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JordansBulls
02-13-2009, 10:16 PM
What were some of the best teams on paper that should have done much better than they did in a NBA season?

A team that comes to mind is the 1989 and 1990 Atlanta Hawks.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ATL/1989.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ATL/1990.html

This is one of those teams who you would expect to make some serious noise in the playoffs. They had Dominique Wilkins and Moses Malone who although 33/34 years old was getting you 20 and 12 in 1989 and (19 and 10 in 1990).

Dominique Wilkins (26 ppg and 7 reb - regular season) and (27 ppg and 5 reb - playoffs)
Moses Malone (20 ppg and 12 reb - regular season) and (21 ppg and 12 reb - playoffs)

They also had Doc Rivers, Spud Webb, Reggie Theus and another big man in Kevin Willis to name a few.

In 1989 they lost in the first round and won 52 games but they lost in the first round of the playoffs to Milwaukee (who had Moncrief, Cummings, Pierce, Sikma, etc)

People say Dominque didn't have the help, but when he did have the help the team couldn't do much.


In 1990 they were 41-41 and didn't even make the playoffs and both Dominque and Moses Malone played 80+ games.

This was a team that underachieved big time.


What other teams come to mind that seemed that like they would be good, but weren't that good together?

IndyRealist
02-14-2009, 01:13 AM
Alonzo Mourning, Mugsy Bogues, Larry Johnson on the Charlotte Hornets.

2003/04 Indiana Pacers. :bang:

Kevin Johnson, Charles Barkley, Dan Marjerle on the Phoenix Suns.

Any team Grant Hill has been on.

JordansBulls
02-14-2009, 01:38 AM
Alonzo Mourning, Mugsy Bogues, Larry Johnson on the Charlotte Hornets.

2003/04 Indiana Pacers. :bang:

Kevin Johnson, Charles Barkley, Dan Marjerle on the Phoenix Suns.

Any team Grant Hill has been on.

Yeah those Hornets teams were loaded. They ended up beating the Celtics one year though and that was the last of the C's.

The 2004 Pacers won 61 games and made the Conference finals, so they at least did decently. I think I am more talking about good teams that ended up either losing in the 1st round or didn't even make the playoffs.

Hellcrooner
02-14-2009, 07:16 AM
I think the 80s 90s cavs should have done better with Harper, Price, Nance, Hot Rod, Daugherty, Ehlo etc etc.

Other two teams that should have acomplished something would be the 80s Mavs and Nuggets.

Come On, Harper, Blackman, Aguirre, Perkins, Tarpley, short stitns of Schrempf Lever....

and nuggets with adams, Vandeweghe, english, Issel, thompson, those where two hell of teams.

basketfan4life
02-14-2009, 08:44 AM
the 2004 through 2008 suns..
nash-amare-marion-jj-qrich all been there..but they couldn't pass spurs,never..

Missing56&33
02-14-2009, 04:15 PM
I grew up watching and going to Nets games at Brendan Byrne arena, the 84' 85' Nets showed flashes of promise, Michael Ray Richardson, Mike Gminski, Darrly Dawkins, Buck Williams Otis Birdsong, Albert King& Mike O'Koren this was a good team that made the playoffs with a 42-40 rec lost to the pistons 3-0 first round. The year before they upset Philly(with Dr. J and Moses Malone) 3-2 in the first round. I think we all know about Sugar Ray and his misfortune, that was the key factor in letting the pistons take there place in the eastern conference......thus the Boston vs Pistons rivalry.

BarryIsInnocent
02-14-2009, 04:39 PM
98-03 lakers. They won 3, but had kobe not freaked out, they could have won 8 or 10 titles

Hellcrooner
02-14-2009, 04:41 PM
I grew up watching and going to Nets games at Brendan Byrne arena, the 84' 85' Nets showed flashes of promise, Michael Ray Richardson, Mike Gminski, Darrly Dawkins, Buck Williams Otis Birdsong, Albert King& Mike O'Koren this was a good team that made the playoffs with a 42-40 rec lost to the pistons 3-0 first round. The year before they upset Philly(with Dr. J and Moses Malone) 3-2 in the first round. I think we all know about Sugar Ray and his misfortune, that was the key factor in letting the pistons take there place in the eastern conference......thus the Boston vs Pistons rivalry.
Otis Birdsong was a hell of a player, Gminski and Dawkin well not so much, they ended up here in Spain in THaT era, not a good thing.

Ray Richardson sadly was too much of a head case, but not a bad team.

I loved Buck williams.

black1605
02-14-2009, 04:42 PM
1992-1993 Hornets were pretty stacked, 4 players averaging 15 plus

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHH/1993.html

IndyRealist
02-14-2009, 05:59 PM
90's Mavericks? Jason Kidd, Jamaal Mashburn, Jimmy Jackson, George McCloud, Popeye Jones? I think Tony Dumas and Chris Gatling were on that team as well. Great team, full of talent. But injuries and bickering led the Mavs to blow it all up and trade off the entire roster.

JordansBulls
02-14-2009, 06:20 PM
1984 Sixers was another team. They won the title the year before and proceeded to lose in round 1 in 1984.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb0bLsolTjg

MJ-BULLS
02-14-2009, 07:26 PM
1984 Sixers was another team. They won the title the year before and proceeded to lose in round 1 in 1984.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb0bLsolTjg

hey i was about to say the 1984 sixers:)

lakerboy
02-14-2009, 10:53 PM
The Steve Nash led Phoenix Suns IMO.

Look at their team:

Mike D'Antoni - Coach of the Year

Starting 5

Shawn Marion - Allstar
Amare Stoudamire - Allstar
Steve Nash - Allstar, 2x MVP

Barbosa - 6th Man of the Year
Diaw - Most Improved Player
Bell - Defensive Player of the Year consideration

MDA RYDERS
02-14-2009, 11:10 PM
the bulls if Jordan never retired i think they could have won 9 in a row

C_A_S_H
02-14-2009, 11:18 PM
The Sun Wen They Had There Starting Line Up Like
Amare Stoudamire
Shawn Marion
Quentin Richardson
Joe Johnson
Steve Nash

kozelkid
02-15-2009, 12:18 AM
90s rockets when they had barkley, dream, and drexler. I mean ya, there was MJ but they couldnt get past jazz either after winning 2 in a row.

JordansBulls
02-15-2009, 01:49 AM
90s rockets when they had barkley, dream, and drexler. I mean ya, there was MJ but they couldnt get past jazz either after winning 2 in a row.

1996 they lost to Seattle. They didn't get the big 3 until 1997.

Hellcrooner
02-15-2009, 05:40 AM
the bulls if Jordan never retired i think they could have won 9 in a row

MJ wearing #45 they were eliminated from the playoffs WITH HIM on 1995.

Time to end the stupid mith, he WAS defeated.