PDA

View Full Version : Manny Pacquaio vs. Ricky Hatton, Who wins and Why?



garlicboy
12-29-2008, 01:51 PM
Manny Pacquaio and Ricky Hatton or scheduled to fight on May 2, 2009. I want to know who you think will win and why?

I am a Pacquaio fan and think Pacquiao will win because he will use his advantage that he has in every fight he had fought: Speed, quickness and stamina.

Speed: with his fists
Quickness: with his legs
Stamina: with his lungs and blood

Speed kills it is also the reason why Floyd Mayweather is so good.

Everybody knows about Manny's Speed and Quickness, but one area that I believe that Manny does not get credit is his notoriety. They say Manny is a freak when working out in the gym. Well credit his stamina for that. Scientifically, it means Manny has incredible oxygen carrying capacity in his RBC's, a high volume of RBC's, a high oxygen reserve on his RBC,'s, efficient cellular use of oxygen or a combination of all of the above.

Manny pounces on his opponents and never seems to tire. When people rest, Manny is all over them. The guy is like a machine.

Regardless of the prediction and who wins. I think it will be an exciting fight and a fight that pairs 2 fighters that are pretty even against each other.

lakers4sho
01-07-2009, 11:31 PM
Manny wins 9th round TKO

UK Bull
01-10-2009, 01:25 PM
Hatton win by KO

G2BOAT
01-14-2009, 11:02 PM
Hatton will win by KO in the 10th.

There's only oneeeeee Ricky Hatton!

G2BOAT
01-14-2009, 11:10 PM
Ricky Hatton’s fight against Manny Pacquiao will go ahead as planned. Hatton’s lawyer Gareth Williams was dismayed to read reports of a purse dispute online. Hatton and Pacquiao had agreed to split the proceeds 50-50. Speaking to Setanta Sports News Willaims said that “as far as Ricky’s concerned he’s fighting Manny Pacquiao”. He said: “There’s been no suggestion that there wasn’t an agreement. Everything is geared up to confirming the fight on May 2nd. My own view is if a problem arises you pick up the phone and speak to the other parties. You don’t conduct business over the internet. The fight is on until such time we’re officially told there’s a problem. Then I’ll decide what we’re going to do about it."

G2BOAT
01-14-2009, 11:23 PM
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=18369&more=1

Old time fight fans can smell a war brewing from miles away, and the match-up between Manny Pacquiao against Ricky Hatton fits that category. The image of Pacquiao and Hatton circling each other like hungry lions makes the mouth water. Throughout their careers, both have given their all in the ring to the delight of the fans. Manny and Ricky come to fight, and everyone knows it.

When their names are on a fight card, there’ll be action, blood, and someone going down. Now that they are on the same card, anticipation of an inevitable war is irresistible. What makes this contest even more exciting is that both fighters are in their prime at 30, and have forward moving, aggressive styles. Simply put, there’s going to be an explosion when they collide in what could be one of the best fights of 2009.

Both fighters have done a lot to improve the image of boxing and are popular outside, as well as inside the ring. Ricky is constantly upbeat and has a great sense of humor. He genuinely likes people and seldom utters disrespectful words about his opponents. Manny, who was recently named best pound for pound fighter, remains affable and even humble in spite of this great accomplishment. He loves his country, is very religious, and always shows great respect to his trainer, Freddie Roach. Ricky and Manny also possess the characteristics of courage and determination in large quantities. The mutual popularity of both fighters explains one estimate of a 100,000 live gate were the fight held in Wembly or Manila instead of Vegas. There’s also been a remarkable lack of hate-mongering from fanatical fans on either side.

Both of these veterans have awesome backgrounds with a wealth of experience against highly rated opponents. Manny has 53 fights under his belt (48-3-2) against punishing brawlers including Morales, Marquez, Diaz, Barrera, and most recently, de la Hoya. Ricky’s resume lists 46 bouts against the likes of Castillo, Collazo, and Urango with an upset victory over Kostya Tszyu, and only 1 loss to undefeated pound for pound great, Floyd Mayweather Jr. This wealth of acquired ring savvy will soon become evident as the battle unfolds. Seasoned pros, Hatton and Pacquiao will enter the ring with strategic fight plans. However, this is boxing; if the game plan doesn’t pan out, watch for flexibility under fire by both opponents.

