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Wade_County
02-11-2009, 05:03 PM
As Phoenix Suns owner Robert Sarver reaches out to other NBA owners and proposes his own trade deals for Amare Stoudemire, he could be undermining his franchise’s chance to get the best possible package for the All-Star forward, league sources said.

NBA executives say that Sarver has contacted team owners – including those of the Sacramento Kings and Memphis Grizzlies – in an attempt to broker a deal for Stoudemire. While the Suns’ basketball executives are discussing one possible package with teams, Sarver has, at times, appeared to be pursuing his own agenda.


Some teams believe this is a circumstance they can exploit, and suggest that Suns GM Steve Kerr and David Griffin, the franchise’s VP of basketball operations, have been compromised.

“It makes [the owner] look too motivated,” said one Western Conference GM who was aware of Sarver’s calls. “It makes them look desperate.”

As an Eastern Conference GM wondered: “What in the world are two owners going to come up with that the GMs haven’t already discussed?

“This is how bad deals happen.”

“As managing partner of the Suns, no difference from any CEO responsible for any company, you have responsibility for the ultimate results of an organization,” Sarver said by phone Wednesday morning. “And as such, when it comes to major decisions – basketball or business – I will become heavily involved just as I have been the last five years.”

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AqZ0BOtmnlZBxt.dkbM9dTS8vLYF?slug=aw-sunstrades021109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

thesparky33
02-11-2009, 08:31 PM
Sounds like horrible situation for Suns fans... I'm just glad as a Wolves fan that we got the best possible deal for Garnett, and am pretty thankful as well. For as much as everyone rips on McHale and Taylor (owner), they could have totally butchered the Garnett trade, and that could have set us back even further, like in the 10-20 year range.

Duncan = Donkey
02-11-2009, 08:38 PM
robert sarver is such a cheap ***, he does not care about the suns as a team. trades
1st rounders for cash, who does that?? he's an embarrasment. he is ruining thios franchise

GunFactor187
02-11-2009, 08:45 PM
NEVER EVER have an owner tamper with personnel!!!!

ink
02-11-2009, 08:50 PM
Link? The thread doesn't stay open without a link.

ItsTheLastAce
02-11-2009, 08:56 PM
makes them look too desperate, their gonna sell themselves short

Tblaze
02-11-2009, 09:00 PM
I hope we're able to pick him up cheap.

GHOSTSNIPER
02-11-2009, 09:04 PM
NEVER EVER have an owner tamper with personnel!!!!

Try saying that to a life long Raider fan :,(

Badluck33
02-11-2009, 09:04 PM
^^^
portland has no chance. Unless they give up Aldridge.

leftie5
02-11-2009, 09:05 PM
Yet another reason to despise Sarver. He is such a moron.

MJ-BULLS
02-11-2009, 09:06 PM
the suns are going to be a mess in the future

Kyben36
02-11-2009, 09:07 PM
^ It doesnt sould like you guys want to give up Oden, Aldridge or Roy, so what do you expect to give up. Your picks arnt worth **** anymore. You do have some youg players and a nice expiring but I think the fact you guys are in the West doesnt help your cause at all. By the way, why do you guys need Oden, Aldridge and Amare. 3 realy realy good big men. none an obvious 2nd string guy.

Gibby23
02-11-2009, 09:09 PM
Link? The thread doesn't stay open without a link.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-sunstrades021109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Gibby23
02-11-2009, 09:10 PM
I bet the Kings get him with Miller,Thompson, 1st round pick and it will be a good pick next year.

elnino9
02-11-2009, 09:10 PM
i cant see how this trade is not going to happen after this. someone is going to get a great deal.

T.O.Fan:)
02-11-2009, 09:15 PM
Link? The thread doesn't stay open without a link.

:confused:

fairandbalanced
02-11-2009, 09:16 PM
yea, I heard he was robbed by Madoff. j/k

The guys is broke and he has to shed salaries. He's looking for cheap stars and expiring contracts.

lakers4sho
02-11-2009, 09:17 PM
:confused:

Obviously ink edited the post, adding the link to it :rolleyes:

G-Funk
02-11-2009, 09:19 PM
the suns are going to be a mess in the future

like always

ragee
02-11-2009, 09:20 PM
robert sarver is such a cheap ***, he does not care about the suns as a team. trades
1st rounders for cash, who does that?? he's an embarrasment. he is ruining thios franchise

Yeah... Rudy would have been a good fit for you guys... Nice steal for us though...

NYMetros
02-11-2009, 09:24 PM
I think this pretty much clinches the fact that Ama're Stoudemire will not be on the Phoenix Suns after the trade deadline. This is a pretty weird situation when the owneer feels the need to jump in the trade discussion. I'm not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing though.

elopez24
02-11-2009, 09:42 PM
Dallas Mavericks

Incoming Players
Leandro Barbosa
Salary: $6,100,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 12.9 REB: 2.4 AST: 1.8 PER: 18.63

Mark Blount
Salary: $8,513,916 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 4.0 REB: 1.9 AST: 0.2 PER: 9.31

Shaquille O'Neal
Salary: $21,000,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.5 REB: 9.0 AST: 1.6 PER: 21.66

Dallas gets point guard that fits better gets shaq to make a run in playoffs and 21 mill off the books in 2010,the kidd trade never worked out for dallas
Outgoing Players: Josh Howard, Jason Kidd

Miami Heat

Incoming Players
Josh Howard
Salary: $9,945,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.9 REB: 5.0 AST: 1.7 PER: 16.26

Jermaine O'Neal
Salary: $21,372,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 13.7 REB: 7.0 AST: 1.6 PER: 16.35

Amare Stoudemire
Salary: $15,070,550 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 20.8 REB: 8.2 AST: 2.0 PER: 20.14

Matt Barnes
Salary: $797,581 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 9.5 REB: 5.2 AST: 2.1 PER: 11.26

Obtained with a trade exception
Miami gets alot of talent and an automatic fav in the east .... forget 2010 if you get rid of beasley we make a run now ...
Outgoing Players: Mark Blount, Shawn Marion, Daequan Cook, Udonis Haslem, Michael Beasley

Phoenix Suns

Incoming Players
Daequan Cook
Salary: $1,273,200 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.3 REB: 2.5 AST: 1.1 PER: 11.30

Udonis Haslem
Salary: $6,575,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.8 REB: 8.4 AST: 1.3 PER: 13.45

Jason Kidd
Salary: $21,372,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 8.9 REB: 6.3 AST: 8.4 PER: 17.29

Michael Beasley
Salary: $4,314,960 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 13.2 REB: 5.2 AST: 0.9 PER: 15.20

Anthony Parker
Salary: $4,550,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 10.3 REB: 3.7 AST: 3.3 PER: 11.85

suns get rid of alot of money and they gain a kidd expiring contract and they get young talent plus a plus future miami 1st and 2 round pick
Outgoing Players: Leandro Barbosa, Jason Richardson, Shaquille O'Neal, Grant Hill, Amare Stoudemire, Matt Barnes

Toronto Raptors

Incoming Players
Shawn Marion
Salary: $17,810,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 12.0 REB: 8.7 AST: 1.8 PER: 15.78

Jason Richardson
Salary: $12,222,221 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 16.8 REB: 4.4 AST: 2.2 PER: 15.72

Grant Hill
Salary: $1,976,400 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 11.0 REB: 4.8 AST: 1.8 PER: 14.46

raptors get better with this trade get a scoring guard which they lack , would fit better with bosh and 17 mill off the books with marion contract...
Outgoing Players: Jermaine O'Neal, Anthony Parker

cliff s
02-11-2009, 09:46 PM
^ It doesnt sould like you guys want to give up Oden, Aldridge or Roy, so what do you expect to give up. Your picks arnt worth **** anymore. You do have some youg players and a nice expiring but I think the fact you guys are in the West doesnt help your cause at all. By the way, why do you guys need Oden, Aldridge and Amare. 3 realy realy good big men. none an obvious 2nd string guy.

i noticed you are a bulls, bears, sox and florida fan, i am too, i moved to florida seven years ago, i live 50 miles from gainsville, since i have been here florida has won two each basketball & football championship, but i am a die hard sox fan, cannot stand the stadium in tampa anyway i would love the bulls to trade hughes and gordon or gooden for shaq, amare is too much of a risk, shaq is what we need and he will be gone in time to get wade or bosh or both we also need an upgrade at shooting guard, in next years draft we can get t evans from memphis or derozen from usc, paxson must do something and soon

kntresistheheat
02-11-2009, 09:47 PM
This looks great, but it would never happend???? I wish it would:D







Dallas Mavericks

Incoming Players
Leandro Barbosa
Salary: $6,100,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 12.9 REB: 2.4 AST: 1.8 PER: 18.63

Mark Blount
Salary: $8,513,916 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 4.0 REB: 1.9 AST: 0.2 PER: 9.31

Shaquille O'Neal
Salary: $21,000,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.5 REB: 9.0 AST: 1.6 PER: 21.66

Dallas gets point guard that fits better gets shaq to make a run in playoffs and 21 mill off the books in 2010,the kidd trade never worked out for dallas
Outgoing Players: Josh Howard, Jason Kidd

Miami Heat

Incoming Players
Josh Howard
Salary: $9,945,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.9 REB: 5.0 AST: 1.7 PER: 16.26

Jermaine O'Neal
Salary: $21,372,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 13.7 REB: 7.0 AST: 1.6 PER: 16.35

Amare Stoudemire
Salary: $15,070,550 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 20.8 REB: 8.2 AST: 2.0 PER: 20.14

Matt Barnes
Salary: $797,581 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 9.5 REB: 5.2 AST: 2.1 PER: 11.26

Obtained with a trade exception
Miami gets alot of talent and an automatic fav in the east .... forget 2010 if you get rid of beasley we make a run now ...
Outgoing Players: Mark Blount, Shawn Marion, Daequan Cook, Udonis Haslem, Michael Beasley

Phoenix Suns

Incoming Players
Daequan Cook
Salary: $1,273,200 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.3 REB: 2.5 AST: 1.1 PER: 11.30

Udonis Haslem
Salary: $6,575,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.8 REB: 8.4 AST: 1.3 PER: 13.45

Jason Kidd
Salary: $21,372,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 8.9 REB: 6.3 AST: 8.4 PER: 17.29

Michael Beasley
Salary: $4,314,960 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 13.2 REB: 5.2 AST: 0.9 PER: 15.20

Anthony Parker
Salary: $4,550,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 10.3 REB: 3.7 AST: 3.3 PER: 11.85

suns get rid of alot of money and they gain a kidd expiring contract and they get young talent plus a plus future miami 1st and 2 round pick
Outgoing Players: Leandro Barbosa, Jason Richardson, Shaquille O'Neal, Grant Hill, Amare Stoudemire, Matt Barnes

Toronto Raptors

Incoming Players
Shawn Marion
Salary: $17,810,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 12.0 REB: 8.7 AST: 1.8 PER: 15.78

Jason Richardson
Salary: $12,222,221 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 16.8 REB: 4.4 AST: 2.2 PER: 15.72

Grant Hill
Salary: $1,976,400 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 11.0 REB: 4.8 AST: 1.8 PER: 14.46

raptors get better with this trade get a scoring guard which they lack , would fit better with bosh and 17 mill off the books with marion contract...
Outgoing Players: Jermaine O'Neal, Anthony Parker

barbjake
02-11-2009, 09:47 PM
Dallas Mavericks

Incoming Players
Leandro Barbosa
Salary: $6,100,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 12.9 REB: 2.4 AST: 1.8 PER: 18.63

Mark Blount
Salary: $8,513,916 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 4.0 REB: 1.9 AST: 0.2 PER: 9.31

Shaquille O'Neal
Salary: $21,000,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.5 REB: 9.0 AST: 1.6 PER: 21.66

Dallas gets point guard that fits better gets shaq to make a run in playoffs and 21 mill off the books in 2010,the kidd trade never worked out for dallas
Outgoing Players: Josh Howard, Jason Kidd

Miami Heat

Incoming Players
Josh Howard
Salary: $9,945,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.9 REB: 5.0 AST: 1.7 PER: 16.26

Jermaine O'Neal
Salary: $21,372,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 13.7 REB: 7.0 AST: 1.6 PER: 16.35

Amare Stoudemire
Salary: $15,070,550 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 20.8 REB: 8.2 AST: 2.0 PER: 20.14

Matt Barnes
Salary: $797,581 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 9.5 REB: 5.2 AST: 2.1 PER: 11.26

Obtained with a trade exception
Miami gets alot of talent and an automatic fav in the east .... forget 2010 if you get rid of beasley we make a run now ...
Outgoing Players: Mark Blount, Shawn Marion, Daequan Cook, Udonis Haslem, Michael Beasley

Phoenix Suns

Incoming Players
Daequan Cook
Salary: $1,273,200 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.3 REB: 2.5 AST: 1.1 PER: 11.30

Udonis Haslem
Salary: $6,575,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.8 REB: 8.4 AST: 1.3 PER: 13.45

Jason Kidd
Salary: $21,372,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 8.9 REB: 6.3 AST: 8.4 PER: 17.29

Michael Beasley
Salary: $4,314,960 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 13.2 REB: 5.2 AST: 0.9 PER: 15.20

Anthony Parker
Salary: $4,550,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 10.3 REB: 3.7 AST: 3.3 PER: 11.85

suns get rid of alot of money and they gain a kidd expiring contract and they get young talent plus a plus future miami 1st and 2 round pick
Outgoing Players: Leandro Barbosa, Jason Richardson, Shaquille O'Neal, Grant Hill, Amare Stoudemire, Matt Barnes

Toronto Raptors

Incoming Players
Shawn Marion
Salary: $17,810,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 12.0 REB: 8.7 AST: 1.8 PER: 15.78

Jason Richardson
Salary: $12,222,221 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 16.8 REB: 4.4 AST: 2.2 PER: 15.72

Grant Hill
Salary: $1,976,400 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 11.0 REB: 4.8 AST: 1.8 PER: 14.46

raptors get better with this trade get a scoring guard which they lack , would fit better with bosh and 17 mill off the books with marion contract...
Outgoing Players: Jermaine O'Neal, Anthony Parker

:clap::confused:

A 4 team 15-player trade that involves hundred millions dollars in salaries. This may be a perfect trade on NBA live, but it would/could never happen in real life.

