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LD V2.0
01-06-2009, 10:12 AM
We like to say Barkley's irresponsible, but isn't he really a bad guy?

A very bad guy?

"This was Barkley's third documented arrest on assorted violations," writes Peter Vescey of the New York Post. "I guess we should be grateful he didn't throw anyone through a plate-glass window ... again. Or spit in the face of young female fan ... again. Or make a play for an owner's underage daughter ... again. Or louse up a night or a playoff series for his team ... again."

When it emerged that Barkley allegedly owed a casino hundreds of thousands of dollars and stiffed them, before eventually paying, we all laughed it off. "Oh, that's Charles." That's a repetitive theme with Barkley -- Oh, that's just Barkley being Barkley, which is what we said with Daly as his career crashed and burned.

We've giggled too much with Barkley instead of blasting him, ignored his stupidity instead of chastising him, given him a lifetime pass instead of holding him accountable.

In the media, we've been as much of a disgrace as he has. We've blasted the inarticulate verbiage of Emmitt Smith more than we have the foul behavior of Barkley.
Sportsline (http://www.sportsline.com/columns/story/11226137)


I agree with Mike Freeman. If you pinned that rap sheet to a guy like Barry Bonds(even before the scandal), who hated the media, they would have crucified him. Same goes numerous other media dubbed villains. What are your thoughts?

Me, personally, I've felt that the sports media doesn't hold its self to the same standards are other areas of journalism and I I've felt this for a long time. There are many bias' out there and many in the sports world are not fair and partial to everyone. They have their favorites and they have their enemies, who you can identify as both individuals and teams, and you know what they do with that mindset on a weekly bases. I believe a writer, who has so much power to influence the masses, has a responsibility to conduct himself as fairly as you would expect a judge to do so.

cubulls
01-06-2009, 12:12 PM
:clap:

Barkley is the man. **** anyone who has a problem with him.

Giaps
01-06-2009, 12:45 PM
Who cares? Everybody messes up but some people are more likable than others.

LakeSho4Life
01-06-2009, 12:49 PM
Barkley gets a get out of jail free card because he has already said a million times throughout his career "I am not a role model!" LOL

albertc86
01-06-2009, 02:17 PM
Honestly, Charles was a great player, but I've never liked his commentating. He keeps it real, but there's plenty of former NBA stars who would do a better job.

Missing56&33
01-06-2009, 03:03 PM
Charles Barkey is a joke and nobody takes him seriously. The reason hes acting like a fool now and for the most part of his life is because he knows nobody takes him seriously. The bad thing about it is this fool will be elected in some public office because the ones that he affiliate himself with know he will be a yes sir no sir type of leader. He speaks what people want to hear but will do what hes told to do.

Hes a miserable guy. I mean to spit in a fans face and all the other stuff he does is ridiculous because he crying out for help but refuse to get help. Im not surprised he didn't win a championship he eats to freakin much. I dont like Charles Barkey....he use to be alright with me in the mid 80's until he started bashing the knicks every chance he gets ...now i just cant stand him. I hope to see another commentator on TNT hes worn out his welcome

HoLLyWooD PLK
01-06-2009, 03:15 PM
Barkley is a Hall Of Famer

and One Of The Most Hilarious Commentators EVER !!

legendkillerv2
01-06-2009, 03:17 PM
Barkley is a Hall Of Famer

and One Of The Most Hilarious Commentators EVER !!



Yep Barkley is the man!!!!!!!!!

S-Dot
01-06-2009, 03:29 PM
Barkley is a realistic celebrity...tells it like it is, and makes mistakes (and he admits to them). He admitted to his gambling problems on TNT. He told LeBron to shut up and not worry about 2010, and he does the gameshow "Who he play for?" Barkley is human...not a bad guy.

The Ooh Child
01-06-2009, 04:08 PM
This guy is bringing up stuff Chuck did when he was still really young. Didn't he throw that dude through a window in the late 80's. And wasn't he absolutely blasted in the media at the time? This writer is a huge douche and obviously doesn't appreciate Chuck's considerable talents as a TV personality. What Chuck did is inexcusable, but what this writer is suggesting is ridiculous. The sports media has already paid a lot of attention to this incidence, but apparently Barkley wasn't reviled to this writer's liking.

LD V2.0
01-06-2009, 04:24 PM
Barkley is a realistic celebrity...tells it like it is, and makes mistakes (and he admits to them). He admitted to his gambling problems on TNT. He told LeBron to shut up and not worry about 2010, and he does the gameshow "Who he play for?" Barkley is human...not a bad guy.

Doesn't everybody? :confused: Its kind of hard to spin what he's done off the court in a positive light; nobody would be gullible enough to buy that, not even his own mother.