Compounding this combined experience is the fact that both fighters have two of the best trainers in the business in their respective corners. Freddie Roach, who has bonded with Manny to the point of being a surrogate uncle or big brother, will be coaxing Pacquiao to exploit any weaknesses in Hatton’s defense, and patiently urging Manny to capitalize on his superior speed and natural ability. But Ricky will also have the asset of Floyd Mayweather Sr. in his corner. A shrewd old boxing sage, Mayweather Sr. has been a positive contribution to Ricky’s style. His defensive training techniques were exhibited in Hatton’s last outing against Paulie Malignaggi, when Ricky began picking his spots more carefully, and keeping his hands up on the way in.

There are also pluses and minuses in both camps and styles, which make it difficult to determine which fighter has the advantage. Pacman is the odds favorite right now, but not by much. Most would agree Manny has faster hands and better footwork. Nevertheless, Ricky is probably the stronger fighter, and at 140, he’s fighting at his best weight. According to Teddy Atlas, Hatton telegraphs his punches and throws from too far out. That might be true, but on the inside, the Hit Man is deadly, using his shoulders, elbows, hips, and torso to set up upper cuts and hooks to the body, while throwing additional shots from unorthodox angles. Both fighters have the capability to KO their opponent; Hatton has 32 KOs, Manny has 36, nothing to sneer at on either side.

Pacquiao is dangerous with either hand, but he’s not difficult to hit, because he likes moving forward. Unlike Hatton, Manny can punch effectively while back peddling, but he hates moving backward. Manny’s aggressive style is also bound to cause some toe-to-toe explosions, testing the chins of both fighters. The defining factor may be Hatton’s ability to mix it up on the inside. The Hit Man will need tremendous strength to wear down the slick, fast moving Pacquiao, who has repeatedly proven his ability to take a punch. Nevertheless, Ricky will be able apply a lot more pressure than the aging de la Hoya, and his work output has improved, probably the result of Mayweather Sr.’s prompting. Ricky’s greatest challenge will be to avoid getting tagged on the way in.

Neither Manny nor Ricky is a one punch banger. Rather, they are both vicious boxer-punchers, who methodically break down their opponents through constant pressure over several rounds. Manny can be expected to show up in tip-top condition, and Freddie Roach has expressed confidence that Hatton will run out of gas in the later rounds. However, such an assumption on Freddie’s part could prove dangerous. Hatton is slower than Pacquiao, but he is still relatively fast. He will also have good stamina, provided he leaves the Guinness alone during his 12-week, pre-fight training routine. In the end, it could simply become a test of wills. If so, it’s hard to imagine either one of these determined warriors whining on his stool. Get ready for one hell of a war!

G2BOAT
01-14-2009, 11:25 PM
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=18338&more=1

The eagerly anticipated mega-fight is not set to take place until the summer, and Ricky Hatton will not begin serious training for the clash until February - after engaging on a family cruise - but already "The Hitman's" trainer Floyd Mayweather Senior has gone on record saying his man will not only win - but may well do so by stoppage.

Talking to The Manila Bulletin, Floyd Senior said he also has already worked out "A whole lot of strategy" for the May 2nd light-welterweight showdown that has got the fans salivation with excitement.. A win for Hatton, 30, would be sensational enough - a stoppage victory over the reigning pound-for-pound king, also 30, would be absolutely spectacular. And the wise old trainer says he believes there is a good chance that is exactly the way Ricky will achieve victory.

"I believe that Ricky Hatton can stop Manny Pacquiao, " Floyd Senior said. "The best man will win on that night but it's my man who's going to be the best man that night."

A bold statement to be sure, especially considering how awesome Pacquiao has looked in his last few fights - particularly last time out, against the much bigger Oscar De la Hoya. It is this last fight that Mayweather Senior mentioned, but he says there is no way Hatton will meet the same fate as "The Golden Boy;" claiming that dehydration on the part of a weight drained Oscar partly led to "Pac-Man's" upset win on December 6th last year.

"Ricky will not go into that fight like De La Hoya, who was dehydrated," Floyd said. "I can't take that speed away from Pacquiao. But if there's one thing Ricky will take away from Pacquiao, it will be his jab. And Hatton is stronger than Pacquiao."

Mayweather feels Pacquiao's southpaw right jab was a major factor also in Manny's win over De La Hoya, and says he has ideas on how Hatton can take the weapon away from the Filipino come fight time. According to the Bulletin article, Floyd is now simply waiting for his fighter to begin training camp, so he can show him the ideas he has for a May 2nd game-plan.

