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yboord028
02-15-2009, 12:37 AM
I know nobody really cares about a Mock selection but its gives a good previews as to what happens.

For years, the selection process for the NCAA men's basketball tournament was somewhat of an unknown.

Fans, coaches, players and yes, even journalists were never really sure how the committee reached its decisions and what factors played the biggest role when selecting the 34 at-large teams to join the Big Dance.

And after taking part in the NCAA's now-annual mock selection committee Thursday with media members from around the country, it's not all that much clearer.

Here's what happened: 20 journalists were paired into 10 teams of two. Each duo represented one member of the actual selection committee, casting secret ballots throughout the process.

In just under 12 hours, the 20 of us were asked to do what the selection committee does in five days. Needless to say, there wasn't an opportunity to discuss each team's minute details like the real committee does, and very early in the process it was apparent that each person's taste differed in some way.

One person talked up a team's record vs. the Top 50. Others mentioned a team's non-conference schedule. Some felt that a team's last 12 games were a factor. And the list went on ...

Each "committee member" started by selecting up to 34 teams regardless of whether they were a conference champion or not that were thought to be deserving of being in the field, no questions asked. Each member was then asked to list any team that should merit consideration for a tournament bid.

After the votes were tabulated, the teams that received at-large votes from all but two of the members were automatically in the field of at-large teams. Those that didn't get enough votes and those on the consideration list were then stacked into a group for discussion, dissection and analysis.

From that group under consideration, each "member" was asked to pick the best eight teams via a secret ballot. After all the ballots were collected, the eight with the most votes were then ranked in order from 1 to 8. The top four teams from that ranking were put in the at-large field. The other four were put aside while another ballot of eight teams was cast. The top four from that vote were added to the four that didn't make the first cut, and those eight teams were ranked, with the top four again moving into the at-large group.

Confused yet?

Can't blame you. But that's the process that goes on for hours actually, for days if you're on the real selection committee until the at-large field is whittled down to 34 teams.

Keep in mind that as the mock "conference tournaments" played out as well, some teams moved from the at-large field to the automatic qualifier list, opening more spots for our secret ballots to fill.

In our bracket Thursday, several mid-majors benefited from this. Davidson and Siena both missed the cut right at the end of deliberations, but were ranked high enough and backed into the field as at-large candidates when others that had been voted to the at-large field became automatic qualifiers.

After about eight or nine hours, the field of 65 was finally set.

The "committee" then ranked every team from 1-65 using the same balloting process as before. Once the seed list was complete the field is bracketed, using seed number as a way of keeping each region weighted relatively evenly with emphasis on equality across the first four seeds.

Some factors such as a team not being able to play Sunday due to religious reasons or an attempt to avoid extensive travel force the committee to make exceptions in certain instances. But procedures abound for keeping things even and avoiding rematches in the early rounds from games that occurred this regular season and from recent NCAA tournaments.

Three hours later, with all the placements scrutinized and set in stone, we finally had a bracket.

Though our process on Thursday was much more compact than what the committee goes through, it was obvious that each member's personal preference influences each and every ballot. With the real committee holding roughly 150 ballots over their five-day session, anything can happen and anyone can go dancing.

Selections

Notable results from the 65-team field journalists assembled in a mock selection panel on Thursday:

No. 1 seeds: North Carolina, Connecticut, Oklahoma and Pittsburgh.

The ACC and Big East each posted eight teams in the bracket and the six major conferences as a whole accounted for 29 of the 34 at-large spots. The other five were filled out by Davidson, Siena, Utah State, UNLV and Utah. (BYU was the conference winner for the Mountain West.

Leagues with multiple bids:
Big East: 8
UConn, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Georgetown, West Virginia, Syracuse, Marquette, Villanova

ACC: 8
North Carolina, Duke, Clemson, Wake Forest, Florida State, Boston College, Virginia Tech, Miami (Fla.)

Pac-10: 6
UCLA, Washington, California, Arizona State, Arizona, Southern California

Big Ten: 5
Michigan State, Illinois, Minnesota, Purdue, Ohio State

Big 12: 4
Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Texas

Southeastern Conference: 4
Florida, Tennesee, LSU, South Carolina

Mountain West: 3
BYU, Utah, UNLV

Atlantic 10: 2
Xavier, Dayton

Metro Atlantic: 2
Fairfield (conference champ), Siena

Southern: 2
College of Charleston (conference champ), Davidson

WAC: 2
Boise State (conference champ), Utah State

Notable omissions: Baylor, Cincinnati, Kentucky, Notre Dame, Saint Mary's.http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2009-02-13-mock-selection-analysis_N.htm

More info about the Mock Selection: http://www.midmajority.com/2009/02/mock-selection-2009.php

Very interesting how Siena got an At Large bid, mostly why I know about the Mock Selection.

Chest Rockwell
02-15-2009, 01:59 AM
Georgetown has got to be the most underachieving team in basketball. I really hope Baylor makes it, they're an interesting team to watch.

MilfHunter07
02-15-2009, 02:05 PM
its all about the u

JHG722
02-16-2009, 11:24 AM
It's absolutely laughable that Davidson, Siena, UNLV, Va Tech, Georgetown, BC, South Carolina got in over Temple...

Casino
02-21-2009, 12:32 PM
There was no intent on slighting anyone. This mock bracket was an exercise just to get an understanding on what the process the NCAA Committee goes through to get a bracket formed.

Casino
02-27-2009, 01:07 AM
It's absolutely laughable that Davidson, Siena, UNLV, Va Tech, Georgetown, BC, South Carolina got in over Temple...

Maybe not as laughable now after the Owls lost at home to La Salle.

YankeePride13
02-27-2009, 09:26 AM
Embarrassing if Siena, Georgetown, and UNLV get in and Kentucky and Notre Dame don't....

Casino
02-27-2009, 04:16 PM
Embarrassing if Siena, Georgetown, and UNLV get in and Kentucky and Notre Dame don't....

They could've had Siena, Georgetown and UNLV as automatic bids/conference tournament champions.

YankeePride13
02-27-2009, 04:29 PM
They could've had Siena, Georgetown and UNLV as automatic bids/conference tournament champions.

"The ACC and Big East each posted eight teams in the bracket and the six major conferences as a whole accounted for 29 of the 34 at-large spots. The other five were filled out by Davidson, Siena, Utah State, UNLV and Utah. (BYU was the conference winner for the Mountain West."

All 3 were factored in as at large....

Again, it would be embarrassing...