I'm sorry but I don't know ANY 40 something, ANYbody for that matter, macking on kids, evading huge gambling debts and driving around town piss loaded look for a BJ. Thats the definition of *******. Forget about the fact that you like him and look at the facts. He's a *******. Funny and likable but a *******. He should be grilled like everybody else. **** the double standards. Double standards are a large part of what's wrong with society. Double standards are at the root of most social issues.

Lakers4ItAll
01-06-2009, 04:47 PM
I Love Chuck I could care less about his personal life

LD V2.0
01-06-2009, 05:52 PM
If Dennis Rodman had been caught doing that stuff I'm thinking you might feel differently.

mjt20mik
01-06-2009, 05:58 PM
I think people like Chuck, because he does anything and doesn't give a **** what people will think about him after. I understand he should not be doing it, but that mentality gives the media more of a reason to put him in a high note, rather than a low.

Would you rather hear of a person that always does bad, to do bad again. Or a person that always does good, and suddenly does bad?

LD V2.0
01-06-2009, 06:04 PM
My point is that there are guys with lesser wrap sheets than Barkley who have been thrown under the bus by the media. Why? Because they're not kissing the media's *** and aren't part of the media like Charles.

Prime example is Barry Bond, well before the scandal. He had a clean sheet yet the media dissected him on every opportunity because they didn't like him. He didn't cater to them like guys like Charles and so they singled him out; Barry wouldn't play ball so to speak. The sports media isn't fair/partial. They're the second lowest form of media in the world in fact, just ahead of the tabloids.

MrBloop
01-06-2009, 06:16 PM
Sportsline (http://www.sportsline.com/columns/story/11226137)


I agree with Mike Freeman. If you pinned that rap sheet to a guy like Barry Bonds(even before the scandal), who hated the media, they would have crucified him. Same goes numerous other media dubbed villains. What are your thoughts?

Me, personally, I've felt that the sports media doesn't hold its self to the same standards are other areas of journalism and I I've felt this for a long time. There are many bias' out there and many in the sports world are not fair and partial to everyone. They have their favorites and they have their enemies, who you can identify as both individuals and teams, and you know what they do with that mindset on a weekly bases. I believe a writer, who has so much power to influence the masses, has a responsibility to conduct himself as fairly as you would expect a judge to do so.

Its the nature of the profession, they all have their favorites...Is this thread about Sir Charles or unfair reporting?

You lost me.

MrBloop
01-06-2009, 06:30 PM
I personally love Barkley, he's always been one of my favorite players in the era of basketball I grew up watching. As an athlete he was one of the most complete players to ever step foot on the court, and as a social spokesperson he's breath of fresh air, as an analyst he's entertaining. What's not to like??? The only people who have a problem with him seem to be uptight white people (no offense) and he can't stand them either, so whats beef here?

The guys not perfect, he doesn't try to come off perfect, and no matter how much money he has, he seems to come across as the "every man's man".

For my money, Inside The NBA is one of the most entertaining shows on TV, I look forward to that more so than the Orlando/Chicago Houston/Portland Double header that seems to be on TNT every week.

S.J.Basketball
01-06-2009, 06:41 PM
Doesn't everybody? :confused: Its kind of hard to spin what he's done off the court in a positive light; nobody would be gullible enough to buy that, not even his own mother.

I'm sorry but I don't know ANY 40 something, ANYbody for that matter, macking on kids, evading huge gambling debts and driving around town piss loaded look for a BJ. Thats the definition of *******. Forget about the fact that you like him and look at the facts. He's a *******. Funny and likable but a *******. He should be grilled like everybody else. **** the double standards. Double standards are a large part of what's wrong with society. Double standards are at the root of most social issues.

I like the way you move.

superkegger
01-06-2009, 06:48 PM
I'm not really concerned with Chuck's rap sheet. He's not a good dude. So what? He's well liked, its how it is, I don't see it as a problem. Everyone is well aware that he himself is knucklehead. But he's a likable knucklehead. Life goes on.

S.J.Basketball
01-06-2009, 06:48 PM
Charles is straight up an idiot and it's scary to see people follow him the way they do. He could commit murder as long as he gets you guys laughing and slurring his words in a funny way. TURRRBLE!

That and Charles should NEVER EVVVVEEERRRRRR participate in any kind of political discussion or debate what-so-ever. Finest example of Charles being an idiot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAZzgTLsDYY

oldenpolynice
01-06-2009, 07:50 PM
Unfortunately, Barkley does get a free pass from almost everybody because he's humorous and he doesn't take things too seriously. What his cohorts in the media fail to realize, though, is that in excusing these actions, they are essentially telling those who look up to Barkley, "It's ok to get pulled over on suspicion of drinking and driving as long as you can make funny jokes about it afterward and play it cool." As long as you joke about BJ's, your bad behavior gets mollified.

Ultimately stunts like this hurt only two groups of people: 1) Barkley and those close to him, and 2) those who idolize Barkley.