Of course, Mayweather always talks a good fight, but it does seem he is particularly relishing this one. Can Hatton win? Maybe. Can he win by stoppage? That would surely be one of 2009's biggest sensations should it occur!

Havoc Wreaker
01-15-2009, 07:06 PM
Can't wait for this war....hopefully it's an all out war like with marquez barrera etc etc


Hopefully Manny comes out on top!

lakers4sho
01-15-2009, 08:48 PM
Should be a good fight. May (right?) seems like forever.

Padres Son
01-15-2009, 09:38 PM
Manny will win. Ricky is overrated and overhyped.

2009mvp
01-16-2009, 12:51 AM
^^No, no he's not. Go watch the Kos/Castillo fights and tell me he's overrated. Not to mention his domination of Malignagi not too long ago. Not saying he'll beat Pacquaio, but he's definitely not overrated.

Padres Son
01-16-2009, 12:15 PM
Well, I think people see his 45-1 record and think he's amongst the best fighters ever. Except a lot of those fights were creampuffs that he was fighting for years in the UK. He should have come to the US earlier and fought some better competition.

Yeah, he beat Castillo... but I wish he would have fought better competition in his prime -- Corrales, Juddah, Cotto, even De La Hoya -- where were those fights?

Pacman will destroy Hatton with his speed. We saw what happens when Hatton faces a much faster fighter and it wasn't pretty.

It might not matter anyway, because it looks like Hatton is about to walk away from the fight.

G2BOAT
01-17-2009, 01:24 AM
Well, I think people see his 45-1 record and think he's amongst the best fighters ever. Except a lot of those fights were creampuffs that he was fighting for years in the UK. He should have come to the US earlier and fought some better competition.

Yeah, he beat Castillo... but I wish he would have fought better competition in his prime -- Corrales, Juddah, Cotto, even De La Hoya -- where were those fights?

Pacman will destroy Hatton with his speed. We saw what happens when Hatton faces a much faster fighter and it wasn't pretty.

It might not matter anyway, because it looks like Hatton is about to walk away from the fight.

Hatton fought a quick fighter in Malignaggi and he destroyed him, and before that he fought Mayweather and for the first 6 rounds, before Cortez really started not letting them fight and took a bonus point away, it was a pretty competitive fight. And Hatton last 8 fights (excluding Lazcano) he has fought the best and what they have offered him. So to say he has fought a bunch of creampuffs is just silly when you look at the resume Tszyu, Maussa, Collazo, Urango, Castillo, Mayweather Jr, and Malignaggi.

dre1990
01-17-2009, 06:45 PM
Manny win by KO

ee
01-18-2009, 01:48 PM
Manny by KO

HOZ THE KNICK
01-19-2009, 10:43 AM
Mayweather is the greatest

Raps18-19 Champ
01-19-2009, 09:34 PM
why wait till may?

Manny didnt even get hurt in dec.

I would have fought in march

NYKnickFanatic
01-21-2009, 03:02 PM
It would be a hell of a fight, but Manny would win.

Too bad the fight is called off though.


The proposed May 2 showdown between Manny Pacquiao and junior welterweight champ Ricky Hatton is off, according to representatives for both fighters.

SOURCE (http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3849386)

garlicboy
01-21-2009, 05:05 PM
Fight off, but I think it's posturing. Here's food for thought about why Manny deserves 60-40 besides being the best and biggest draw out there, his fans do have dollars to back his play.

"Manny Pacquiao's fans have $$$. MILLIONS OF FILIPINO AMERICANS, Filipino Canadians, Filipino's in the Middle East, Australia and Europe work in healthcare and other white collar jobs. Every hospital in America has a Filipino nurse working. As a travel nurse I have seen them in every state that I have traveled to as a travel nurse. I've seen Mothers, daughters and sons working as nurses or healthcare workers in the same hospital and ALL are Pacquiao fans.
I think people need to be educated about Pacquiao's FILIPINO AMERICAN FANS!!! They are everywhere. There is a reason why Pacquaio has more fans in Las Vegas when he fights. It's not Filipinos from the Philippines, but Filipino Americans coming out in thousands. There are MILLIONS of Filipinos in America, and as a nurse I have watched Manny's fights in various states with my Filipino American workers.
Ricky Hatton has thousands of British fans, but Manny also has MILLIONS OF FILIPINO AMERICANS WITH BUYING POWER!!!"

ifhmondays
01-21-2009, 08:47 PM
Hatton win by decision

Padres Son
01-21-2009, 08:47 PM
Fight off, but I think it's posturing. Here's food for thought about why Manny deserves 60-40 besides being the best and biggest draw out there, his fans do have dollars to back his play.

