite moves is a sweeping shot-fake to get rid of the defender, then taking an open jumper. If he's posted near the block with his back to the basket, he'll unleash one of the most unguardable fadeaway jump shots in the league.

If he catches the ball in the middle of the court, he can put the ball on the floor with either hand and finish at the rim. At 7 feet tall, there aren't many players who can successfully challenge his shot at the hoop. The majority of his drives in the half court come from the middle of the floor or the baseline. He'll finish baseline drives with dunks.

"Of the 85 or 90 possessions, about 30 are going to be in his hands," Karl said.

If he's at the 3-point line, he'll take the shot. And at 35.9 percent shooting from the arc, he's effective from there as well. However, he hit only 12.5 percent from the 3-point line during the Mavericks' series against San Antonio as the Spurs ran multiple guys at him to keep him off-balance.

Martin's challenge is to stop all of that. At least, slow it down.

According to Karl, Martin will guard Nowitzki the most, but Nene will see time on the former league MVP as well. There won't be a lot of trickery to how the Nuggets approach defending Nowitzki.

"We can pressure his catch," Karl said. "We can maybe switch his catch some to disrupt it. But it's pretty hard to keep the ball out of his hands."

Anthony said he has no worries Martin is the right man to slow Nowitzki down.

"He's got so many things he can do on the court. He can shoot it from deep, he can post up; regardless of how close you are to him, it's hard to block his shot," Anthony said. "But I'm pretty sure Kenyon is going to do a (heckuva) job. As a team, we're going to do our best."



Kenyon vs. Dirk

Kenyon's feet vs. Dirk's drive

Nowitzki has the quickness of a much smaller player and can use either hand to dribble past his defender to the basket. Martin is quick enough to stay with most guards. He has the ability to move and cut off quick drives.

Kenyon's athleticism vs. Dirk's jump shot

Nowitzki has a nearly unblockable jumper because of his 7-foot frame and shooting motion, and employs numerous ways to get it off — shot fakes, pull-up jumpers, fadeaways. Martin has the length to contest jump shots of bigger players and the athleticism to make it tough for a player such as Nowitzki to get clean looks.

Kenyon's mental game vs. Dirk's relentlessness

Like all great players, Nowitzki keeps putting pressure on the defense, no matter if he starts hot, or not. It's rare to see him mentally check out of a game when things aren't going well. Martin, too, has shown the ability to stay with the game plan, even if an opposing player is scoring in bunches. He knows one play can turn a game, or save a game late. Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_12282112?source=rss)


I think the mere fact that Denver can probably afford to man up a single defender on Dirk and not stop him but constrain him enough to prevent too much damage is pretty significant. Some of the other scorers on the Mavs thrive on the floor spacing that's created for them when opponents double Dirk, and if the Nuggets don't need to do that, and instead can crowd and harass them a little better, then it bodes well for the effectiveness of our defensive schemes. Meanwhile, I think on the other side Dallas simply doesn't have the defensive answers for our scorers that we have for theirs.

Man, I sure wish the first game would get underway already so we could stop pontificating about this stuff and just see how it plays out on the court... Game 1 to Denver, with 2 or 3 close quarters but a run in the second half that results in an 8-10 point win.

bahama0811
05-03-2009, 11:56 AM
Should be tight for most of the game but Nuggs pull away in the 4th quarter.

aWiLL 20
05-03-2009, 12:23 PM
Denver, jeez i just noticed how close all there games were during the season. Maybe Dallas could steal this game.

and two of those games were without josh howard :)

i hope dallas keeps flyin under the radar...thats right where we want to be :)

i can guarantee this, along with kenyon sayin he's got dirk one on one (dirk can't be stopped 1v1 lol), the mavs are not the least bit intimidated in this series

m26555
05-03-2009, 12:35 PM
The Mavericks steal game one.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 02:13 PM
I think this game means a lot more to Dallas than Denver, the question is if the Mavs will play like it.

NBA_Starter
05-03-2009, 02:45 PM
Denver takes Game 1 by 9.

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 03:35 PM
and two of those games were without josh howard :)

i hope dallas keeps flyin under the radar...thats right where we want to be :)

i can guarantee this, along with kenyon sayin he's got dirk one on one (dirk can't be stopped 1v1 lol), the mavs are not the least bit intimidated in this series

In one of those games Nene was also out.

