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DenButsu
01-23-2009, 05:26 AM
Report: Gillibrand To Get Hillary's Senate Seat

The Albany Times Union and other outlets are reporting that New York Gov. David Paterson will appoint upstate Congresswoman Kirsten Gillibrand to Hillary Clinton's former Senate seat.

Gillibrand was first elected in 2006 in a narrow win against incumbent Republican Rep. John Sweeney, then won by a landslide in 2008 against wealthy businessman Sandy Treadwell. Gillibrand proved to be a prolific fundraiser herself in that race, spending over $4 million.

So Paterson gets to a) court women voters, b) court upstate voters, and c) recruit a candidate who can bring in a lot of money in case of a tough race.

It makes sense.tpm (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/01/report-gillibrand-to-get-hillarys-senate-seat.php)

SmthBluCitrus
01-23-2009, 09:54 AM
Cool. I think it's a good pick. The seat gets to remain female and still not Caroline.

behindmydesk
01-23-2009, 09:59 AM
What happened to AG Cuamo?

SmthBluCitrus
01-23-2009, 10:03 AM
Paterson and Cuomo don't like each other very much.

Andrew Cuomo's Problem (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2009/01/andrew_cuomos_problem.html?hpid=opinionsbox1)

behindmydesk
01-23-2009, 10:06 AM
Paterson and Cuomo don't like each other very much.

Andrew Cuomo's Problem (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2009/01/andrew_cuomos_problem.html?hpid=opinionsbox1)

I thought it was hinging on Cuomo finding a replacement.

SmthBluCitrus
01-23-2009, 10:08 AM
I don't think Cuomo got to name his replacement ...


Guess who picks the new state AG if Paterson picks Cuomo? The state Assembly and its leader, the irascible and politically irritating Sheldon Silver. After Alan Hevesi was forced to resign the position of state comptroller in December 2006, Silver defied the preferences of then-Gov. Eliot Spitzer and got the Assembly to hand the post to Assemblymember Thomas DiNapoli (D-Nassau County). I'd be very surprised if Paterson would want to create a new vacancy outside of his control to fill one that's within his control.

ari1013
01-23-2009, 10:33 AM
Gillibrand will be alright. She's from the district north of my old home district and she took out a long time GOP incumbant 2 years ago. She was reelected in a landslide this year -- in a relatively Republican district.

My friends in NY will be happy with this one.

Ironically, when Paterson was calling around, one of the people he called was Edgar Bronfman. And my friend Jason who works, in part, for the Bronfmans had suggested to Edgar that he recommend Gillibrand to Paterson. Edgar's response, "who the heck is that?"

:)

SmthBluCitrus
01-23-2009, 10:36 AM
:laugh2:

The only things that I see against this move are that she'll be a tough sell statewide in 2010 -- she may lose in the primary. And, it will be tough for the Democratic Party to hold her now vacated House seat.

blenderboy5
01-23-2009, 10:40 AM
Yeah agreed. Caroline would have had an easier time running in 2010 and then again in 2012. Gonna be hard for Gillibrand to raise all that cash imo.

ari1013
01-23-2009, 01:30 PM
:laugh2:

The only things that I see against this move are that she'll be a tough sell statewide in 2010 -- she may lose in the primary. And, it will be tough for the Democratic Party to hold her now vacated House seat.
I don't know. If she can win in Clifton Park, NY, she can definitely win statewide. And the Democratic machine in Albany will support that idea.

SmthBluCitrus
01-23-2009, 01:36 PM
I suppose I don't know enough about New York politics to make a reasoned assumption. But, it's going to cost a lot of money to get her re-elected in 2010 -- and possibly again in '12.

yboord028
01-23-2009, 01:45 PM
While I preferred Cuomo, I definitely did not want Caroline Kennedy what in general would she do for New York? I never liked her, but thats also because I believe the first time she only got elected because Sweeney basically ****ed himself over and as well. But the resounding victory up here in a primarily republican district has proved people like her.

