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td0tsfinest
02-25-2009, 07:15 PM
http://www.torontosun.com/sports/basketball/2009/02/25/8521801-sun.html

I thought this article was interesting especially since the conversation we had a few weeks back about Toronto not being a big market.

We are one of eight teams to be averaging 19,000 people per game. The others are Chicago, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, New York, Portland and Utah.

rapswin98
02-25-2009, 08:27 PM
they watch basketball up in canada?:speechless:

im not surprised, u always see most of the seats filled when the raps play at home

SammyJ
02-25-2009, 08:51 PM
http://www.torontosun.com/sports/basketball/2009/02/25/8521801-sun.html

I thought this article was interesting especially since the conversation we had a few weeks back about Toronto not being a big market.

We are one of eight teams to be averaging 19,000 people per game. The others are Chicago, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, New York, Portland and Utah.

Howz Boston and LA are not in? Even San Antonio....Is it because they can't hold 19K ppl ???:confused:

LanceUpperCut
02-25-2009, 09:01 PM
And this season has been horrible so that's a good sign.

Jacob K.
02-25-2009, 09:22 PM
but you know canada, small market team. no one ever wants to play there:eyebrow:

lorenz00
02-25-2009, 09:27 PM
how come player doesnt want to play in canada? is it because they need to change us dollars to canadian dollars? lol

ChongInc.
02-25-2009, 09:35 PM
And this season has been horrible so that's a good sign.

Toronto is one of the most amazing sport cities in the world. When was the last time the leafs didn't sell put with a medeocre team? I don't think the Toronto fc have played a home game that hasn't been sold out. Were a critical bunch, but very pationate and devoted

JermanJaysFan
02-25-2009, 10:28 PM
how come player doesnt want to play in canada? is it because they need to change us dollars to canadian dollars? lol

Almost- Athletes have to payer higher income tax on their dollars earned in Canada than they do in the States. Maybe someone who knows more about it can elaborate, but I think that is a core issue.

7777777
02-26-2009, 11:52 PM
http://www.torontosun.com/sports/basketball/2009/02/25/8521801-sun.html

I thought this article was interesting especially since the conversation we had a few weeks back about Toronto not being a big market.

We are one of eight teams to be averaging 19,000 people per game. The others are Chicago, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, New York, Portland and Utah.

Good to be a team making money. Especially if you want to sign a MLE free agent in the off-season! Lots of teams won't match offers!

td0tsfinest
02-27-2009, 12:07 AM
Almost- Athletes have to payer higher income tax on their dollars earned in Canada than they do in the States. Maybe someone who knows more about it can elaborate, but I think that is a core issue.

thats definitely a barrier for grabbing any top tier free agents.

Bramaca
02-27-2009, 01:42 AM
Howz Boston and LA are not in? Even San Antonio....Is it because they can't hold 19K ppl ???:confused:

Boston's seating capacity is 18664 which is what their average attendance is and the Lakers capacity is 18997 which is what they average.

IversonIsKrazy
02-27-2009, 02:27 AM
w/ all this discussion, all im really thinking is that...

I WANT THE GRIZZLIES BACK IN VANCOUVER!!!

danielandrew
02-27-2009, 02:40 AM
w/ all this discussion, all im really thinking is that...

I WANT THE GRIZZLIES BACK IN VANCOUVER!!!

i wish! :)

dirtybird
02-27-2009, 09:49 AM
Almost- Athletes have to payer higher income tax on their dollars earned in Canada than they do in the States. Maybe someone who knows more about it can elaborate, but I think that is a core issue.

IIRC, I believe it depends on the state. Some states there wouldn't be much of a difference, others it could be huge.

HoopsDrive
02-27-2009, 11:00 AM
http://www.chris-bosh.com/forums/index.php?topic=3373.0

I don't even know if this solves anything but might as well take a look. It's from the CB4 forum website and he himself answers with:


Taxes only apply to where you reside. As far as converting goes, you just get the job done. It's really no specific formula to doing it. It depends on what process you want to take.

Mile High Champ
02-27-2009, 11:25 AM
If only top selling resulted in more wins then we would be all set.

mike_noodles
03-01-2009, 09:59 AM
http://www.torontosun.com/sports/basketball/2009/02/25/8521801-sun.html

I thought this article was interesting especially since the conversation we had a few weeks back about Toronto not being a big market.

We are one of eight teams to be averaging 19,000 people per game. The others are Chicago, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, New York, Portland and Utah.

Toronto is considered the 5th largest city in North America and 4th largest city to have an NBA team, how could you possibly say that we are not a big market? Where do you get your facts from?

http://www.worldatlas.com/citypops.htm

Bob_at_york
03-01-2009, 10:01 AM
Toronto is considered the 5th largest city in North America and 4th largest city to have an NBA team, how could you possibly say that we are not a big market? Where do you get your facts from?

http://www.worldatlas.com/citypops.htm

because the media is always talking about Bosh going to a bigger market. A market where he could make a lot of money from ads.

B2theRY
03-01-2009, 12:42 PM
shame you can hear a pin drop when the arena is sold out though.

More shats!
03-01-2009, 02:24 PM
because the media is always talking about Bosh going to a bigger market. A market where he could make a lot of money from ads.

Don't read the crap of American writers, to them we are small town city that watches only hockey and has no idea what basketball is about.Vince made a lot more ads in his time with the Raps compare to what he did with the Nets , that shoud prove that you can be marketable in the city of Toronto.Bosh is just not that marketable that is why you dont see him with comercials and big time shoe deals.I doubt that would change a lot if he leaves for a US city.

jrob23
03-01-2009, 02:30 PM
We should change our team logo to a mugshot of Bosh, seriously he looks just like a velocia raptor


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LD V2.0
03-01-2009, 03:11 PM
http://www.torontosun.com/sports/basketball/2009/02/25/8521801-sun.html

I thought this article was interesting especially since the conversation we had a few weeks back about Toronto not being a big market.

We are one of eight teams to be averaging 19,000 people per game. The others are Chicago, Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, New York, Portland and Utah.

Gate numbers is one thing but what about merchandising and even more importantly, ratings? Cleveland gets big attendance because they're winning and they have the best player in the league. Do you consider Cleveland a big market? If so, are they a big market if James leaves town? Were they a big market before James arrived?

I think Toronto is no doubt underrated, but I would like to see more stats than just gate numbers. I know television ratings are a struggle for the Raptors. Why else are the games spread so thin among a bunch of stations? Ratings are low to the point that TSN would rather throw the games on their sub network than commit to giving them good time slots on the main network. U.S. national broadcasters like TNT won't give the Raptors the time of day.

Anyone know of where we can find merchandise sales numbers?

rapswin98
03-01-2009, 04:02 PM
shame you can hear a pin drop when the arena is sold out though.lol thats so true

td0tsfinest
03-01-2009, 04:19 PM
Toronto is considered the 5th largest city in North America and 4th largest city to have an NBA team, how could you possibly say that we are not a big market? Where do you get your facts from?

http://www.worldatlas.com/citypops.htm

I'm not saying we're not a big market, don't you know how to read. It was a conversation the forum had a few weeks ago. I was on the side of Toronto being a big market.

Bob_at_york
03-02-2009, 09:05 AM
Anyone know of where we can find merchandise sales numbers?

I tried some quick googling, this was the best I could do: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/postedsports/archive/2009/01/28/nba-bryant-lakers-top-nba-jersey-sales.aspx