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MGB
02-07-2009, 04:32 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ak_GIZg7eGf2rYcCbWEubki8vLYF?slug=ap-lakers-bobcatstrade&prov=ap&type=lgns


Bobcats send Morrison to Lakers for Radmanovic
By MIKE CRANSTON, AP Sports Writer
13 minutes ago

Buzz up!0 votes PrintCHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP)—The Charlotte Bobcats sent struggling forward Adam Morrison and reserve Shannon Brown to the Los Angeles Lakers on Saturday for forward Vladimir Radmanovic.

The move is the third trade the Bobcats have made this season in a roster shakeup under first-year coach Larry Brown.

Morrison was the third overall pick of the 2006 draft and managing partner Michael Jordan’s first major move since buying into the Bobcats. But Morrison had failed to crack the starting lineup and his minutes had declined under Brown.

Morrison will give the Lakers an outside shooting threat, while the 6-foot-10 Radmanovic gives the Bobcats more depth up front.

lakersrock
02-07-2009, 04:33 PM
Sweet. I actually like this a lot. Outside Ariza, we can't play D at SF, so why not add another scorer for Kobe to throw the ball to?

DerekRE_3
02-07-2009, 04:33 PM
I like this for Cats. Vlad can actually hit shots in real games, Morrison cannot.

Fool
02-07-2009, 04:33 PM
only reason for this that I see is that the Lakers are going to be making a bigger move.

MGB
02-07-2009, 04:35 PM
kind of a blah move... but I guess maybe the change of scenery could help both guys a bit. doesn't Vlad kinda have a bad contract?

amaretomiami
02-07-2009, 04:35 PM
youve got to feel for someone like vlad, to go from the lakers to the bobcats? tough. im sure hell just be counting his cash though

Skin&Bones
02-07-2009, 04:35 PM
Wow! I just don't know what to say.

jimbobjarree
02-07-2009, 04:36 PM
yeah from what derek has told me morrison sucks balls, he wont play for the lakers

GiantYankKnicks
02-07-2009, 04:37 PM
lol What a huge bust he is but maybe LA can make him into a decent Role Player

Skin&Bones
02-07-2009, 04:37 PM
yeah from what derek has told me morrison sucks balls, he wont play for the lakers

He can probably work on jackson's system.

lakersrock
02-07-2009, 04:40 PM
kind of a blah move... but I guess maybe the change of scenery could help both guys a bit. doesn't Vlad kinda have a bad contract?

Horrible. So that's one plus. The second plus is Morrison fits the Triangle. The third plus is, he's young and has shown flashes. If he pans out, we stole him. If he doesn't, we gave up a terrible contract to get him. This happens to be a very low risk/very high reward type deal.

fairandbalanced
02-07-2009, 04:42 PM
Low risk.........good gamble on Lakers side

still1ballin
02-07-2009, 04:43 PM
I don't like it.

weebs
02-07-2009, 04:45 PM
adam morrison is among the laziest players in the league, he doesn't try for rebounds, and he doesn't defend. it's a bad move for anybody that plays him.

bostncelts34
02-07-2009, 04:51 PM
i dont understand why the lakers did this.

Bad defender, bad rebounder. All he can do is shoot, and hes very inconsistent at that. Why trade Vlad, a guy who has playoff expierence and is 6'10 shooter, for morrison. dont understand it

marques724
02-07-2009, 04:53 PM
I am wondering if this move was made to set up a bigger trade. Morrison's contract does end a year earlier than Vlad's

chigoldcoast27
02-07-2009, 04:53 PM
Best thread title.

Faneik
02-07-2009, 04:54 PM
i dont understand why the lakers did this.

Bad defender, bad rebounder. All he can do is shoot, and hes very inconsistent at that. Why trade Vlad, a guy who has playoff expierence and is 6'10 shooter, for morrison. dont understand it

Doing the math, the Lakers saved around 6/7M in contracts.

And now they're starting Walton at SF and Ariza is his reserve. Radmanovid was the 3rd stringer. Now they have a cheaper 3rd SF in Morrison.

showtym24
02-07-2009, 04:57 PM
i dont understand why the lakers did this.

Bad defender, bad rebounder. All he can do is shoot, and hes very inconsistent at that. Why trade Vlad, a guy who has playoff expierence and is 6'10 shooter, for morrison. dont understand it

So is vlad, but he also has a horrible contract. I think morrison could catch on with us. We'll see though.

still1ballin
02-07-2009, 04:58 PM
Morrison has to get groomed, I cannt stand seeing his face every game now on looking like a sasquatch.

Hellcrooner
02-07-2009, 05:02 PM
cant believe we came out with this ROBBERY.

we unload one of our worst contracts, not to tell, LONGer contracts.

we get a former top 5 pick who wasnt usefull on his teams system but MAY MEET his ceilling in the triangle, not to tell he will resing for CHEAP NOW.



Everybody BOW DOWN to MR KUTCHAP.

showtym24
02-07-2009, 05:03 PM
kupcheck is god.

Hawkeye15
02-07-2009, 05:04 PM
I smell another move for the Lakers. This is a whatever trade, doesn't help either team. Maybe a change of scenary is what they both needed.

pete_one
02-07-2009, 05:04 PM
Mitch did this so he can being Jim Morrison back to Los Angeles

still1ballin
02-07-2009, 05:06 PM
I smell another move for the Lakers. This is a whatever trade, doesn't help either team. Maybe a change of scenary is what they both needed.

Only helps Lakers financially.

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-07-2009, 05:08 PM
Vlad did nothing for the Lakers so they are not losing anything. Just gaining money and a less restricting contract. Plus, I heard Vlad was really pissed about not playing anymore. He was probably a bad locker room presence because of it. Morrison wont put us over the top, but he wont drag us down

RileyJ
02-07-2009, 05:09 PM
They made a trade and got back the exact same player. WTF

Hawkeye15
02-07-2009, 05:10 PM
Only helps Lakers financially.

at what point in Lakers history have they ever cared about managing a payroll? They are almost always one of the higher payrolls out there. I think this may be a move that will lead to another move.

JermanJaysFan
02-07-2009, 05:10 PM
Mitch did this so he can being Jim Morrison back to Los Angeles


Morrison has to get groomed, I cannt stand seeing his face every game now on looking like a sasquatch.

He looks normall-er now, boys:

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/e6/fullj.ea59b076fe5545ee15dd6ff3bfffe2da/ea59b076fe5545ee15dd6ff3bfffe2da-getty-83005127mm015_bobcat_jazz.jpg

Hawkeye15
02-07-2009, 05:11 PM
Vlad did nothing for the Lakers so they are not losing anything. Just gaining money and a less restricting contract. Plus, I heard Vlad was really pissed about not playing anymore. He was probably a bad locker room presence because of it. Morrison wont put us over the top, but he wont drag us down

finally, someone makes some sense. This wasn't a basketball decision

still1ballin
02-07-2009, 05:11 PM
at what point in Lakers history have they ever cared about managing a payroll? They are almost always one of the higher payrolls out there. I think this may be a move that will lead to another move.

Hey who knows? Maybe they are trying to get into the sweepstakes for 2010,
or like you said, another move maybe coming soon. I Hope!

acohn1230
02-07-2009, 05:12 PM
i really think the lakers will come out on the better end of this deal.

did anyone read that article about morrison and reddick in si a while back? it basically said morrison had a decent season, was out his second season because of an unlucky injury, and got pushed into larry brown's system his third year (Which doesnt match his style at all)

so, he was placed on the bench, where its hard to develop as a star when you only get limited minutes.

morrison was never really allowed to bloom under browns system, hopefully he will under jacksons

Sean McG
02-07-2009, 05:12 PM
I was a huge Morrison fan going out of Gonzaga, never thought he'd pan out to be this big of a bust. Didn't he get like 30 in his first game? Hope he can do well in LA.

acohn1230
02-07-2009, 05:13 PM
^^had a decent rookie season***

_Sn1P3r_
02-07-2009, 05:14 PM
Not really a big trade, but still not bad. They replace Vlad with Morrison and get another wing in Brown. I hope Adam plays well in LA.. big expectations for him.

teal9550
02-07-2009, 05:14 PM
they got the same player only younger and cheaper and Adam may have got tired of losing so thats why his effort wasnt good. remember Ariza wasnt a hot comdity when we got him and look at him now.:clap:

Hellcrooner
02-07-2009, 05:14 PM
hope he is able now to take Odumb and WTFackton to suns for the Diesel and we are done, give us the ring already.

Hawkeye15
02-07-2009, 05:14 PM
Morrison scored some points his rookie season, but was absolutely terrible in every other category. But, the Lakers don't need him to do anything but hit open jumpers, and at least attempt to play defense when he is in.

Trouble87
02-07-2009, 05:15 PM
if morrison gets a championship ill be PISSED....

JJ81
02-07-2009, 05:17 PM
i dont understand why the lakers did this.

Bad defender, bad rebounder. All he can do is shoot, and hes very inconsistent at that. Why trade Vlad, a guy who has playoff expierence and is 6'10 shooter, for morrison. dont understand it

Obviously to free themselves from Radman's contract.

But I agree, Morrison is not a good player in my opinion.

2006–07 Charlotte 78 23 29.8 .376 .337 .710 2.9 2.1 .4 .1 11.8

:(

WadeCounty
02-07-2009, 05:19 PM
i think its a good trade for the bobcats

NYstateofMinD
02-07-2009, 05:19 PM
I don't like this tradke..it doesn't do much..Vlad could play the 3 or 4 and was more versatile and he has more experience.

JJ81
02-07-2009, 05:19 PM
Lakers should do Morrison, Mihm and something else for Brad Miller

lakerboy
02-07-2009, 05:23 PM
Morrison has to get groomed, I cannt stand seeing his face every game now on looking like a sasquatch.

BEST POST SO FAR.

I'm sure Sasha can teach him a thing or two.

And btw, I like this thread for the Lakers.