Jacob K.
02-11-2009, 09:50 PM
Dallas Mavericks

Incoming Players
Leandro Barbosa
Salary: $6,100,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 12.9 REB: 2.4 AST: 1.8 PER: 18.63

Mark Blount
Salary: $8,513,916 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 4.0 REB: 1.9 AST: 0.2 PER: 9.31

Shaquille O'Neal
Salary: $21,000,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.5 REB: 9.0 AST: 1.6 PER: 21.66

Dallas gets point guard that fits better gets shaq to make a run in playoffs and 21 mill off the books in 2010,the kidd trade never worked out for dallas
Outgoing Players: Josh Howard, Jason Kidd

Miami Heat

Incoming Players
Josh Howard
Salary: $9,945,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.9 REB: 5.0 AST: 1.7 PER: 16.26

Jermaine O'Neal
Salary: $21,372,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 13.7 REB: 7.0 AST: 1.6 PER: 16.35

Amare Stoudemire
Salary: $15,070,550 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 20.8 REB: 8.2 AST: 2.0 PER: 20.14

Matt Barnes
Salary: $797,581 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 9.5 REB: 5.2 AST: 2.1 PER: 11.26

Obtained with a trade exception
Miami gets alot of talent and an automatic fav in the east .... forget 2010 if you get rid of beasley we make a run now ...
Outgoing Players: Mark Blount, Shawn Marion, Daequan Cook, Udonis Haslem, Michael Beasley

Phoenix Suns

Incoming Players
Daequan Cook
Salary: $1,273,200 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.3 REB: 2.5 AST: 1.1 PER: 11.30

Udonis Haslem
Salary: $6,575,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.8 REB: 8.4 AST: 1.3 PER: 13.45

Jason Kidd
Salary: $21,372,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 8.9 REB: 6.3 AST: 8.4 PER: 17.29

Michael Beasley
Salary: $4,314,960 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 13.2 REB: 5.2 AST: 0.9 PER: 15.20

Anthony Parker
Salary: $4,550,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 10.3 REB: 3.7 AST: 3.3 PER: 11.85

suns get rid of alot of money and they gain a kidd expiring contract and they get young talent plus a plus future miami 1st and 2 round pick
Outgoing Players: Leandro Barbosa, Jason Richardson, Shaquille O'Neal, Grant Hill, Amare Stoudemire, Matt Barnes

Toronto Raptors

Incoming Players
Shawn Marion
Salary: $17,810,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 12.0 REB: 8.7 AST: 1.8 PER: 15.78

Jason Richardson
Salary: $12,222,221 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 16.8 REB: 4.4 AST: 2.2 PER: 15.72

Grant Hill
Salary: $1,976,400 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 11.0 REB: 4.8 AST: 1.8 PER: 14.46

raptors get better with this trade get a scoring guard which they lack , would fit better with bosh and 17 mill off the books with marion contract...
Outgoing Players: Jermaine O'Neal, Anthony Parker

uhh.. this isnt nba live you realize?;)

jrodmesche
02-11-2009, 10:00 PM
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo so thats why the heats offer was rejected

shortlunatic
02-11-2009, 10:29 PM
wow thats pretty bad...honestly im glad cuz it pretty much means hell be gone for sure by trade deadline...but if i wer a suns fan, i probably wudnt wanna be one anymore as you can realize that the managment is interested in something else more than putting together a championship caliber team

theimortalone
02-11-2009, 10:32 PM
****ing idiot Sarver! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Beno7500
02-11-2009, 10:32 PM
Get him to the kings!

theimortalone
02-11-2009, 10:33 PM
Dallas Mavericks

Incoming Players
Leandro Barbosa
Salary: $6,100,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 12.9 REB: 2.4 AST: 1.8 PER: 18.63

Mark Blount
Salary: $8,513,916 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 4.0 REB: 1.9 AST: 0.2 PER: 9.31

Shaquille O'Neal
Salary: $21,000,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.5 REB: 9.0 AST: 1.6 PER: 21.66

Dallas gets point guard that fits better gets shaq to make a run in playoffs and 21 mill off the books in 2010,the kidd trade never worked out for dallas
Outgoing Players: Josh Howard, Jason Kidd

Miami Heat

Incoming Players
Josh Howard
Salary: $9,945,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.9 REB: 5.0 AST: 1.7 PER: 16.26

Jermaine O'Neal
Salary: $21,372,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 13.7 REB: 7.0 AST: 1.6 PER: 16.35

Amare Stoudemire
Salary: $15,070,550 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 20.8 REB: 8.2 AST: 2.0 PER: 20.14

Matt Barnes
Salary: $797,581 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 9.5 REB: 5.2 AST: 2.1 PER: 11.26

Obtained with a trade exception
Miami gets alot of talent and an automatic fav in the east .... forget 2010 if you get rid of beasley we make a run now ...
Outgoing Players: Mark Blount, Shawn Marion, Daequan Cook, Udonis Haslem, Michael Beasley

Phoenix Suns

Incoming Players
Daequan Cook
Salary: $1,273,200 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.3 REB: 2.5 AST: 1.1 PER: 11.30

Udonis Haslem
Salary: $6,575,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.8 REB: 8.4 AST: 1.3 PER: 13.45

Jason Kidd
Salary: $21,372,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 8.9 REB: 6.3 AST: 8.4 PER: 17.29

Michael Beasley
Salary: $4,314,960 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 13.2 REB: 5.2 AST: 0.9 PER: 15.20

Anthony Parker
Salary: $4,550,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 10.3 REB: 3.7 AST: 3.3 PER: 11.85

suns get rid of alot of money and they gain a kidd expiring contract and they get young talent plus a plus future miami 1st and 2 round pick
Outgoing Players: Leandro Barbosa, Jason Richardson, Shaquille O'Neal, Grant Hill, Amare Stoudemire, Matt Barnes

Toronto Raptors

Incoming Players
Shawn Marion
Salary: $17,810,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 12.0 REB: 8.7 AST: 1.8 PER: 15.78

Jason Richardson
Salary: $12,222,221 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 16.8 REB: 4.4 AST: 2.2 PER: 15.72

Grant Hill
Salary: $1,976,400 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 11.0 REB: 4.8 AST: 1.8 PER: 14.46

raptors get better with this trade get a scoring guard which they lack , would fit better with bosh and 17 mill off the books with marion contract...
Outgoing Players: Jermaine O'Neal, Anthony Parker

You're :crazy!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh: Never gonna happen dude!

Deezy Dee 24
02-11-2009, 10:44 PM
i hope they trade him to memphis

shortlunatic
02-11-2009, 10:46 PM
i hope they trade him to memphis

when did they enter into the trade rumors??

GregOden#1
02-11-2009, 10:50 PM
The Suns need cash, enter RLEC. His contract is 80% covered by insurance, making it roughly 5 million dollars of free money. Portland doesn't want Amare, so they're proposing a three way (btw the Raef+Aldridge+Bayless deal is completely BS, if Portland was offering that Amare would be suiting up for Portland tonight). Whatever the case Portland are probably going to make off like bandits.

-Juice-
02-11-2009, 10:59 PM
Sarver lost $250 million this year. No wonder he is being so cheap.

Deezy Dee 24
02-11-2009, 11:00 PM
when did they enter into the trade rumors??

they reported the suns and grizzlies talking sunday.

shortlunatic
02-11-2009, 11:09 PM
The Suns need cash, enter RLEC. His contract is 80% covered by insurance, making it roughly 5 million dollars of free money. Portland doesn't want Amare, so they're proposing a three way (btw the Raef+Aldridge+Bayless deal is completely BS, if Portland was offering that Amare would be suiting up for Portland tonight). Whatever the case Portland are probably going to make off like bandits.

Exactly the only reason i didnt think portland had a good chance b4 would be because they wudnt offer aldridge, but the fact that supposedly they did you know its not true cuz it wud have gone thru by now...there wudnt be any deal that could top that

Punkindrublic03
02-11-2009, 11:11 PM
suns are F'd

JordansBulls
02-11-2009, 11:11 PM
Hurry up Paxson. Get a deal done.

