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DenButsu
04-16-2009, 01:43 AM
(2) Denver Nuggets (54-28) vs. (7) New Orleans Hornets (49-33)


The Nuggets will have the Homecourt Advantage


Denver Wins Series 4-1 Series Breakdown



REGULAR SEASON SERIES
Season Series Tied 2-2
Nov. 27: Hornets 105 at Nuggets 101
Jan. 3: at Nuggets 105, Hornets 100
Jan. 28: at Hornets 94, Nuggets 81
Mar. 25: Nuggets 101 at Hornets 88

Game 1 - Denver 113 New Orleans 84 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=Aha6R65_Y9zGfixg.WQk8su8vLYF?gid=200 9041907)
Game 2 - Denver 108 New Orleans 93 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=AsHGoOMpkvfWZm8K.mn_qLm8vLYF?gid=200 9042207)
Game 3 - New Orleans 95 Denver 93 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=Ap.9TLaoidD_nnE8TPe31bC8vLYF?gid=200 9042503)
Game 4 - Denver 121 New Orleans 63 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2009042703)
Game 5 - Denver 107 New Orleans 86 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=Avvit0FaOC4SRvApf_TpCfm8vLYF?gid=200 9042907)



http://s402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/KHinrich12/Team%20Logos/th_Nuggets.png Projected Starting Lineup

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PG - Chauncey Billups
SG - Dahntay Jones
SF - Carmelo Anthony
PF - Kenyon Martin
C - Nene Hilario




http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp109/KHinrich12/Team%20Logos/Hornets.png Projected Starting Lineup

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PG - Chris Paul
SG - Rasual Butler
SF - Peja Stojakovic
PF - David West
C - Tyson Chandler



Who will win this Western Conference 1st Round Series?

abe_froman
04-16-2009, 01:53 AM
this one's going to be the most exciting to watch ,goes 7.......to denver..with a last sec shot by billups:D

DaaBoTownSox
04-16-2009, 01:58 AM
I see this going to Denver in 6.

superkegger
04-16-2009, 01:59 AM
A gimpy chandler doesn't bode well, plus absolutely no bench. It will be a great series, but I don't think the Hornets can pull this one out.

DenButsu
04-16-2009, 02:27 AM
I was going to get a little cocky and vote Denver in 5, but I'll have to keep it real and acknowledge that both CP3 and Peja can give the Nuggets some headaches... so in 6, then.

Game_Over
04-16-2009, 02:37 AM
I voted Denver in 6 also, I think we can get out of the first round for once lol!!

AIMelo=KillaDUO
04-16-2009, 02:43 AM
D TOWN! in 6!

THE MTL
04-16-2009, 03:11 AM
Chris paul! Chris paul! Chris paul! Chris paul!

DenButsu
04-16-2009, 03:19 AM
Chris paul! Chris paul! Chris paul! Chris paul!

The Denver backcourt has learned how to do a pretty solid defensive job on him by now. Of course, he's a transcendent player who can at times simply rise above even a great defensive effort, and he'll probably manage to do that once or twice in this series. But overall, I think the Nuggets can do an good enough containment job on him to limit his effectiveness and his ability to completely take over games consistently enough to pull this series out in less than 7. And if you look at both teams' trajectories this season, Denver's has been one of improvement, while NOH's has been one of at best stagnation and at worst decline. The Nuggets legitimately hold the upper hand here, imho, and not just because of hca.

Lakersfan2483
04-16-2009, 03:20 AM
Sorry DenButsu, but I have to pick the Hornets to pull the upset and win in 7 games. I am expecting CP3 to step up and play some big time basketball.

hotdogbun
04-16-2009, 03:24 AM
voted nuggets in 7

BigEric
04-16-2009, 03:29 AM
Hornets in 6.

pippsux
04-16-2009, 03:32 AM
Hornets in 6.

People forget Billups showed his age in Detroit against quicker point guards. He has been big for Denver, but too much CP3. CP3 should have field day.

shep33
04-16-2009, 03:39 AM
I wanna say NOH wins in 7 just b/c of Chris Paul... but... I'll take Denver in 7

Raidaz4Life
04-16-2009, 03:45 AM
This is actually the match up that I have no remote idea.... I picked NOH in 7 but a sweep by either side would not surprise me the least bit

DenButsu
04-16-2009, 03:51 AM
Hornets in 6.

People forget Billups showed his age in Detroit against quicker point guards. He has been big for Denver, but too much CP3. CP3 should have field day.

Did you actually watch any of the Nuggets-Hornets games this season?

rabueed
04-16-2009, 04:38 AM
I was going to get a little cocky and vote Denver in 5, but I'll have to keep it real and acknowledge that both CP3 and Peja can give the Nuggets some headaches... so in 6, then.

it's ok, I went cocky for ya, Denver in 5.

CP3 can't do it by himself, or even with David West.

1st game - DEN

2nd game - DEN

3rd game - NOH

4th game - DEN

5th game - DEN

JayW_1023
04-16-2009, 05:46 AM
Another awesome series...besides Lakers-Jazz, each of the West playoff series can go either way.

I think the Nuggets will win because they have a much more potent frontcourt. Their bench depth will prove the difference in this series, as NOH lack that kind of depth off the pine.