Radmanovic sucks balls. He doesn't D, and is a huge bonehead. For all of you who doesn't watch much LA games, Vlade barely plays already. He is a third stringer behind Walton and Ariza. Moreover, he's got a really really bad contract. Ariza must be smiling right now,.. this is a move to save $$ and sign him next summer.

Kakaroach
02-07-2009, 05:23 PM
Crazy lol but exciting trade. Not much actually happens, but maybe Adam will stop being the enormous bust that he is. He was so passionate at Gonzaga, maybe he'll bring that into the Lakers.

lakerboy
02-07-2009, 05:24 PM
Lakers should do Morrison, Mihm and something else for Brad Miller

WHOA:p

Hellcrooner
02-07-2009, 05:26 PM
it also reminds me of the Lakers " Are you crazy, he is washed up, totally!!!!" trade for Mcyahel Thompson back in the showtime era. :)

RileyJ
02-07-2009, 05:27 PM
if morrison gets a championship ill be PISSED....

He won't. Trust me he won't.

lakers4sho
02-07-2009, 05:28 PM
I like this for Cats. Vlad can actually hit shots in real games, Morrison cannot.

To be honest with you [ but I don't want to break your heart or anything ], Radmanovic sucks donkey balls. He'll probably light up in a random game, but it occurs in 1 out of probably 15 games.

RileyJ
02-07-2009, 05:29 PM
Lakers should do Morrison, Mihm and something else for Brad Miller

Isn't there a rule that says you can't trade a player that you just aquired in a trade for 90 days or something like that?

Torque
02-07-2009, 05:31 PM
To be honest with you [ but I don't want to break your heart or anything ], Radmanovic sucks donkey balls. He'll probably light up in a random game, but it occurs in 1 out of probably 15 games.

Yeah Vlad Rad is very inconsistent. I like it for us, we got rid of his contract :cool:

Skin&Bones
02-07-2009, 05:31 PM
To be honest with you [ but I don't want to break your heart or anything ], Radmanovic sucks donkey balls. He'll probably light up in a random game, but it occurs in 1 out of probably 15 games.

True, he's a very streaky player but when his lights are off...It is OFF. At all sets he is OOOOOFFFFFF!

still1ballin
02-07-2009, 05:36 PM
To be honest with you [ but I don't want to break your heart or anything ], Radmanovic sucks donkey balls. He'll probably light up in a random game, but it occurs in 1 out of probably 15 games.

Aww man you got rid of the great space cadet avatar. Now you have some ugly dude!

marques724
02-07-2009, 05:37 PM
Isn't there a rule that says you can't trade a player that you just aquired in a trade for 90 days or something like that?


Morrison can be traded again but only in a deal that is solo

lakerboy
02-07-2009, 05:37 PM
I just wish the Bobcats had given us the 3rd over all draft pick in the 2006 draft.

We could be talking Brandon Roy or Rudy Gay right now.

lakers4sho
02-07-2009, 05:38 PM
And he plays no defense whatsoever :shrug:

A guy half his size can easily dunk over him.

THE MTL
02-07-2009, 05:39 PM
I dont understand why the Lakers did this. Morrison sucks and check again about his outside shooting. He's a 33% from beyond the arc.

blackjack_119
02-07-2009, 05:41 PM
With this trade, the Lakers will be able to beat the Celtics. The one piece the Lakers were missing was someone who could play like crap coming off of the bench and cry when things aren't going right. Congratulations Lakers... you just found your very own Cry Baby Davis.

Seriously, for anyone who still thinks of Morrison as a "top 3 draft talent"... prepare to be disappointed. The only way that this improves the Lakers SF platoon is that it allows them to give Vlad-Rad's money to Ariza. Morrison should never see playing time. Walton and Ariza are both far better players.

G-Funk
02-07-2009, 05:42 PM
They made a trade and got back the exact same player. WTF

There is more to it. Lakers got rid of a horrible contract. this also gives Luke/Ariza more playing time.

G-Funk
02-07-2009, 05:44 PM
He won't. Trust me he won't.

I like his chances

phlp_bj
02-07-2009, 05:46 PM
maybe lakerss trading for shaq?????????? omgsh

JAZZNC
02-07-2009, 05:47 PM
The Lakers get rid of a terrible contract and get a guy who may turn out to be alright. I think he had a lot of pressure on him in Charlotte. He shouldn't have been drafted that high, once again it was the Bobcats trying to capitalize on a college guy who was popular to sell tickets instead of trying to win games...they have drafted sooooo poorly it's laughable.

In LA all he'll have to do is score on occasion so he'll be fine. That is if the Lakers don't get rid of him fairly soon.

soundjunkies2
02-07-2009, 05:47 PM
I dont understand why the Lakers did this. Morrison sucks and check again about his outside shooting. He's a 33% from beyond the arc.

They got rid of a bad contract of someone who never played.More money for Ariza in the offseason.

G-Funk
02-07-2009, 05:49 PM
Players tend to do better when they are in good teams specially role players.

lakers4sho
02-07-2009, 05:50 PM
Players tend to do better when they are in good teams specially role players.

Apparently that wasn't the case for Radmanovic ;)

rhymeratic
02-07-2009, 05:50 PM
I like this trade a lot. GREAT Gamble. Radman was an expendable piece for the Lakers. IF Morrison lives up to his top 3 pick billing, Lakers will be amazing for years to come. It's somewhat unlikely that he does but better to have a young player to possibly develop at 3rd string than Radman who had a sizable contract. Great move for both teams. I like what Bobcats are doing as well.

Lakersfan2483
02-07-2009, 05:52 PM
Vlad did nothing for the Lakers so they are not losing anything. Just gaining money and a less restricting contract. Plus, I heard Vlad was really pissed about not playing anymore. He was probably a bad locker room presence because of it. Morrison wont put us over the top, but he wont drag us down

Agreed

DerekRE_3
02-07-2009, 05:57 PM
Shannon Brown is actually the best piece the Lakers got in this deal. He can play defense, he's athletic, and he can hit open shots.

Adam Morrison on the other hand, was being outplayed by Cartier Marin, a D-Leaguer on a 10 day contract. Larry Brown himself said that he would rather start Cartier Martin, instead of Adam Morrison.

Morrison can't shoot, can't defend, can't rebound...he can't do anything.

clehmun
02-07-2009, 05:58 PM
don't really see how this is a bad trade for the lakers.
both players are not good enough to crack the laker's rotation this year.
both players play a similar game.
both can't play defense, and are very streaky shooters.

morrison is younger, cheaper, less of an ego, more upside, and gives more flexibility in the future. that works great for the lakers.

vlad has more experience, can play PF, currently a better player than morrison. that suits the bobcats.

hotpotato1092
02-07-2009, 05:59 PM
Maybe going to LA helps morrison realize at least some of the potential the bobcats (and everyone else) saw in him.

RileyJ
02-07-2009, 05:59 PM
Morrison can be traded again but only in a deal that doesn't include Brown.

Who is Brown? Larry Brown? I think your wrong. Players that are traded can't be traded again for 60 or 90 days or something like that.

still1ballin
02-07-2009, 05:59 PM
Shannon Brown is actually the best piece the Lakers got in this deal. He can play defense, he's athletic, and he can hit open shots.

Adam Morrison on the other hand, was being outplayed by Cartier Marin, a D-Leaguer on a 10 day contract. Larry Brown himself said that he would rather start Cartier Martin, instead of Adam Morrison.

Morrison can't shoot, can't defend, can't rebound...he can't do anything.

Watch him kick *** on the lakers! Lmao that would be funny.

Master Mind
02-07-2009, 05:59 PM
I smell another move for the Lakers. This is a whatever trade, doesn't help either team. Maybe a change of scenary is what they both needed.

Only other player they can trade is Lamar Odom....

BTownTeamsRKing
02-07-2009, 05:59 PM
wat the heck are u ppl and the cats smoking??? this is a great deal for LA. wow what a ripoff. is morrison that bad?!?!

i thought he was the next Larry Bird, what happen to that?

morrison is a top pick and they already dumped him just like that for vlad? wow what a dumb deal by charlotte. i dont get it

leftie5
02-07-2009, 06:01 PM
I still think Am-Mo can be productive, but it will be interesting to see if he can get in Coach Jackson's rotation. He definitely needed a change of scenery and hopefully going back to the west coast will help him out mentally. Also, Shannon Brown brings some athleticism and defense as well.

still1ballin
02-07-2009, 06:01 PM
Where ripping other teams off happens

lakers4sho
02-07-2009, 06:01 PM
wat the heck are u ppl and the cats smoking??? this is a great deal for LA. wow what a ripoff. is morrison that bad?!?!

i thought he was the next Larry Bird, what happen to that?

morrison is a top pick and they already dumped him just like that for vlad? wow what a dumb deal by charlotte. i dont get it

Exactly. Morrison is a bust that's they traded him.

MiamiHeat
02-07-2009, 06:03 PM
:laugh2: @ the title

Lakers Acquire The Stash for Vlad Rad

HOZ THE KNICK
02-07-2009, 06:07 PM
charlotte nailed them in that trade.

974life
02-07-2009, 06:09 PM
I like it because we were not getting any use outta vlad at least we dumped that contract and will be able to move forward.

DerekRE_3
02-07-2009, 06:12 PM
wat the heck are u ppl and the cats smoking??? this is a great deal for LA. wow what a ripoff. is morrison that bad?!?!

i thought he was the next Larry Bird, what happen to that?

morrison is a top pick and they already dumped him just like that for vlad? wow what a dumb deal by charlotte. i dont get it

I don't think you understand how BAD Adam Morrison is...

HOZ THE KNICK
02-07-2009, 06:13 PM
I like it because we were not getting any use outta vlad at least we dumped that contract and will be able to move forward.

i hope you guys don't think you improved with morrison because he is a often injured bum...real talk.

soundjunkies2
02-07-2009, 06:13 PM
charlotte nailed them in that trade.

how so?their getting rid of a bad contract and someone who never played.

chicagowhitesox
02-07-2009, 06:15 PM
ha i'm surprised morrison's value was this low. that's hilarious.

