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JordansBulls
01-03-2009, 04:31 PM
Each of these Guys, are they better as a #1 Option or #2 Option right now


Superstars

Lebron
Kobe
Dwight
Wade
Dirk
Duncan
Iverson
Garnett
Pierce
Yao
CP3


Stars
Carmelo
Tmac
Vince
Roy
Granger
Joe Johnson
Bosh
Amare
Boozer
Deron
Gasol
Nash
Billups
Parker
David West
Ray Allen
Aldridge
Brand
Al Jefferson

Those are just some names that come to mind.

THE MTL
01-03-2009, 04:46 PM
Lebron- first
Kobe- first
Dwight- first
Wade- first
Dirk- first
Duncan- first option. Eventhough he is like second option on Spurs.
Iverson- DEFINITELY FIRST look what Detriot has done to him :(
Garnett- second option even back in Minny the guy only averaged 22ppg
Pierce- second option. Was about to leave Boston.
Yao- second option. Way to injured
CP3- FIRST OPTION ON EVERYTHING. This guy should always have the ball.



Carmelo- first option. Melo hasnt ascended yet into a superstar
Tmac- third option. Teams should get used to him missing half the season.
Vince- first/second option. I think Carter and Harris share and it works out.
Roy- first option.
Granger- first option. This STAT HO needs to find a better team
Joe Johnson- second option
Bosh- second option. Bosh 24pts 10rebs. And his team is worse than KNicks.
Amare- second option. I wanna be that Guy. YEA RIGHT
Boozer- second option. He just cant lead a team.
Deron- first option. The guy just needs the ball in his hands
Gasol- third option. Lakers proved that
Nash- first option. EVERYTHING should go thru Nash
Billups- second option. However, he should ALWAYS have the ball in his hands
Parker- second option
David West- second option
Ray Allen- third option.
Aldridge- third option
Brand- second option.
Al Jefferson- second option. Proof that u can get great stats on a bad team,


AND I CANT BELIEVE I JUST DID THIS LOL.

Nadhi1
01-03-2009, 05:27 PM
Bosh and Amare arent second options. vince is a second option at best, Harris is first

SteveNash
01-03-2009, 05:33 PM
Superstars

Lebron 2
Kobe 1
Dwight 2
Wade 1
Dirk 2
Duncan 1
Iverson 1
Garnett 2
Pierce 1
Yao 1
CP3 1


Stars
Carmelo 2
Tmac 2
Vince 1
Roy 2
Granger 1
Joe Johnson 1
Bosh 2
Amare 1
Boozer 1
Deron 2
Gasol 2
Nash 2
Billups 2
Parker 2
David West 2
Ray Allen 2
Aldridge 2
Brand 2
Al Jefferson 2

*some 2's should be below the second option.

**some 2's are better than players I put as the first option. Obviously LeBron is way better than Iverson, but AI is incapable of playing any sort of a team game.

rapswin98
01-03-2009, 05:35 PM
Bosh and Amare arent second options. vince is a second option at best, Harris is firstIMO, bosh and amare are second options. look at garnett. there arent alot of PFs that are first options

Sox Appeal
01-03-2009, 07:33 PM
Superstars

Lebron - 1
Kobe - 1
Dwight - 1
Wade - 1
Dirk - 2
Duncan - 1
Iverson - 1
Garnett - 1
Pierce - 2
Yao - 2
CP3 - 1


Stars

Carmelo - 2
Tmac - 2
Vince - 1
Roy - 2
Granger - 1
Joe Johnson - 1
Bosh - 1
Amare - 2
Boozer - 2
Deron - 2
Gasol - 2
Nash - 2
Billups - 1
Parker - 2
David West - 2
Ray Allen - 2
Aldridge - 2
Brand - 1
Al Jefferson - 1

Raps18-19 Champ
01-03-2009, 07:38 PM
Lebron-1
Kobe-1
Dwight-1
Wade-1
Dirk-2
Duncan-1
Iverson-1
Garnett-1
Pierce-2
Yao-2
CP3-1
Carmelo-1
Tmac-2
Vince-2
Roy-2
Granger-2
Joe Johnson-1
Bosh-1
Amare-1
Boozer-2
Deron-2
Gasol-2
Nash-2
Billups-2
Parker-2
David West-2
Ray Allen-2
Aldridge-2
Brand-depends who the other guy is
Al Jefferson-2

stawka
01-03-2009, 07:50 PM
Lebron 2


I stopped reading your post after I saw that... LeBron as a #2 option? Are you serious?????

