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thesparky33
01-20-2009, 02:48 PM
-Game 40-

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Date: Tuesday, January 20th
Time: 8:00 PM, CT
Location: Energy Solutions Arena, SLC, UT
Local TV: FSN North (League Pass has free trial this week)
Radio: KFAN 1130 AM
Internet Feed: www.channelsurfing.net



Projected Starting Lineups and Stats (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/depth)

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PG...........SG..........SF..........PF........... C
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TELFAIR---FOYE---GOMES---SMITH---JEFFERSON



Player G PPG RPG APG
Jefferson, A. 37 22.2 10.4 1.6
Foye, R. 37 15.7 3.4 4.8
Gomes, R. 37 11.0 4.2 1.7
Miller, M. 28 9.6 5.7 3.3
McCants, R. 30 9.6 1.8 1.0
Smith, C. 37 8.9 3.5 1.3
Love, K. 37 8.3 8.2 1.2
Telfair, S. 32 7.2 1.8 3.9
Brewer, C. 15 6.2 3.3 1.7
Carney, R. 27 4.8 1.4 0.3
Ollie, K. 24 4.6 1.5 2.1
Cardinal, B. 21 1.5 1.1 0.9
Collins, J. 12 1.4 1.9 0.7
Madsen, M. 9 0.4 1.3 0.3
Booth, C. 1 0.0 1.0 0.0


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PG...........SG..........SF..........PF........... C
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WILLIAMS---BREWER---MILES---MILLSAP---OKUR



Player G PPG RPG APG
Boozer, C. 12 20.5 11.7 2.7
Okur, M. 33 17.8 8.5 1.8
Williams, D. 28 16.4 2.6 9.9
Millsap, P. 35 15.0 9.3 2.0
Kirilenko, A. 37 12.9 5.9 3.2
Brewer, R. 40 12.7 3.3 2.3
Miles, C. 38 9.7 2.3 1.7
Korver, K. 37 8.2 2.6 1.6
Price, R. 32 5.3 1.8 2.8
Koufos, K. 35 5.3 3.3 0.5
Harpring, M. 27 4.3 1.7 0.4
Almond, M. 21 4.1 1.7 0.3
Knight, B. 35 3.2 1.5 3.3
Fesenko, K. 10 2.7 2.6 0.3
Collins, J. 7 0.6 1.0 0.1
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GOGOGOMEZ08
01-20-2009, 03:44 PM
kinda scared about this matchup, but i think it will be a close game. Wolves by 4.

Sport
01-20-2009, 04:00 PM
Have to contain Millsap and I think we win.

Should be a good game, though.

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 05:15 PM
This will be a very difficult game because the Jazz our usually unstoppable at home. I'm not sure of their record this year but last year they were almost unbeatable. This should give us an idea of how much we've improved because if we can win a tough game on the road and sweep a road trip then that would be great confidence to continue to build on.

For us to win this game we need Foye to continue to play well and Big AL to play well on offense and defense. Boozer is out but Milsap has been tearing it up so it should be a fun game to watch. I have the Wolves 106 to 103

ryguy2k7
01-20-2009, 06:02 PM
I say we win this if Foye lights them up and Al contributes 20 and 10 again.

Also, we need a player like Gomes/Carney/Love to have a really good game. They are always the deciding factors (maybe Craig Smith too)

cwilson21
01-20-2009, 06:11 PM
Why not? We win again.

Hawkeye15
01-20-2009, 07:45 PM
this will be a very tough one. Love, Jefferson, and Smith must recognize Okur's shooting ability, and we have to hope Williams isn't hitting jumpers. Foye, Gomes, and Jefferson all need big night, and Love needs to dominate the boards while in the game.

tcman2007
01-20-2009, 09:06 PM
I think the Wolves will win tonight.

WSU Tony
01-20-2009, 09:10 PM
I honestly feel it's a 50/50 split tonght. Utah is the better team but we've been playing so well lately. Stats vs emotions...... I CAN'T CHOOSE!

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:15 PM
wow 10 to 0 Utah

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:16 PM
12-0 Jazz not good at all

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:20 PM
alright we scored 12 to 2

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:22 PM
18 to 4 Jazz

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:23 PM
A 3 by Gomes and a and 1 By Telfair cuts the lead to 20 to 12

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:24 PM
how many times are the Jazz going to travel

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:28 PM
Wow were playing like Crap down 26 to 12 absolutely no defense so far. We look a little flat.

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:32 PM
great pass Miller down by 8

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:32 PM
Oh my god miller hit a 3

WSU Tony
01-20-2009, 10:33 PM
Did you see his face? lol.

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:36 PM
Well as bad as we played in the 1st were only down by 7.

Telfair 7 pts to lead us

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:36 PM
hopefully he gets in a groove.

jwin2005
01-20-2009, 10:38 PM
CJ Miles! That guy is a freak athlete I like him.

Wolves lose by 15

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:40 PM
Miller is a fabulous passer

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:43 PM
jeez call a foul

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:47 PM
Miller is the best passer on the team

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:47 PM
Mike Miller 6 ft 8 point guard

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:49 PM
Mchale Technical foul

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:50 PM
Were right back in it

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:53 PM
why are we double teaming Kyle Korver.

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:56 PM
Too many layups

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 10:59 PM
Bassy playing well

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:02 PM
good end to the half only down 9 pending Utah free throws. Why would you foul if you don't have a foul to give.

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:04 PM
we did have a foul to give

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:05 PM
58 to 49 Utah at the half.
Big AL 14 pts
KLove 10 pts
Bassy 9 pts and 4 assists
FOYE 6 pts

howiend
01-20-2009, 11:08 PM
Wolves were resilient. Need a better defense effort and a better 2nd half by Foye and one other shooter.

Sport
01-20-2009, 11:11 PM
I like that Love is contributing.

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:25 PM
That is not a foul bs

Mauersota
01-20-2009, 11:25 PM
Games like this make me wish we would of just kept Chalmers and let Telfair walk.

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:26 PM
Wow the refs have been awful no calls for the wolves only on the Wolves. Touch fouls being called on us when they hammer us no calls.

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:30 PM
Big 3 by BASSY only down 7

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:31 PM
Bassy 12 pts and 5 assists

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:35 PM
Down by 5 playing better D

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:35 PM
strong move Rhino

Mauersota
01-20-2009, 11:35 PM
For how bad were playing I'm surprised where only down by a shot.

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:36 PM
From down 14 to 3

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:37 PM
For how bad were playing I'm surprised where only down by a shot.

I know what you mean but we are playing better in the 3rd

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:39 PM
BIG AL heating up

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:39 PM
come on Gomes finish

Mauersota
01-20-2009, 11:40 PM
BIG AL heating up

On the offensive end but not the defensive end.

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:40 PM
Gomes is playing with a lot of energy

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:41 PM
that was an offensive foul

Mauersota
01-20-2009, 11:42 PM
Bassy BLOCKED

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:43 PM
good shot Love

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:44 PM
Miller blocks a lot of shots

Mauersota
01-20-2009, 11:45 PM
Bassy missing the WIDE open 3

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:45 PM
BASSY hits again

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:46 PM
Cardinal nice

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:47 PM
down by 3 headed to the 4th.

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:47 PM
why you hating Bassy Maur

Mauersota
01-20-2009, 11:49 PM
why you hating Bassy Maur

I'm not a telfair fan.

IowaAJ
01-20-2009, 11:59 PM
down by 5

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:00 AM
Miller wow

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:00 AM
good drive Miller

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:00 AM
make free throws

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:02 AM
Rebound

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:02 AM
It is the little things that are screwing us over.

How come Foye isn't getting ANY plays run for him from what I've seen.

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:03 AM
down by 8 with 6:47 to go

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:04 AM
it would be nice if Foye could take over

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:05 AM
Come on Love don't do that, Back to back good plays by Gomes

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:06 AM
Like that?

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:06 AM
there we go down 6 come on D

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:07 AM
AND Foye hits the 3

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:07 AM
Down 4

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:07 AM
4th Quarter Foye

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:08 AM
WE are making the plays can we keep it up

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:09 AM
We have gotten the support in scoring we needed to have a shot at winning now can we pull it off.

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:10 AM
great D

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:11 AM
I'm just going to say it Foye is a better player the Al (assuming this is more then just a VERY hot streak). Al is more valuable but Foye is better.

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:12 AM
down by 4

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:13 AM
Good drive draws Foul

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:13 AM
Make your free throws

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:14 AM
We had a chance didn't make free throws and had 3 straight possisions we could of taken the lead but it didn't happen and now down by 7

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:14 AM
No comment on my comment AJ?

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:14 AM
I HATE Memet OkUr

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:15 AM
I'm just going to say it Foye is a better player the Al (assuming this is more then just a VERY hot streak). Al is more valuable but Foye is better.

I don't know it is tough to say but Foye has been clutch lately.

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:16 AM
ball game

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:17 AM
BIG AL short just not our night

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:18 AM
Down by 10 game over, technical on Williams

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:18 AM
need a 3 to have a chance

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:19 AM
Gomes a 3 down by 4

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:20 AM
down 6 need a 3 and some help

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:21 AM
Wish Miller would of taken a 3

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:21 AM
down by 4 15 seconds

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:22 AM
yeah but we still got a quick basket

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:23 AM
Were not really a team able to make a comeback like this because we never really get steals.

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:23 AM
down 6 same situation

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:24 AM
yeah good point plus I think Utah has missed 1 free throw tonight

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:24 AM
Foye is clutch *****es

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:24 AM
Just think if Miller and Foye make there free throws we would of been down 2 with the ball

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:25 AM
down by 3 come on DWILL do us a favor

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:26 AM
Meh take the loss increase the ping pong balls.

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:26 AM
Wolves come up short free throws was the difference Jazz 11 of 13 in the fourth Wolves were 2 of 7 make your free throws we win this game.

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:28 AM
They were 11-16 on FA which isn't a horrible % but when the other team is 27-29...

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:30 AM
On the post game they say the bench didn't step up well it is kind of hard to step up when 4 starters get 35+ minutes.

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:30 AM
WE played well enough to win and had the supporting cast around BIG AL to get it done but we just couldn't get the lead. This one hurts because I think we could of won this game but UTAH made the plays down the stretch but we never stopped fighting and I really like the way we play. MCHALE has done a fantastic job as our head coach.

BIG AL 25 pts and 8 rebounds
Gomes 19 pts and 5 rebounds
Telfair 17pts and 9 assists
Foye 19 pts (9 pts 4th)
LOVE 12 pts and 9 rebounds

PurpleJesus
01-21-2009, 12:30 AM
we did what we were supposed to do at towards the end of the game, we gave jefferson the ball, but he didnt answer the call, more often than not, he will...not tonight though. Hitting some free throws wouldnt have hurt either.

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:31 AM
Free throws in the 4th killed us though 2 for 7

PurpleJesus
01-21-2009, 12:31 AM
Foye hhad 19 pts? that was a real quiet 19!

t-w0lves4ever
01-21-2009, 12:31 AM
Not hitting the Free Throws ruined the opportunity to win the game. ****!

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:31 AM
Miller missed a pair and Foye missed a pair I think that was the game right there

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:32 AM
I think Big Al is the reason we lost this one IMO. 13-26 for FG's is a little absurd and his defense SUCKED

tcman2007
01-21-2009, 12:33 AM
Foye hhad 19 pts? that was a real quiet 19!

Man, that game was horse-****. We played great, but we got no respect from the refs. No way the free-throws should be that unbalanced between teams. I don't know how many times we went to the hoop and didn't get the call.

PurpleJesus
01-21-2009, 12:33 AM
I think Big Al is the reason we lost this one IMO. 13-26 for FG's is a little absurd and his defense SUCKED

his defense was definetly bad, usually 50% isnt bad, but he was terrible in the fourth.

t-w0lves4ever
01-21-2009, 12:33 AM
Im so pissed honestly. This game was ours! Miami should have won. Dallas...uugh yeah.

WE SHOULD BE ON A KILLER STREAK RIGHT NOW!

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:34 AM
HE didn't have his best game but he is our star player and we have to go to him down the stretch this time it didn't work but most the time it does.

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:34 AM
his defense was definetly bad, usually 50% isnt bad, but he was terrible in the fourth.

BUT 26 attempts? Everyone calls Mayo a ball hog at 18 shots a game and Al takes 26??


Im so pissed honestly. This game was ours! Miami should have won. Dallas...uugh yeah.

WE SHOULD BE ON A KILLER STREAK RIGHT NOW!

Come up with a new user name idiot otherwise you'll keep getting banned.

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:35 AM
HE didn't have his best game but he is our star player and we have to go to him down the stretch this time it didn't work but most the time it does.

We don't have to, Foye is more clutch then Al so why do we HAVE to go to Al.

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:36 AM
Man, that game was horse-****. We played great, but we got no respect from the refs. No way the free-throws should be that unbalanced between teams. I don't know how many times we went to the hoop and didn't get the call.

I agree there were some calls that we didn't get. I wouldn't say we got ripped off but I agree the refs did not respect us.

t-w0lves4ever
01-21-2009, 12:36 AM
BUT 26 attempts? Everyone calls Mayo a ball hog at 18 shots a game and Al takes 26??



Come up with a new user name idiot otherwise you'll keep getting banned.

You call the twolves founder of PSD an Idiot? HOW DARE YOU!

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:38 AM
You call the twolves founder of PSD an Idiot? HOW DARE YOU!

If you just want to keep getting banned you either A) Have a grudge B) Stupid/insane C) Enjoy being banned. I'll take B

cwilson21
01-21-2009, 12:38 AM
We were perfect from the strike going into the 4th quarter but then missed 5 in a row. Somebody missed the first, Miller barely made it to the rim on another 2 (seriously WTF), and Foye missed 2. Factor in Jefferson failing to get the bucket in the rim just once in 3 chances when the score was 97-96 Jazz and then forgetting where the **** Okur was on the floor (the 3-point line about half the time) during defense. He needs to do some serious work on his D and needs to be aware of where his man is when playing man-to-man. I thought Foye was our 4th quarter guy but we didn't go to him at all in the 4th which is usually the quarter that he goes off on. Get the ball to Foye in the fourth. Jefferson was getting double teamed too but instead of passing out and setting up another play/chance to work his man, he just did some moves and tried that little one-hand push shot of his over Okur. Should've won but turnovers, ineptitude on defense in the 4th quarter and when the deficit was only 1, and poor free throw shooting doomed us. All 3 games we have lost since and including the Mavericks game could've and should've been ours but we just failed down the stretch in those games. We would be on about an 11-gamer right now.

t-w0lves4ever
01-21-2009, 12:40 AM
If you just want to keep getting banned you either A) Have a grudge B) Stupid/insane C) Enjoy being banned. I'll take B

I just like to mess around, and talk to my buds in here. :) If im banned im banned oh well.

WSU Tony
01-21-2009, 12:40 AM
I give it 2 minutes. Mark my words.

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:42 AM
I give it 2 minutes. Mark my words.

Gee I wonder why a TM would say something like that.

IowaAJ
01-21-2009, 12:43 AM
We were perfect from the strike going into the 4th quarter but then missed 5 in a row. Somebody missed the first, Miller barely made it to the rim on another 2 (seriously WTF), and Foye missed 2. Factor in Jefferson failing to get the bucket in the rim just once in 3 chances when the score was 97-96 Jazz and then forgetting where the **** Okur was on the floor (the 3-point line about half the time) during defense. He needs to do some serious work on his D and needs to be aware of where his man is when playing man-to-man. I thought Foye was our 4th quarter guy but we didn't go to him at all in the 4th which is usually the quarter that he goes off on. Jefferson was getting double teamed too but instead of passing out and setting up another play/chance to work his man, he just did some moves and tried that little one-hand push shot of his over Okur. Should've won but turnovers, ineptitude on defense in the 4th quarter and when the deficit was only 1, and poor free throw shooting doomed us.


Great post CWILSON thats exactly what I thought although when you are used to guarding in the post it is harder to guard a guy who likes to play on the perimeter. I think we should of put Gomes on him and put Jefferson on Millsap because Gomes is used to guarding people on the perimeter.

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:47 AM
Thats because you reported me.

Ratting out a twolves fan? :pity:

Shame :pity:

And you wonder why I call you an idiot?

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:48 AM
Sad sad sad...

PurpleJesus
01-21-2009, 12:49 AM
Thats because you reported me.

Ratting out a twolves fan? :pity:

Shame :pity:

has even more time on his hands than me...

Mike Miller can play ball, he took over stretches of the game with his passing and rebounding from the 3

I woulda liked to see him take a couple more threes today, he nailed his first one, then his second one he missed, and he just didnt want to seem to shoot it anymore, i think if he shot a couple more and made something like 3-5, then he coulda got his confidence back

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:51 AM
I'm not into bromance so sorry

WSU Tony
01-21-2009, 12:52 AM
Two minutes, again.

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:53 AM
:pity:

You know what I mean. :mad:

I don't know your screen name has "love" it in and it isn't a reference to Kevin Love so don't believe you.

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 12:54 AM
Two minutes, again.

Gee, I wonder why, again.

WSU Tony
01-21-2009, 12:57 AM
WSU come on :mad:

It's my duty. :rolleyes:

ryguy2k7
01-21-2009, 12:58 AM
gross last 5 minutes by the wolves.

WSU Tony
01-21-2009, 01:10 AM
Gee, I wonder why, again.

:shush:

Oefarmy2005
01-21-2009, 01:36 AM
It's my duty. :rolleyes:

Why can't you guys just leave the guy alone??? It's been like a year since he first got banned, or something like that. Who cares Tony, are you a powerhog? Do you really give a **** about being a wolves TM. Does it make you feel powerfull or what? Some of you guys just got to be total geeks, like Jwin. Have you seen his picture? Someone should start a thread and we should all vote on whether to forgive T-Wolves 4ever or not. Just a thought. You should definetly talk to the MODs about forgiving the poor guy!

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 01:40 AM
Why can't you guys just leave the guy alone??? It's been like a year since he first got banned, or something like that. Who cares Tony, are you a powerhog? Do you really give a **** about being a wolves TM. Does it make you feel powerfull or what? Some of you guys just got to be total geeks, like Jwin. Have you seen his picture? Someone should start a thread and we should all vote on whether to forgive T-Wolves 4ever or not. Just a thought. You should definetly talk to the MODs about forgiving the poor guy!

Yes...I did...I don't think it is him though I bet it he is even more "geeky" looking.

Oefarmy2005
01-21-2009, 01:58 AM
Yes...I did...I don't think it is him though I bet it he is even more "geeky" looking.

:)

WSU Tony
01-21-2009, 10:09 AM
Why can't you guys just leave the guy alone??? It's been like a year since he first got banned, or something like that. Who cares Tony, are you a powerhog? Do you really give a **** about being a wolves TM. Does it make you feel powerfull or what? Some of you guys just got to be total geeks, like Jwin. Have you seen his picture? Someone should start a thread and we should all vote on whether to forgive T-Wolves 4ever or not. Just a thought. You should definetly talk to the MODs about forgiving the poor guy!

Have you ever seen me use any power in your 6 month tenure here? It was the Mods who decided to ban him in the first place and twice last night, not me. PM Ink if you feel morally obligated but I don't think your 6 months here are long enough for you to truly understand this guy.

jwin2005
01-21-2009, 01:12 PM
dude oefarmy and mauersota that was a low blow... I am not a geek although I do well at school at St. Thomas

if you ever want to play baskeball against me... I am in a men's league we play down in augsburg college and concordia academy

the website is www.cscsports.com it is called city sports connection

Yeah Tony stop thinking you can just push people around here just because you have the power.

WSU Tony
01-21-2009, 01:15 PM
dude oefarmy and mauersota that was a low blow... I am not a geek although I do well at school at St. Thomas

if you ever want to play baskeball against me... I am in a men's league we play down in augsburg college and concordia academy

the website is www.cscsports.com it is called city sports connection

Yeah Tony stop thinking you can just push people around here just because you have the power.

:laugh:

Luv Da New Pack
01-21-2009, 05:43 PM
We don't have to, Foye is more clutch then Al so why do we HAVE to go to Al.

Yes we do have to go THROUGH Al. When you have an inside presence, you use that to make an "Inside-Out" gameplan. Al had a rough night and was missing shots he generally makes. That said, Al has to understand how the opposition is defending him and make the appropriate moves. Sometimes he gets a plan in his head and is going to go through with it no matter the D and that's not good.


I agree there were some calls that we didn't get. I wouldn't say we got ripped off but I agree the refs did not respect us.

It's a shame that there is no real recourse to such things. Usually you understand that the aggressive team will get the calls but that wasn't the case. Some fouls requested were not fouls in my book because the Wolves were going out of control. And the surprise of the night was the call on Deron Williams when he charged Telfair. But there were a lot of calls that were missed that weren't even questionable. Those are the ones that I feel there should be some kind recourse on.