GregOden#1
02-11-2009, 11:15 PM
Exactly the only reason i didnt think portland had a good chance b4 would be because they wudnt offer aldridge, but the fact that supposedly they did you know its not true cuz it wud have gone thru by now...there wudnt be any deal that could top that

I'm saying, if Portland deals, they're going to get the best end of the deal easily. Something like Mike Conley and Michael Beasley to Portland for RLEC and Outlaw. Not even kidding either.

Drtino
02-11-2009, 11:15 PM
Dallas Mavericks

Incoming Players
Leandro Barbosa
Salary: $6,100,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 12.9 REB: 2.4 AST: 1.8 PER: 18.63

Mark Blount
Salary: $8,513,916 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 4.0 REB: 1.9 AST: 0.2 PER: 9.31

Shaquille O'Neal
Salary: $21,000,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.5 REB: 9.0 AST: 1.6 PER: 21.66

Dallas gets point guard that fits better gets shaq to make a run in playoffs and 21 mill off the books in 2010,the kidd trade never worked out for dallas
Outgoing Players: Josh Howard, Jason Kidd

Miami Heat

Incoming Players
Josh Howard
Salary: $9,945,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.9 REB: 5.0 AST: 1.7 PER: 16.26

Jermaine O'Neal
Salary: $21,372,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 13.7 REB: 7.0 AST: 1.6 PER: 16.35

Amare Stoudemire
Salary: $15,070,550 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 20.8 REB: 8.2 AST: 2.0 PER: 20.14

Matt Barnes
Salary: $797,581 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 9.5 REB: 5.2 AST: 2.1 PER: 11.26

Obtained with a trade exception
Miami gets alot of talent and an automatic fav in the east .... forget 2010 if you get rid of beasley we make a run now ...
Outgoing Players: Mark Blount, Shawn Marion, Daequan Cook, Udonis Haslem, Michael Beasley

Phoenix Suns

Incoming Players
Daequan Cook
Salary: $1,273,200 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.3 REB: 2.5 AST: 1.1 PER: 11.30

Udonis Haslem
Salary: $6,575,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.8 REB: 8.4 AST: 1.3 PER: 13.45

Jason Kidd
Salary: $21,372,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 8.9 REB: 6.3 AST: 8.4 PER: 17.29

Michael Beasley
Salary: $4,314,960 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 13.2 REB: 5.2 AST: 0.9 PER: 15.20

Anthony Parker
Salary: $4,550,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 10.3 REB: 3.7 AST: 3.3 PER: 11.85

suns get rid of alot of money and they gain a kidd expiring contract and they get young talent plus a plus future miami 1st and 2 round pick
Outgoing Players: Leandro Barbosa, Jason Richardson, Shaquille O'Neal, Grant Hill, Amare Stoudemire, Matt Barnes

Toronto Raptors

Incoming Players
Shawn Marion
Salary: $17,810,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 12.0 REB: 8.7 AST: 1.8 PER: 15.78

Jason Richardson
Salary: $12,222,221 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 16.8 REB: 4.4 AST: 2.2 PER: 15.72

Grant Hill
Salary: $1,976,400 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 11.0 REB: 4.8 AST: 1.8 PER: 14.46

raptors get better with this trade get a scoring guard which they lack , would fit better with bosh and 17 mill off the books with marion contract...
Outgoing Players: Jermaine O'Neal, Anthony Parker

Any trade involving Jermaine O'neal is a bad one... sorry.

FunctionalAware
02-11-2009, 11:18 PM
sarver is easily one of the worst owners in the nba. dolan beats him out.

perhaps these 2 should get together and figure out how each can screw over the fans a bit more

JordansBulls
02-11-2009, 11:18 PM
The Suns need cash, enter RLEC. His contract is 80% covered by insurance, making it roughly 5 million dollars of free money. Portland doesn't want Amare, so they're proposing a three way (btw the Raef+Aldridge+Bayless deal is completely BS, if Portland was offering that Amare would be suiting up for Portland tonight). Whatever the case Portland are probably going to make off like bandits.

Yeah I just don't see why Portland would do that. They have 3 solid guys to build around. No need to compromise anything getting a guy who wants to be the man.

GregOden#1
02-11-2009, 11:25 PM
Check this ******** trade out:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1727~454~2015~111~3195~2171~34 18~510&teams=14~21~21~22~22~22~22~29&te=&cash=

Yeah normally this would have no chance in hell of happening. But PHO gets an expiring that gives them cash now (roughly 5 mill from insurance) and later (when he expires) and Outlaw has a TO if they dont want to resign him. Miami gets a good deal and has a chance to make a playoff push, Memphis gets a great deal for their crappy contracts and Mike Conley....

...and Portland....hahahahahaha just the thought of that team makes me wet

futureman
02-11-2009, 11:25 PM
Maybe they'll take kirilenko for shaq. LOL!

Drtino
02-11-2009, 11:27 PM
Yeah I just don't see why Portland would do that. They have 3 solid guys to build around. No need to compromise anything getting a guy who wants to be the man.

If that's what you think then the Nets have a chance...:D

PhillyForLife90
02-11-2009, 11:27 PM
This is getting interesting. Its looking like Amare won't be a Sun much longer.

Drtino
02-11-2009, 11:31 PM
Check this ******** trade out:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1727~454~2015~111~3195~2171~34 18~510&teams=14~21~21~22~22~22~22~29&te=&cash=

Yeah normally this would have no chance in hell of happening. But PHO gets an expiring that gives them cash now (roughly 5 mill from insurance) and later (when he expires) and Outlaw has a TO if they dont want to resign him. Miami gets a good deal and has a chance to make a playoff push, Memphis gets a great deal for their crappy contracts and Mike Conley....

...and Portland....hahahahahaha just the thought of that team makes me wet

You're right ... crazy deal...Lol.... but you went on with the details thinking it was a good trade... you're probably nightdreaming bud...:D

Drtino
02-11-2009, 11:33 PM
This is getting interesting. Its looking like Amare won't be a Sun much longer.

I am going to sleep and still hope that Amare becomes a Net tomorrow...:pray:

GregOden#1
02-11-2009, 11:35 PM
It's a good deal for everyone but Phoenix. From a talent perspective anyway, but Sarver has been hit really really hard by the economy, he's already lost 250 million in the stock market and I dont think he's a billionaire. From an economical standpoint it's a good deal, it's more money saved than any other team can offer and that's big for Phoenix. If Sarver really wants Amare gone for cap space he'd do this trade, and that's really the only team who woudn't do this trade (IMO).

shortlunatic
02-11-2009, 11:47 PM
I am going to sleep and still hope that Amare becomes a Net tomorrow...:pray:


You're kinda behind bro. The Nets wer kicked outta dis race like 2 days ago. The Nets already told the press that they talked to the Suns unproductivley, meaning Phoenix wasnt interested in anything they had to offer

Sport
02-12-2009, 12:04 AM
I dont know what the obsession with trading Amare is, but I agree they should shop Shaq and atleast see what they can get for him.

IndyRealist
02-12-2009, 12:17 AM
Amare Stoudamire to the Pacers for Jarret Jack, Rasho Nesterovic, Marquis Daniels and 2009 unprotected and 2011 top 5 protected draft picks. All contracts are expiring, and they still get parts they need (backup for Nash, a big guard to play along side Barbosa, a passing jump shooting big man to complement Shaq). You could actually pretend this was a basketball trade, and not a financial one.