And we'll just have to wait and see how the K-Mart/Dirk matchup plays out. Obviously Mavs fans think Nugs fans are underestimating Dirk's dirkness, but of course we know that you're underestimating Kenyon's baddassitude, so we'll just see who gets the upper hand. :cool:

And FWIW, I'd define K-Mart as getting the upper hand primarily as if his fg% is held down to the 43-44% range or lower. I don't think it's realistic to expect him not to get his points, but what I do expect to see is that his efficiency and effectiveness compared to usual is hampered.

Sportfan
05-03-2009, 03:37 PM
the title says round 1 :p

nuggets in 6

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 03:43 PM
Damn, JJ Barea just caught a forearm shiver and no call, lol. I guess thats how they will let them play. Hope it goes at both ends.

Joshtd1
05-03-2009, 03:45 PM
God Dirk is a beast. So unstoppable

Brooke
05-03-2009, 03:45 PM
well that was just dumb by Hollins

Dirk is off to a good start

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 03:46 PM
If the refs are gonna let Denvers off guards play like this, JJ can't play in this series, put in Wright, and lets get physical.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 03:46 PM
Thats a ****in flagrant 2, toss him. Thats ****in rediculous

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 03:47 PM
Dirty ****in play, should be tossed from this game and suspended the next.

Joshtd1
05-03-2009, 03:47 PM
And thats why I've never liked Martin

Brooke
05-03-2009, 03:47 PM
he just proved why I have never liked him

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 03:48 PM
And thats why I've never liked Martin

I agree, thats just a classless play. He fouled him all posession, and then threw an elbow once the whistle blew. That's a flagrant 2 to me, trying to cause harm to a player. I hope Dallas doesn't lower themselves to that level, I'd rather lose than play that garbage.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 03:49 PM
Only a TECH? no Flagrant, what a joke.

m26555
05-03-2009, 03:50 PM
Martin is just mad because Nowitzki is burning them..

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 03:50 PM
That was a really stupid move by K-Mart.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 03:52 PM
Dirk getting KILLED and no whistle, ****ing garbage

m26555
05-03-2009, 03:52 PM
Hollins going at Carmelo..good for him. Melo was holding his arm.

Joshtd1
05-03-2009, 03:52 PM
Looks like were gonna have a chippy series already.

m26555
05-03-2009, 03:52 PM
I guess they're still the Thuggets...

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 03:53 PM
Hollins can't play under control, take him out, put in Bass or Singleton

m26555
05-03-2009, 03:53 PM
Dallas is looking very good early on.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 03:55 PM
Ugh Howard, gotta make those

m26555
05-03-2009, 03:55 PM
Nice move by K-Mart.

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 03:56 PM
Well, we're playing pretty crappy and only down 5, I can live with that.

I guess Dirk can take 3 steps whenever he likes and they'll let it slide...

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:00 PM
Guess they can push Dirk on every shot.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:01 PM
That's a purposeful no call, refs are going to allow a low body push on every shot I guess.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:04 PM
At least Dallas has a Flagrant foul in their pocket they can use as just a tech.

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 04:07 PM
At least Dallas has a Flagrant foul in their pocket they can use as just a tech.

Or in other words, Ericka's gonna put Chauncey on his back when he goes in for a layup?

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 04:08 PM
Make that J.R. Smith, not Chauncey.

lakers4sho
05-03-2009, 04:09 PM
Well, we're playing pretty crappy and only down 5, I can live with that.

I guess Dirk can take 3 steps whenever he likes and they'll let it slide...

it's a crab dribble, so I guess that's fine :p

lakers4sho
05-03-2009, 04:10 PM
Howard looks hurt...that's not good for Dallas

Brooke
05-03-2009, 04:10 PM
not good Howard is down

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:10 PM
Another no call and Howard gets hurt, refs on top of their game today.

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 04:10 PM
Wow, I hope Josh Howard isn't hurt.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:11 PM
Well thats the series, good win Denver.

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 04:12 PM
Another no call and Howard gets hurt, refs on top of their game today.

You think the officiating is going Denver's way, you're crazy. No worse no call in this game than Billups getting mauled going up for a layup, no worse call than the non-foul on Melo when he went for the steal, and they're calling a walk on Nene but letting Dirk stroll all over the place.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:14 PM
I really don't like Brandon Bass, wish we would play Singleton

Brooke
05-03-2009, 04:15 PM
that must be a good sign, Howard is coming back

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:16 PM
WOW, we can't touch anyone without a call. Melo runs into no room and gets bailed.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:17 PM
The fans boo? LMAO Smith is all over Dirk, then as Smith goes down he throws an arm at Dirks head.