HOZ THE KNICK
02-07-2009, 06:19 PM
how so?their getting rid of a bad contract and someone who never played.

you think about it ? your team just aquired a bum that plays about 20 games a yr and yar celebrating like you just aquired amare or something, talking about we got rid of a bad contract what rad has a max contract or something? :pity:

City of Angels
02-07-2009, 06:21 PM
yeah!!!lakers just saved aproxiamitly 15mil.!!!!

vlad rads contract is one year longer at 6 mil which times two is 12...because of luxery tax then the 1mil we save this year and 2mil we save next year comes out to 15mil we save!!!!...give it to ariza, farmar and sign a good FA.

dont tell me this wasnt a good trade for the lakers.

Gibby23
02-07-2009, 06:21 PM
Shannon Brown is actually the best piece the Lakers got in this deal. He can play defense, he's athletic, and he can hit open shots.
Adam Morrison on the other hand, was being outplayed by Cartier Marin, a D-Leaguer on a 10 day contract. Larry Brown himself said that he would rather start Cartier Martin, instead of Adam Morrison.

Morrison can't shoot, can't defend, can't rebound...he can't do anything.

That's what I was going to say, we needed a PG that can play D and hit the Open shot. Im thinking the Lakers might trade Morrison and Farmar for another big man.

HOZ THE KNICK
02-07-2009, 06:24 PM
yeah!!!lakers just saved aproxiamitly 15mil.!!!!

vlad rads contract is one year longer at 6 mil which times two is 12...because of luxery tax then the 1mil we save this year and 2mil we save next year comes out to 15mil we save!!!!...give it to ariza, farmar and sign a good FA.

dont tell me this wasnt a good trade for the lakers.it's homers like you that bring the value down to this site.

Skin&Bones
02-07-2009, 06:26 PM
you think about it ? your team just aquired a bum that plays about 20 games a yr and yar celebrating like you just aquired amare or something, talking about we got rid of a bad contract what rad has a max contract or something? :pity:

You just don't have any idea when it comes to the stance of the lakers in this situation don't you?
Well because of this either he helps us or not, I don't care. He does not needed to be a main contributor in the first place. And plus we have a chance to resign farmar and ariza which is actually excellent for our future. Before you talk, you have to know the situation and see what the big picture is first.

still1ballin
02-07-2009, 06:26 PM
That's what I was going to say, we needed a PG that can play D and hit the Open shot. Im thinking the Lakers might trade Morrison and Farmar for another big man.

Lakers are not trading Farmar.

MiamiHeat
02-07-2009, 06:27 PM
I never seen Morrison play is he that bad?

DerekRE_3
02-07-2009, 06:28 PM
yeah!!!lakers just saved aproxiamitly 15mil.!!!!

vlad rads contract is one year longer at 6 mil which times two is 12...because of luxery tax then the 1mil we save this year and 2mil we save next year comes out to 15mil we save!!!!...give it to ariza, farmar and sign a good FA.

dont tell me this wasnt a good trade for the lakers.

It's not a bad trade for either team. But to Laker fans that think Morrison is going to contribute...well...he's terrible. He's a liability in ever facet of the game.

HOZ THE KNICK
02-07-2009, 06:29 PM
You just don't have any idea when it comes to the stance of the lakers in this situation don't you?
Well because of this either he helps us or not, I don't care. He does not needed to be a main contributor in the first place. And plus we have a chance to resign farmar and ariza which is actually excellent for our future. Before you talk, you have to know the situation and see what the big picture is first.
what situation can't you sign your own free agents over the cap? learn about basketball a then comeback and holla at me.:mad:

HOZ THE KNICK
02-07-2009, 06:30 PM
I never seen Morrison play is he that bad?
awful!

Gibby23
02-07-2009, 06:32 PM
Lakers are not trading Farmar.

You never know.

Skin&Bones
02-07-2009, 06:33 PM
what situation can't you sign your own free agents over the cap? learn about basketball a then comeback and holla at me.:mad:

No wonder your team have been milestones over the cap. You know this is not the yankees. We have the so called Salary Cap Space and if its not taken care of we might end up like The epic failure which is called "Isaiah Thomas New York Knicks dip **** job"

Your a disgrace for a knick fan.

City of Angels
02-07-2009, 06:35 PM
It's not a bad trade for either team. But to Laker fans that think Morrison is going to contribute...well...he's terrible. He's a liability in ever facet of the game.


No wonder your team have been milestones over the cap. You know this is not the yankees. We have the so called Salary Cap Space and if its not taken care of we might end up like The epic failure which is called "Isaiah Thomas New York Knicks dip **** job"

Your a disgrace for a knick fan.

agreed!

HOZ THE KNICK
02-07-2009, 06:36 PM
No wonder your team have been milestones over the cap. You know this is not the yankees. We have the so called Salary Cap Space and if its not taken care of we might end up like The epic failure which is called "Isaiah Thomas New York Knicks dip **** job"

Your a disgrace for a knick fan.you a disgrace for your lakers

Skin&Bones
02-07-2009, 06:40 PM
you a disgrace for your mama.

:up:

Becks2307
02-07-2009, 06:40 PM
I actually love this trade for the lakers..I mean..he had an decent rookie season then he missed all of his second season...so he is basically a sophomore...If he gets playing time he will flourish. This trade is probably the wake up call he needs...he will gain so much playing vs Kobe in practice

cHi8DaL5LA420
02-07-2009, 06:44 PM
i like this trade... i just hope with our 1st class coaching that we can get the best out of adam morrison..he was great in college

cambovenzi
02-07-2009, 06:45 PM
eww.
im a JJ fan FTW.

not like vlad rad was anything great tho.

MagicBucsSox
02-07-2009, 06:48 PM
LA gon boo morrison to everytime he touch the ball like they did kwame lol

weebs
02-07-2009, 06:49 PM
lakers fans that are cheering this have clearly never seen adam morrison play on a professional level. the guy is a trainwreck. he's just totally overmatched.

MagicBucsSox
02-07-2009, 06:50 PM
I actually love this trade for the lakers..I mean..he had an decent rookie season then he missed all of his second season...so he is basically a sophomore...If he gets playing time he will flourish. This trade is probably the wake up call he needs...he will gain so much playing vs Kobe in practice

bro idk, going against kobe the greatest player perimeter player since 99 is gon either make or break his career

BoltLakerPadre
02-07-2009, 06:52 PM
only reason for this that I see is that the Lakers are going to be making a bigger move.

That was my first thought, otherwise this trade makes little sense. Sure it's nice to get rid of Vlad's contract, but what do we need another spacey outside shooter with no D for? And Brown? We don't have room on the rooster for him. Odd deal, hope something interesting comes from this, I'll be watching.

JordansBulls
02-07-2009, 06:53 PM
Doesn't help the Lakers.

KB24>MJ23
02-07-2009, 06:56 PM
i think that bigger things are in the works...

soundjunkies2
02-07-2009, 07:00 PM
Doesn't help the Lakers.

Yeah but doesn't hurt them either.

ARMIN12NBA
02-07-2009, 07:05 PM
Doesn't help the Lakers.

It does. Less cap space means Buss is more inclined to sign Ariza. Not to mention Vladdy was becoming a bit of a nuisance in the locker-room because he was complaining about playing time. They get two guys with potential.

Very low risk, high potential.

JJ81
02-07-2009, 07:06 PM
48 hours later, Morrison is traded (hopefully).


I'm happy with getting Shannon Brown because he's a young 6' 4" PG with great athletic ability (kinda like Smush Parker except not an idiot).

lakerboy
02-07-2009, 07:09 PM
Mbenga, Morrison and Mihm for Brad Miller. LETS GO!!

HOZ THE KNICK
02-07-2009, 07:15 PM
Mbenga, Morrison and Mihm for Brad Miller. LETS GO!!
you can not trade the same player again for 90 days.

DitchDat
02-07-2009, 07:15 PM
I thought they were looking for a big man?

td0tsfinest
02-07-2009, 07:17 PM
Hmmm..Morrison Failed under Michael Jordan...let see what Kobe can do with him.

YankeeFan89
02-07-2009, 07:17 PM
I can see Adam doing well..cause he would have no pressure...just hope the laker fans are behind him.

weebs
02-07-2009, 07:22 PM
I can see Adam doing well..cause he would have no pressure...just hope the laker fans are behind him.

because playing in charlotte where nobody cares to the biggest fan base in the NBA to the best team in the west isn't pressure? :confused::confused::confused::confused:

Fool
02-07-2009, 07:23 PM
People woh are saying that the Bobcats get the much better deal don't know what they're talking about. Vlad's contract was t-e-r-r-i-b-l-e.

_KB24_
02-07-2009, 07:25 PM
would have made more sense for LA to trade walton instead for radman. hes still a deep threat from outside and played well with our starting 5.
Shannon Brown may help us down the road and has a very similar style as Ariza

EddieB
02-07-2009, 07:26 PM
Vlad is awful, can't make a wide open 3 on a consistent basis, can't defend, to slow to run out a 3 on defense and makes to many turnovers, and along with that contract, good riddance!!!!!!!!

Fool
02-07-2009, 07:28 PM
if morrison gets a championship ill be PISSED....

:)


Only other player they can trade is Lamar Odom....

hmmm.

Jamesfrom818
02-07-2009, 07:33 PM
Can't wait for cocky *** Farmar to destroy Morrison's manhood.

S.J.Basketball
02-07-2009, 07:34 PM
My friend used to live on the same dorm floor as Morrison back at Gonzaga. Morrison is nasty. No hygene with the worst stache ever. He said the guy used to play Xbox all day and smoke weed. if you beat him in Halo he would get really pissed.

Now he's a Laker? LoL Kobe is gonna eat this guy alive.

EddieB
02-07-2009, 07:34 PM
Maybe Morrison can be the kobe stopper in practice now

S.J.Basketball
02-07-2009, 07:38 PM
I just don't get it. We wanted to get rid of Vlads contract yea, but Morrison? LOL whatever man...........

GoatMilk
02-07-2009, 07:44 PM
who cares who the Lakers got?
they lost Vlad. that is a win

RileyJ
02-07-2009, 07:45 PM
48 hours later, Morrison is traded (hopefully).


