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koldjerky
02-10-2009, 12:49 AM
I'm not making a poll because I don't really know who to even put but I was wondering who may be the best 1 and 2 hole hitting combo in the game?

Right now Granderson/Polanco in DET is mine.

brandonwarne52
02-10-2009, 05:09 AM
Denard Span and Joe Mauer, if they go that way.

Grecs422
02-10-2009, 12:22 PM
Cameron Maybin is gonna be a great table setter

EAGLES3658
02-10-2009, 08:42 PM
Damon/Jeter

bcransom
02-10-2009, 09:22 PM
Rollins, Victorino.

mdlr52192
02-10-2009, 11:08 PM
I think that this year, it might be Ellsbury/Pedroia.

ShinobiNYC
02-11-2009, 04:21 AM
Still Damon/Jeter until proven otherwise.

If Beltran hits #2 with the Mets then it's easily the Mets.

tymonic1
02-11-2009, 05:51 AM
roberts and markakis were pretty nice last year...though nick will be in 3 hole this year

Kirel
02-11-2009, 11:16 AM
Still Damon/Jeter until proven otherwise.

If Beltran hits #2 with the Mets then it's easily the Mets.
Because....

You say so?

ShinobiNYC
02-11-2009, 11:29 AM
Because....

You say so?

Cause numbers say so for their last 3 seasons, Markakis hits 3rd btw tymonic.

Again it can change especially if certain players change where they hit.

Again it's just my opinion, I guess you have to say IMO every time you type nowadays.

Kirel
02-11-2009, 12:26 PM
Cause numbers say so for their last 3 seasons, Markakis hits 3rd btw tymonic.

Again it can change especially if certain players change where they hit.

Again it's just my opinion, I guess you have to say IMO every time you type nowadays.
No, it's simply ridiculous to say "It's X until proven otherwise"
....all while not providing any proof of your own. It's up to you to prove that they are in this case, not to others to prove they aren't.

If you don't want to be held to that standard, do require proof against your opinion.

ShinobiNYC
02-11-2009, 12:54 PM
No, it's simply ridiculous to say "It's X until proven otherwise"
....all while not providing any proof of your own. It's up to you to prove that they are in this case, not to others to prove they aren't.

If you don't want to be held to that standard, do require proof against your opinion.

All I can do is compare using the 2008 numbers but the thing is stats/players' positions change year in and year out so there is no definitive answer.

That's why I have those 2 in Damon/Jeter cause they hit in those spots year in and year out while others either moved from a table setter position or weren't consistent enough.

Jeter has been hitting 2nd for at least 3 years, Damon has been a leadoff guy since almost forever. The other "table setters" that comes to my mind who did what Damon/Jeter are doing are Reyes and Castillo(Reyes has been leadoff all his life and Castillo has been hitting #2 for a while now). BUt Castillo blows now(unless he gets back to his .360+ OBP).

Who is to say the Red Sox will have Ellsbury leadoff and/or Pedroia #2?

Who will hit 2nd for the Phillies? Victorino for sure? Even with that him and Rollins are pretty much a 105 OPS+ combo.

Another good combo would be : Crawford/Upton but again Carl had a mediocre season in 2008.

So it's all and all estimations for who are the best table setters in 2009 as far as for 2008 and prior my choice remains Damon/Jeter, I would make a better judgment in the middle of the season if it's for 2009.

Btw I'm talking offensively of course.

brandonwarne52
02-11-2009, 01:55 PM
Just for a numerical perspective-

Denard Span:
.294/.387/.432

Joe Mauer:
.328/.413/.451

RoyalFan310
02-11-2009, 02:25 PM
A 2009 sleeper: KC Royals #1 CoCo Crisp, #2 Angel Cabrera.

Oh wait, the Royals haven't signed Cabrera. If they don't, they're idiots!

Kirel
02-11-2009, 03:05 PM
All I can do is compare using the 2008 numbers but the thing is stats/players' positions change year in and year out so there is no definitive answer.

That's why I have those 2 in Damon/Jeter cause they hit in those spots year in and year out while others either moved from a table setter position or weren't consistent enough.

Jeter has been hitting 2nd for at least 3 years, Damon has been a leadoff guy since almost forever. The other "table setters" that comes to my mind who did what Damon/Jeter are doing are Reyes and Castillo(Reyes has been leadoff all his life and Castillo has been hitting #2 for a while now). BUt Castillo blows now(unless he gets back to his .360+ OBP).

Who is to say the Red Sox will have Ellsbury leadoff and/or Pedroia #2?

Who will hit 2nd for the Phillies? Victorino for sure? Even with that him and Rollins are pretty much a 105 OPS+ combo.

Another good combo would be : Crawford/Upton but again Carl had a mediocre season in 2008.

So it's all and all estimations for who are the best table setters in 2009 as far as for 2008 and prior my choice remains Damon/Jeter, I would make a better judgment in the middle of the season if it's for 2009.

Btw I'm talking offensively of course.
See, this is what I expect out of someone who says "until proven otherwise."

I didn't disagree with your answer, just your way of putting it.

brandonwarne52
02-11-2009, 04:52 PM
A 2009 sleeper: KC Royals #1 CoCo Crisp, #2 Angel Cabrera.

Oh wait, the Royals haven't signed Cabrera. If they don't, they're idiots!

Who the fluck is Angel Cabrera?

mdlr52192
02-11-2009, 05:24 PM
A 2009 sleeper: KC Royals #1 CoCo Crisp, #2 Angel Cabrera.

Oh wait, the Royals haven't signed Cabrera. If they don't, they're idiots!

U mean ASDRUBAL Cabrera

ShinobiNYC
02-11-2009, 10:06 PM
Just for a numerical perspective-

Denard Span:
.294/.387/.432

Joe Mauer:
.328/.413/.451

Mauer hits 3rd though.

MJ-BULLS
02-11-2009, 10:12 PM
i think that rollins and victorino is the best right now

brandonwarne52
02-11-2009, 10:13 PM
Mauer hits 3rd though.

Mauer has hit 2nd at times and could again. Either way, that's why I said "if they go that way."

Sportfan
02-18-2009, 03:02 PM
rollins and victorino