CP3 will be sensational and it will be tough for the Nuggets to contain...but in the end home court advantage for Denver in game 7 will prove the Hornets fatal.

JordansBulls
04-16-2009, 08:16 AM
Nuggets in 7

jimbobjarree
04-16-2009, 08:56 AM
Hornets in 6, you wont be able to handle a playoff intensity Chris Paul

IrespectNumber3
04-16-2009, 08:59 AM
I cant decide but this series will be the most exciting...It's going to go to 7 games...I just don't know who

kingofkings313
04-16-2009, 09:36 AM
CP3 will dominate, but his team wont show up! I expect a lot from Melo and Smith in this series...So Denver in 6!

theimortalone
04-16-2009, 09:40 AM
I said New Orleans in 6. CP3 and David West will dominate the Nuggets. New Orleans will win the series in 6 at home.

x_notorious
04-16-2009, 10:29 AM
Hornets in 6. Billups vs. Pau will be fun to watch and you know Posey is going to be all over Carmelo. What it comes down to is Martin + Nene vs. West and Chandler. Which ever set of big men has a better series, their respective team wins.

JayW_1023
04-16-2009, 10:36 AM
Hornets in 6. Billups vs. Pau will be fun to watch and you know Posey is going to be all over Carmelo. What it comes down to is Martin + Nene vs. West and Chandler. Which ever set of big men has a better series, their respective team wins.

Martin is a dangerous post defender, so West will not have it easy at all. Martin is also better at running the floor so if Paul pushes the ball it'll be a challenge for West to stay in front of K-Mart. Meanwhile Nene is a legit post scorer and though Chandler is a great weakside helper, he is foul prone when he has to defend someone straight up. The Nuggets have the superior frontcourt on both ends...and their edge in depth will pay dividends.

jimbobjarree
04-16-2009, 10:42 AM
as long as Posey is all over Melo this will be a very close entertaining series, one that I will definatly try to watch the majority of since I dont really care much sas-dal, maybe I'll watch a lil of the blazers-rox

still1ballin
04-16-2009, 11:50 AM
hornets in 7

DrDEADalready
04-16-2009, 11:54 AM
New Orleans in 6.

Fool
04-16-2009, 11:57 AM
Nuggets pull off a tough series in 7.

pf289
04-16-2009, 12:11 PM
HAHAHAHA the Nuggets will always be a joke. Hornets with the "upset" in 6.

IBleedPurple
04-16-2009, 12:15 PM
Hornets in 6.

People forget Billups showed his age in Detroit against quicker point guards. He has been big for Denver, but too much CP3. CP3 should have field day.

The Nuggets were able to shut down Paul better than almost anyone in the league this season. He will definitely raise his intensity for the playoffs, but Chauncey has played him very well head-to-head.

I think with Denver having the more potent frontcourt, and a better bench, they take it in 5 or 6. Chandler will play Nene well, but a physical series will not help his injuries heal any faster. If Denver can play good perimeter defense and dominate in the paint, they win.

still1ballin
04-16-2009, 12:22 PM
HAHAHAHA the Nuggets will always be a joke. Hornets with the "upset" in 6.

Its not really an upset if Hornets advance

todu82
04-16-2009, 12:25 PM
Nuggets in 6

dre1990
04-16-2009, 12:58 PM
Denver in 6

LA_Raiders
04-16-2009, 01:00 PM
Den in 7 HCA....

JordansBulls
04-16-2009, 01:08 PM
Its not really an upset if Hornets advance

Sure it is an upset. Denver has the #2 seed and New Orleans the #7 seed.

It might not be much of an upset if both teams are the same seed like if two top seeds go at it. But the general rule is that if you have HCA you should win.

LayZbone
04-16-2009, 01:42 PM
This is the series I'm most excited about (besides Heat-Hawks).

I have no clue who's going to win it. It's going to be great.

Kakaroach
04-16-2009, 02:51 PM
Should be a good series. Nuggets in 7 though.

Joshtd1
04-16-2009, 02:58 PM
Sure it is an upset. Denver has the #2 seed and New Orleans the #7 seed.

It might not be much of an upset if both teams are the same seed like if two top seeds go at it. But the general rule is that if you have HCA you should win.

I disagree. This year the West is tough enough, that any teams with lower seeds (except if the Jazz beat the Lakers) that it wouldnt be an upset IMO.

Joshtd1
04-16-2009, 02:59 PM
Anyway I think the Nuggets will win.

Lakergirl24
04-16-2009, 03:45 PM
Denver in 6

jimbobjarree
04-16-2009, 03:54 PM
the WCF will be the winner of this game against the Lakers IMO

coryd238
04-16-2009, 04:48 PM
Nuggets in 6

DreamShaker
04-16-2009, 04:59 PM
I was going to get a little cocky and vote Denver in 5, but I'll have to keep it real and acknowledge that both CP3 and Peja can give the Nuggets some headaches... so in 6, then.

I agree. Every player on the Hornets has been playing worse than last year.

GrandDaddyPurp
04-16-2009, 05:19 PM
chris paul cannot be stopped. hornets in 6 or 7.

NBA_Starter
04-16-2009, 06:23 PM
Denver in 6, Billups will be the difference.