I'm happy with getting Shannon Brown because he's a young 6' 4" PG with great athletic ability (kinda like Smush Parker except not an idiot).

You cant trade a player that you just aquired in a trade for 60 days. Morrison can't be traded until the summer guys.

RileyJ
02-07-2009, 07:53 PM
Read paragraph 2 in this thread. A player that was recently traded CAN NOT be moved again for 60 days. I've been saying this since this thread was started and people keep saying the Lakers are going to trade Morrison right away. He's not eligble to be traded until a month after the deadline. Cmon guys know the rules.


http://dimemag.com/2008/12/nba-trade-rumor-boris-diaw-for-eddy-curry/

dsonLAL24
02-07-2009, 07:53 PM
i dont understand why the lakers did this.

Bad defender, bad rebounder. All he can do is shoot, and hes very inconsistent at that. Why trade Vlad, a guy who has playoff expierence and is 6'10 shooter, for morrison. dont understand it

dumping a worthless huge contract. Vlad has'nt played that well with the Lakers anyway so im happy bringing in a player with potential who might fit in better with Jackson's system.

cambovenzi
02-07-2009, 07:55 PM
the thing is, vladdy has been shooting the lights out from 3.
other than the age difference, i dont see many areas where trash stash is better.

DerekRE_3
02-07-2009, 07:57 PM
the thing is, vladdy has been shooting the lights out from 3.
other than the age difference, i dont see many areas where trash stash is better.

The only player on the Bobcats Adam Morrison was better than was Alexis Ajinca. Cartier Martin, a D-League guy on a 10 day contact, was outplaying him.

Martin: 6.7 ppg in 12 min 45% 3 point fg
Morrison: 4.5 ppg on 36% shooting, 34% 3 point fg

That's how bad Morrison is.

Chronz
02-07-2009, 08:00 PM
The Lakers got slightly worse, but Shannon could end up being something

Chronz
02-07-2009, 08:02 PM
You cant trade a player that you just aquired in a trade for 60 days. Morrison can't be traded until the summer guys.

Ever heard of Rasheed Wallace to Detroit after being traded to Atlanta?

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-07-2009, 08:04 PM
Its all about money people. It was not to use Morrison. They are going to save 8 million over the next 2 years. And if you add the 8 million they were going to have to pay in luxury tax, that means this deal saved them 16 million dollars. Its really a no brainier.

Living Legend
02-07-2009, 08:05 PM
The only player on the Bobcats Adam Morrison was better than was Alexis Ajinca. Cartier Martin, a D-League guy on a 10 day contact, was outplaying him.

Martin: 6.7 ppg in 12 min 45% 3 point fg
Morrison: 4.5 ppg on 36% shooting, 34% 3 point fg

That's how bad Morrison is.

Morrison was one of the best players in college basketball.

Laker fans think that Kobe will crack the whip on him and that hopefully being around the winning atmosphere will help him.

There is a chance he could be an all star if he figures it all out because he has a buttload of talent.

RileyJ
02-07-2009, 08:06 PM
Ever heard of Rasheed Wallace to Detroit after being traded to Atlanta?

It can't be done unless it's a 3 team trade. Read the paragraph. The Lakers have to wait 60 days.

http://dimemag.com/2008/12/nba-trade-rumor-boris-diaw-for-eddy-curry/

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-07-2009, 08:08 PM
Morrison was one of the best players in college basketball.

Laker fans think that Kobe will crack the whip on him and that hopefully being around the winning atmosphere will help him.

There is a chance he could be an all star if he figures it all out because he has a buttload of talent.

He could be okay. Phil has a way of getting role players to know their roles and help the team that way.

Just like Ariza, the Knicks who were awful didn't want him, then the Magic did not see any value in him, he comes to the Lakers and all of a sudden, Laker fans feel the Lakers cant win a ring without him

Lost Art
02-07-2009, 08:10 PM
Scrubs for scrubs. I guess Morrison could prove to be useful..........and if he's not, Vlad wasn't getting any PT anyway. I guess its a nice move for the Lakers, if Morrison can figure out how to play in the NBA he could be a nice SF.

ramansingh3
02-07-2009, 08:11 PM
its a decent deal for both teams. The bobcats drafted morrison with the 3rd pick in the 2006 draft and they dealt him for radmonovic. Its pretty much they burned up the 3rd pick in the draft on radmonovic.

FaceDown91
02-07-2009, 08:14 PM
pretty good trade for the lakers. they get money and they get a younger version of basically the same thing.

Kakaroach
02-07-2009, 08:15 PM
its a decent deal for both teams. The bobcats drafted morrison with the 3rd pick in the 2006 draft and they dealt him for radmonovic. Its pretty much they burned up the 3rd pick in the draft on radmonovic. Lmao. Ironic how that turned out huh? Imagine Radmonovich being the 3rd pick in the draft...

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-07-2009, 08:19 PM
The funny thing is, Mitch likes to take Jordan's bust picks. First Kwame, now Morrison. Weird

moefarhatmd
02-07-2009, 08:25 PM
is morrison goiing to play sunday....

I think phil will bring out the best in him, look at ariza and he wasnt even playing in orlando

Big Quett
02-07-2009, 08:31 PM
Horrible. So that's one plus. The second plus is Morrison fits the Triangle. The third plus is, he's young and has shown flashes. If he pans out, we stole him. If he doesn't, we gave up a terrible contract to get him. This happens to be a very low risk/very high reward type deal.

They have about same contract. The only difference is Rad has actually proved he can play on this level.

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-07-2009, 08:33 PM
They have the same contract. The only difference is Rad has actually proved he can play on this level.

No they dont. Morrison makes $1 million dollars less and his contact expires one year before Radmonivich's does

Chronz
02-07-2009, 08:35 PM
It can't be done unless it's a 3 team trade. Read the paragraph. The Lakers have to wait 60 days.

http://dimemag.com/2008/12/nba-trade-rumor-boris-diaw-for-eddy-curry/

I assure you, thats not how it works. You can trade a player straight up, he just cant be packaged with other players on the team. The only thing Im unsure of is if there is a 2 day window or something like that.

Rasheed was dealt to the Hawks, and then in a separate trade dealt to the Pistons within 2 days I think, he even played 1 game for the Hawks and scored like 20pts.

lakerboy
02-07-2009, 08:36 PM
They have about same contract. The only difference is Rad has actually proved he can play on this level.

They don't have the same contract.

lakerboy
02-07-2009, 08:38 PM
I assure you, thats not how it works. You can trade a player straight up, he just cant be packaged with other players on the team. The only thing Im unsure of is if there is a 2 day window or something like that.

Rasheed was dealt to the Hawks, and then in a separate trade dealt to the Pistons within 2 days I think, he even played 1 game for the Hawks and scored like 20pts.

Wow. Good memory.

You're actually right.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3006/career;_ylt=AiAU9a3T6GnxAlOsjPjBnrwNPKB4

Rasheed did play for the Hawks for one game.

Chronz
02-07-2009, 08:41 PM
He could be okay. Phil has a way of getting role players to know their roles and help the team that way.

Just like Ariza, the Knicks who were awful didn't want him, then the Magic did not see any value in him, he comes to the Lakers and all of a sudden, Laker fans feel the Lakers cant win a ring without him
Yes about Phil but no about Ariza.

He showed decent potential in New York but had to be traded to entice the Magic to give them the "All-Star". He was great his first stint in Orlando, it wasnt until they hired Van Gundy and his 3pt heavy system that he not fit in, they thought Mo and Cook were better fits. But yes Phil did bring out the absolute best in him, but believe me Ive been following Ariza very closely since he left UCLA. Hes always had the defensive talent, now hes becoming an incredibly efficient offensive player. Morrison is already 24, how much better can he get?

Say what you will of PER and Winshares, but he has failed to crack the league average if you combine BOTH of his seasons in PER, and is negative to his team in WinShares, thats a very hard feet to accomplish.

Chronz
02-07-2009, 08:45 PM
Wow. Good memory.

You're actually right.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3006/career;_ylt=AiAU9a3T6GnxAlOsjPjBnrwNPKB4

Rasheed did play for the Hawks for one game.

Yea I only remember because the article had a punch line, something about never in history has a team that just recently acquired a player that averaged 20PTS for them been traded the same year or something. It was a joke article but it really stuck.

Yet I cant remember my anniversary even though its been the same day for 4 years now.

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-07-2009, 08:50 PM
Yes about Phil but no about Ariza.

He showed decent potential in New York but had to be traded to entice the Magic to give them the "All-Star". He was great his first stint in Orlando, it wasnt until they hired Van Gundy and his 3pt heavy system that he not fit in, they thought Mo and Cook were better fits. But yes Phil did bring out the absolute best in him, but believe me Ive been following Ariza very closely since he left UCLA. Hes always had the defensive talent, now hes becoming an incredibly efficient offensive player. Morrison is already 24, how much better can he get?

Say what you will of PER and Winshares, but he has failed to crack the league average if you combine BOTH of his seasons in PER, and is negative to his team in WinShares, thats a very hard feet to accomplish.

I'm not saying he will be great for the Lakers. Chances are he is just a way for the Lakers to save money.

But about the win shares, he played for the Bobcats, aren't they all in the negative in win shares? I mean if you win 11 games a season and the roster has 15 guys on it, very few should be in the plus :)

Big Quett
02-07-2009, 08:53 PM
They don't have the same contract.

I said ABOUT. It is really about a Mil a year difference. And i would rather pay Vlad. Like i said he has atleast proved he can play. What has Adam done?

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_lakers.htm


Morrison was one of the best players in college basketball.

Laker fans think that Kobe will crack the whip on him and that hopefully being around the winning atmosphere will help him.

There is a chance he could be an all star if he figures it all out because he has a buttload of talent.