IndyRealist
01-03-2009, 07:53 PM
Superstars

Lebron 1&
Kobe 1&
Dwight 1*
Wade 1&
Dirk 2#
Duncan 1*
Iverson 1&
Garnett 2#
Pierce 1&
Yao 1*
CP3 1&


Stars
Carmelo 1*
Tmac 2
Vince 1
Roy 1
Granger 2#
Joe Johnson 1&
Bosh 1*
Amare 1*
Boozer 2*
Deron 1&
Gasol 2#
Nash 1&
Billups 2&
Parker 2&
David West 2
Ray Allen 1&
Aldridge 2
Brand 1*
Al Jefferson 1*

& denotes players who need the ball in their hands to be effective.
* denotes players who need to play inside/out to be effective.
# denotes spot-up jump shooters, who might not be the primary scoring threat but could lead the team in ppg, because they hit open jumpers.

KobeIs
01-03-2009, 07:55 PM
I stopped reading your post after I saw that... LeBron as a #2 option? Are you serious?????

agree, didn't even bother, sorry man...

but i agree with pretty much everyone else's opinions as well.

JermanJaysFan
01-03-2009, 07:57 PM
First- Lebron
First- Kobe
Second- Dwight
First- Wade
First- Dirk
First- Duncan
First- Iverson
Second- Garnett
First- Pierce
Second- Yao
First -CP3

First- Carmelo
Second- Tmac
Second- Vince
First- Roy
Second- Granger
First- Joe Johnson
Second- Bosh
Second- Amare
Second- Boozer
First- Deron
Second- Gasol
First- Nash
Second- Billups
First- Parker
Second- David West
Second- Ray Allen
Second- Aldridge
Second- Brand
Second- Al Jefferson

I classified these guys with a first option being a guy who can dominate the ball/offense for a successful team.

JIDsanity
01-03-2009, 08:16 PM
Every Toronto fan has VC as 2nd

Morgan
01-03-2009, 08:48 PM
Lebron-1
Kobe-1
Dwight-2 only because he doesn't have a post game like Hakeem, Duncan, or KG
Wade-1
Dirk-1
Duncan-1
Iverson-1
Garnett-2
Pierce-1
Yao-2
CP3-1


Stars
Carmelo-2
Tmac-1
Vince-2
Roy-2
Granger-2
Joe Johnson-1
Bosh-2
Amare-2
Boozer-2
Deron-1
Gasol-3
Nash-2
Billups-1
Parker-2
David West-2
Ray Allen-3
Aldridge-2
Brand-2
Al Jefferson-1 I'm not saying AJ is better than Dwight Howard but he has a better post game and he can shoot better. Howard will eventually get a post game but, right now he only scores on put backs, alley oops, or when someone gives him the ball when he's right under the basket and to be a #1 option you need to be able to score in more ways than that.

FOBolous
01-03-2009, 08:52 PM
Superstars

Lebron - first
Kobe - first
Dwight - second...his offensive game isn't polish enough to be the 1st option
Wade - first
Dirk - second
Duncan - first...duh
Iverson - first...he has to have the ball to be effective
Garnett - second...he's old now
Pierce - second
Yao - i really want to say first but judging by how he's been playing so far this season...he should be 2nd but once he gets back in shape, he'll be first
CP3 - first


Stars
Carmelo - second...he's a scorer and nothing more
Tmac - judging by how he's been playing this season...he's not even good enough to be the third option
Vince - second
Roy - first
Granger - second
Joe Johnson - second
Bosh - first
Amare - second
Boozer - depends
Deron - depends
Gasol - depends
Nash - first...he has to have the ball to be effective
Billups - first...he has to have the ball to be effective
Parker - second
David West - second
Ray Allen - second...he's old now
Aldridge - for now? second. in the future? who knows.
Brand - depends
Al Jefferson - don't know

The Answer3
01-03-2009, 09:16 PM
but AI is incapable of playing any sort of a team game.