ATX
04-16-2009, 06:43 PM
Come on Hornets!!

n7

cmellofan15
04-16-2009, 06:46 PM
Nuggs - 6

AllTheWay
04-16-2009, 07:13 PM
Nuggets in 7. Two best point guards going at it.

Kakaroach
04-16-2009, 07:15 PM
the WCF will be the winner of this game against the Lakers IMO x2 Thats what I filled out on my bracket at least lol.

Rome
04-16-2009, 07:46 PM
I got Denver in 6 as well. Billups and Melo will be too much. Throw Nene, birdman, Smith.

It'll be a good series for sure.

IversonIsKrazy
04-16-2009, 07:46 PM
CP3 will dominate the Nugz. And Nuggets still dont got a real post presence, and hornets will have David West playing huge. Tyson will play ALRITE, not bad neither, will play just good enough to have hornets be pretty close to rebounds with nuggets. Overall i c CP3 being AMAZING, and help the hornets to win.

Hornets in 6.

AirJordan23
04-16-2009, 07:55 PM
I believe the Dallas/Nuggets series was the best match up for Denver. They're still favored over NOH but it'd be a pretty tough series that could be decided on some key match ups. I'd say the most important match up is KMart and David West. West has an excellent mid-range, post up game. He's not very skilled in the post but he's good on those turnaround and fadeaway Js. So, KMart has to do the best job and contest shots every time. Another factor would be to keep Chandler off the offensive boards, so Nene has to do a good job boxing out. Chandler is one of the league leaders in offensive rebounding due to great positioning, awareness and instincts. I believe Paul would get his regardless of the defense thrown at him. They can alternate with Jones and Billups. Jones would match up better due to his quickness, athleticism. He's that hard nosed defender. Billups tends to struggle a bit against guards who are really good at penetrating and Paul's one of the best at that. Not to worry though, Chauncey can guards SGs since he has the size. Melo and Posey is another one, I believe Peja will receive limited minutes due to a bad back and his Js too off. Posey, on the other hand plays great defense and is money in the clutch. If he can play Melo like he did LeBron last year, Melo would be limited to some extent. Bench is where the Nuggets have a clearcut edge, Hornets' bench consists off mainly hustle guys who bring in energy like Ely. Not really any offensive threat other than Posey. Nugz have a great bench, Smith great scorer, Kleiza can shoot as well, Andersen's a great shot blocker.

I see them taking this series in 7.

bahama0811
04-16-2009, 08:03 PM
Nuggets in 6. Sure, Chris Paul and David West are good but they can't beat the Nuggets by themselves. The Nuggs bench is deep and I don't think the Hornets can deal with it.

KG2TB
04-16-2009, 08:06 PM
GREEEAT MATCHUP. I'm looking forward to this one. Chauncey on CP3...that's good stuff right there. Peja's going to have to really show up big time, and of course David West. Tyson better rebound and be a factor down low.

I voted Hornets in 6. Paul is going to show everyone how truly special he is because Denver has more talent, and is much deeper. This is coming from one of CP3's biggest fans, but my money is on the Hornets...6 or 7 games.

jrivera
04-16-2009, 08:23 PM
I voted for the Nugs by game 6. No AI this time the Nuggies will make it outta the 1st round..

what54!?
04-16-2009, 08:32 PM
I got the hornets pulling off the upset in 7...

DenButsu
04-16-2009, 08:46 PM
I believe the Dallas/Nuggets series was the best match up for Denver. They're still favored over NOH but it'd be a pretty tough series that could be decided on some key match ups. I'd say the most important match up is KMart and David West. West has an excellent mid-range, post up game. He's not very skilled in the post but he's good on those turnaround and fadeaway Js. So, KMart has to do the best job and contest shots every time. Another factor would be to keep Chandler off the offensive boards, so Nene has to do a good job boxing out. Chandler is one of the league leaders in offensive rebounding due to great positioning, awareness and instincts. I believe Paul would get his regardless of the defense thrown at him. They can alternate with Jones and Billups. Jones would match up better due to his quickness, athleticism. He's that hard nosed defender. Billups tends to struggle a bit against guards who are really good at penetrating and Paul's one of the best at that. Not to worry though, Chauncey can guards SGs since he has the size. Melo and Posey is another one, I believe Peja will receive limited minutes due to a bad back and his Js too off. Posey, on the other hand plays great defense and is money in the clutch. If he can play Melo like he did LeBron last year, Melo would be limited to some extent. Bench is where the Nuggets have a clearcut edge, Hornets' bench consists off mainly hustle guys who bring in energy like Ely. Not really any offensive threat other than Posey. Nugz have a great bench, Smith great scorer, Kleiza can shoot as well, Andersen's a great shot blocker.

I see them taking this series in 7.

I think Denver will win in less than 7, but that's a really good post.

DenButsu
04-16-2009, 08:59 PM
chris paul cannot be stopped.