:puke: are you kidding me? This by a guy would got he ankle broke by Luke Walton? Lakers fan better keep him away from Luke in practice.

snickers
02-07-2009, 09:06 PM
My friend used to live on the same dorm floor as Morrison back at Gonzaga. Morrison is nasty. No hygene with the worst stache ever. He said the guy used to play Xbox all day and smoke weed. if you beat him in Halo he would get really pissed.

Now he's a Laker? LoL Kobe is gonna eat this guy alive.


him and odom are gonna get along so well.

Living Legend
02-07-2009, 09:09 PM
My friend used to live on the same dorm floor as Morrison back at Gonzaga. Morrison is nasty. No hygene with the worst stache ever. He said the guy used to play Xbox all day and smoke weed. if you beat him in Halo he would get really pissed.

Now he's a Laker? LoL Kobe is gonna eat this guy alive.

He sounds like a real competitor.

I am very excited to have him on the Lakers :D :clap: :p

oldenpolynice
02-07-2009, 09:10 PM
Adam Morrison! The Lakers traded for Adam Freaking Morrison! The Adam Morrison who can't even start for the Bobcats? The Adam Morrison who may be the biggest bust since Darko Milicic?

This is the best news I've heard since A-Rod got outed as a steroid user!

what54!?
02-07-2009, 09:11 PM
Morrison hit the jackpot. He gets to start for a championship team

RileyJ
02-07-2009, 09:12 PM
I assure you, thats not how it works. You can trade a player straight up, he just cant be packaged with other players on the team. The only thing Im unsure of is if there is a 2 day window or something like that.

Rasheed was dealt to the Hawks, and then in a separate trade dealt to the Pistons within 2 days I think, he even played 1 game for the Hawks and scored like 20pts.

You can not trade a player who you just traded to get for 60 days. Everybody knows that man. It's part of the collective bargaining agreement. I guarantee he can't get traded until the offseason.

Living Legend
02-07-2009, 09:12 PM
Adam Morrison! The Lakers traded for Adam Freaking Morrison! The Adam Morrison who can't even start for the Bobcats? The Adam Morrison who may be the biggest bust since Darko Milicic?

This is the best news I've heard since A-Rod got outed as a steroid user!

The Mo' is going to be a monster for the Lakers

J4KOP99
02-07-2009, 09:13 PM
I cant even explain in words how much I hate Adam Morrison. Unless the Lakers did this to set up another trade I dont know why they would do this. He has proved absolutely nothing, atleast Vlad can have a good game every once in a while.


This is such ********, **** Adam Morrison.

what54!?
02-07-2009, 09:18 PM
I cant even explain in words how much I hate Adam Morrison. Unless the Lakers did this to set up another trade I dont know why they would do this. He has proved absolutely nothing, atleast Vlad can have a good game every once in a while.


This is such ********, **** Adam Morrison.don't think they have something planned

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-07-2009, 09:23 PM
don't think they have something planned

The plan is to save 8 million dollars in salary cap and 8 million dollars in luxury tax. Seems like a smart trade to me. Vlad did nothing for the Lakers. And neither will Morrison, but he will save them $16,000,000!!!!!!!

Kakaroach
02-07-2009, 09:25 PM
I cant even explain in words how much I hate Adam Morrison. Unless the Lakers did this to set up another trade I dont know why they would do this. He has proved absolutely nothing, atleast Vlad can have a good game every once in a while.


This is such ********, **** Adam Morrison. Wow nice of you Laker fans to give Morrison such a nice welcoming...:cheer:

what54!?
02-07-2009, 09:26 PM
The plan is to save 8 million dollars in salary cap and 8 million dollars in luxory tax. Seems like a smart trade to me. Vlad did nothing for the Lakers. And neither will Morrison, but he will save them $16,000,000!!!!!!!oh makes sense so they can sign ariza back

HOZ THE KNICK
02-07-2009, 09:27 PM
lakers fans will be running him out of town in a few weeks.

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-07-2009, 09:28 PM
oh makes sense so they can sign ariza back

Exactly! I dont care how rich you are. Nobody wants to pay an extra $16 million dollars for a third string small forward who will never get off the bench and was complaining about it.

KeithLBC
02-07-2009, 09:30 PM
Morrison hit the jackpot. He gets to start for a championship team

He definately won't be starting, he'll be lucky if he makes it off the bench. Luke Walton is our starter and Trevor Ariza comes off the bench.



Wow nice of you Laker fans to give Morrison such a nice welcoming...:cheer:

The poster you quoted isn't a Lakers fan :rolleyes:

Shortys4711
02-07-2009, 09:31 PM
I like his chances

LOL Love your Pics man.

KeithLBC
02-07-2009, 09:33 PM
You can not trade a player who you just traded to get for 60 days. Everybody knows that man. It's part of the collective bargaining agreement. I guarantee he can't get traded until the offseason.


No, what the rule says is


If a team acquires a player in a trade, they are allowed to trade that player straight-up for another individual player immediately. However, if they wish to package that player with another and make a trade, the team must wait 60 days before doing so.


You can trade him straight up at any time. There is no 2 day window though, I have no idea where that came from :confused:

At the time of the Rasheed trade, there was no rule about trading a recently traded player :)

what54!?
02-07-2009, 09:33 PM
well morrison may get a ring outta this. Highlight of his career maybe. :shrug:

KeithLBC
02-07-2009, 09:36 PM
well morrison may get a ring outta this. Highlight of his career maybe. :shrug:

Hopefully :D

Kakaroach
02-07-2009, 09:37 PM
The poster you quoted isn't a Lakers fan :rolleyes: Whoops lol. My bad. But still, I watched this guy play for Gonzaga a lot, and he was passionate and had the best shot I had ever seen in years. All he has to do is elevate and it went it. Hopefully now that he's in LA, he'll be much better.

KeithLBC
02-07-2009, 09:41 PM
Whoops lol. My bad. But still, I watched this guy play for Gonzaga a lot, and he was passionate and had the best shot I had ever seen in years. All he has to do is elevate and it went it. Hopefully now that he's in LA, he'll be much better.

That's all we (as Lakers fans) can hope for. He injured his ACL playing against us last year, and it typically takes a year or so after that kinda injury to get back into shape. If he could get comfortable in LA and get back to what he was in college, it'll be a steal for us. If nothing else, he provides cap space relief in 10-11 and takes up Vlade's spot on the bench :)

theimortalone
02-07-2009, 09:44 PM
THE BIGGEST TRADE IN NBA HISTORY!!!! MORRISON IS GONNA BE A SUPERSTAR IN LA! :rolleyes:





Hope no one thinks that I am serious! :D

hamsta74
02-07-2009, 09:57 PM
Its all about money people. It was not to use Morrison. They are going to save 8 million over the next 2 years. And if you add the 8 million they were going to have to pay in luxury tax, that means this deal saved them 16 million dollars. Its really a no brainier.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Lakers have been trying to get rid of Vlad's contract for a while now and finally found a taker. Morrison is virtually a shorter version of Vlad with a shorter less expensive contract and Shannon Brown is that 3rd PG the Lakers needed when Farmar went down with that injury. My bet is that Fisher comes down with a mysterious injury that lets him sit out a few games to rest his old legs so that he is fresh for the playoffs.

The1ronHorse
02-07-2009, 09:57 PM
Lol wow. The whole time he is in college im like look at this scummy guy and now he is on my team how ironic. I thought it was actually a decent trade, in my opinion the lakers get back two guys who might be able to bring some good minutes off the bench and produce. Sure Morrison is a bad defender, bad rebounder and inconsistent, but something tells me that you shouldn't sleep on him. Injuries play a big part in mental problems as well as physical.

Kakaroach
02-07-2009, 10:02 PM
THE BIGGEST TRADE IN NBA HISTORY!!!! MORRISON IS GONNA BE A SUPERSTAR IN LA! :rolleyes:





Hope no one thinks that I am serious! :D I didn't say he was magically going to become a superstar, but he could be a potential starter for the Lakers down the road and he is still very young. As long as he doesn't get injured....

hamsta74
02-07-2009, 10:02 PM
You can not trade a player who you just traded to get for 60 days. Everybody knows that man. It's part of the collective bargaining agreement. I guarantee he can't get traded until the offseason.

you can be traded!!! but only in a 1 for 1 deal and you can not be traded back to the same team. look up the rules before you start bashing other people's posts.

MickeyMgl
02-07-2009, 10:03 PM
Sweet. I actually like this a lot. Outside Ariza, we can't play D at SF, so why not add another scorer for Kobe to throw the ball to?

Except that Morrison shoots AND defends worse than Rad.

RileyJ
02-07-2009, 10:10 PM
No, what the rule says is




You can trade him straight up at any time. There is no 2 day window though, I have no idea where that came from :confused:

At the time of the Rasheed trade, there was no rule about trading a recently traded player :)

No there is a 2 day window. After that the lakers can't trade him for 60 days. It's part of the collective bargaining agreement. You can trade a player that you just traded for if you are already in talks with another team to trade him to and you have 2 days to complete that deal. Trust me my best friend is a score keeper for the Grizzlies and he has a copy of the NBA handbook. I've read it several times.

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-07-2009, 10:18 PM
No there is a 2 day window. After that the lakers can't trade him for 60 days. It's part of the collective bargaining agreement. You can trade a player that you just traded for if you are already in talks with another team to trade him to and you have 2 days to complete that deal. Trust me my best friend is a score keeper for the Grizzlies and he has a copy of the NBA handbook. I've read it several times.

It does not matter if they can not trade him today, tomorrow or 3 months from now. He has no trade value. He is just more cap and luxury tax friendly for the Lakers than Vlad was. Nobody else is going to take him and give anything back in return. So this whole rant you guys have been on, is a mute point

fresh prince
02-07-2009, 10:20 PM
BEST POST SO FAR.

I'm sure Sasha can teach him a thing or two.

And btw, I like this thread for the Lakers.

Radmanovic sucks balls. He doesn't D, and is a huge bonehead. For all of you who doesn't watch much LA games, Vlade barely plays already. He is a third stringer behind Walton and Ariza. Moreover, he's got a really really bad contract. Ariza must be smiling right now,.. this is a move to save $$ and sign him next summer.