Spot on, EINSTEIN.

ARMIN12NBA
01-03-2009, 09:21 PM
I'm surprised at how many people are saying Carmelo Anthony is a second option.

SteveNash
01-03-2009, 11:18 PM
I stopped reading your post after I saw that... LeBron as a #2 option? Are you serious?????

Maybe you should bother to read my whole post.

LeBron's doing a lot better this season compared to last while not taking on as much pressure while being the first option. Playing off the ball has helped him tremendously this season, and not having him as the first option to end games will hide some of his flaws, such as his bad FT%.

Sox Appeal
01-03-2009, 11:49 PM
Maybe you should bother to read my whole post.

LeBron's doing a lot better this season compared to last while not taking on as much pressure while being the first option. Playing off the ball has helped him tremendously this season, and not having him as the first option to end games will hide some of his flaws, [such as his bad FT%.

I don't think Lebron's 'bad FT%' is really effecting him at the end of games. (Like I said in another thread, Lebron has BY FAR the best 'clutch stats' out of any player in the NBA) And if you've ever seen the Cavs play, you would know that Lebron dominates the ball, and he ALWAYS has it in his hands at the end of games. So I don't see where your getting the 'playing him off the ball has helped him tremendously' from.

ARMIN12NBA
01-03-2009, 11:51 PM
I don't think Lebron's 'bad FT%' is really effecting him at the end of games. (Like I said in another thread, Lebron has BY FAR the best 'clutch stats' out of any player in the NBA) And if you've ever seen the Cavs play, you would know that Lebron dominates the ball, and he ALWAYS has it in his hands at the end of games. So I don't see where your getting the 'playing him off the ball has helped him tremendously' thing from.

I believe Carmelo Anthony has something to say about that.

Lakersfan2483
01-03-2009, 11:57 PM
[QUOTE=JordansBulls;7864956]Each of these Guys, are they better as a #1 Option or #2 Option right now


Superstars

Lebron
Kobe
Dwight
Wade
Dirk
Duncan
Iverson
Garnett
Pierce
Yao
CP3


Stars
Carmelo
Tmac
Vince
Roy
Granger
Joe Johnson
Bosh
Amare
Boozer
Deron
Gasol
Nash
Billups
Parker
David West
Ray Allen
Aldridge
Brand
Al Jefferson

Those are just some names that come to mind.[/QUOte

Dirk, Yao, Melo, T-Mac (when healthy), Pierce are all players that are better suited as a 2nd option.

Carmelo
Tmac
Vince
Roy
Granger
Joe Johnson
Bosh
Amare
Boozer
Deron
Gasol
Nash
Billups
Parker
David West
Ray Allen
Aldridge
Brand
Al Jefferson

All of those players directly above are 2nd option players.

Lakersfan2483
01-04-2009, 12:05 AM
[QUOTE=JordansBulls;7864956]Each of these Guys, are they better as a #1 Option or #2 Option right now

I would like to see how D. Howard would perform with a better guard like Wade or Kobe on his team.

Sox Appeal
01-04-2009, 12:30 AM
I believe Carmelo Anthony has something to say about that.

http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM

MELO 15
01-04-2009, 12:47 AM
[QUOTE=FOBolous;7867567]Superstars


Stars
Carmelo - second...he's a scorer and nothing more


Have U been watching The man play, This guy leads all SF in rebounds a game, he has become a better passer, although the stats don't say so, and he is sacrificing shots he would have taken last year, he's actually shooting less. Some times I think people say things without even thinking, or in this case type. And how can you call him a secound option, if the game was on the line, and the game is tied or the opponent is up by 1, 2, or even 3 points, and I had to put money down on a game, " even though I would do no such thing" Melo would be the guy I'd want taking the last shot. So there's no way He's a #2 option. And if you think Im crazy for saying so, look the numbers up buddy. As a matter a fact, didn't he hit a game winner last night, I believe so. When durant was beating his chest like he was the man for hitting that shot, Melo hit the game winner and acted as if it was nothing. So before you say these crazy things about Melo, Who I think is the best natural SF in the league, maybe you should watch him play some, and do research on the guy, and youd know for sure he isn't a secound.