Corey
05-03-2009, 04:19 PM
I love Denver's energy.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:20 PM
These Denver fans boo every call, lmao. Do they not know their team plays physical?

_Sn1P3r_
05-03-2009, 04:20 PM
Birdman is great. A great energy guy off the bench.

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 04:23 PM
These Denver fans boo every HORRIBLE call

Fixed. :cool:

Seriously, 2 of Melo's 3 should not even have been called. Refs taking him out of the game for nothing. Yeah, it merits a "Boooo!".

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:28 PM
Dallas decided to not play any defense this quarter I see. Dampier needs to come out of the game.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:28 PM
Howard and Dampier too slow on defense, it;s killing us.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:29 PM
RICK MEMO: Denver is athletic, play some one like Singleton who can run with NeNe!

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 04:30 PM
Nene's post moves are looking sharp tonight. I hope he can continue to take advantage of the Dampier matchup through this series.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:33 PM
Nene's post moves are looking sharp tonight. I hope he can continue to take advantage of the Dampier matchup through this series.

NeNe is lookin good,. I think Dallas has to try something else on him. Singleton makes sense, but haven't seen him.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:34 PM
I think George Karl should get tats like birdman, smith, and nene

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:38 PM
Thats a terrible CALL!

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:38 PM
Bass can't get away with the push like Denver is on Dirk.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:40 PM
Mavs will not win this series if they keep missing FT, it's a must

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:41 PM
Another no call. Dirk is getting just pounded in the lane, and they call ticky tack **** on Dallas on the other end. It's getting old.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:42 PM
This is sickening officiating, Dirk got pounded all quarter. I guess if they are going to let Denver play like this, we might as well hand them the series now refs.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 04:44 PM
This looks like the 06 finals in the first half. The other team is going to shoot triple the FT while Dirk gets pounded in the lane, o yeah I forgot tho, Dirk doesn't get calls b/c he doesn't drive, lmao.

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 04:45 PM
Denver up by 4 at the half, with our two leading scorers combining for 7 points. I can live with that.

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 04:46 PM
And Y2K, there have been just as many bad calls that have gone Dallas' way. They flat out got outplayed in the 2nd quarter, and Denver flat out got outplayed in the first. The officiating is bad both ways, but it's really not deciding this game.

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 04:55 PM
6 a.m. here in Japan... woke up at 4:15 to watch this game... ugh, I'm tired... at least the beer takes the edge off. :cool:

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 04:59 PM
Did I seriously just watch a commercial about Jack in the Box having a treatment for menopause symptoms? WTF?

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 05:02 PM
I guess the superstars dont ALWAYS get the calls. Dirk would kill for the one's nene, anderson, and smith are getting.

Brooke
05-03-2009, 05:04 PM
Mavs better be careful, Melo is coming out more aggressive and Denver could make a huge run here....

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 05:05 PM
Dallas needs to push it at Melo

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 05:06 PM
Dhante Jones just elbowed barea in the face

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 05:06 PM
Thats gotta be a charge or a block, call one refs

Brooke
05-03-2009, 05:09 PM
and just as I say that Mavs go on a run

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 05:09 PM
OMG where is the foul there? Dirk can't get that call, and Nene gets that ****?

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 05:11 PM
I'm just gonna shut up about the refs, thats just the way they are gonna call it, and we have to overcome that as well.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 05:11 PM
Bass in the game, ugh

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 05:13 PM
Denver really needs to clamp down on their perimeter/transition D.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 05:16 PM
Every time down the floor there is a whistle on our end, yet they disappear on our offensive end, I'm trying to keep quiet, but this is frustrating. Denver in the penalty with 6 minutes left is rediculous.

Chronz
05-03-2009, 05:16 PM
Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_12282112?source=rss)


I think the mere fact that Denver can probably afford to man up a single defender on Dirk and not stop him but constrain him enough to prevent too much damage is pretty significant. Some of the other scorers on the Mavs thrive on the floor spacing that's created for them when opponents double Dirk, and if the Nuggets don't need to do that, and instead can crowd and harass them a little better, then it bodes well for the effectiveness of our defensive schemes. Meanwhile, I think on the other side Dallas simply doesn't have the defensive answers for our scorers that we have for theirs.

Man, I sure wish the first game would get underway already so we could stop pontificating about this stuff and just see how it plays out on the court... Game 1 to Denver, with 2 or 3 close quarters but a run in the second half that results in an 8-10 point win.