Bingo! Him and Lamar as well quite possibly. Personally I was in Vlad's corner for a while but his defensive mishaps were brutal.. and that's why he was in Phil's dig house..and racking up DNP Cd's

Morrison is a shooter yes..but he CAN also score in other ways whereas Vlad is only a stand still shooter..

Now its just a matter of Morrison showing his stuff in the lmited if any minutes he'll get..

Shannon Brown's athleticism could get him into the rotation or at least push Sasha for minutes..

Bobcats also come up in this deal. Vlad should be relieved he'll be seeing minutes now..I think the Cats could sneak in the Playoffs once Crash gets back..

KeithLBC
02-07-2009, 10:23 PM
No there is a 2 day window. After that the lakers can't trade him for 60 days. It's part of the collective bargaining agreement. You can trade a player that you just traded for if you are already in talks with another team to trade him to and you have 2 days to complete that deal. Trust me my best friend is a score keeper for the Grizzlies and he has a copy of the NBA handbook. I've read it several times.

This is what I found about trading a recently aquired player...


If a team acquires a player in a trade, they are allowed to trade that player straight-up for another individual player immediately. However, if they wish to package that player with another and make a trade, the team must wait 60 days before doing so.

Please provide a link for me if there's a 2-day window regarding trading a recently aquired player in addition to another player. I've read several portions of the CBA, and I'm not claiming to completely understand it, but I've never seen the "2 day window rule". The CBA's online, so provide a link, I don't know you well enough to "trust you" ;)

RileyJ
02-07-2009, 10:28 PM
This is what I found about trading a recently aquired player...



Please provide a link for me if there's a 2-day window. I've read several portions of the CBA, and I'm not claiming to completely understand it, but I've never seen the "2 day window rule". The CBA's online, so provide a link, I don't know you well enough to "trust you" ;)


Here's the only link I could find but, I just popped three 20 mg adderall so I'm flying right now and I think I'm going to read the NBA handbook again.

http://dimemag.com/2008/12/nba-trade-rumor-boris-diaw-for-eddy-curry/

KeithLBC
02-07-2009, 10:31 PM
Here's the only link I could find but, I just popped three mg adderall so I'm flying right now and I think I'm going to read the NBA handbook again.

http://dimemag.com/2008/12/nba-trade-rumor-boris-diaw-for-eddy-curry/


are you not reading what I posted? What I said is you can trade him straight up at any time. He can be traded on the first day, second, third, etc... He cannot be paired up with another player and traded. I've posted the quote from the CBA several times, you're just not reading what's being posted :rolleyes:

Besides, like Dodgers&Lakers already said, he's not going to be traded, so this is going nowhere :cool:

RileyJ
02-07-2009, 10:34 PM
are you not reading what I posted? What I said is you can trade him straight up at any time. He can be traded on the first day, second, third, etc... He cannot be paired up with another player and traded. I've posted the quote from the CBA several times, you're just not reading what's being posted :rolleyes:

Besides, like Dodgers&Lakers already said, he's not going to be traded, so this is going nowhere :cool:

He can't be traded period unless the Lakers were in talks with a trading partner for Morrison before they aquired him. I have the handbook right in front of me. If I had a scanner I'd scan it and post it for you.

FWBrodie
02-07-2009, 10:43 PM
Adam Morrison may be lazy, but Vlad Rad is a space cadet. He's a cancer and Morrison has upside. Plus, Shannon Brown brings some athleticism to the bench that they lost when Ariza left.

NyK #8 Ro0st3r
02-07-2009, 10:53 PM
Vlad had a very bad contract, for what he was putting out, he wasn't worth it. And the
Laker's get another guard in Shannon brown who getting minutes can produce, its average deal to me.

magichatnumber9
02-07-2009, 11:01 PM
i'm just kidding Adam is a good guy.

RileyJ
02-07-2009, 11:10 PM
They could have probably got J.J. Redick for Vlad too. Vlad would fit perfectly with the Magic. A big foward who shoots 3's. They probably could have gotten Redick and J.J. is a much better player.

Chronz
02-07-2009, 11:38 PM
You can not trade a player who you just traded to get for 60 days. Everybody knows that man. It's part of the collective bargaining agreement. I guarantee he can't get traded until the offseason.

Then how do you account for Rasheed Wallace?

Lakermania33
02-07-2009, 11:49 PM
It's not a bad trade for either team. But to Laker fans that think Morrison is going to contribute...well...he's terrible. He's a liability in ever facet of the game.

I agree. I think this trade is a standoff. I think Charlotte fans know Morrison better than Laker fans and vice versa with Vlad. How do we argue about who got screwed? I do know that Laker fans if for no other reason are happy that we got the same player with 1 less year on his contract. On the other hand I do think the Cats improve their team.

nd4T.O.
02-07-2009, 11:55 PM
im kinda happy to see the "Stash" in purple and gold...now we need phil to motovate him

RileyJ
02-07-2009, 11:58 PM
Then how do you account for Rasheed Wallace?

They either changed the rule after Rasheed went from Portland to Atlanta to Detroit or Atlanta had a deal in the works with Detroit before they traded for him. I don't really remember that situation too well but, I do know it hasn't happened since.

Gibby23
02-08-2009, 12:04 AM
They either changed the rule after Rasheed went from Portland to Atlanta to Detroit or Atlanta had a deal in the works with Detroit before they traded for him. I don't really remember that situation too well but, I do know it hasn't happened since.

Yeah,you are wrong. They can trade him, but can't package the 2 together.

Gibby23
02-08-2009, 12:07 AM
If a team acquires a player in a trade, they are allowed to trade that player straight-up for another individual player immediately. However, if they wish to package that player with another and make a trade, the team must wait 60 days before doing so

They can't put him in a package with anyone, they can trade him straight up.

JabberJaw
02-08-2009, 12:17 AM
This is clearly a move to get rid of a bad contract. VladRad wasn't playing at all, and is still owed over 6 million for the next two seasons after this one. Morrisons contract is cheaper, and is done after next season. No brainer. Morrison has not shown that he is any good, yet...but Vlad clearly had no place on the Lakers roster. When you Luke takes your starting spot, and doesn't give it back, you suck. Vlad was known as the "space cadet", and for a good reason.
If Vlad will work well on a team that has nothing really to play for. He is a liability against any good team. Plus, Morrison won't play...the Lakers don't need him. Clearly a salary dump.

NBAdyNASTY
02-08-2009, 12:22 AM
I think this is a great move also. I think there is something else bigger in the works. Morrison is young and has the potential. Vlade wasn't doing anything anyways.

SouljahPhil...
02-08-2009, 12:23 AM
Adam Morrison may be lazy, but Vlad Rad is a space cadet. He's a cancer and Morrison has upside. Plus, Shannon Brown brings some athleticism to the bench that they lost when Ariza left.

what do you mean by this??

SouljahPhil...
02-08-2009, 12:24 AM
Nice move mitch..But we will miss vlad's shooting and the nights that he will drill 5 or more 3's...

NBAdyNASTY
02-08-2009, 12:49 AM
charlotte nailed them in that trade.

You obviously don't know your basketball from a management perspective. Vlade was barely playing and has frequent lapses on defense. The reason for this trade was to free up the 6.5 million he was going to be paid next season (6.9 million the following season on a player option). Mitch has something else up his sleeve. There is a reason why he is freeing up cap space......
Shaq? Stoudemire? Miller? We'll see before Feb.19th most likely.
They dumped that crummy contract, plus, Morrison will be a free agent this summer. So, how exactly did the Laker's get nailed on that one?

stevefrancis
02-08-2009, 12:54 AM
5000 views on a stupid trade like this wow just because the lakers do something its over hyped. they sign cobe karl next week 10,000 views dam you laker homers need to find other things to do

KeithLBC
02-08-2009, 01:08 AM
5000 views on a stupid trade like this wow just because the lakers do something its over hyped. they sign cobe karl next week 10,000 views dam you laker homers need to find other things to do

you opened it and posted in it, what's that say about you :rolleyes:

Statik1
02-08-2009, 01:10 AM
5000 views on a stupid trade like this wow just because the lakers do something its over hyped. they sign cobe karl next week 10,000 views dam you laker homers need to find other things to do

Sucks to envy another team doesn't it? lol

How does it feel to want?

#1Mavericksfan
02-08-2009, 01:13 AM
I wouldn't mind having Vlad Radmanovic on the Mavs...he seems like a good player to me.

lakers4sho
02-08-2009, 01:26 AM
I wouldn't mind having Vlad Radmanovic on the Mavs...he seems like a good player to me.

You are terribly wrong muh man :cool:

Statik1
02-08-2009, 01:30 AM
I wouldn't mind having Vlad Radmanovic on the Mavs...he seems like a good player to me.

Trust me you would want to choke him out after the first game he touched the court if you guys had him

homestarunner93
02-08-2009, 02:18 AM
Morrison is horrible, horrible, horrible. Take it from a Bobcats fan, the guy can't do anything right. It has nothing to do with losing, or not being right for a system, or anything of the sort. He just doesn't have the game to be successful in the NBA. Enjoy this pile of crap, LA. Shannon Brown (:laugh2:) has a better chance of being effective than him.

hotdogbun
02-08-2009, 02:50 AM
the stash for the trash!
LA wanted a bag of chips for radman and LA is gettin their wish done

x_notorious
02-08-2009, 02:54 AM
Morrison is horrible, horrible, horrible. Take it from a Bobcats fan, the guy can't do anything right. It has nothing to do with losing, or not being right for a system, or anything of the sort. He just doesn't have the game to be successful in the NBA. Enjoy this pile of crap, LA. Shannon Brown (:laugh2:) has a better chance of being effective than him.

On the contrary, the player the Bobcats is receiving also sucks. Yes, he can shoot from 3, but that's it. He can't defend consistently, makes horrible passes and stupid choices. They don't call him 'space cadet' for nothing. On top of that, he makes $6 million this year, $6.4 million next and a player option the year after for $6.8 which he will likely take since there is no way in hell he'll make more then that money in the open market.