SteveNash
01-04-2009, 01:08 AM
http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM

25 minutes is a very small sample size.

That would be like saying Kevin Martin is the best player in the league because of the game he had last night.

FOBolous
01-04-2009, 01:26 AM
Superstars


Stars
Carmelo - second...he's a scorer and nothing more


Have U been watching The man play, This guy leads all SF in rebounds a game, he has become a better passer, although the stats don't say so, and he is sacrificing shots he would have taken last year, he's actually shooting less. Some times I think people say things without even thinking, or in this case type. And how can you call him a secound option, if the game was on the line, and the game is tied or the opponent is up by 1, 2, or even 3 points, and I had to put money down on a game, " even though I would do no such thing" Melo would be the guy I'd want taking the last shot. So there's no way He's a #2 option. And if you think Im crazy for saying so, look the numbers up buddy. As a matter a fact, didn't he hit a game winner last night, I believe so. When durant was beating his chest like he was the man for hitting that shot, Melo hit the game winner and acted as if it was nothing. So before you say these crazy things about Melo, Who I think is the best natural SF in the league, maybe you should watch him play some, and do research on the guy, and youd know for sure he isn't a secound.

being clutch doesn't make you the first option...it means your clutch, that's it. nothing more. Robert Horry is arguably one of the clutch-est player in NBA history and he's definitely not 1st option material. There's more to being the first option than just being clutch...there's many other intangibles like leadership that factors in. and if you take everything into account...you will realize that Carmelo is not 1st option material despite his obvious level of talent and skills. let me ask you this...who do you think is the leader of the Nuggets? who on the team do you think initiates everything? Who on the team do you think dictates how the team players? in my opinion...it's not carmelo. it's billups. and i have yet to see carmelo having those abilities.

you know which players have those traits? Lebron has it...Wade has it...Kobe has it...and because those players have it, they're players you can built a championship team around. and if you notice...all the players i listed as first opitions are players that i would feel comfortable building a championship contending team around if i was the GM. Carmelo? i don't know...i haven't seen those traits in him and because i don't see those traits in him, i see him as a player i would add next to my first option to have create a championship contending team.

MELO 15
01-04-2009, 01:51 AM
being clutch doesn't make you the first option...it means your clutch, that's it. nothing more. Robert Horry is arguably one of the clutch-est player in NBA history and he's definitely not 1st option material. There's more to being the first option than just being clutch...there's many other intangibles like leadership that factors in. and if you take everything into account...you will realize that Carmelo is not 1st option material despite his obvious level of talent and skills. let me ask you this...who do you think is the leader of the Nuggets? who on the team do you think initiates everything? Who on the team do you think dictates how the team players? in my opinion...it's not carmelo. it's billups. and i have yet to see carmelo having those abilities.

you know which players have those traits? Lebron has it...Wade has it...Kobe has it...and because those players have it, they're players you can built a championship team around. and if you notice...all the players i listed as first opitions are players that i would feel comfortable building a championship contending team around if i was the GM. Carmelo? i don't know...i haven't seen those traits in him and because i don't see those traits in him, i see him as a player i would add next to my first option to have create a championship contending team.

Of course Billups has the ball in his hands, thats because he's the facilitator, he does what natural pgs are supose to do, he orchestrates the team, thats what this team alway lacked, but does that make him the first option? No. And secound, You can't even put guy's like Horry, kerr, paxson or even graig hodges in the same category, because Melo does something those guys don't, he creates the plays for himself to get the shot off, those other guys I mentioned, or you mentioned like horry, are guys who are told to sit in a designated spot on the floor, and people create the shots for them, so in a sense there shooting with no hands in there face. Its two different things. Thats why its called 1st option, because you know that if the game is on the line who do I want to have the ball in his hands, And Melo would be the guy. Did you happen to watch the performance, where they needed buckets, and they got the ball to Melo and he dropped 33 in a qtr. Those guys you have mentioned like the kobe's the lebron's the dwade's, they haven't done that yet, even with kobe 81 pt performance, he couldn't get 33 in a qtr. So again Melo is the 1st option. The now and the future is Melo, for the Nuggets, not Chauncey Billups. As much as I like that guy as well.:cool:

G-Funk
01-04-2009, 02:00 AM
Dirk would make a perfect 2!