I also don't like how Technicals can be so subjective. I saw Sloan berate a ref and totally show him but McHale got a "T" so early and quick we couldn't even see what happened. You have a guy react to a call by gazing at the ref because he's confused about a call and he's T'd. Where other players can wave off the ref, roll his eyes, or yell at him up and down the court on multiple possessions and he gets nothing.

You know what? All we want is consistency. Should that really be so difficult?

Mauersota
01-21-2009, 06:24 PM
Yes we do have to go THROUGH Al. When you have an inside presence, you use that to make an "Inside-Out" gameplan. Al had a rough night and was missing shots he generally makes. That said, Al has to understand how the opposition is defending him and make the appropriate moves. Sometimes he gets a plan in his head and is going to go through with it no matter the D and that's not good.

If he is ego won't let him pass out then why do we have to, its like saying well I want to play Russian Roulette because it is there but I know that the bullet will be in position on my turn ah what the hell give it a go anyway? In the games that we have won lately Foye takes over and starts hitting shots while Al becomes the 2nd option. Why does Foye step up so much in the 4th while Al pretty much stays the same.

It's a shame that there is no real recourse to such things. Usually you understand that the aggressive team will get the calls but that wasn't the case. Some fouls requested were not fouls in my book because the Wolves were going out of control. And the surprise of the night was the call on Deron Williams when he charged Telfair. But there were a lot of calls that were missed that weren't even questionable. Those are the ones that I feel there should be some kind recourse on.

I also don't like how Technicals can be so subjective. I saw Sloan berate a ref and totally show him but McHale got a "T" so early and quick we couldn't even see what happened. You have a guy react to a call by gazing at the ref because he's confused about a call and he's T'd. Where other players can wave off the ref, roll his eyes, or yell at him up and down the court on multiple possessions and he gets nothing.

You know what? All we want is consistency. Should that really be so difficult?

I agree on the Techs though. But Bassy doesn't help at all with all of his arguing even though he may not be the one it does leave an impression in a a refs mind.

Oefarmy2005
01-22-2009, 07:41 PM
Have you ever seen me use any power in your 6 month tenure here? It was the Mods who decided to ban him in the first place and twice last night, not me. PM Ink if you feel morally obligated but I don't think your 6 months here are long enough for you to truly understand this guy.

Just to be clear, I have been here since JUL 07, which is 18 months and not six.

I just don't see why the heck you have to turn him in. Who says you have to report him. Just act as if you didn't think it was him and let the mods do it.

Oefarmy2005
01-22-2009, 07:51 PM
dude oefarmy and mauersota that was a low blow... I am not a geek although I do well at school at St. Thomas

if you ever want to play baskeball against me... I am in a men's league we play down in augsburg college and concordia academy

the website is www.cscsports.com it is called city sports connection

Yeah Tony stop thinking you can just push people around here just because you have the power.

Just because I am a Wolves fan doesn't mean that I am good at basketball. I wouldn't even call the way I play decent; it's pretty much terrible. The only playing I ever do is shoot around at Lifetime. I was decent back when I was a teen, but that was like 9 or 10 years ago.

Getting good grades in school doesn't make someone a geek, its just that as far as I can see you are a little asian guy with glasses. As someone who knows geeks when he sees tham, since I go to IT, you fit the bill. Don't take it the wrong way though. I don't like you because you annoy the heck out of me, and there is nothing wrong with being a geek.

WSU Tony
01-22-2009, 08:07 PM
Just to be clear, I have been here since JUL 07, which is 18 months and not six.

I just don't see why the heck you have to turn him in. Who says you have to report him. Just act as if you didn't think it was him and let the mods do it.

I am the eyes and the ears, they make the decisions. If you have a problem with how PSD works or the banning of Twolves4ever send a PM to Ink.

jwin2005
01-22-2009, 10:28 PM
Just because I am a Wolves fan doesn't mean that I am good at basketball. I wouldn't even call the way I play decent; it's pretty much terrible. The only playing I ever do is shoot around at Lifetime. I was decent back when I was a teen, but that was like 9 or 10 years ago.