Plus, the Suns can rest assured that Stoudamire would not stay in Indiana. It's too cold, too small a market, and we can't give him a max contract in 2010. He'd just be on loan to get our attendance up.

shortlunatic
02-12-2009, 12:18 AM
I dont know what the obsession with trading Amare is, but I agree they should shop Shaq and atleast see what they can get for him.


I'm obsessed with getting Amare because hes perfect for Rose. He likes to run like rose, and rose will be more than happy to dish him the ball down low. Chicago really needs a player of amare's talent...its been long enough w/o one

STAT1
02-12-2009, 12:26 AM
Check this ******** trade out:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1727~454~2015~111~3195~2171~34 18~510&teams=14~21~21~22~22~22~22~29&te=&cash=

Yeah normally this would have no chance in hell of happening. But PHO gets an expiring that gives them cash now (roughly 5 mill from insurance) and later (when he expires) and Outlaw has a TO if they dont want to resign him. Miami gets a good deal and has a chance to make a playoff push, Memphis gets a great deal for their crappy contracts and Mike Conley....

...and Portland....hahahahahaha just the thought of that team makes me wet

sorry to insult yo but how dumb can you be? besides everyone getting raped besides portland, why would you want Beasley? u have LA and oden. You get him and Conley? hahaa 2 top ten draft pick for outlaw and raef. keep wetdreaming..never going to happen

STAT1
02-12-2009, 12:28 AM
Maybe they'll take kirilenko for shaq. LOL!

hahah done deal.

shortlunatic
02-12-2009, 12:32 AM
Check this ******** trade out:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1727~454~2015~111~3195~2171~34 18~510&teams=14~21~21~22~22~22~22~29&te=&cash=

Yeah normally this would have no chance in hell of happening. But PHO gets an expiring that gives them cash now (roughly 5 mill from insurance) and later (when he expires) and Outlaw has a TO if they dont want to resign him. Miami gets a good deal and has a chance to make a playoff push, Memphis gets a great deal for their crappy contracts and Mike Conley....

...and Portland....hahahahahaha just the thought of that team makes me wet


So the Suns trade their best player (an all star starter) for Raef Lafrentz and Travis Outlaw????:confused:

danimal
02-12-2009, 12:40 AM
So the Suns trade their best player (an all star starter) for Raef Lafrentz and Travis Outlaw????:confused:

Yeah, it's pretty mind boggling. They would have to be getting about 8 first round picks to consider that..

LakeShowRaider
02-12-2009, 12:54 AM
HAHA this is what that dumb owner get! I remember when he was like "I hate the Laker" and all the BS just cuz his team was doing ok for lke 3 years. All i gotta say is the Suns getting what the deserve!!!

LOOK WHOS LAUGHING NOW!!

wtfhendry
02-12-2009, 12:56 AM
AMARE is coming to chicago i will say it over and overagain i know so thats my reason

GregOden#1
02-12-2009, 12:57 AM
So the Suns trade their best player (an all star starter) for Raef Lafrentz and Travis Outlaw????:confused:

That's the point. It's ********, and it's likely to happen. Swap Bayless for Travis and it's the deal that almost happened, except Amare is moved to Miami and players come back to Portland.

shortlunatic
02-12-2009, 01:06 AM
That's the point. It's ********, and it's likely to happen. Swap Bayless for Travis and it's the deal that almost happened, except Amare is moved to Miami and players come back to Portland.

I dont get you. And as far as I heard, the Portland trade was BS and wouldnt happen because it makes no sense to give up aldridge and bayless for stoudemire. If I were in Portland i wudnt want that to go through at all, its too much of a risk

wtfhendry
02-12-2009, 01:06 AM
Most Stoudemire suitors believe the Bulls have the chance to offer the best package, which could include the expiring contract of Drew Gooden, rapidly emerging forward Tyrus Thomas, Joakim Noah and possibly a draft pick. Bulls GM John Paxson recently had his assistant, director of player personnel Gar Forman, return to Chicago from the college scouting trail to pore over trade possibilities with him. The Bulls are clearly determined to land Stoudemire.



according to an article on yahoo take it for what its worth

GregOden#1
02-12-2009, 01:13 AM
I dont get you. And as far as I heard, the Portland trade was BS and wouldnt happen because it makes no sense to give up aldridge and bayless for stoudemire. If I were in Portland i wudnt want that to go through at all, its too much of a risk

I know...I said that. But the trade discussed was RLEC+Bayless for Amare, then later RLEC+Bayless+Diogu (from what I understand) for Amare, Aldridge was never seriously discussed. If he was it'd have happened already. These trades arent supposed to fair for Phoenix, they're strapped for cash and need to dump players. NOH are in the same boat, Memphis to a lesser extent, Charlotte too, Detroit, there are tons of teams that are in financial trouble. I'd bet money that RLEC could get Richard Jefferson straight up, but Portland is waiting for something better.

29$JerZ
02-12-2009, 01:15 AM
Suns FO is quickly resembling Isiah Thomas craziness.

Drtino
02-12-2009, 01:53 AM
You're kinda behind bro. The Nets wer kicked outta dis race like 2 days ago. The Nets already told the press that they talked to the Suns unproductivley, meaning Phoenix wasnt interested in anything they had to offer

You're saying the Nets talked to Pheonix... that may be so, but it is not over until the fat lady sings bud... maybe I want to be persistent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIVfbylUU-M&feature=related

gcoll
02-12-2009, 02:08 AM
Suns FO is quickly resembling Isiah Thomas craziness.

They have for a while.

Even before this. We've been trading draft picks for cash...and cutting any and all role players for cash.

Sarver is a ******.

JPHX
02-12-2009, 03:02 AM
I will become heavily involved just as I have been the last five years.”

yeah and your gonna screw it all up...just like you've done the past five years.

Drtino
02-12-2009, 03:34 AM
The Nets are still putting offers on the table... this article is from Monday, so let's see what happens... Nets are still on the run.

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/nets/39299542.html

shortlunatic
02-12-2009, 03:38 AM
I know...I said that. But the trade discussed was RLEC+Bayless for Amare, then later RLEC+Bayless+Diogu (from what I understand) for Amare, Aldridge was never seriously discussed. If he was it'd have happened already. These trades arent supposed to fair for Phoenix, they're strapped for cash and need to dump players. NOH are in the same boat, Memphis to a lesser extent, Charlotte too, Detroit, there are tons of teams that are in financial trouble. I'd bet money that RLEC could get Richard Jefferson straight up, but Portland is waiting for something better.
oh i see...dat woulda been a horrible trade for phoenix i think..bt if i were the blazers i wudnt care much for stoudemire. if u got aldridge you dont really need him.

You're saying the Nets talked to Pheonix... that may be so, but it is not over until the fat lady sings bud... maybe I want to be persistent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIVfbylUU-M&feature=related

yea i read it in article. they talked to the suns for sure, but from what I understood from the nets was that a deal could nt be made. you can read it at the chicago sun times website, the articles name is:Suitors Aplenty for Amare

shortlunatic
02-12-2009, 03:43 AM
[QUOTE=Drtino;8344968]The Nets are still putting offers on the table... this article is from Monday, so let's see what happens... Nets are still on the run.

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/nets/39299542.html[/QUOTEm

mayb, but im almost positive he comes to chi, nt because i thnk our package is so great, bt because kerr really likes TT and values him more than fans do

king4day
02-12-2009, 09:55 AM
The Nets are still putting offers on the table... this article is from Monday, so let's see what happens... Nets are still on the run.