MELO 15
01-04-2009, 02:02 AM
Dirk would make a perfect 2!


I agree with you 100 percent

FOBolous
01-04-2009, 02:07 AM
Of course Billups has the ball in his hands, thats because he's the facilitator, he does what natural pgs are supose to do, he orchestrates the team, thats what this team alway lacked, but does that make him the first option? No. And secound, You can't even put guy's like Horry, kerr, paxson or even graig hodges in the same category, because Melo does something those guys don't, he creates the plays for himself to get the shot off, those other guys I mentioned, or you mentioned like horry, are guys who are told to sit in a designated spot on the floor, and people create the shots for them, so in a sense there shooting with no hands in there face. Its two different things. Thats why its called 1st option, because you know that if the game is on the line who do I want to have the ball in his hands, And Melo would be the guy. Did you happen to watch the performance, where they needed buckets, and they got the ball to Melo and he dropped 33 in a qtr. Those guys you have mentioned like the kobe's the lebron's the dwade's, they haven't done that yet, even with kobe 81 pt performance, he couldn't get 33 in a qtr. So again Melo is the 1st option. The now and the future is Melo, for the Nuggets, not Chauncey Billups. As much as I like that guy as well.:cool:

doesn't matter what he does...he still doesn't have the intangibles that those other players possesses. He still isn't the leader of the team and he still doesn't dictate the flow of the team. All those players I mentioned as first options are the leaders of their teams and they dictate how their team players...and more than half of them aren't PGs. some of those players i mentioned as first options have good PGs on their team who handles the balls...duncan and bosh are two great examples. both of those players play with great PGs and they don't handle the ball....in fact, they rely on the PGs to get them the ball yet they're still the first options. why? because they're the leaders of their team and they dictate how the team plays. Carmelo? nope. he is neither. Billups? yes. He is the leader of the Nuggets and he dictates how the Nuggest play. Until Carmelo becomes the leader of the team or shows he has the ability to lead a team...he'll be a second option.


another example i can give you is the Mavericks. Jason Kidd no doubt handles the ball and initiates the offense but who is their first option? Dirk..even though i think he's better suited as a second option. why is Dirk the first option in Dallas and not Jason Kidd? because of all those previous reasons i mentioned.

JordansBulls
01-04-2009, 02:30 AM
Dirk would make a perfect 2!

I think he is a good #1 option. He is efficient and he did carry a team to the finals. The next best player he has ever had was Josh Howard, but change him out and have him have a Paul Pierce or Vince Carter and you would see that he could lead.

ARMIN12NBA
01-04-2009, 03:35 AM
http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM

1. Hey, look, there is Carmelo Anthony at second and I didn't need 82games.com to tell me he is clutch.

2. Carmelo is shooting 6% better in the clutch from the field, 24% better from three, 7% better from the line, and is getting less turnovers.

3. Carmelo is being just as clutch in double the amount of time.

Like I said, Carmelo has something to say about it.

BTW--Carmelo Anthony has made more game-winning (last second) jump-shots this season than Lebron James has in his entire career. Game. Set. Match.

JJ81
01-04-2009, 06:24 AM
Superstars

Kobe - 1
Lebron - 1
Dwight - 2
Wade - 1
Dirk - 2
Duncan - 2
Iverson - 1
Garnett - 2
Pierce - 2
Yao - 2
CP3 - 1


Stars
Carmelo - 1
Tmac - 1
Vince - 1
Roy - 1
Granger - 2
Joe Johnson - 1
Bosh - 1
Amare - 2
Boozer - 2
Deron - 1
Gasol - 2
Nash - 1
Billups - 2
Parker - 1
David West - 2
Ray Allen - 2
Aldridge - 2
Brand - 2
Al Jefferson - 1

chicagowhitesox
01-04-2009, 08:54 PM
Superstars

Lebron- why is he even on here?
Kobe- first
Dwight- first
Wade- first
Dirk- first
Duncan- second nowadays
Iverson- first
Garnett- first
Pierce- second, because of his team
Yao- first
CP3- can be first, but better as a pass first playmaker


