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DocUSN
04-02-2009, 06:28 PM
I'm sure this fourm will evlove into mre then "Greatest......Ever" but lets get the basics out fo the way.

Few of my picks

95-96 Bulls: 72-10 MJ, Pippen, Rodman, Toni Kukoc, Ron Harper, Luic Longley, Steve Kerr

86-87 Show Time Lakers 65-17 Magic Johnson Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy, Byron Scott, A.C. Green and Michael Cooper


82-83 Philadelphia 76ers 65-17 Moses, Dr J Mo, Cheeks, Bobby Jones

85-86 Celtics 67-15 Bird, Parish, Kevin McHale, Dennis Johnson, Danny Ainge and Bill Walton

64-65 Boston Celtics 62-18 Bill Russell, Sam Jones, John Havlicek, Tom Sanders and Tom Heinsohn

Then theres Wilts Sixers, Wilts Lakers, the Knicks with Friazer, The kobe Shaq Lakers, the Rockets in the mid 90's, Pistons of the late 80's, and of course the other 5 championship bulls teams.

superkegger
04-02-2009, 06:42 PM
I have a hard time betting against then 95-96 Bulls. But that may be because they are the only team I actually got to see play. Though Kobe and Shaq's 3 peat lakers was also pretty stinking good.

JordansBulls
04-02-2009, 06:44 PM
I'll provide some statistics.

http://www.nba.com/history/toptenteams_index.html

Regular Season - margin of victory
'72 Lakers - 15.9
'96 Bulls - 15.0
’87 Lakers --14
’64 Celtics – 13.3
'67 Sixers - 13.2
'86 Celtics - 13.0

Playoffs - margin of victory
’87 Lakers –15.6
'96 Bulls - 15.0
'86 Celtics - 14.3
'67 Sixers - 13.5
’64 Celtics –11.8
'72 Lakers - 9.75

Combined Regular Season and Playoff margin of victory
'96 Bulls - 15.0
’87 Lakers -14.8
'86 Celtics - 13.7
'67 Sixers - 13.4
'72 Lakers - 12.84
’64 Celtics – 12.6



Road Warriors = 33 Wins

No team had won more on the road than the Bulls who established yet another NBA record with 33 wins. The Bulls didn’t just show up in visiting arenas, it was how they showed up. They were the undisputed No. 1 road draw having converted the hometown faithful fans in visiting cities (see No. 23, 33 and 91 jerseys in the stands). Home or on the road, it didn’t matter, the adoration the ’96 Bulls enjoyed was unprecedented. It was Beatles-esque. Everyone wanted a piece of this team.



Go by the numbers and again, the Bulls rank at the top. As mentioned previously, the Bulls led the lead in scoring 105.2 and ranked second in defense at 92.9 for a 12.2 point differential. The differential for the ’67 Sixers was 9.4 and the ’86 Celtics was also 9.4. The ’72 Lakers posted a tad better mark than the Bulls at 12.3 but when a team averages an impressive 121 points per game but gives up an unimpressive 108.7 on the defensive end, the 12.2 is more impressive thanks to the Bulls defense and the nod goes to Chicago.


http://proxy.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2007/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=Finalists1-10


1. 1996 Chicago Bulls Score: 327.9
KEY FACTS
Regular-season record: 72-10
Postseason record: 15-3
Avg. scoring margin: +12.2
Avg. scoring margin, playoffs: +10.6
Finals result: Beat Seattle, 4-2 LEADERS (regular-season stats)
Scoring: Michael Jordan, 30.4 ppg
Rebounds: Dennis Rodman, 14.9 rpg
Assists: Scottie Pippen, 5.9 apg
Coach: Phil Jackson
Finals MVP: Michael Jordan



Hands down, the greatest team of all time. How can you choose another when these guys won 72 regular-season games and 14 of their first 15 in the postseason? The Bulls were so good they were first in both offensive and defensive efficiency, and outscored their opponents by 12.2 points per game.