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/nets/39299542.html[/QUOTEm

mayb, but im almost positive he comes to chi, nt because i thnk our package is so great, bt because kerr really likes TT and values him more than fans do

Since that article is from 3 days ago, I doubt anything new has surfaced with NJ. Plus we all know how far a verbal commitment to resign can get you (boozer)

Bigpopp50
02-12-2009, 10:31 AM
For the suns I believe the best scenario is trading with the bulls. The suns need a reliable point guard for the future. Kirk H can fill that roll, they also could use TT to fill the empty Amare roll and the expiring contract of Drew gooden would help as well.

I do like the talent that Portland has to offer, but if i was in Portland FO i wouldnt give up that talent for amare. Amare isn't the the elite stud that he thinks he is. He's just a scorer that doesn't play defense well...

{º¿º}
02-12-2009, 10:44 AM
NEVER EVER have an owner tamper with personnel!!!!

Could it be any worse than what Kerr has done?

DaBUU
02-12-2009, 12:28 PM
For the suns I believe the best scenario is trading with the bulls. The suns need a reliable point guard for the future. Kirk H can fill that roll, they also could use TT to fill the empty Amare roll and the expiring contract of Drew gooden would help as well.

I do like the talent that Portland has to offer, but if i was in Portland FO i wouldnt give up that talent for amare. Amare isn't the the elite stud that he thinks he is. He's just a scorer that doesn't play defense well...

I disagree that Amare isn't an elite player, hes the best offensive PF in the game IMO. Four time All-Star thats only 26 yrs old, that sounds elite to me. I do agree he doesn't play D, but the entire league hardly plays D anymore. This deal has to get done at this point, the Suns have definitly backed themselves into a corner with how public all the talks have been. I'm not ordering my Bulls STAT jersey yet, but crossing my fingers.

MoBASS
02-12-2009, 12:30 PM
Sounds like horrible situation for Suns fans... I'm just glad as a Wolves fan that we got the best possible deal for Garnett, and am pretty thankful as well. For as much as everyone rips on McHale and Taylor (owner), they could have totally butchered the Garnett trade, and that could have set us back even further, like in the 10-20 year range.

Better than Odom and Bynum?

kntresistheheat
02-12-2009, 12:38 PM
It came on the 790 the ticket that the heat and suns talks are back on as of wednesday night, and that the bulls are still in the running? It also says that Barbosa, Hill, and nash are untouchable. I just dont know what the heck the heat are going to give up unless beasley is involved, they said on the radio that maybe a marion, haslem, cook, and future first pick for Amare, Richardson, Barnes?????:confused:

Thoughts????



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Half the NBA is going West for All-Star weekend. The Suns are looking East when it comes to trading Amare Stoudemire.

Talks between the Suns and Portland Trail Blazers about Stoudemire have unraveled, CBSSports.com has learned. Phoenix is now focused on Eastern Conference teams -- and not just Chicago.

The Bulls remain a serious contender due to Drew Gooden's expiring contract and Larry Hughes' expiring deal next season, plus the largest expiring trade exception in the league ($5.2 million). But Miami is the latest team to emerge as a serious landing spot for Stoudemire, a person with direct knowledge of the talks said Wednesday night.

The Heat's involvement is sure to set off speculation about the possibility of Phoenix taking back Shawn Marion, who was traded to Miami for Shaquille O'Neal last February -- ground zero in the demolition of the Suns' 58-win-a-year success story over the past four seasons. But it is not believed that Suns managing partner Robert Sarver wants to go there. And Sarver's heavy hand in the process has become one of the key obstacles to Phoenix securing the best deal, according to two league executives -- one of whom described the situation as "dissension." Teams are getting mixed signals from Phoenix as far as what the Suns are looking to take back for Stoudemire, another executive said -- one version from Sarver and another from president Steve Kerr.

That isn't uncommon in NBA trade talks, especially on a deal as massive as this one. But it's just another impediment in Kerr's way as he tries to leverage an already difficult position. Some team executives have concerns about Stoudemire as a max player, given that anyone who acquires him would have to be prepared to re-sign him if he declines his player option after the 2009-10 season. Stoudemire's defensive deficiencies have been well documented, and he's a difficult player to commit to long-term given that he underwent microfracture knee surgery in 2005.

The deal Portland was discussing with Phoenix involved LaMarcus Aldridge, Jerryd Bayless, and Raef LaFrentz's $12.7 million expiring contract. "That deal is dead," the person familiar with the talks said. One reason could be that Portland is really looking to acquire an elite point guard, according to an NBA team executive. That begs the question of whether Portland G.M. Kevin Pritchard was asking for Steve Nash. But according to another rival executive, the Suns have made it clear that Nash, Grant Hill, and Leandro Barbosa are "untouchable."




http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

Gup
02-12-2009, 12:40 PM
Better than Odom and Bynum?

I;d rather have Jefferson alone, rather than Odom and Bynum.
Then throw in 6 other guys along with Jefferson = a sweet deal

Sports Illustrator
02-12-2009, 12:45 PM
I don't know what will happen with Shaq but as I've said before, Amare is going to be traded to either the Bulls, Raptors or Knicks in that order. The Heat would be a possibility only if they're willing to trade Beasley, but that seems unlikely. I wouldn't expect Amare going to a western conference team.

If a deal doesn't go down today, there will be silence all the way until monday. Expect there to be a lot of trade talks and rumors between the 16th to the 19th.

king4day
02-12-2009, 12:46 PM
I read a possible 3 way deal.

In some fashion, it's this...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3195~3005~2794~3418~1727&teams=21~21~21~29~14&te=&cash=

Other parts need to be moved to make it work, but it sounds like that's the latest variation.

kntresistheheat
02-12-2009, 12:49 PM
This is the latest:





PHILADELPHIA — Grizzlies owner Michael Heisley acknowledged his recent involvement in trade discussions regarding All-Star forward Amare Stoudemire and said he rejected the Phoenix Suns’ proposal.

“We had conversations,” Heisley said Wednesday, confirming a Yahoo Sports report that Phoenix owner Robert Sarver initiated contact with Memphis. “But there is no deal on the table. I think they’ll go somewhere else.”


Mark Duncan / Associated Press

Phoenix Suns forward Amare Stoudemire is on the trading block, and Grizzlies owner Michael Heisley said he’s had talks with the Suns’ ownership but rejected an offer the team made.
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Heisley didn’t discuss specifics about the talks, only saying that he spoke with Sarver twice and the Suns were firm in their requirements for dealing Stoudemire.

Apparently, moving Stoudemire within the Western Conference isn’t a factor, and a player agent with reliable trade information contended that Phoenix’s asking price isn’t cheap.

The Suns are said to have asked the Griz to consummate a deal that included forwards Rudy Gay and Hakim Warrick, and point guard Mike Conley.

Reached by phone while on a scouting mission in Texas, Griz general manager Chris Wallace declined to talk specifically about potential trades.

“All I can tell you is that we don’t have anything imminent on any front at this point,” Wallace said.

Wallace, though, also had discussions with Suns general manager Steve Kerr while the Griz were being courted. Conventional wisdom suggests that Memphis was more interested in using its salary-cap space to provide Phoenix with financial relief.

Reportedly, Chicago, Golden State, Portland and Sacramento are among the teams aggressively pursuing Stoudemire.