Messing up and breaking the law isn't the exception for Barkley. It's happened a number of times. One of these times it will catch up to him and then it won't be so funny anymore. Kind-hearted (which he is) or not, you always fall hard in the end when you're living the lifestyle that he lives.

Hopefully those who follow him and use him as a barometer of how they want to live (despite his protests that they don't follow his example) see the recourse of his actions before they wind up in the same situation.

LD V2.0
01-06-2009, 07:58 PM
Its the nature of the profession, they all have their favorites...Is this thread about Sir Charles or unfair reporting?

You lost me.

Both. The title doesn't hit on everything I said in the first post. Maybe thats the problem. Read my first post. I started with two points of interest from the beginning.



Ultimately stunts like this hurt only two groups of people: 1) Barkley and those close to him, and 2) those who idolize Barkley.

Exactly. It glorifies degenerate behavior which would not be tolerated by non media darlings.

KB24PG16
01-06-2009, 07:59 PM
is tnt going to fire him

NBAkYD
01-06-2009, 08:22 PM
Barkley is a realistic celebrity...tells it like it is, and makes mistakes (and he admits to them). He admitted to his gambling problems on TNT. He told LeBron to shut up and not worry about 2010, and he does the gameshow "Who he play for?" Barkley is human...not a bad guy.

Amen

Barkley and the world have always had a love-hate relationship, but Barkley is generally a good guy and has always been worth his weight in comedic value

S.J.Basketball
01-06-2009, 08:26 PM
When is not being able to filter your mouth and blurting out complete and utter Bull Crap and sounding like a moron "telling it like it is"??

Some people need to check themselves. Read a book.

IBleedPurple
01-06-2009, 09:24 PM
I have grown tired of his antics. They used to be entertaining, but now have grown tiresome. Wish he'd just shut his fat mouth and quit thinking his opinion matters more than others'

MiamiHeat
01-06-2009, 09:29 PM
I like Barkley funny guy, he has said before he isn't a role model

Barkley is the man and a dumbass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDDxh3iyy9s&feature=related

:laugh2:

mrblisterdundee
01-06-2009, 09:41 PM
Charles Barkley has always been a joke. I'm going to make a thread comparing him an Gilbert Arenas.

ARMIN12NBA
01-06-2009, 10:00 PM
Barkley deserves a free pass to everything. Truthfully, the guy doesn't do anything wrong. It's just Charles being Charles. As long as he is being Charles then he is doing the right thing. If he stops being Charles and starts being responsible, well-spoken, and a gentlemen then it is time to start questioning his morality.

LD V2.0
01-06-2009, 10:49 PM
Amen

Barkley and the world have always had a love-hate relationship, but Barkley is generally a good guy and has always been worth his weight in comedic value

How do you know that? Because he's good for a laugh on T.V.?

ARMIN12NBA
01-06-2009, 10:52 PM
How do you know that? Because he's good for a laugh on T.V.?

Yes. Exactly.

Nighthawk
01-07-2009, 01:03 AM
How do you know that? Because he's good for a laugh on T.V.?

he spits on females. disregards the rules of the road for some road head. I could go on. But isnt that enough. Barkley RULES

LD V2.0
01-07-2009, 11:27 AM
Yeah, if he wasn't rich and famous because he used to be able to play basketball he'd be that seedy character on the street corner who parents tell their children to stay away from...

The Ooh Child
01-07-2009, 02:35 PM
When is not being able to filter your mouth and blurting out complete and utter Bull Crap and sounding like a moron "telling it like it is"??

Some people need to check themselves. Read a book.

Finding a friendly fool like Charles Barkley entertaining says nothing about a person's intelligence. Some people need not to be so pretentious and find a sense of humor.

theuuord
01-07-2009, 02:43 PM
if anyone is looking towards Charles Barkley for their moral compass than you have a lot more problems than whether or not your TNT commentator drove drunk one night.

Period.

Missing56&33
01-07-2009, 02:43 PM
this confirms my suspensions he was drunk on the set of NBA on TNT a few times. Im afraid he going to say something one day thats going to really offend a person or group and be banned from the league

Lakerfrk
01-07-2009, 02:57 PM
Finding a friendly fool like Charles Barkley entertaining says nothing about a person's intelligence. Some people need not to be so pretentious and find a sense of humor.

perfectly said....TNT would be stupid to get rid of him... rating would plummet.

They are the highest rated sports show right now not named Sportscenter. And its BECAUSE of the banter that EJ, Jet, and Charles have together.

He's made mistakes.. everyone has, but unless he goes to jail, he will and should still be on the TNT panel.

Statik1
01-07-2009, 03:22 PM
he spits on females. disregards the rules of the road for some road head. I could go on. But isnt that enough. Barkley RULES

:clap::clap::clap:

Funniest **** I have read all day!

Why hate on chuck common people.....

What else is someone that has that much money going to do for the rest of his life? Sit around and invest it? NOT in this day and age j/k Chuck rules!