With names like Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, and Toni Kukoc, not to mention a coach like Phil Jackson, this team was pretty much unbeatable -- in fact, seven of its playoff wins were by 17 points or more. The only nit to pick was the Bulls' consecutive losses to the Sonics in the Finals, but they were up 3-0 by then and seemingly bored with how good they were.



2. 1987 Los Angeles Lakers Score: 301.5
KEY FACTS
Regular-season record: 65-17
Postseason record: 15-3
Avg. scoring margin: +9.3
Avg. scoring margin, playoffs: +11.4
Finals result: Beat Boston, 4-2 LEADERS
Scoring: Magic Johnson, 23.9 ppg
Rebounds: A.C. Green, 7.9 rpg
Assists: Magic Johnson, 12.4 apg
Coach: Pat Riley
Finals MVP: Magic Johnson



Fittingly, the great Lakers and Celtics teams are in a virtual dead heat for second place. (You'll note that I just call the Lakers "Los Angeles" in this list -- no risk of confusing them with the Clippers here.) This L.A. team nudged ahead of Boston by virtue of winning 65 games in the regular season and then trashing the West -- 11 wins in 12 games -- to make the Finals. The Lakers beat the Celtics in six, and for the playoffs as a whole outscored their opponents by 205 points -- the best of any team on this list. Seven different players averaged double figures, led by Magic with 23.9 points per game.




3. 1986 Boston Celtics Score: 301.1
KEY FACTS
Regular-season record: 67-15
Postseason record: 15-3
Avg. scoring margin: +9.4
Avg. scoring margin, playoffs: +10.3
Finals result: Beat Houston, 4-2 LEADERS
Scoring: Larry Bird, 25.8 ppg
Rebounds: Larry Bird, 9.8 rpg
Assists: Larry Bird, 6.8 apg
Coach: K.C. Jones
Finals MVP: Larry Bird


The Celtics won 67 games in '86 behind the best frontcourt ever assembled -- Bird, Kevin McHale, Robert Parish and Bill Walton -- and followed it up by stampeding through the playoffs in 15 games. They rank behind L.A. mostly because their victory margin wasn't as strong in the playoffs. On the other hand, this isn't a bad list to be No. 3 on. And few teams will ever have five players averaging at least 15 a game in the playoffs, as Boston's legendary quintet did in this postseason.


I would include the '82-83 Sixers, '66-67 Sixers, '70-71 Bucks as well.

DocUSN
04-02-2009, 06:57 PM
I'll provide some statistics.

http://www.nba.com/history/toptenteams_index.html

Regular Season - margin of victory
'72 Lakers - 15.9
'96 Bulls - 15.0
’87 Lakers --14
’64 Celtics – 13.3
'67 Sixers - 13.2
'86 Celtics - 13.0

Playoffs - margin of victory
’87 Lakers –15.6
'96 Bulls - 15.0
'86 Celtics - 14.3
'67 Sixers - 13.5
’64 Celtics –11.8
'72 Lakers - 9.75

Combined Regular Season and Playoff margin of victory
'96 Bulls - 15.0
’87 Lakers -14.8
'86 Celtics - 13.7
'67 Sixers - 13.4
'72 Lakers - 12.84
’64 Celtics – 12.6



Road Warriors = 33 Wins

No team had won more on the road than the Bulls who established yet another NBA record with 33 wins. The Bulls didn’t just show up in visiting arenas, it was how they showed up. They were the undisputed No. 1 road draw having converted the hometown faithful fans in visiting cities (see No. 23, 33 and 91 jerseys in the stands). Home or on the road, it didn’t matter, the adoration the ’96 Bulls enjoyed was unprecedented. It was Beatles-esque. Everyone wanted a piece of this team.