While it appears the Grizzlies’ chances of acquiring Stoudemire have reached slim to none, they may still be involved in more than cursory discussions on another front.

Several NBA insiders asserted that Phoenix and Miami would like Memphis to facilitate a deal that would send Stoudemire to South Beach. One scenario has the Griz possibly acquiring Heat rookie forward Michael Beasley in the three-way transaction.


http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/feb/12/notebook-grizzlies-brass-veto-stoudemire-offer/

king4day
02-12-2009, 12:50 PM
I don't know what will happen with Shaq but as I've said before, Amare is going to be traded to either the Bulls, Raptors or Knicks in that order. The Heat would be a possibility only if they're willing to trade Beasley, but that seems unlikely. I wouldn't expect Amare going to a western conference team.

If a deal doesn't go down today, there will be silence all the way until monday. Expect there to be a lot of trade talks and rumors between the 16th to the 19th.

I haven't heard the Knicks or Raps mentioned much.
I read Toronto wanted to pair Amare and Bosh together, but that's a very bad situation for Amare.

king4day
02-12-2009, 12:51 PM
This is the latest:





PHILADELPHIA — Grizzlies owner Michael Heisley acknowledged his recent involvement in trade discussions regarding All-Star forward Amare Stoudemire and said he rejected the Phoenix Suns’ proposal.

“We had conversations,” Heisley said Wednesday, confirming a Yahoo Sports report that Phoenix owner Robert Sarver initiated contact with Memphis. “But there is no deal on the table. I think they’ll go somewhere else.”


Mark Duncan / Associated Press

Phoenix Suns forward Amare Stoudemire is on the trading block, and Grizzlies owner Michael Heisley said he’s had talks with the Suns’ ownership but rejected an offer the team made.
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Heisley didn’t discuss specifics about the talks, only saying that he spoke with Sarver twice and the Suns were firm in their requirements for dealing Stoudemire.

Apparently, moving Stoudemire within the Western Conference isn’t a factor, and a player agent with reliable trade information contended that Phoenix’s asking price isn’t cheap.

The Suns are said to have asked the Griz to consummate a deal that included forwards Rudy Gay and Hakim Warrick, and point guard Mike Conley.

Reached by phone while on a scouting mission in Texas, Griz general manager Chris Wallace declined to talk specifically about potential trades.

“All I can tell you is that we don’t have anything imminent on any front at this point,” Wallace said.

Wallace, though, also had discussions with Suns general manager Steve Kerr while the Griz were being courted. Conventional wisdom suggests that Memphis was more interested in using its salary-cap space to provide Phoenix with financial relief.

Reportedly, Chicago, Golden State, Portland and Sacramento are among the teams aggressively pursuing Stoudemire.

While it appears the Grizzlies’ chances of acquiring Stoudemire have reached slim to none, they may still be involved in more than cursory discussions on another front.

Several NBA insiders asserted that Phoenix and Miami would like Memphis to facilitate a deal that would send Stoudemire to South Beach. One scenario has the Griz possibly acquiring Heat rookie forward Michael Beasley in the three-way transaction.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/feb/12/notebook-grizzlies-brass-veto-stoudemire-offer/

That's part of where i heard about it.

kntresistheheat
02-12-2009, 12:55 PM
I think its like this

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1765~1018~1727~3195~3005~3418~ 510&teams=14~14~14~21~21~29~21&te=&cash=













I read a possible 3 way deal.

In some fashion, it's this...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3195~3005~2794~3418~1727&teams=21~21~21~29~14&te=&cash=

Other parts need to be moved to make it work, but it sounds like that's the latest variation.

Sports Illustrator
02-12-2009, 01:02 PM
I haven't heard the Knicks or Raps mentioned much.
I read Toronto wanted to pair Amare and Bosh together, but that's a very bad situation for Amare.

There have been no recent reports about the Raptors and Knicks, but expect to see more reports (not only for the Knicks and Raptors) until Amare finally gets traded.

I still believe if the Bulls really wanted Amare, they can make up a superb package. I think the Bulls are the team that can give the Suns exactly what they want, and I do not mean Luol Deng either. If the Suns want talent now for Amare, then they should talk to the Raptors about Chris Bosh.

kntresistheheat
02-12-2009, 01:03 PM
What do you suns fans think about this???? I am sure there is a first rounder going to the suns or the grizz, but you guys would have a great SF in rudy gay and possilbly a future PG in conley and the expiring contract in marion. The heat will be set and we wont have to wait to 2010 for a star and if Amare is still crying well his contract would be up by then and we will money again:D to get other players in the 2010 sweepstakes

Heat line up:

Chalmers
Wade
Richardson/Barnes?
Amare/Haslem
Magloire/Amare?







That's part of where i heard about it.

JordansBulls
02-12-2009, 01:28 PM
I don't know what will happen with Shaq but as I've said before, Amare is going to be traded to either the Bulls, Raptors or Knicks in that order. The Heat would be a possibility only if they're willing to trade Beasley, but that seems unlikely. I wouldn't expect Amare going to a western conference team.

If a deal doesn't go down today, there will be silence all the way until monday. Expect there to be a lot of trade talks and rumors between the 16th to the 19th.

Bulls please. :pray:

jrodmesche
02-12-2009, 01:32 PM
Bulls please. :pray:

new news states heat is back in it without giving up beasley

Wade_County
02-12-2009, 01:40 PM
new news states heat is back in it without giving up beasley

:clap:

cantstopthee
02-12-2009, 01:48 PM
i just went to the suns pistons game,i would want him lol but nash is a tank,21 assists come on?

Bulls4Lyfe
02-12-2009, 02:00 PM
It's going to be sad when the Suns deal Amare, a 26 yo superstar, for .50 cents on the dollar because of their owner's financial woes. Phoenix is desperate, everyone knows it, so why pay full value for Amare? If the Marion/Beasley rumor is legit, I would take and it and run if I'm the Suns.

If Riley somehow manages to pry Amare from the Suns without giving up Beasley or Cook (something involving Haslem and Marion), that would set up the Heat big time for the future:

Chalmers (22 years old)
Wade (26)
Cook (21)
Beasley (20)
Amare (26)

kntresistheheat
02-12-2009, 02:02 PM
It's going to be sad when the Suns deal Amare, a 26 yo superstar, for .50 cents on the dollar because of their owner's financial woes. Phoenix is desperate, everyone knows it, so why pay full value for Amare? If the Marion/Beasley rumor is legit, I would take and it and run if I'm the Suns.

If Riley somehow manages to pry Amare from the Suns without giving up Beasley or Cook (something involving Haslem and Marion), that would set up the Heat big time for the future:

Chalmers (22 years old)
Wade (26)
Cook (21)
Beasley (20)
Amare (26) :drool:

-Juice-
02-12-2009, 02:54 PM
Why would the Suns trade Amare Stoudemire for Udonis Haslem?

king4day
02-12-2009, 02:55 PM
Why would the Suns trade Amare Stoudemire for Udonis Haslem?

With Sarver running the show, it wouldn't surprise me if he just sold him to a team with cap room.

-Juice-
02-12-2009, 03:00 PM
With Sarver running the show, it wouldn't surprise me if he just sold him to a team with cap room.

No he wouldn't.

JordansBulls
02-12-2009, 03:08 PM
It's going to be sad when the Suns deal Amare, a 26 yo superstar, for .50 cents on the dollar because of their owner's financial woes. Phoenix is desperate, everyone knows it, so why pay full value for Amare? If the Marion/Beasley rumor is legit, I would take and it and run if I'm the Suns.