His effectiveness can be limited. Sure, there will be stretches of at least a couple games where he'll completely take over, I'm sure, because he is just good enough to do that. But if you look at his stat line against Denver last time:


STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
Chris Paul, PG 40 5-11 0-1 9-10 1 5 6 13 2 0 6 1 -19 19

The two things that Denver did really well in defending him were a) getting the ball out of his hands (those 6 turnovers were not unforced), and b) denying him easy access to the paint and easy buckets (only 11 field goals attempted). The rotation put on CP3 of Billups, Carter, and Jones (nearly always helped by someone doubling) did a great job in holding him off at the perimeter and limiting his ability to play his usual game. Yes, he still got 13 assists, but many of those were assists he settled for due to being left with no other options rather than assists he engineered in his usual commanding way.

I don't for a minute underestimate Paul, but I've seen him face up against the Nuggets' defense, and I'm confident they can at least contain him to the extent that the damage he can do is limited enough to open up the door for the Nuggets to finish off some games - more games than New Orleans.

cmellofan15
04-16-2009, 09:10 PM
CP3 will dominate the Nugz. And Nuggets still dont got a real post presence, and hornets will have David West playing huge. Tyson will play ALRITE, not bad neither, will play just good enough to have hornets be pretty close to rebounds with nuggets. Overall i c CP3 being AMAZING, and help the hornets to win.

Hornets in 6.

:rolleyes:

No, absolutely not, the Nuggets have already prevented Paul from taking over the games before. David West won't be spectacular, and won't out-board the Nuggets because he flat out can't. Tyson Chandler and Chris Paul are the only rebounding threats against the Nuggets and that's obviously not good enough. Add in the fact nobody can stick JR or Melo, and you get us winning the series.

DenButsu
04-16-2009, 09:47 PM
:rolleyes:

No, absolutely not, the Nuggets have already prevented Paul from taking over the games before. David West won't be spectacular, and won't out-board the Nuggets because he flat out can't. Tyson Chandler and Chris Paul are the only rebounding threats against the Nuggets and that's obviously not good enough. Add in the fact nobody can stick JR or Melo, and you get us winning the series.

I don't think he's ever forgiven the Nuggets for trading away AI (he disappeared from the Nuggets forum after that happened). I think the subtext of his post is probably, "Denver can't get out of the first round without Iverson."

BTownTeamsRKing
04-16-2009, 10:55 PM
the NO in 7.

maverick1155
04-16-2009, 11:38 PM
denver in 6

melo is ganna show why he should of gone to the all star game instead of david west

TheFuture6
04-16-2009, 11:47 PM
Could really go either way.

Should be a great series.

cmellofan15
04-16-2009, 11:58 PM
I don't think he's ever forgiven the Nuggets for trading away AI (he disappeared from the Nuggets forum after that happened). I think the subtext of his post is probably, "Denver can't get out of the first round without Iverson."

It's not our fault the GM finally wised up and got rid of him, I hope he deals well with that back of his :p

NYMetros
04-17-2009, 12:01 AM
Denver in 5.

PennyMy#1
04-17-2009, 07:10 AM
I say Denver in 5. The have made a huge advantage with Chauncey. J.R. Smith is coming off the bench. Carmelo is there, the Birdman can be a defensive force, so to me it's pretty clear that the Nuggets will make it, but CP3 will at least cost them 1 game.

EX-TREME
04-17-2009, 10:43 AM
denver in 7

Brooke
04-17-2009, 12:31 PM
Denver in 6

IBleedPurple
04-17-2009, 12:39 PM
Any updates on Chandler's health?

Kakaroach
04-17-2009, 12:48 PM
Any updates on Chandler's health? I'm pretty sure he is going to play cuz he played against the Spurs. He's prolly not 100% though.

Sportfan
04-17-2009, 12:49 PM
IMO this will be the best series of the 1st round. I say hornets in 7

rocket man_09
04-17-2009, 12:56 PM
i think denver sweeps hornets...i jus dont see how they can win besides cp3....denver in four for me...

IBleedPurple
04-17-2009, 01:13 PM
From http://www.wwltv.com/sports/stories/wwl041709bhhornetshealth.e3e44077.html

No. Tyson isnít 100 percent,Ē Scott said. ďTyson probably wonít be 100 percent this whole payoff series. Heís as close as he has been in a long time.


Scott has said heís worried that now that Chandler is playing again, his ankle will continue to get worse as the postseason wears on.

Scott isnít alone.

ďIím a little afraid of the same thing,Ē Chandler said. ďThatís why we have been holding off, the reason I havenít played regular season games. Itís something we have to deal with.Ē

In dealing with it, Scott said he wonít make Chandler go full in practice. Instead, heíll work on certain drills to get his conditioning back and get the starters used to having him on the floor again.

Pretty much what most expected.

Kakaroach
04-17-2009, 01:22 PM
IMO this will be the best series of the 1st round. I say hornets in 7 I think so too. Great point-guard match-up.

DenButsu
04-17-2009, 01:41 PM
i think denver sweeps hornets...i jus dont see how they can win besides cp3....denver in four for me...

I'm a Nuggets fan (just a little :cool: ) and I've gotta say as much as I'd like your prediction to be right, I don't think you're giving the Hornets enough credit. They win one or two by virtue of CP3 willing them to victory alone, is my guess.

Joshtd1
04-17-2009, 03:35 PM
Key to beating the Hornets is limiting their shooters. CP3 will get his..David West could have problems here since Kmart and Nene are quick enough to defend the pick and pop, and strong enough to not let him bully them around.