Go by the numbers and again, the Bulls rank at the top. As mentioned previously, the Bulls led the lead in scoring 105.2 and ranked second in defense at 92.9 for a 12.2 point differential. The differential for the ’67 Sixers was 9.4 and the ’86 Celtics was also 9.4. The ’72 Lakers posted a tad better mark than the Bulls at 12.3 but when a team averages an impressive 121 points per game but gives up an unimpressive 108.7 on the defensive end, the 12.2 is more impressive thanks to the Bulls defense and the nod goes to Chicago.


http://proxy.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2007/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=Finalists1-10


1. 1996 Chicago Bulls Score: 327.9
KEY FACTS
Regular-season record: 72-10
Postseason record: 15-3
Avg. scoring margin: +12.2
Avg. scoring margin, playoffs: +10.6
Finals result: Beat Seattle, 4-2 LEADERS (regular-season stats)
Scoring: Michael Jordan, 30.4 ppg
Rebounds: Dennis Rodman, 14.9 rpg
Assists: Scottie Pippen, 5.9 apg
Coach: Phil Jackson
Finals MVP: Michael Jordan



Hands down, the greatest team of all time. How can you choose another when these guys won 72 regular-season games and 14 of their first 15 in the postseason? The Bulls were so good they were first in both offensive and defensive efficiency, and outscored their opponents by 12.2 points per game.

With names like Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, and Toni Kukoc, not to mention a coach like Phil Jackson, this team was pretty much unbeatable -- in fact, seven of its playoff wins were by 17 points or more. The only nit to pick was the Bulls' consecutive losses to the Sonics in the Finals, but they were up 3-0 by then and seemingly bored with how good they were.



2. 1987 Los Angeles Lakers Score: 301.5
KEY FACTS
Regular-season record: 65-17
Postseason record: 15-3
Avg. scoring margin: +9.3
Avg. scoring margin, playoffs: +11.4
Finals result: Beat Boston, 4-2 LEADERS
Scoring: Magic Johnson, 23.9 ppg
Rebounds: A.C. Green, 7.9 rpg
Assists: Magic Johnson, 12.4 apg
Coach: Pat Riley
Finals MVP: Magic Johnson



Fittingly, the great Lakers and Celtics teams are in a virtual dead heat for second place. (You'll note that I just call the Lakers "Los Angeles" in this list -- no risk of confusing them with the Clippers here.) This L.A. team nudged ahead of Boston by virtue of winning 65 games in the regular season and then trashing the West -- 11 wins in 12 games -- to make the Finals. The Lakers beat the Celtics in six, and for the playoffs as a whole outscored their opponents by 205 points -- the best of any team on this list. Seven different players averaged double figures, led by Magic with 23.9 points per game.




3. 1986 Boston Celtics Score: 301.1
KEY FACTS
Regular-season record: 67-15
Postseason record: 15-3
Avg. scoring margin: +9.4
Avg. scoring margin, playoffs: +10.3
Finals result: Beat Houston, 4-2 LEADERS
Scoring: Larry Bird, 25.8 ppg
Rebounds: Larry Bird, 9.8 rpg
Assists: Larry Bird, 6.8 apg
Coach: K.C. Jones
Finals MVP: Larry Bird


The Celtics won 67 games in '86 behind the best frontcourt ever assembled -- Bird, Kevin McHale, Robert Parish and Bill Walton -- and followed it up by stampeding through the playoffs in 15 games. They rank behind L.A. mostly because their victory margin wasn't as strong in the playoffs. On the other hand, this isn't a bad list to be No. 3 on. And few teams will ever have five players averaging at least 15 a game in the playoffs, as Boston's legendary quintet did in this postseason.


I would include the '82-83 Sixers, '66-67 Sixers, '70-71 Bucks as well.



Great post, thanks for the stats helps to put some things in prospective

That celtics front court was killer, which was the bulls biggest problem in 96, if you can say a team that won 72 games had a problem but id love to see those two teams go at it.

Kyle N.
04-02-2009, 10:07 PM
2002 Kings.

DocUSN
04-03-2009, 02:29 PM
2002 Kings.

:pity:

George Karl
04-03-2009, 05:55 PM
The Bulls team that won 72 games.....I'd put them against any team in history and bet my contract on it.

