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MichiganSports
01-13-2009, 02:24 PM
the answer to our problems??? Doubtful...

mark1125
01-13-2009, 02:57 PM
the answer to our problems??? Doubtful...

Well....I don't know much about him. OK.....nothing about him. Based on the little info I found, he is 26, lefty, who doesn't throw hard (mid/upper 80's). He is referred to as the Taiwanese Okijima although Okijima has better velocity.

He signed a minor league deal for only about $150,000.

I would rather see them take a cheap flyer on someone like this than do nothing. We have nothing to lose on this.

Lionsforlife
01-13-2009, 04:58 PM
Agreed. They are not looking to solve their problems-it's a minor league contract. This is low, low, low risk, moderate to high reward. No harm done.

Bondomania
01-13-2009, 07:58 PM
reports are that he is going to have a chance to earn a spot at either Toledo or Erie. I read reports that he has a high 80's fastball, which would mean that Okajima has about the same velocity. Okajima throws in the high 80's with movement and then he drops that nasty 12-6 curve on hitters. Also, i have seen that if he pitches well, then he could have a shot at Detroit this year. I believe it is more for organizational depth, and they are hoping that maybe he will develop into something, if not then no big deal.

grizzly21
01-13-2009, 10:56 PM
another detroit organization outsourcing its work to china....unbelievable

Bondomania
01-14-2009, 09:33 AM
are you serious with that comment??

theoldgoalie
01-15-2009, 01:02 PM
It's gotta work out better than any deal for Saito would have. Again, just be patient guys, the bullpen this year will be much more improved than last years. Adding Robertson, Willis or Miner to the mix makes them better already. A healthy Zumaya and a confident Rodney makes it even better. And if Perry, Blum, Fien or Lambert work out, then the bullpen is even better. I have confidence that this team is going to be far deeper and better performing than last year.

sabreguru
01-15-2009, 09:04 PM
another detroit organization outsourcing its work to china....unbelievable

actually taiwan is quite a different territory than china, though most people in USA will not recognize it, due to continental variation (taiwan & china represents 2 different teams).

Ni has served international competition well, representing taiwan squad in various roles (Pan-Asia, Olympics, World Cup, etc..), if he ever pans out, he's a good buy-low, high-reward option to take on.

Sheffies Chef
01-15-2009, 09:08 PM
Fu-Te Ni's going to pitch for Taiwan in the world baseball classic FYI everybody.

Yes, We Deliver
01-16-2009, 11:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNufBC0ZlvU

Press Conference Video ^

This is apparently a very big deal in Taiwan. He'll likely be the first Major Leaguer that the CPBL has produced.

Here's Ni pitching against Team Canada (Gave up 4 over 7 2/3) so you can get an idea of how good his stuff is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=966cDP4trsk

He throws from different angles and is regarded as the premiere lefty in the CPBL. He also throws a ton of strikes according to Beck's report, so he should put the ball in play. It should go pretty hand-in-hand with Detroit's recent defensive upgrades. He probably won't make the roster out of spring training, because he's all but committed to the WBC for Chinese-Taipei. This is pure speculation, but I predict his role this year will be simular to Clay Rapada's with a potential call-up to be a lefty specialist.

Outside that, I don't know too much about him. Okajima seems to be the popular comparison, but I'm not sure that's the best one. Okajima is more over the top with his delivery while Ni comes from more of a sidearm. It produces a different break on off speed pitches. I think his pitching style could better be compared to Kenny Rogers.
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Sounds to me like a great signing. A very cheap player with some potential. A very low risk move, which is exactly what Detroit has been doing, and exactly what Detroit has NEEDED to do.

I should raise one more, very important point: This is Detroit's 2nd signing from Taiwan in consecutive years. While that may not sound important, it is. This could open the door for Detroit to sign many other Taiwanese players, simular to the Dodgers. Look at the domino effect Dice-K/Okajima's signings had with Boston's popularity in Japan. They're not only very popular in Japan, but they're popular among Japanese players looking to jump to MLB. The more Detroit's name gets out internationally, the more familiar your team gets with potential foreign prospects.

Sheffies Chef
01-17-2009, 01:19 AM
+1

Great analysis dude. Fu-Te looks like he has sick stuff. Those first two K's on that You Tube video, I loved that delivery. the way the hand comes from behind the back like that. Sick stuff IMO.

could be a good one IMO.

Sheffies Chef
01-17-2009, 01:21 AM
btw, the way that reporter talked in the first vid. lol, priceless. sounds awesome even though i can't understand a damn word she said.

two words us all and Fu-Te all know:















STRIKE!!!
















































STRIKEOUT!!!!!!!!!

babygranderson
01-17-2009, 10:06 AM
I've always been impressed by and thankful for some of you guys (especially by Bondo & Sheff) who post comprehensive scouting reports for players I am not able to see - or for the most part - read about.

I am not sure if I am the last guy (geek) on the planet to hear about: saberscouting.com, but I thought the site was fairly comprehensive and the reports were done by people who actually know the mechanics of baseball as a opposed to a bunch of hacks who really don't understand the nuances. I'm throwing a hyperlink to Rick Porcello on here for our brothers-in-arms Tiger Fans. By the way, I am even more freakin' pumped than ever to see Porcello arrive for good in Motown .

http://www.saberscouting.com/2008/04/16/rickporcelloreport2-2/
(http://www.saberscouting.com/2008/04/16/rickporcelloreport2-2/)

PS - it isn't "illegal" or even poor ettiquette to post links on this board, is it? This is the only board of any kind I ever visit, & I typically read a few things and jump off. My apologies if I violated some kind of cyber semantics!

Sheffies Chef
01-17-2009, 06:29 PM
post all the links you want bro.

and thank you for that kind word of thanks : ).

Sheffies Chef
01-17-2009, 06:34 PM
good link granderson. that was a good report.

I like Rick's windup, it seems kinda deceptive to me, and thats a big plus. i was very pleased to see that great report on him, but the ETA is a bit off IMO. He will be ready to contribute by midseason this year, ready for a full time gig, in 2010.

babygranderson
01-18-2009, 05:32 AM
Thanks for the props and insight. I hope others enjoy that link, too. I didn't spend much time on it, but I type in "Iorg" in it, and evidently there's not a report done on him. I wonder how extensive the "database" is for players??

Sheffies Chef
01-22-2009, 08:33 PM
lol, well, people should know about him next year.