Getting good grades in school doesn't make someone a geek, its just that as far as I can see you are a little asian guy with glasses. As someone who knows geeks when he sees tham, since I go to IT, you fit the bill. Don't take it the wrong way though. I don't like you because you annoy the heck out of me, and there is nothing wrong with being a geek.

Thanks for your opinion I appreciate it. I am not the greatest at basketball that is why I am not even playing division III basketball but I still try to get out there in a competitive league. As a basketball fan it is hard to not want to play basketball.

I really get bored when I watch the Wolves and how bad they are that playing in my own league gets me out and enjoying basketball again. It is tough being a little asian guy loving basketball (sorta ironic) but look at China they have the most basketball fans in the world!

Oefarmy2005
01-22-2009, 11:48 PM
Thanks for your opinion I appreciate it. I am not the greatest at basketball that is why I am not even playing division III basketball but I still try to get out there in a competitive league. As a basketball fan it is hard to not want to play basketball.

I really get bored when I watch the Wolves and how bad they are that playing in my own league gets me out and enjoying basketball again. It is tough being a little asian guy loving basketball (sorta ironic) but look at China they have the most basketball fans in the world!

They also have 1/4 of the world's total population!

thesparky33
01-23-2009, 04:02 PM
You guys gotta give WSU Tony a break. It's his duty, and mine, to report any activity that is against the rules, and having a duplicate account while banned, especially if they are permabanned, is definitely against the rules.

Personally, I like t-wolves4ever and was sad to see him permabanned. I actually sent a series of PMs to Wrigs (Administrator), basically seeing if there was any way to let him stay, and ultimately Wrigs said no. I even tried to see if he could just be allowed to post in the Wolves forum, since apparently all of his "infractions" and rule breakings were done outside of the Wolves forum, but he still said no.

That being said, I respect Wrigs' decision, and I am going to follow that, even if I disagree with it.

Oefarmy2005
01-24-2009, 01:51 AM
I am just trying to say that this is not ethical. We give a second chance to some murderers, but we can't give a guy another chance on an online forum. That's rediculus. Who ever cameup with permaban is ********. I see banning someone for some time as a disiplinary action, but doing it permanently on a FREE online forum is absurd. Unfortunatly there are no laws or norms associated with the world wide web, since it's a fairly new technology, but I would say that banning someone from a free cite and than tracking his use of other names is, at least morally, unreasonable.

WSU Tony
01-24-2009, 01:56 AM
I am just trying to say that this is not ethical. We give a second chance to some murderers, but we can't give a guy another chance on an online forum. That's rediculus. Who ever cameup with permaban is ********. I see banning someone for some time as a disiplinary action, but doing it permanently on a FREE online forum is absurd. Unfortunatly there are no laws or norms associated with the world wide web, since it's a fairly new technology, but I would say that banning someone from a free cite and than tracking his use of other names is, at least morally, unreasonable.

Do you have any idea why he got banned in the first place? If you have seen some of the causes of permabans you'd agree they have a point. From my understanding it takes a few warnings / small bans before a perma ban, maybe he has already had a 2nd....3rd.....4th... chance.

Oefarmy2005
01-24-2009, 02:02 AM
Do you have any idea why he got banned in the first place? If you have seen some of the causes of permabans you'd agree they have a point. From my understanding it takes a few warnings / small bans before a perma ban, maybe he has already had a 2nd....3rd.....4th... chance.

I have no idea what he did, I was just talking in general. What kind of stuff did he do anyways?

Mauersota
01-24-2009, 02:04 AM
I am just trying to say that this is not ethical. We give a second chance to some murderers, but we can't give a guy another chance on an online forum. That's rediculus. Who ever cameup with permaban is ********. I see banning someone for some time as a disiplinary action, but doing it permanently on a FREE online forum is absurd. Unfortunatly there are no laws or norms associated with the world wide web, since it's a fairly new technology, but I would say that banning someone from a free cite and than tracking his use of other names is, at least morally, unreasonable.

So your comparing government to a company owned sports website?

Government=A government is a body of people usually—notably—ungoverned
Company owned forum=Run by people with a set of rules that are typically followed.

Shouldn't it be reversed?

Oefarmy2005
01-24-2009, 02:10 AM
It was more of a falacy than an agrument. It was just there to get attention to what follows next about the idea of "cyberethics".