Good write up, this is playing out exactly like Lakers-Rockets.

m26555
05-03-2009, 05:23 PM
What is Anthony arguing about? He wrecked Nowitzki on that shot.

m26555
05-03-2009, 05:24 PM
Kidd making some uncharacteristically bad passes.

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 05:27 PM
There's my Nuggets. :cool:

m26555
05-03-2009, 05:28 PM
That was a huge shot by Wright to stop the bleeding.

m26555
05-03-2009, 05:28 PM
There's my Nuggets. :cool:
When they go on runs, they GO ON RUNS. It's unbelievable.

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 05:33 PM
That was a huge shot by Wright to stop the bleeding.

:laugh2: Yeah, lucky bastard, that ****ing sucked.

But I think we're seeing some support in this game to one of my arguments why the Nugs have the upper hand in this series, which is that we just have too wide a range and too many offensive weapons for Dallas to answer for. In this game, Billups and Melo have combined for just 15 points after 3 quarters, whereas they usually combine for 41 on average in the regular season. And the Nuggets are up 7.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 05:35 PM
Mavs just can't close quarters. It's killed them all season, and it's doing it again today.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 05:36 PM
we need a classic 4th from Jet

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 05:37 PM
Dallas has done what they want with Melo and Billups, the bench has to step up. Anderson blocks shots, but his body is all over Terry there.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 05:39 PM
Dallas cuts it down and can't get over the hump, tough loss to swallow. 30 FT attempts to 11, and Dirk has been in the lane all game. It's pretty sad he can't get one ****ing call.

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 05:41 PM
One reason it's hard for visitors to win in the Pepsi Center: attrition. Denver just grinds and grinds the whole game, and it tends to wear opponents down.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 05:43 PM
Wright you idiot, where is Barea?

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 05:44 PM
This ones over, good game Denver.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 05:47 PM
Anderson drapped on Dirks back, no call. Same **** all game.

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 05:48 PM
wOOOOOOt! :clap:

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 05:49 PM
Refs allowed Denver to hack all game, and it caught up with Dallas in the 4th when they quit making shots. I mean I guess quit driving the ball if the refs aren't going to give you a call.

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 05:50 PM
Oh please stop complaining about the refs! Denver got a lot of crap calls too. Dallas is getting outplayed, plain and simple.

Young2Kinsler
05-03-2009, 05:50 PM
Denver has only shot 19 more FT, not that lopsidded refs, keep it up. Get it to 30!

MiamiHeat
05-03-2009, 06:05 PM
Nuggets are playing great basketball, Billups changed this team so much :clap:
I see them winning this series in 5 or 6 games

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 06:08 PM
Denver has only shot 19 more FT

Who gives a crap? Dallas wasn't doing **** in the paint, they were taking jumpers all night long. Denver was more aggressive, more physical, tougher... and better. Good game, man, but if you think the refs handed it to the Nuggets, then you need to wipe off your goggles.

aWiLL 20
05-03-2009, 06:17 PM
very physical game, the free throw descrepicency was sickening...dirk got raped more than a few times inside and didnt get the call..this is going to be a great series...mavs will bounce back

DenButsu
05-03-2009, 06:22 PM
Why is it that the fans of the team that's had a lot more success in the playoffs don't seem to appreciate the fact that this is playoff basketball? Seriously. Is it because of having too many series against teams like the Suns? Shouldn't be, I guess, since the Mavs have played the Spurs a lot, too. But come on. Denver got a lot of bull**** calls against them, too. But this isn't game 17 of the regular season. This is the playoffs. The refs are going to (as they should) let the teams play. It's not the Nuggets' fault that Dallas is soft. Under Billups and K-Mart's defensive leadership, Denver has carved out an Eastern Conference style defensive identity, and probably a lot of other teams in the West aren't really used to dealing with that. But the Mavs are going to have to toughen up and be more aggressive if they want to win this series, because Denver won't be letting its foot off the throttle anytime soon.

lakers4sho
05-03-2009, 06:45 PM
good win for Denver

Game_Over
05-03-2009, 06:47 PM
Imagine if Melo and Chauncey had good games??

bahama0811
05-03-2009, 07:24 PM
Damn, if you read all these posts you'd think the Mavs didn't get a call the whole game. Stop your crying. The Nuggets are a physical team and the Mavs just didn't match the physical play. The Nuggets played solid D and the K-Mart vs. Dirk matchup is gonna be fun to watch. Dirk is a beast and will get his points. The refs missed calls on both ends of the court. The Nugs have averaged 30 FT's all season. This is nothing new. Get over and play ball.