Stars
Carmelo- first
Tmac- lucky to be second these days
Vince- still first
Roy- blooming into a first kinda guy
Granger- first
Joe Johnson- first
Bosh- first
Amare- first
Boozer- first
Deron- clearly second
Gasol- second
Nash- second
Billups-second, he's more of a facilitator
Parker- first, which is odd for a pg
David West- firstish
Ray Allen- second
Aldridge- second
Brand- second this year
Al Jefferson- first

Sox Appeal
01-04-2009, 09:19 PM
1. Hey, look, there is Carmelo Anthony at second and I didn't need 82games.com to tell me he is clutch.

2. Carmelo is shooting 6% better in the clutch from the field, 24% better from three, 7% better from the line, and is getting less turnovers.

3. Carmelo is being just as clutch in double the amount of time.

Like I said, Carmelo has something to say about it.

BTW--Carmelo Anthony has made more game-winning (last second) jump-shots this season than Lebron James has in his entire career. Game. Set. Match.

I never said Carmelo wasn't a clutch player, or that he didn't have good numbers in the clutch, all I said was, that he isn't Lebron James. He (Lebron) is a better rebounder then Carmelo (he's actually the best rebounder in the NBA during 'clutch situations'), he's also averaging more assists, blocks, steals, and he gets to the line far more often then does Carmelo.

And Carmelo making more game winning-shots then Lebron has during his entire career doesn't say anything about how clutch Lebron is. If Carmelo was 'just as clutch' as Lebron, why are his numbers during clutch situations so inferior to Lebrons?

agnine
01-05-2009, 01:45 AM
Can everybody stop using these overcomplicated PERS and per48's, and just use their damn eyes for once.

oh, and please don't ever put Paul Pierce as a superstar. He's no better than Tmac, Vince or Brandon Roy. And remember that Carmelo is better than all four.

Kenny
01-05-2009, 01:49 AM
the moron that said lebron is a 2 please go away

PutMeInCoach
01-05-2009, 02:14 AM
I personally believe that you are always better off as a 2nd option because of the fact that if you are the 2nd that means someone on the team is better and that can only make your team better.

MELO 15
01-05-2009, 02:53 AM
I never said Carmelo wasn't a clutch player, or that he didn't have good numbers in the clutch, all I said was, that he isn't Lebron James. He (Lebron) is a better rebounder then Carmelo (he's actually the best rebounder in the NBA during 'clutch situations'), he's also averaging more assists, blocks, steals, and he gets to the line far more often then does Carmelo.

And Carmelo making more game winning-shots then Lebron has during his entire career doesn't say anything about how clutch Lebron is. If Carmelo was 'just as clutch' as Lebron, why are his numbers during clutch situations so inferior to Lebrons?

You got that all wrong buddy, Melo leads all sf in the game in rebounds. And Im gonna kill all this noise, In order for you to be the 1st option, that would put you in the category of being the best player on your team. Example, MJ and Pippen, Jordan was the first option because he was the best player on that team, pippen was #2, but as soon as MJ left, who was the #1 option than, yes it was Pippen. In this case, Melo is the best player on that team, not billups. So if you still have something to argue about, then there's something wrong. :cool:

JordansBulls
01-05-2009, 11:08 AM
Superstars

Lebron- why is he even on here?
Kobe- first
Dwight- first
Wade- first
Dirk- first
Duncan- second nowadays
Iverson- first
Garnett- first
Pierce- second, because of his team
Yao- first
CP3- can be first, but better as a pass first playmaker


Stars
Carmelo- first
Tmac- lucky to be second these days
Vince- still first
Roy- blooming into a first kinda guy
Granger- first
Joe Johnson- first
Bosh- first
Amare- first
Boozer- first
Deron- clearly second
Gasol- second
Nash- second
Billups-second, he's more of a facilitator
Parker- first, which is odd for a pg
David West- firstish
Ray Allen- second
Aldridge- second
Brand- second this year
Al Jefferson- first

So Duncan is better as a 2nd option while KG, Dirk, Amare, Bosh and Al Jefferson are better as 1st options?
That's quite interesting.

ManRam
01-05-2009, 01:26 PM
Lebron: The best first option in the league, along with Paul, Wade, and Kobe.
First options:

Kobe: The best first option in the league, along with Paul, Wade, and LeBron.
CP3: The best first option in the league, along with LeBronl, Wade, and Kobe.
Wade: The best first option in the league, along with Paul, LeBron, and Kobe.
Iverson: Still one of the most dynamic scorers in the game.
Dirk: Great ball handler for a 7 footer. Can score a ton of ways.
Carmelo: Contraversial, but he is best when he is the go-to player, and he can score anywhere on the court. Gets a bad rep, but he is still a star. People forget he was a legit MVP candidate before he went done in 2006-2007.
Roy: dynamic is his name
Nash: people forget how great of a scorer he is, not to mention his obvious point guard skills
Joe Johnson: great play maker, most underrated star in the game
Billups: He's still got it. Great leader, facilitator, shooter, clutch shooter, etc.

Fringe First Options:

Duncan: can lead a team, but is better not being the go-to guy.
Garnett: Can be go-to, but I think is better when he isn't.
Pierce: Complements KG so well because he also is better of as a second option, but can take a game over and dominate when needed.
Deron: Not quite as dynamic as Paul or Roy, but he is a great leader, and the ball should always be in his hand. Not the shooter a number one option should be.

Second options:

Dwight: Never passes, even when he needs to, can only work in the low post, can only really score via dunking/lay ups. Not a creator. Turnover machine.
Yao: More of a go-to guy than Dwight, but not quite a first option. I don't know if he can take over games on a nightly basis.
Tmac: Used to be the definition of a number one option...now, even when healthy, he isn't as aggressive, and is far more passive than he used to be.
Vince: I think there's a reason he's never been on a great team.
Granger
Bosh
Amare: I think he's close to being a first option, but he isn't dynamic enough. Basically just a low post scorer, who can't create much for himself.
Boozer
Parker
David West
Aldridge
Brand: Certainly didn't look like it earlier this year
Al Jefferson

Third options:

Gasol: Needs a big, strong big man to compliment him. Can't dominate the front court on his own.
Ray Allen: He isn't the explosive and dynamic player he once was. Not just a shooter, but he isn't much more these days.

Gibby23
01-05-2009, 01:49 PM
Lebron- first
Kobe- first
Dwight- first
Wade- first
Dirk- first
Duncan- first option. Eventhough he is like second option on Spurs.
Iverson- DEFINITELY FIRST look what Detriot has done to him :(
Garnett- second option even back in Minny the guy only averaged 22ppg
Pierce- second option. Was about to leave Boston.
Yao- second option. Way to injured
CP3- FIRST OPTION ON EVERYTHING. This guy should always have the ball.



Carmelo- first option. Melo hasnt ascended yet into a superstar
Tmac- third option. Teams should get used to him missing half the season.
Vince- first/second option. I think Carter and Harris share and it works out.
Roy- first option.
Granger- first option. This STAT HO needs to find a better team
Joe Johnson- second option
Bosh- second option. Bosh 24pts 10rebs. And his team is worse than KNicks.
Amare- second option. I wanna be that Guy. YEA RIGHT
Boozer- second option. He just cant lead a team.
Deron- first option. The guy just needs the ball in his hands
Gasol- third option. Lakers proved that
Nash- first option. EVERYTHING should go thru Nash
Billups- second option. However, he should ALWAYS have the ball in his hands
Parker- second option
David West- second option
Ray Allen- third option.
Aldridge- third option
Brand- second option.
Al Jefferson- second option. Proof that u can get great stats on a bad team,


AND I CANT BELIEVE I JUST DID THIS LOL.
How did the Lakers prove that Gasol is a 3rd option? He is the second option on the Lakers and they are doing pretty good with that. They are 54-14 since getting Gasol.