For the Lakers perspective, it's a mere salary dump. Morrison makes almost less than $2 million than Vladdy this year, $1.2 million next year and then he's gone.

If Vlad could barely get any minutes with the Lakers, what will Morrison get? Probably close to none unless it's garbage time. Ariza, Walton, Odom and even sometimes Kobe will get the nod over Morrison at SF.

lakers4sho
02-08-2009, 03:11 AM
^^ Exactly

I think it's funny how Bobcats fans are all over this deal when the guy they're receiving isn't any better.

king4day
02-08-2009, 03:22 AM
^^ Exactly

I think it's funny how Bobcats fans are all over this deal when the guy they're receiving isn't any better.

It's because now they get a veteran to come off the bench. Since Morrison was hardly used, this will deepen their lineups.

No one expects him to be a savior, but if used right, he can add to the cats bench.

michaelbt18
02-08-2009, 03:28 AM
^^ Exactly

I think it's funny how Bobcats fans are all over this deal when the guy they're receiving isn't any better.

I dont think you have any idea how horrible Morrison is. It would probably be better to have a fan on the team then him, at least they would be happy. You will see if he ever gets to play. He looks like a ****** with a broken leg when he runs.

lakers4sho
02-08-2009, 03:35 AM
I dont think you have any idea how horrible Morrison is. It would probably be better to have a fan on the team then him, at least they would be happy. You will see if he ever gets to play. He looks like a ****** with a broken leg when he runs.

And you guys have no idea how horrible Radmanovic is.

At least Morrison looks like a ****** when he runs. Radmanovic can't even run at all.

Kyle916
02-08-2009, 03:36 AM
This trade doesn't make too much sense to me.

KeithLBC
02-08-2009, 03:39 AM
it's pretty rare when fans of both teams are satisfied :p

michaelbt18
02-08-2009, 03:46 AM
Compromise! They both suck. Vlad cant run, Adam is a ******. I think both teams just dont like the one they have so they just decided to switch.

NFLNBA
02-08-2009, 03:49 AM
Both teams get better......

Lakers have no more room at SF with Ariza and Walton and Radman was there 3rd string SF geting almost 7 mil a year now the Lakers get a SF that wont play and making half that price. Also lakers get a young guard that can defend but he also wont play to much, so what did the Lakers win and lose?

Win - Really they traded for another player that wont play, but now they have money to sign Ariza to long term deal

Loss - Nothing a 3 from time 2 time when he would play but with every 3 he made he gave twice that to the guy he guards.

Bobcats wins and loses?

Win - Radman will play alot more for the Bobcats because of the lack of size and they like his shot, but Larry Brown is big on D and he is the last SF-PF you want out there for that.

Loss - They take Radmans HUGE contract for a player that is a huge risk

lakers4sho
02-08-2009, 04:02 AM
Compromise! They both suck. Vlad cant run, Adam is a ******. I think both teams just dont like the one they have so they just decided to switch.

No, I don't get it from the Bobcats standpoint. At least the Lakers had a reason [ financially ] to do the deal.

Meanwhile, I don't know what inspired the Cats to pull the trigger on this one :shrug:

DerekRE_3
02-08-2009, 04:17 AM
No, I don't get it from the Bobcats standpoint. At least the Lakers had a reason [ financially ] to do the deal.

Meanwhile, I don't know what inspired the Cats to pull the trigger on this one :shrug:

All the Cats wanted from Morrison was his ability to hit outside shots, and he couldn't even do that. If Vlad can come in and hit some 3's (which he has shown he can do, 44% from 3) then they will be happy.

The Cats are desperate for bench help, and I guess they thought that a change of scenery would do Vlad some good. The Lakers are one of the deepest teams in the league, maybe all Vlad needs is some playing time and his game will improve.

Morrison on the other hand, was given plenty of opportunities. He's started the past 3 games or so, and only scored 14 points in those 3 games. He shoots a terrible percentage, can't defend, can't rebound, can't do anything. He also got a good amount of minutes his rookie year, and was very inefficient. Cartier Martin. a D-Leaguer, was outplaying Morrison and getting his minutes. That says a lot of how bad he is.

GreatMustachio1
02-08-2009, 04:22 AM
to all the Lakers fans that keep saying how bad the Bobcats are, please take a look at your record against them. Do not hate on a team that you can not beat.

DerekRE_3
02-08-2009, 04:26 AM
to all the Lakers fans that keep saying how bad the Bobcats are, please take a look at your record against them. Do not hate on a team that you can not beat.

Well, I think it's more of a matchup thing but yeah. The Cats aren't that bad, Larry Brown had them playing great ball until Gerald Wallace got hurt. He's the leader of the team, their best player offensively and defensively, so losing him hurts.

xxepo
02-08-2009, 05:10 AM
hahaha i love laker fans so honest .... i think lakers got the better deal , allot more potential in the morisson plus radmanovic was not being used as much ...he is a serbian but a real serbian redneck hahaha seljak in serbian terms hahaha

MickeyMgl
02-08-2009, 05:10 AM
Adam Morrison may be lazy, but Vlad Rad is a space cadet. He's a cancer and Morrison has upside. Plus, Shannon Brown brings some athleticism to the bench that they lost when Ariza left.

Radmanovic is at times a space cadet, and somewhat flaky, but one thing he has not been is a cancer. The guy has kept a good attitude about his playing time throughout.

And where did Ariza go?

Living Legend
02-08-2009, 05:13 AM
All the Cats wanted from Morrison was his ability to hit outside shots, and he couldn't even do that. If Vlad can come in and hit some 3's (which he has shown he can do, 44% from 3) then they will be happy.

The Cats are desperate for bench help, and I guess they thought that a change of scenery would do Vlad some good. The Lakers are one of the deepest teams in the league, maybe all Vlad needs is some playing time and his game will improve.

Morrison on the other hand, was given plenty of opportunities. He's started the past 3 games or so, and only scored 14 points in those 3 games. He shoots a terrible percentage, can't defend, can't rebound, can't do anything. He also got a good amount of minutes his rookie year, and was very inefficient. Cartier Martin. a D-Leaguer, was outplaying Morrison and getting his minutes. That says a lot of how bad he is.

I feel that Morrison will blossom as a Laker.

Vlad rad was called the space cadet by Phil Jackson.

I still can't believe we got that much talent ( Morrison) and athleticism (Brown) for the Space Cadet.

wow, I seriously can't wait for Mo's first game, 10+ pts i'm calling it.

MickeyMgl
02-08-2009, 05:16 AM
You obviously don't know your basketball from a management perspective. Vlade was barely playing and has frequent lapses on defense. The reason for this trade was to free up the 6.5 million he was going to be paid next season (6.9 million the following season on a player option). Mitch has something else up his sleeve. There is a reason why he is freeing up cap space......
Shaq? Stoudemire? Miller? We'll see before Feb.19th most likely.
They dumped that crummy contract, plus, Morrison will be a free agent this summer. So, how exactly did the Laker's get nailed on that one?

I'm pretty sure what you see is what you get. This IS the move. Radmanovic is a better player than Morrison right now at BOTH ends of the floor, but it's a sound move financially.

LakersOrNothing
02-08-2009, 05:34 AM
Vlad is treated like Odom. When he does good, all the Lakers fans are on his nuts. When he does bad, there are 189239 post about how crappy he is, same as Odom. There's not much to add to the fire, since most the post in this thread already has what I wanted to say.

Bottom line for me is, Vlad had his share, he tried his best as a Lakers but just couldn't make the cut. I rather have him off the team then to watch his talent get wasted on the bench. Morrison/Brown, on the other hand, is already expected to be on the bench, so it won't be any different for them..

Welcome Morrison and Brown, hope you guys are ready!
Goodluck Vlad, hope you do good over there. :clap:

santana88
02-08-2009, 06:03 AM
great trade for us..... we pay morrison whos contract is over end of the yr.. and the other only less then a million.... one will be shooting 3s as a spot pshooter and the tpther can play D but this may be a sighn of a bigger move if not we load our worst contract away for a guy who was not playing much

Wilson
02-08-2009, 06:10 AM
I just read about this on ESPN.com. Seems like a win for the Lakers, just because Morrison's deal expires before Vlads (assuming Vlad uses that player option on his contract to stay with the 'Cats).

It seems like both players have the same problems: struggling shot and bad defense. So this made me laugh:


Morrison and Brown were never a good fit. Morrison's defensive deficiencies didn't mesh with Brown's style, and Morrison had failed to hit shots consistently, struggling in a starting role the past four games after small forward Gerald Wallace suffered a partially collapsed lung and a broken rib against the Lakers on Jan. 27.

If you ever wanted to watch Larry Brown kill someone, this is your lucky day.

Welcome to LA Adam Morrison and Shannon Brown, best of luck to you :up:

isuk
02-08-2009, 06:45 AM
The Lakers did this because one Morrison has the potential to be good and we just cleared some money to real in a bigger fish. Remember who is in the front office of the Lakers and who is in the front office of the Bobcats.

MickeyMgl
02-08-2009, 07:00 AM
Goodluck Vlad, hope you do good over there. :clap:

So do I. I have no beef with him. He seems like a good guy.

MickeyMgl
02-08-2009, 07:05 AM
I just read about this on ESPN.com. Seems like a win for the Lakers, just because Morrison's deal expires before Vlads (assuming Vlad uses that player option on his contract to stay with the 'Cats).

It seems like both players have the same problems: struggling shot and bad defense. So this made me laugh:



If you ever wanted to watch Larry Brown kill someone, this is your lucky day.


I don't think so. Morrison-for-Radmanovic is an upgrade defensively for the Bobcats. Morrison is THAT bad. Plus, Radmanovic is one of the top perimeter shooters in the league.

I'm not against the trade, but don't kid yourself. On the court, it's a trade down. MAYBE Morrison finds his game here next season, but for now, the Bobcats are getting the better player at both ends of the court.

This trade was to save money, and I'm totally OK with that.

MickeyMgl
02-08-2009, 07:06 AM
The Lakers did this because one Morrison has the potential to be good and we just cleared some money to real in a bigger fish. Remember who is in the front office of the Lakers and who is in the front office of the Bobcats.