If the Hornets shooters (Butler/Peja/Posey) have big games, they will be tough to beat. Also the Hornets need bench help since it is pretty weak.

jimbobjarree
04-17-2009, 04:41 PM
lol did Vinny get banned for baiting in here?

Kakaroach
04-17-2009, 05:09 PM
lol did Vinny get banned for baiting in here? He got banned? I haven't seen any posts by him in this thread at all.

IndiansFan337
04-17-2009, 09:34 PM
This PG matchup should be tremendous. I think Posey is going to have to log big minutes for NO in order to match up with Melo. K-Mart vs. Wets should be thrilling as well. This could end up being the best series of the 1st round.

avsman05
04-17-2009, 09:50 PM
This PG matchup should be tremendous. I think Posey is going to have to log big minutes for NO in order to match up with Melo. K-Mart vs. Wets should be thrilling as well. This could end up being the best series of the 1st round.

He's my favorite player, no but seriously Denver in 6. New Orleans has a great starting lineup and a horrible bench. Denver's bench is descent with birdman and Jr..... and finally Kleiza.

cmellofan15
04-17-2009, 10:56 PM
I give that more than decent.

cmellofan15
04-17-2009, 10:57 PM
It's a b**** that they don't have Pargo anymore, he was a good role player.

DenButsu
04-17-2009, 11:36 PM
..... and finally Kleiza.

Man, let's hope he shows up. We know he'll be getting undeserved minutes that Balkman should be getting instead. He better deliver with them.

avsman05
04-18-2009, 12:01 AM
Man, let's hope he shows up. We know he'll be getting undeserved minutes that Balkman should be getting instead. He better deliver with them.

Balkman, Petro heck even Jason Hart

Vinny642
04-18-2009, 10:19 AM
Can't wait I have New Orleans going in 6. If we win this next series should be a breeze depending on our health. then after that Western Conference Finals!!! But the Nuggets are a difficult test. Good luck Nugget fans.

jimbobjarree
04-18-2009, 10:40 AM
why does this have to be at such a lame time..I really wanted to catch this series

Vinny642
04-18-2009, 10:43 AM
What time is the first game on over there?

jimbobjarree
04-18-2009, 10:45 AM
3:30am on Sunday night/Monday morning, as a neutral not really worth waking/staying up for. The only decent time is next Saturday, but I'm out watching my favorite comedian

but I have league pass, so I'll catch as much archived action as I can fit in

Vinny642
04-18-2009, 10:48 AM
How would a Cp3 v DWill Western Conference Finals sound?

jimbobjarree
04-18-2009, 10:51 AM
dream road to the finals..Lakers..Rockets...Chris Paul...whoever

would be pretty damn good to give CP3 another schoolin :p

Vinny642
04-18-2009, 11:37 AM
dream road to the finals..Lakers..Rockets...Chris Paul...whoever

would be pretty damn good to give CP3 another schoolin :p

Awww man that hurt, why do you gotta go there LOL I dont see no On Point with Deron Williams.

DenButsu
04-18-2009, 12:32 PM
dream road to the finals..Lakers..Rockets...Chris Paul...whoever

would be pretty damn good to give CP3 another schoolin :p

You so won't get the chance. Both D-Will and he will be done by the 2nd.

JordansBulls
04-18-2009, 10:33 PM
You so won't get the chance. Both D-Will and he will be done by the 2nd.

More than likely.

JayW_1023
04-20-2009, 07:28 AM
CP3 will dominate the Nugz. And Nuggets still dont got a real post presence, and hornets will have David West playing huge. Tyson will play ALRITE, not bad neither, will play just good enough to have hornets be pretty close to rebounds with nuggets. Overall i c CP3 being AMAZING, and help the hornets to win.

Hornets in 6.

Hello? Nene and K-Mart are one of the most solid post duo's in the league.

JordansBulls
04-20-2009, 10:32 PM
New Orleans needs the next game to win.

Vinny642
04-20-2009, 11:16 PM
New Orleans needs the next game to win.

No not really, if we can steal one on Wednesday we got the upperhand in the series.

IBleedPurple
04-21-2009, 10:40 AM
That 21-0 run by the Nugz was a little lack of control for the Hornets. Both teams looked a little shaky at first, but N.O. never got their flow in the game. If Denver goes up 2-0 in the series, I see this one ending in 5 games.

JordansBulls
04-21-2009, 11:29 PM
Let's see if Billups can keep it up.

DenButsu
04-21-2009, 11:41 PM
Let's see if Billups can keep it up.

Not like that, he can't. That was his best game of the season - by far (and I'd even guess best game in several seasons, although a Pistons fan would need to check me on that).

But the good news is that the only game we really needed him to do that in was that first one. To inspire confidence in his teammates that yes, they can place their trust in his leadership and he will guide them through this with his veteran experience and competence. My prediction in the Nuggets forum was that in the next game he'll score 16 or less, but get 10 or more assists - while Melo and J.R. combine for 50+. That is actually the more natural scoring distribution for the Nuggets. That first game was all about, "Pay attention, fellas, this is how we do it on the big stage."