NBA_Starter
05-03-2009, 07:35 PM
Good win Denver, only 3 wins away from getting the Lakers!

Dirk4theW1n
05-04-2009, 10:10 AM
Why is it that the fans of the team that's had a lot more success in the playoffs don't seem to appreciate the fact that this is playoff basketball? Seriously. Is it because of having too many series against teams like the Suns? Shouldn't be, I guess, since the Mavs have played the Spurs a lot, too. But come on. Denver got a lot of bull**** calls against them, too. But this isn't game 17 of the regular season. This is the playoffs. The refs are going to (as they should) let the teams play. It's not the Nuggets' fault that Dallas is soft. Under Billups and K-Mart's defensive leadership, Denver has carved out an Eastern Conference style defensive identity, and probably a lot of other teams in the West aren't really used to dealing with that. But the Mavs are going to have to toughen up and be more aggressive if they want to win this series, because Denver won't be letting its foot off the throttle anytime soon.

But thats the thing, they didn't. Every time someone would do so much as give a mean look to one of the denver players there was a foul call, where as when dirk gets the ball drives to the basket and has players hold his arms back and the refs would then "let them play". Its tough to be aggressive when you are not going to get any calls and only get punished by being hacked to death...

JayW_1023
05-04-2009, 10:16 AM
Just as I thought...a long, scrappy, lively body like Andersen gives Dirk troubles. Birdman guarded Dirk just about as good as anyone can.

DenButsu
05-04-2009, 10:19 AM
But thats the thing, they didn't. Every time someone would do so much as give a mean look to one of the denver players there was a foul call, where as when dirk gets the ball drives to the basket and has players hold his arms back and the refs would then "let them play". Its tough to be aggressive when you are not going to get any calls and only get punished by being hacked to death...

Oh, please. Melo (as you well know) was in foul trouble from the 1st quarter with 3, 2 of which were complete bull**** calls. And we got plenty of other crap calls, too. And Dallas wasn't doing a damn thing in the paint. Jumper, jumper, jumper. Denver was playing more aggressively, and finishing stronger, and execution pays.

You should listen to what Dirk himself said in the post game presser. He knows what he's talking about:
http://www.nba.com/playoffs2009/seriesWest6/

DenButsu
05-04-2009, 10:56 AM
Just as I thought...a long, scrappy, lively body like Andersen gives Dirk troubles. Birdman guarded Dirk just about as good as anyone can.

That was a revelation for me. His defensive contributions are usually in the help and block/alter departments. That's by far the best man-on defense I've seen him play (or at least equals it), and for that to be done against such a difficult assignment as Dirk is really something. Whether he can sustain it over the series remains to be seen, but I was impressed with that one outing at least.

JayW_1023
05-04-2009, 11:10 AM
That was a revelation for me. His defensive contributions are usually in the help and block/alter departments. That's by far the best man-on defense I've seen him play (or at least equals it), and for that to be done against such a difficult assignment as Dirk is really something. Whether he can sustain it over the series remains to be seen, but I was impressed with that one outing at least.

Dirk is a finesse player and usually exploits his matchup with either his length, with that catapult fade away J or post up and use his quickness to drive along the baseline.

Versus Andersen Dirk has no real physical advantage he can exploit. He is too quick for Nene, too tall for K-Mart or Balkman to bother his shot much. But Andersen is quick AND tall plus freakishly athletic too.

As a result, Dirk has to rely more on his bag of tricks to create his offense and as a result he struggles with Andersen. The one time when he did come through against Andersen, the bird dude bought enough time for Nene to provide weakside help and block Dirks lay-up attempt.

Carlisle should use alot of high post screen and rolls in Game 2 to create favourable mismatches for Dirk whenever Birdman is on him...because I can see Dirk struggling alot more if Birdman can sustain that defensive effort.

DenButsu
05-04-2009, 09:24 PM
As just a kind of side point, I really love how every single dude on the Nuggets has stepped up to contribute when others are struggling. In this game, Melo and Billups combined for only 7 points in the first half, but Nene scored 18. In game 1 against New Orleans, Melo scored just 13 but Billups got his career high in 3s for 36 points. Anthony Carter, Dahntay Jones and Chris Anderson are playing at the highest levels of their careers (especially on the defensive end). Gone are the Nuggets where if one strand got loose the whole sweater unraveled. This - finally - is a team's team.