The bigger fish are already on the team - Odom and Ariza.

Wilson
02-08-2009, 07:26 AM
I don't think so. Morrison-for-Radmanovic is an upgrade defensively for the Bobcats. Morrison is THAT bad. Plus, Radmanovic is one of the top perimeter shooters in the league.

I'm not against the trade, but don't kid yourself. On the court, it's a trade down. MAYBE Morrison finds his game here next season, but for now, the Bobcats are getting the better player at both ends of the court.

This trade was to save money, and I'm totally OK with that.

Vlad is not a good player, in any sense. His shot hasn't been falling this season, and his defense is indescribably bad. He wanders around, doesn't put his hand up when his man is shooting, he doesn't box out, and he doesn't attack rebounds.

Occasionally he'll try to put a shooter off, but all he does is go flying through the air, so the offensive player either dribbles around him, or draws the foul.

Morrison may be bad, but saying Vlad is better is like saying losing a leg is better than losing an arm. There's not really much in it.

king4day
02-08-2009, 01:37 PM
I'm pretty sure what you see is what you get. This IS the move. Radmanovic is a better player than Morrison right now at BOTH ends of the floor, but it's a sound move financially.

This is the best quote in the thread. I agree 100%

homestarunner93
02-08-2009, 01:47 PM
I feel that Morrison will blossom as a Laker.

Vlad rad was called the space cadet by Phil Jackson.

I still can't believe we got that much talent ( Morrison) and athleticism (Brown) for the Space Cadet.

wow, I seriously can't wait for Mo's first game, 10+ pts i'm calling it.

You're kidding yourself if you believe that. Morrison has NO TALENT. People should stop saying he has potential, because he doesn't. He's not going to have 10+ points. I'd say the over/under is at 2.

shanefitzgerald
02-08-2009, 01:49 PM
great trade for lakers he has potential

NBAdyNASTY
02-08-2009, 02:03 PM
This is the best quote in the thread. I agree 100%

and you probably thought the Shaq trade was genius. Kerr is the biggest problem the Suns have right now. Clearing the cap space on this Vlade trade was IMO the primary reason, but you CAN'T rule out the possibility of acquiring someone else.

x_notorious
02-08-2009, 02:09 PM
INDEPENDENCE, Ohio – He wore Vans for practice.

That was Vladimir Radmanovic’s last act as a Laker before he was traded Saturday to the Charlotte Bobcats in primarily a payroll-paring move for the future. The Lakers acquired small forward Adam Morrison, a bust to this point as the third pick in the 2006 draft, and shooting guard Shannon Brown.

In his final Lakers practice on Friday, Radmanovic didn’t wear basketball shoes. He wore Vans – the low-top, slip-on kind of sneakers favored by skateboarders and, yes, snowboarders.

Seriously.

Or not seriously … because what undermined Radmanovic, 28, in every attempt to make his mark as a Laker was a lack of seriousness about his profession. That’s why the Lakers were thrilled to unload his contract to spend more freely this offseason in trying to re-sign Trevor Ariza.

Lamar Odom, also a free agent, could benefit, too, although Odom would still need to accept a significant pay cut to return to a luxury-taxed club already committed to massive future salaries for Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.

The trade is an immediate victory for the Lakers just by shedding the next two years and $13.4 million due Radmanovic. If Morrison, 24, can’t begin to fulfill his potential in the next one-plus seasons, he just drops off the books.

But the goal here was accomplished. Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak even let it slip with a reference to being “stuck with players who didn’t play and were highly paid.”

“To get back two players who are developing and do have upside,” Kupchak said, “I think that makes it that much more attractive.”

It’s not dissimilar to Kupchak’s trade last season for Ariza, whose sudden flowering only added to a landscape made greener by dumping Brian Cook’s longterm contract on Orlando. It’s possible that Morrison can also ascend with the Lakers and create a pleasant problem to have in 2010.

Bryant had more pressing concerns Saturday at the Cleveland Cavaliers’ practice facility, preparing for a marquee matchup against LeBron James, but Bryant offered this comment about Morrison’s past failures:

“All that doesn’t matter, though. You come in this system, with the group of guys that we have here, and we tend to bring out the best in guys."

It didn’t happen for Kwame Brown, Michael Jordan’s frog pick in Washington whom Phil Jackson couldn’t transform into a Lakers prince. On this one, Jackson didn’t even consult with Jordan about the player he made his first draftee as Bobcats managing partner.

Morrison tore his anterior cruciate ligament on Oct. 20, 2007, in an exhibition game at Staples Center and has been unable to translate performances from practices to games even after cutting his trademark long hair before this season.

“That injury takes more than a year (to recover),” Kupchak said. “So we think he would benefit from a situation that has less pressure.”

Brown, 23, has a $797,000 expiring contract for this season. Unlikely as it is for him – or Morrison, for that matter – to crack Jackson’s rotation this season, the 6-foot-4 Brown is an athletic defender.

“There is an opportunity for both players, but we don’t expect either player to make a contribution right away,” Kupchak said.

For now, this trade is all about dumping Radmanovic, who will be remembered most for two misadventures with the Lakers: He violated his contract – and then lied about it before coming clean – by going snowboarding for the first time over the 2007 All-Star weekend and separating his shooting shoulder.

(He still has a bizarre misalignment in his frame – one shoulder far higher than the other – from the incident, for which the Lakers fined him $500,000 but would’ve been better off voiding his contract.)

Then last June, Radmanovic consistently failed to stay in front of Boston’s Paul Pierce, the eventual NBA Finals MVP.

This season, Radmanovic fell behind Ariza and Luke Walton at small forward, where Bryant often shifts to play anyway. Radmanovic now gets a chance to make a lot of shots for a Charlotte team trying to make the playoffs under first-year coach Larry Brown.

Kupchak said he’s basically not interested in making another trade before the Feb. 20 deadline, believing Andrew Bynum will return this season and considering Chris Mihm and DJ Mbenga viable in-house options at center.

Kupchak has done enough. This is a strong, fiscally responsible move – not everything can be a Gasol-sized splash – that states a proper commitment to Ariza.

The Lakers didn’t get one full expiring contract for Radmanovic, but they came close. And if there is a Kwame Brown clown in this deal, just know that it’s not Morrison. The Lakers’ championship pursuit did not need Radmanovic, a slacker from head to toe.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/lakers-radmanovic-morrison-2302401-kupchak-brown

lakers4sho
02-08-2009, 02:45 PM
Radmanovic doesn't work hard to improve his game. He has no work ethic whatsoever. That post by x_notorious above pretty much sums it up.

stevefrancis
02-08-2009, 03:28 PM
yea i don't get why the bobcats did this? they get a worse contract and get a player who is more lazy than eddy curry. they could have gotten a lot better offers for morrison because teams wouldn't mind taking a chance on him because of his expiring contract.

NYMetros
02-08-2009, 03:29 PM
yea i don't get why the bobcats did this? they get a worse contract and get a player who is more lazy than eddy curry. they could have gotten a lot better offers for morrison because teams wouldn't mind taking a chance on him because of his expiring contract.

Morrison was in coach Brown's dog house. Everyone hated the trade where the Bobcats gave up Jason Richardson for Bell and Diaw, so I will wait to see how this pans out. So far I like what MJ has done with that team.

homestarunner93
02-08-2009, 04:31 PM
Morrison was in coach Brown's dog house. Everyone hated the trade where the Bobcats gave up Jason Richardson for Bell and Diaw, so I will wait to see how this pans out. So far I like what MJ has done with that team.

Everyone except Derek and homestarunner. :D

NERD
02-08-2009, 04:37 PM
Lakers are the winners here

Chronz
02-08-2009, 04:38 PM
If a team acquires a player in a trade, they are allowed to trade that player straight-up for another individual player immediately. However, if they wish to package that player with another and make a trade, the team must wait 60 days before doing so

They can't put him in a package with anyone, they can trade him straight up.

Yea thats how I understand it, I never heard of anyone having to wait 60 days if its just the 1 player, however Im pretty sure they can trade that 1 player for multiple players.

homestarunner93
02-08-2009, 04:39 PM
Yea thats how I understand it, I never heard of anyone having to wait 60 days if its just the 1 player, however Im pretty sure they can trade that 1 player for multiple players.

What team would give up multiple players for Morrison? :laugh:

Kakaroach
02-08-2009, 04:48 PM
You're kidding yourself if you believe that. Morrison has NO TALENT. People should stop saying he has potential, because he doesn't. He's not going to have 10+ points. I'd say the over/under is at 2. Your just saying that because your an angry Bobcats fan who drafted a bust. Morrison won't average 10 PPG but that doesn't mean that he's a usless player. BTW, he has immense potential. If he could get his passion back from Gonzaga and actually elevate when he shoots, he's always a threat.

Living Legend
02-08-2009, 04:52 PM
You're kidding yourself if you believe that. Morrison has NO TALENT. People should stop saying he has potential, because he doesn't. He's not going to have 10+ points. I'd say the over/under is at 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRx0oUX-fns

LoL

U are so wrong.

lakersrock
02-08-2009, 05:06 PM
It took Redick awhile to become useful and he wasn't expected to be the go to guy. When Morrison's shoulder is totally back to normal, I think he'll be just fine being in a group. Instead of shouldering the entire load, he can just come in and help out. I think the Bobcats are gonna look dumb on this one.

eric1501
02-08-2009, 06:30 PM
Morrison>Vlad by far. Just for the face that Vlad has been in the league for awhile and hasn't proved a damn thing besides hitting a few shots here and there. Morrison has AT LEAST potential.

jrands
02-08-2009, 07:39 PM
Morrison>Vlad by far. Just for the face that Vlad has been in the league for awhile and hasn't proved a damn thing besides hitting a few shots here and there. Morrison has AT LEAST potential.

Morrison in his rookie year averaged 12 pts a game. Not too bad, though his FG% was atrocious. However, this is basically his second year as he's coming off of the major knee injury last year.