BlackMamba
04-03-2009, 07:32 PM
'96 Bulls. GOAT record. Had the MVP, won the championship, GOAT rebounder (of course arguments can be made for others but it's my opinion), 6th man of the year, 2 All-NBA first teamers, 3 All-NBA 1st team defenders, one of the greatest coaches of all time and DOMINATION of the competition. People often bring up that they won 72 games in a bit watered down league but that's really a myth. The league being watered down has little do with them dominating everyone else. And there were a couple of expansion teams brought in that didn't dilute much of the greater talent.

BullySixChicago
04-10-2009, 10:00 AM
I'm sure this fourm will evlove into mre then "Greatest......Ever" but lets get the basics out fo the way.

Few of my picks

95-96 Bulls: 72-10 MJ, Pippen, Rodman, Toni Kukoc, Ron Harper, Luic Longley, Steve Kerr

86-87 Show Time Lakers 65-17 Magic Johnson Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy, Byron Scott, A.C. Green and Michael Cooper


82-83 Philadelphia 76ers 65-17 Moses, Dr J Mo, Cheeks, Bobby Jones

85-86 Celtics 67-15 Bird, Parish, Kevin McHale, Dennis Johnson, Danny Ainge and Bill Walton

64-65 Boston Celtics 62-18 Bill Russell, Sam Jones, John Havlicek, Tom Sanders and Tom Heinsohn

Then theres Wilts Sixers, Wilts Lakers, the Knicks with Friazer, The kobe Shaq Lakers, the Rockets in the mid 90's, Pistons of the late 80's, and of course the other 5 championship bulls teams.
all of them deserve credit BUT THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE 95-96 CHICAGO BULLS

BullySixChicago
04-10-2009, 10:11 AM
How about this for the best team ever during 95-96!
The leading scorer during the regular season.
The leading rebounder during the regular season.
The 6th man of the year.
The MVP of the regular season
The finals MVP
The leading 3pt shooter in the NBA
4 players on the all defensive team 3 on first team and one on the second team.
There is one more can you figure it out?

Cowboy Up
04-21-2009, 04:17 PM
2007 - 2008 Celtics FTW!!!!!!1!!11!!11!!!ONE!!!1!ELEVEN!!!!!

Cowboy Up
04-21-2009, 04:23 PM
Seriously though the 95-96 Bulls were the best team ever. Best player of all time, the three best perimeter defenders in the league at the time. Rodman is the best defender I've ever seen (I'm 20) and Pippen was really good at all aspects of the game. We all know what Jordan could do. If you match these guys up against the 72 Lakers or showtime Lakers I'm not sure how their bigs would match up trying to shut down Wilt or Kareem, but that'd be the only thing I'd be worried about in that matchup.

69centers
04-21-2009, 09:34 PM
The NBA came up with a list of the 50 greatest NBA players of all time. There's only 1 team I know of that had 4 players on that list:

The '85/'86 Celtics.

To the person above who made the bid score sheet. Margin of victory is not a deciding factor and could not be unless every team we are speaking of had the exact same opponent. You could have just had a team who ran up against crappy playoff teams that year.

Just forget the stats, and look at the players. 4 players on that Celtics team are in the top 50 players of all time.

op12
04-22-2009, 11:43 PM
86 celtics
96 bulls
87 lakers

in that order

superkegger
05-01-2009, 05:05 PM
2007 - 2008 Celtics FTW!!!!!!1!!11!!11!!!ONE!!!1!ELEVEN!!!!!

:pity:


The NBA came up with a list of the 50 greatest NBA players of all time. There's only 1 team I know of that had 4 players on that list:

The '85/'86 Celtics.

To the person above who made the bid score sheet. Margin of victory is not a deciding factor and could not be unless every team we are speaking of had the exact same opponent. You could have just had a team who ran up against crappy playoff teams that year.

Just forget the stats, and look at the players. 4 players on that Celtics team are in the top 50 players of all time.

Stats do matter. And that bulls team had 3 top 50 players, or at least IMO Rodman should be considered there. and putting bill walton on that team, while he helped, he was a shell of the top 50 player he used to be.

thegerman
10-28-2017, 03:54 PM
86 celtics