If Riley somehow manages to pry Amare from the Suns without giving up Beasley or Cook (something involving Haslem and Marion), that would set up the Heat big time for the future:

Chalmers (22 years old)
Wade (26)
Cook (21)
Beasley (20)
Amare (26)

Amare coming to Chi-town. Paxson better give them the deal they want.

jrodmesche
02-12-2009, 03:32 PM
Amare coming to Chi-town. Paxson better give them the deal they want.

hes coming to south beach!!!!!

shortlunatic
02-12-2009, 04:11 PM
I think its just a way to way to crank up the asking price for amare from other teams. They really dont want Marion back, and sources already said that Kerr valued Thomas more than Beasley. Honestly I think The Suns are just waiting on the Bulls to pull the trigger, n are probably tryin to see if they can possibly get more from him elsewhere. Either way, a trade wont be made til at least past all-star weekend

Bulls4Lyfe
02-12-2009, 04:21 PM
Amare coming to Chi-town. Paxson better give them the deal they want.

winner of tonight's heat-bulls game gets amare? seems fair to me haha. now that would make for a very fun ball game

Master Mind
02-12-2009, 04:37 PM
I think its just a way to way to crank up the asking price for amare from other teams. They really dont want Marion back, and sources already said that Kerr valued Thomas more than Beasley. Honestly I think The Suns are just waiting on the Bulls to pull the trigger, n are probably tryin to see if they can possibly get more from him elsewhere. Either way, a trade wont be made til at least past all-star weekend

So you actually believe Kerr or anyone value Tyrus Thomas more than Michael Beasley :eyebrow:

ragee
02-12-2009, 05:01 PM
Check this ******** trade out:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1727~454~2015~111~3195~2171~34 18~510&teams=14~21~21~22~22~22~22~29&te=&cash=

Yeah normally this would have no chance in hell of happening. But PHO gets an expiring that gives them cash now (roughly 5 mill from insurance) and later (when he expires) and Outlaw has a TO if they dont want to resign him. Miami gets a good deal and has a chance to make a playoff push, Memphis gets a great deal for their crappy contracts and Mike Conley....

...and Portland....hahahahahaha just the thought of that team makes me wet

This can actually happen if the suns is really desperate for money... Every team benefits except them...

ragee
02-12-2009, 05:05 PM
winner of tonight's heat-bulls game gets amare? seems fair to me haha. now that would make for a very fun ball game

Hahaha... That would be nice... I am sure people will watch that game like it's the NBA finals!!!

Bulls4Lyfe
02-12-2009, 05:06 PM
This can actually happen if the suns is really desperate for money... Every team benefits except them...

why would PHX do it if they could possibly get Marion and Beasley? Marion/Beasley >>>>> Outlaw/Lafrentz.

ragee
02-12-2009, 05:07 PM
So you actually believe Kerr or anyone value Tyrus Thomas more than Michael Beasley :eyebrow:

LOL... I actually think Beasley is not going to be as good as people think he is but saying that TT has more value than him is very insulting...

ragee
02-12-2009, 05:08 PM
why would PHX do it if they could possibly get Marion and Beasley? Marion/Beasley >>>>> Outlaw/Lafrentz.

Because if they are going to do it with just the Heat, they have to add players... It won't match...

LayZbone
02-12-2009, 05:09 PM
If the Heat do end up trading both Marion and Beasley for Amare, whether its a 2 or 3 team deal, I'd love for us to also get a temporary fix at SF to fill the void. Someone like Barnes, cause this lineup is waaaay too small and it leaves our bench with nothing:

Amare (6'10" pf)
Haslem (6'8" pf)
Cook (6'5" sg)
Wade (6'4" sg)
Chalmers (6'1" pg)


otherwise i'd rather just trade Marion/Banks for J.O. and possibly Moon. Keep Beasley.

shortlunatic
02-12-2009, 05:25 PM
So you actually believe Kerr or anyone value Tyrus Thomas more than Michael Beasley :eyebrow:

I said Kerr and only Kerr. the sources close to hims says he finds more interest in Tryus Thomas than he does with Beasely.

http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/1390

kntresistheheat
02-12-2009, 05:27 PM
Well, its a good thing kerr is no longer making the decisions on this trade:D





I said Kerr and only Kerr. He said it already, and all the sources close to hims says he finds more interest in Tryus Thomas than he does with Beasely.

shortlunatic
02-12-2009, 05:29 PM
Well, its a good thing kerr is no longer making the decisions on this trade:D


wat do you mean?? Hes still the GM, just cause the owner wants to get in doesnt mean Kerr isnt gonna make the decision

tadmanny
02-12-2009, 05:37 PM
Well when the owner is the one making calls and talking players, its seems like Kerr's opinion is equivalent to a deuce being flushed down the toilet.

shortlunatic
02-12-2009, 05:42 PM
Well when the owner is the one making calls and talking players, its seems like Kerr's opinion is equivalent to a deuce being flushed down the toilet.

True. All i gotta say is that organization is gonna be prettyu F'd up when this is all over

Punkindrublic03
02-12-2009, 05:45 PM
If the Heat do end up trading both Marion and Beasley for Amare, whether its a 2 or 3 team deal, I'd love for us to also get a temporary fix at SF to fill the void. Someone like Barnes, cause this lineup is waaaay too small and it leaves our bench with nothing:

Amare (6'10" pf)
Haslem (6'8" pf)
Cook (6'5" sg)
Wade (6'4" sg)
Chalmers (6'1" pg)


otherwise i'd rather just trade Marion/Banks for J.O. and possibly Moon. Keep Beasley.


Amare is not 6'10'' he is closer to 6'7'' or 6'8''. they give him a GENEROUS listing at 6'10''. so ya you would need a big man to bang down low for sure

chicagocubsfan
02-12-2009, 05:56 PM
LOL... I actually think Beasley is not going to be as good as people think he is but saying that TT has more value than him is very insulting...tt>>>>>>>> beasely

kntresistheheat
02-12-2009, 05:58 PM
:rolleyes: thats 3 inch difference if thats the case and he played center than he is better anyone I know at 6'7. Give a little bit more credit to the NBA they wont be that off?




Amare is not 6'10'' he is closer to 6'7'' or 6'8''. they give him a GENEROUS listing at 6'10''. so ya you would need a big man to bang down low for sure

Lakers09
02-12-2009, 06:12 PM
i hate the suns/love to see them squirm like this

nash never deserved mvp

sargon21
02-12-2009, 06:17 PM
I think its like this

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1765~1018~1727~3195~3005~3418~ 510&teams=14~14~14~21~21~29~21&te=&cash=

why would memphis give up rudy gay hes great

DABEARS23
02-12-2009, 08:15 PM
Comeon then Sarver lets get him to Chicago

LakeShowRaider
02-12-2009, 08:22 PM
THis is what the Sus get!!!

kntresistheheat
02-12-2009, 08:34 PM
Because he was rumored on the trade:p




why would memphis give up rudy gay hes great

chicagocubsfan
02-12-2009, 08:42 PM
Can't wait till the bulls con sarver out of stoudemire :)

Master Mind
02-12-2009, 08:42 PM
tt>>>>>>>> beasely

:laugh2:

JordansBulls
02-12-2009, 08:49 PM
tt>>>>>>>> beasely

:rolleyes:

gcoll
02-12-2009, 09:54 PM
i hate the suns/love to see them squirm like this

nash never deserved mvp

Who did? Kobe every year?

Why can't Laker fans ever give Nash any credit?