JordansBulls
04-23-2009, 01:15 AM
Billups has basically become Nash as he gotten older. Not known as a great player initially and got to be a star player once in his 30's.

superkegger
04-23-2009, 01:19 AM
Billups has basically become Nash as he gotten older. Not known as a great player initially and got to be a star player once in his 30's.

he's only 32, he's been pretty awesome for like 6 years, since he's been 26-27...

anyway, chris paul has been very quiet in this series. dahntay jones has frustrated him to no end. he needs to pick it up for them to have a chance

DenButsu
04-23-2009, 01:49 AM
he's only 32, he's been pretty awesome for like 6 years, since he's been 26-27...

anyway, chris paul has been very quiet in this series. dahntay jones has frustrated him to no end. he needs to pick it up for them to have a chance

But if I'm not mistaken, Jones played just 7 minutes in the first half, and Paul got just 4 points (or maybe 6). I think your point about Jones is correct when they're playing head to head, but overall I think it's Denver's team defense that is containing and trapping Paul at the perimeter and denying him the paint that is limiting his effectiveness. A lot more hands are in the mix than just Dahntay.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
04-23-2009, 02:36 AM
We'll steal 1 in Nola.

JayW_1023
04-23-2009, 04:18 AM
This is the best I have seen Billups play since the 2005 Finals. He just always seems to be in control.

IBleedPurple
04-23-2009, 11:58 AM
Great game by Billups. He is truly leading in every sense of the word. Melo played a fantastic game too-good defense, 9 assists, and just a constant effort that has rarely been seen from him in the past.

DenButsu
04-24-2009, 10:53 AM
I love how this guy just goes out and plays without looking to put up numbers.

JayW said this about Rondo in the BOS-CHI thread.

But when I read it the first thing that came to my mind was how happy I was that it was also the perfect description of...

Carmelo Anthony. In this series so far at least. And aside from Chauncey's mind boggling performance, Melo, in the most understated way possible, has really been the key to the Nuggets' success thus far. Best defense of his career by a long ways, absolutely unselfish and team-oriented, handling the ball very well, not forcing anything, playing with a degree of focus I've rarely seen from him before.

He'll have a big game soon.

JordansBulls
04-24-2009, 03:12 PM
Denver reminds me soo much of the 90's Bulls.

DenButsu
04-24-2009, 08:51 PM
Denver reminds me soo much of the 90's Bulls.

You've been saying that for years now. At this point, I'm not sure where I see the parallels drawn in the analogy. (Who's Jordan? Who's Pippen?). But at least I can say that this is the first time the Nuggets are playing good enough basketball for me not to be slightly embarrassed at the suggestion (embarrassed meaning, "Even as homeristic of a fan as I can be sometimes, I have to pay respect and acknowledge that we're nowhere near as good as that 90s Bulls team - not even in the same ballpark"). But they're playing basketball us Nuggets fans can really be proud of now. Not that they've really proven anything yet. But in their recent 6 years of postseason play, the current team is so far superior to any of the past 5 that it's just ridiculous.

JordansBulls
04-25-2009, 03:55 PM
Hornets get back into the series.

Bucsfan
04-25-2009, 03:57 PM
Denver reminds me soo much of the 90's Bulls.

your smoking rocks man, the nuggets are good but the 90's bulls? thats like saying the nuggets as of right now are one of the best teams EVER?

sorry the nugs are playing well, but not even close to anything like Mj and Pippen

Chronz
04-25-2009, 05:10 PM
JayW said this about Rondo in the BOS-CHI thread.

But when I read it the first thing that came to my mind was how happy I was that it was also the perfect description of...

Carmelo Anthony. In this series so far at least. And aside from Chauncey's mind boggling performance, Melo, in the most understated way possible, has really been the key to the Nuggets' success thus far. Best defense of his career by a long ways, absolutely unselfish and team-oriented, handling the ball very well, not forcing anything, playing with a degree of focus I've rarely seen from him before.

He'll have a big game soon.

I never understood the phrase, what exactly does it mean. Does it mean no sense of accountability or do the players just play more relaxed?

But Melo's playoff #'s are actually strong for once.

DenButsu
04-25-2009, 09:14 PM
I never understood the phrase, what exactly does it mean. Does it mean no sense of accountability or do the players just play more relaxed?

But Melo's playoff #'s are actually strong for once.

Well in Melo's case I would say that "not trying to put up numbers" would mean to me that in situations where he's faced with either taking a bad shot, or forcing a bad drive, or making a play to swing the ball out or pass to an open shooter, he chooses the pass and not the shot. It would mean that he's trusting his teammates and not trying to do everything himself, and also taking advantage of the fact that he's constantly doubled to get his teammates some easy baskets. We need him to put up points, but we also need for him not to turn the ball over on reckless drives, and to play efficient, smart offense, not just high volume offense. But I don't think Melo has ever really been a stat whore. I just think he's had a hard time expanding his mental range of options beyond getting his own shot off. And he's doing a much better job of that this season (even if his assist numbers don't really reflect that).