Treadwell seriously campaigned for a year and gave up at the end so she is popular. I like though that she will bring the upstate of New York into the senate, Schumer somewhat does but not really and Hillary didn't at all.

edit: On the note of Cuomo, I think hes better as the AG but I would love to see what he could do at another level. He has done alot in the little time he has been the AG in New York.

Drucifer
01-23-2009, 02:17 PM
She sure can talk. The Gov, had to tell her to cut it short. Well, if he wasn't late.

Anyway, she sounded OK. Now to see if she can wing it.

ari1013
01-23-2009, 03:07 PM
While I preferred Cuomo, I definitely did not want Caroline Kennedy what in general would she do for New York? I never liked her, but thats also because I believe the first time she only got elected because Sweeney basically ****ed himself over and as well. But the resounding victory up here in a primarily republican district has proved people like her.

Treadwell seriously campaigned for a year and gave up at the end so she is popular. I like though that she will bring the upstate of New York into the senate, Schumer somewhat does but not really and Hillary didn't at all.

edit: On the note of Cuomo, I think hes better as the AG but I would love to see what he could do at another level. He has done alot in the little time he has been the AG in New York.
Exactly. As I said, if she can win in Clifton Park, there's no reason why NY as a whole won't like her.

blenderboy5
01-23-2009, 03:10 PM
Exactly. As I said, if she can win in Clifton Park, there's no reason why NY as a whole won't like her.

It's gonna be about money not statewide appeal. And outside of Kennedy, it's gonna be really hard for someone to fund back to back statewide elections. Especially when in 2010 Chuck Schumer is also up for re-election, so the Democratic Party will be donating to both campaigns... and probably giving more to Schumer.

yboord028
01-23-2009, 03:26 PM
Eh I don't think Schumer will be that hard to re-elect, I mean hes the third in line democrat in the Senate. Hes been a senator in New York since 1999, I think they'll have the money for her.

Also as a point for conservatives to vote for her (well some), she voted against the bailout a big plus for some. She's somewhat fiscally conservative more than other democrats, so if she gets out enough in New York the next year she could gain popularity.

yaowowrocket11
01-23-2009, 03:57 PM
Gillibrand's appointment today (http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/POLITICS/01/23/gillibrand.profile/art.gillibrand.cnn.jpg)

Nice tie, Patterson!

ari1013
01-23-2009, 05:31 PM
It's gonna be about money not statewide appeal. And outside of Kennedy, it's gonna be really hard for someone to fund back to back statewide elections. Especially when in 2010 Chuck Schumer is also up for re-election, so the Democratic Party will be donating to both campaigns... and probably giving more to Schumer.
Why would they have to fund Schumer at all? And even then, why give him more than her?

Nobody in their right mind would run against Schumer. The GOP has no shot at that seat.

Gillibrand outraised her opponent in the second-most conservative district in NY two cycles in a row. Trust me when I say it's not going to be a problem for her.

King might put up a good fight, but he's going to fall short. Upstaters will definitely support her, and aside from King's district, everyone downstate will vote party-line.

ari1013
01-23-2009, 05:31 PM
Gillibrand's appointment today (http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/POLITICS/01/23/gillibrand.profile/art.gillibrand.cnn.jpg)

Nice tie, Patterson!
You know he's blind, right?

ari1013
01-23-2009, 05:33 PM
Eh I don't think Schumer will be that hard to re-elect, I mean hes the third in line democrat in the Senate. Hes been a senator in New York since 1999, I think they'll have the money for her.

Also as a point for conservatives to vote for her (well some), she voted against the bailout a big plus for some. She's somewhat fiscally conservative more than other democrats, so if she gets out enough in New York the next year she could gain popularity.
Yeah she'll face a bigger battle in her primary than against the GOP. She's far more conservative than the average political NY Dem.

behindmydesk
01-23-2009, 05:54 PM
You know he's blind, right?

has to be to wear that.

ari1013
01-23-2009, 07:43 PM
has to be to wear that.

:rimshot: