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innovator
12-30-2008, 09:17 AM
MOST IMPROVED PLAYER
player should have played around the same number of minutes he played the previous season.
RIGHT EXAMPLE:
Devin Harris
07-08: 34 MPG 15.4 PPG
08-09: 36 MPG 23.7 PPG

WRONG EXAMPLE:
Marquis Daniels
07-08: 20.9 MPG 8.2 PPG
08-09: 35 MPG 16.1 PPG

COACH OF THE YEAR
coach should have coached the team with the same core as the previous season.
RIGHT EXAMPLE:
Byron Scott
06-07: 39-43 (starting 5- chandler,west,peja,mopete,cp3)
07-08: 56-26 (starting 5- chandler,west,peja,mopete,cp3)

WRONG EXAMPLE
Doc Rivers
06-07: 24-58 (starting 5- jefferson,gomes,pierce,wally,west)
07-08: 66-16 (starting 5- perkins,kg,pierce,allen,rondo)

NBA 6th MAN
player should come off the bench(or more times coming off the bench than starts) and play less than 30 minutes.
RIGHT EXAMPLE
Leandro Barbosa or other
07-08: 29 MPG 15.6 PPG

WRONG EXAMPLE
Manu Ginobili
07-08: 31 MPG 19.5 PPG

thoughts?

Rome
12-30-2008, 10:30 AM
Can't say I disagree but too bad it doesn't work that way.

cubulls
12-30-2008, 10:51 AM
Agreed :clap:

mitch91
12-30-2008, 10:51 AM
dont really agree with what your saying about coy but the rest of it is fine

cubulls
12-30-2008, 10:55 AM
dont really agree with what your saying about coy but the rest of it is fine

The reason Boston won is because of the additions of KG and Allen, not because of Doc Rivers "brilliant" coaching. He doesn't deserve the credit. Coach of the Year my ***...

innovator
12-30-2008, 11:02 AM
The reason Boston won is because of the additions of KG and Allen, not because of Doc Rivers "brilliant" coaching. He doesn't deserve the credit. Coach of the Year my ***...

exactly

zo#33
12-30-2008, 11:02 AM
I dont agree with MIP because if a players minutes has increased it would probably mean that he has improved

The Answer3
12-30-2008, 11:03 AM
dont really agree with what your saying about coy but the rest of it is fine

Doc Rivers is an average coach at best. Look at the talent he had on his team. And you're telling me he deserved COY? 3 all-stars, decent PG in Rondo, great role players like Posey etc.

I agree with the OP. Guys like Manu who basically get starters' minutes don't deserve to be the 6th man. The 6th man of the year award is useless that way. It should be given to a guy, who has an impact both offensively and defensively in a short period of time such as 20-25 MPG. And how he's able to change the game.

cubulls
12-30-2008, 11:09 AM
I dont agree with MIP because if a players minutes has increased it would probably mean that he has improved

Not necessarily. Daniels inherited more playing time due to Mike Dunleavy's injury.

JordansBulls
12-30-2008, 11:11 AM
MOST IMPROVED PLAYER
player should have played around the same number of minutes he played the previous season.
RIGHT EXAMPLE:
Devin Harris
07-08: 34 MPG 15.4 PPG
08-09: 36 MPG 23.7 PPG

WRONG EXAMPLE:
Marquis Daniels
07-08: 20.9 MPG 8.2 PPG
08-09: 35 MPG 16.1 PPG

COACH OF THE YEAR
coach should have coached the team with the same core as the previous season.
RIGHT EXAMPLE:
Byron Scott
06-07: 39-43 (starting 5- chandler,west,peja,mopete,cp3)
07-08: 56-26 (starting 5- chandler,west,peja,mopete,cp3)

WRONG EXAMPLE
Doc Rivers
06-07: 24-58 (starting 5- jefferson,gomes,pierce,wally,west)
07-08: 66-16 (starting 5- perkins,kg,pierce,allen,rondo)

NBA 6th MAN
player should come off the bench(or more times coming off the bench than starts) and play less than 30 minutes.
RIGHT EXAMPLE
Leandro Barbosa or other
07-08: 29 MPG 15.6 PPG

WRONG EXAMPLE
Manu Ginobili
07-08: 31 MPG 19.5 PPG

thoughts?

I actually like this and it makes sense.

bostncelts34
12-30-2008, 11:47 AM
The reason Boston won is because of the additions of KG and Allen, not because of Doc Rivers "brilliant" coaching. He doesn't deserve the credit. Coach of the Year my ***...

lol do you guys think its easy to hang a compelte overhaul as a coach? and win a champsionship the first year with them?

Look at the great phil jackson

Kobe,shaq,malone and payton. Dit they win?nope.

Its not easy to coach players like this, that quickly. Notice how much better boston is this year? it takes time. i dont agree with ur COY part. MIP and 6th man, definitly.

bostncelts34
12-30-2008, 11:50 AM
Doc Rivers is an average coach at best. Look at the talent he had on his team. And you're telling me he deserved COY? 3 all-stars, decent PG in Rondo, great role players like Posey etc.

I agree with the OP. Guys like Manu who basically get starters' minutes don't deserve to be the 6th man. The 6th man of the year award is useless that way. It should be given to a guy, who has an impact both offensively and defensively in a short period of time such as 20-25 MPG. And how he's able to change the game.

so byron scott deserved it with Paul,west,chandler and peja? lol

Your saying COY should be a coach of a team with ****** players that over achieves? makes no sense to me.

Every year the COY has a stacked team for the most part. when PJ won it, he had kobe and shaq. doc had the big 3. scott had his 4 guys. Popvich has had his big 4 and so on

SteveNash
12-30-2008, 11:59 AM
Hornets saw such an improvement because they were healthier.

And 2 minutes should really make a difference between Barbosa and Ginobili, though I agree that the 6th man should just be given out to crappy starters.

JIDsanity
12-30-2008, 12:17 PM
Agree

innovator
12-30-2008, 12:55 PM
lol do you guys think its easy to hang a compelte overhaul as a coach? and win a champsionship the first year with them?

Look at the great phil jackson

Kobe,shaq,malone and payton. Dit they win?nope.

Its not easy to coach players like this, that quickly. Notice how much better boston is this year? it takes time. i dont agree with ur COY part. MIP and 6th man, definitly.

but anyone who coaches the celtics last season would have won the championship too. and rivers was crap before

Durant is hype
12-30-2008, 01:07 PM
but anyone who coaches the celtics last season would have won the championship too. and rivers was crap before

That's the same logic you can use against the 04 Lakers.But back on topic , nice criteria for NBA awards it really makes sense.

innovator
12-30-2008, 01:12 PM
nope cuz the lakers didnt win in 04 so basically not anyone that coached the lakers would win it

LAcowBOMBER
12-30-2008, 01:14 PM
IDk about sixth man though. As long as thy come off the bench they should get it. I mean Manu played 2 more minutes than Barbosa

innovator
12-30-2008, 01:28 PM
yeah i dont think barbosa is a good example cuz he also played many minutes, maybe someone who plays less than 25 minutes per game and comes off the bench?

bostncelts34
12-30-2008, 01:50 PM
nope cuz the lakers didnt win in 04 so basically not anyone that coached the lakers would win it

lol the lakers had 4 future HOF'ers. Dont even give me that. Maybe hey didnt win it because of poor coaching?

NYMetros
12-30-2008, 01:52 PM
I don't quite understand the 6th man part, but the rest is good.

Hawkeye15
12-30-2008, 02:08 PM
I don't like setting rules for the awards. But i do think the system is flawed. How has Jerry Sloan never won a COY??? How did LeBron not win MVP last season? ROY is stats, period, vs how it affects a team.

Chronz
12-30-2008, 09:54 PM
We are in complete agreement, atleast with regards to the 6th man and the MIP. So many jackasses vote the guy who simply got more minutes..... which leads me to this.


I dont agree with MIP because if a players minutes has increased it would probably mean that he has improved
Not really, youd be surprised how rarely its the case.