Sportfan
04-25-2009, 11:05 PM
great game by paul 32/5/12

Chronz
04-26-2009, 12:18 AM
Well in Melo's case I would say that "not trying to put up numbers" would mean to me that in situations where he's faced with either taking a bad shot, or forcing a bad drive, or making a play to swing the ball out or pass to an open shooter, he chooses the pass and not the shot. It would mean that he's trusting his teammates and not trying to do everything himself, and also taking advantage of the fact that he's constantly doubled to get his teammates some easy baskets. We need him to put up points, but we also need for him not to turn the ball over on reckless drives, and to play efficient, smart offense, not just high volume offense. But I don't think Melo has ever really been a stat whore. I just think he's had a hard time expanding his mental range of options beyond getting his own shot off. And he's doing a much better job of that this season (even if his assist numbers don't really reflect that).
http://www.missico.com/personal/nonsense/images/son20.jpg

DenButsu
04-26-2009, 12:20 AM
http://www.missico.com/personal/nonsense/images/son20.jpg

I really don't see why you think that's nonsensical. Melo's fg% drops like a rock when he forces things too much and takes too many contested jumpers. It leads to wasted possessions. It's pretty basic.

DenButsu
04-26-2009, 12:27 AM
Separately, Chronz, the point you just made in the Rockets-Blazers thread about Houston getting great floor spacing that quick players can take advantage of against the Blazers' "twin towers" strategy reminded me about one of the most disturbing things from the Nuggets-Hornets game 3 box score: Nene only had 4 field goal attempts. Right now Chandler is clearly hobbled from his injury, and Nene needs to play much more aggressively near the rim (and his teammates need to do a much better job of getting him the ball there). The Hornets defense right now really isn't respecting Nene's presence too much right now because he's not making them. And with Chandler clearly hobbled by his injury, there's just no excuse for not taking advantage of that matchup.

Chronz
04-26-2009, 02:02 AM
Its like post dominance has been completely done away with in the post season.

DenButsu
04-26-2009, 02:22 AM
Its like post dominance has been completely done away with in the post season.

Which probably bodes very well for any team that's able to establish some along the way. I really wish Nene would toughen up. With his physique, there's really no excuse not to.

Chronz
04-26-2009, 04:47 PM
Nene is probably the 3rd most talented player at his position, I dont see him doing well against whichever of the top 2 get out of the LA-ROX Bracket. Hell you might throw Pau Gasol in there, its unfair really, the Lakers are just so much bigger than everyone except Houston.

Kohaku
04-26-2009, 06:01 PM
That's cuz lakers are stacked =_="...

JayW_1023
04-26-2009, 07:21 PM
I anticipated an all-nba performance by CP3 in game 3...looks like my predictions came true.

The Nuggets should bounce back in game 4...it has been evident they are a deeper, more dynamic team...they don't rely on a single player as much as the Hornets.

JordansBulls
04-27-2009, 11:23 PM
Series is pretty much done now.

NBA_Starter
04-27-2009, 11:25 PM
^Agreed, how can you bounce back from that embarrassment and having to do it in Denver!

MAC10TIZZY
04-27-2009, 11:32 PM
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!

grega1976
04-27-2009, 11:37 PM
this makes me feel not as bad about the Rox collapse against the Mavs in game 7... thanks hornets

Ragun
04-27-2009, 11:39 PM
holy ****.......

69centers
04-27-2009, 11:40 PM
Please tell me this 58 point loss by NO is a misprint/typo/internet glitch?? You've got to be kidding me. I don't ever remember a game, regular season or playoffs, that someone won by so many points! CRAZY!

FaceDown91
04-27-2009, 11:44 PM
58 points!!!! Holy sh**!!!!!!!!

Lone Maverick
04-27-2009, 11:49 PM
Wow, aint over till its over, but this is over...

superkegger
04-27-2009, 11:51 PM
Yeah, this series is over.

Catfish1314
04-27-2009, 11:58 PM
I wasn't able to watch this game but my reaction to the final score is as follows:

Wow.

Vinny642
04-28-2009, 12:05 AM
Terrible just terrible, w/e hopefully next season we can bounce back. Good luck the rest of the way Denver and beat LA and the Cavs. ;)

what54!?
04-28-2009, 12:12 AM
yep carmelo is getting out of the first round

Kohaku
04-28-2009, 12:23 AM
yep carmelo is getting out of the first round

****ing finally!

DenButsu
04-28-2009, 01:05 AM
Not only is he "getting out" but he's playing his best postseason basketball of his career in helping the Nuggets do it. I think, at long last, we are finally starting to see the true emergence of the Carmelo Anthony we've all known was in there and been waiting for for years.

Thank you, Joe Dumars.

DODGERS&LAKERS
04-28-2009, 01:31 AM
58 points?

AllTheWay
04-28-2009, 02:00 AM
That was the biggest ****ing manslaughter I have ever seen. It was both fascinating and disgusting.

AllTheWay
04-28-2009, 02:03 AM
Chauncey has had one of the best first rounds I've ever seen, he's incredible. Guy is still the league's second best point.

DenButsu
04-28-2009, 02:11 AM
What the Nuggets defense has done to Chris Paul in the three Hornets losses:

Transformed him from a...

23/11/5.5 guy who shoots .508 and takes complete control over games...

...to a...

13/10/3.7 guy who shoots .378 and has a very frustrated, difficult time executing offensively

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5631/cp3slossesstats.png




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(I posted this in the Nuggets forum first, but thought I'd post it here as well so more peeps could see it. After the final regular season matchup between these two teams, I was fairly confident of Denver's ability to limit CP3's effectiveness. But they have gone far and beyond what I had expected.)

tr4shb0t
04-28-2009, 02:15 AM
LOL, Nuggets were ruthless tonight. If it doesn't scare the Mavs I don't know what will.

Zetterberg40
04-28-2009, 02:37 AM
Agreed that was one of the beating I ever seen in an NBA Playoff Game

Slayer
04-28-2009, 02:47 AM
Good lord, sucks for Hornets fans. LOL. At least my Jazz lost in a respectible way going down fighting to the defending western champion Lakers. The Hornets just flat out gave up in that game. 58? LOL, good lord.
I always doubted the Nuggets could beat L.A. but if they play like they have been the Lakers could get upset.

nVicious
04-28-2009, 02:52 AM
WOW !!! New Orleans looks SO DIFFERENT THAN I THOUGHT. They are supposed to be better this year. they looked very good last year, but not this year anymore. what the hell to New Orleans?

pippsux
04-28-2009, 03:09 AM
NO have no pride. If I was the coach I would have TAKEN OUT MY STARTERS and put the bench guys in there to dish out some hard fouls. No excuse to lose by that much at home.

superkegger
04-28-2009, 03:55 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Why-the-Hornets-have-fallen-so-hard?urn=nba,159495#remaining-content

Interesting take on the hornets. Good read

Ollie Tabooger
04-28-2009, 04:26 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Why-the-Hornets-have-fallen-so-hard?urn=nba,159495#remaining-content

Interesting take on the hornets. Good read

good read, and some very good points made, but they're not as bad as Dwyer makes them sound. Much exaggeration.

superkegger
04-28-2009, 05:01 PM
True, they're a good team, but not as good as most people make them out to be.

IversonIsKrazy
04-28-2009, 06:56 PM
HOLLYY FUUCCKK. i didnt watch the game, i saw it on the score afterwards, i thought the score made a mistake, so i went to nba.com, and saw that HORNETS LOST BY 58 POINTS ON HOMECOURT. HOOLLLYYY SHHHIIITTTT! man, did the hornet fans in the arena leave or wutt

Chronz
04-28-2009, 07:33 PM
What the Nuggets defense has done to Chris Paul in the three Hornets losses:


Transformed him from a...

23/11/5.5 guy who shoots .508 and takes complete control over games...

...to a...

13/10/3.7 guy who shoots .378 and has a very frustrated, difficult time executing offensively

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5631/cp3slossesstats.png




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(I posted this in the Nuggets forum first, but thought I'd post it here as well so more peeps could see it. After the final regular season matchup between these two teams, I was fairly confident of Denver's ability to limit CP3's effectiveness. But they have gone far and beyond what I had expected.)

What theyve reduced D-West into is doubly impressive

superkegger
04-28-2009, 10:42 PM
What theyve reduced D-West into is doubly impressive

While I'm not going to say West is a total fabrication of Paul, he definitely relies on Paul a lot, and with what they've done to paul, and then what Kmart has done to west, has had like the multiplier effect on west.

JordansBulls
04-30-2009, 08:17 AM
Melo has now moved on.

DenButsu
04-30-2009, 08:46 AM
Melo has now moved on.

Hallelujah! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnHksDFHTQI)

:dance:

nygiants242
04-30-2009, 08:50 AM
Nuggets looked VERY good.

theimortalone
04-30-2009, 08:52 AM
Man I can't believe how bad the Hornets did in this series. Didn't Denver beat them by 20 pts each time they won? :pity:

DenButsu
04-30-2009, 09:08 AM
Man I can't believe how bad the Hornets did in this series. Didn't Denver beat them by 20 pts each time they won? :pity:

The average point differential for the entire series (including the Hornets win) was +24.2, Denver.

Young2Kinsler
04-30-2009, 10:11 AM
Denver got their scoring out of the way this series, now they are easy pickins! lol jk guys, good luck next series, but I don't think you need it.

theimortalone
04-30-2009, 10:23 AM
The average point differential for the entire series (including the Hornets win) was +24.2, Denver.

OMG what a joke! Wow who would have expected New Orleans to suck that bad? :pity:

DrDEADalready
04-30-2009, 10:23 AM
:speechless: :dance2:

DenButsu
04-30-2009, 10:50 AM
In all fairness, I really don't think New Orleans merits all the "Hornets suck" talk. Three things happened in this series: 1) The Hornets were hobbled with injuries (shouldn't be an excuse in the playoffs, but it's true). 2) Byron Scott got outcoached by George Karl, partly because Karl drafted up a highly effective defensive scheme to take CP3 out and squelch the effectiveness of their secondary scorers (especially David West), and the Nuggets players elevated their game to a level I haven't seen with so much consistency all season long in executing that game plan. And 3) Denver proved to be a pretty great team, and better than the Hornets - but worse than "pretty great" does not equal "sucky".

Chronz
04-30-2009, 02:21 PM
While I'm not going to say West is a total fabrication of Paul, he definitely relies on Paul a lot, and with what they've done to paul, and then what Kmart has done to west, has had like the multiplier effect on west.Seems like a vice versa type of scenario to me

Vinny642
04-30-2009, 04:56 PM
Whatever Denver did their thing, we didnt, Good luck against Dallas