"Manny Pacquiao's fans have $$$. MILLIONS OF FILIPINO AMERICANS, Filipino Canadians, Filipino's in the Middle East, Australia and Europe work in healthcare and other white collar jobs. Every hospital in America has a Filipino nurse working. As a travel nurse I have seen them in every state that I have traveled to as a travel nurse. I've seen Mothers, daughters and sons working as nurses or healthcare workers in the same hospital and ALL are Pacquiao fans.
I think people need to be educated about Pacquiao's FILIPINO AMERICAN FANS!!! They are everywhere. There is a reason why Pacquaio has more fans in Las Vegas when he fights. It's not Filipinos from the Philippines, but Filipino Americans coming out in thousands. There are MILLIONS of Filipinos in America, and as a nurse I have watched Manny's fights in various states with my Filipino American workers.
Ricky Hatton has thousands of British fans, but Manny also has MILLIONS OF FILIPINO AMERICANS WITH BUYING POWER!!!"I completely agree. Manny Pacquiao is THE biggest celebrity in the Philippines. Aside from being a better fighter (IMO), he is the bigger worldwide celebrity. He deserves 60% for this fight. He only took like 32% for his fight with De La Hoya.

camador22
01-22-2009, 01:48 PM
Fight off, but I think it's posturing. Here's food for thought about why Manny deserves 60-40 besides being the best and biggest draw out there, his fans do have dollars to back his play.

"Manny Pacquiao's fans have $$$. MILLIONS OF FILIPINO AMERICANS, Filipino Canadians, Filipino's in the Middle East, Australia and Europe work in healthcare and other white collar jobs. Every hospital in America has a Filipino nurse working. As a travel nurse I have seen them in every state that I have traveled to as a travel nurse. I've seen Mothers, daughters and sons working as nurses or healthcare workers in the same hospital and ALL are Pacquiao fans.
I think people need to be educated about Pacquiao's FILIPINO AMERICAN FANS!!! They are everywhere. There is a reason why Pacquaio has more fans in Las Vegas when he fights. It's not Filipinos from the Philippines, but Filipino Americans coming out in thousands. There are MILLIONS of Filipinos in America, and as a nurse I have watched Manny's fights in various states with my Filipino American workers.
Ricky Hatton has thousands of British fans, but Manny also has MILLIONS OF FILIPINO AMERICANS WITH BUYING POWER!!!"

I completely disagree with this statement. Hatton is the one who draws the bigger buying power with the UK behind him. There's no doubt Manny draws big buys but not nearly as close as Hatton. The purse should be 50/50 if not there should be no fight. From what I heard the fight has been canceled due to Mannys ignorance on the split. Manny would KO Hatton in the 10th if the fight were to occur.

Raps18-19 Champ
01-22-2009, 06:09 PM
I completely disagree with this statement. Hatton is the one who draws the bigger buying power with the UK behind him. There's no doubt Manny draws big buys but not nearly as close as Hatton. The purse should be 50/50 if not there should be no fight. From what I heard the fight has been canceled due to Mannys ignorance on the split. Manny would KO Hatton in the 10th if the fight were to occur.

cuz they all have money in UK. Philipines is a 3rd world country.

but if you only do north america, more people would watch pacquiao.

and pacman is better so he should get 60

NYKnickFanatic
01-23-2009, 06:36 PM
THE FIGHT IS BACK ON!

Manny wins by TKO. :)

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3854403


LOS ANGELES -- In a dramatic reversal of his position, pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao on Thursday night agreed to terms to face junior welterweight champion Ricky Hatton, Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told ESPN.com.

Raps18-19 Champ
01-23-2009, 06:38 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3854403

fights back on

NyYaNkEeS 91
01-24-2009, 05:04 PM
pacquaio by ko

Havoc Wreaker
01-28-2009, 12:55 AM
Can't Wait

lakerboy
01-29-2009, 01:59 PM
I'm Filipino, so naturally I'm rooting for the Pac. No predictions here! I haven't seen a lot of Hatton matches.

EDIT:

I DO NOT WANT TO WAIT UNTIL MAY!

Argh.

ULT WARRIOR408
01-29-2009, 03:20 PM
I THINK HATTON WINS PLUS IM SO SICK OF MANNY I THINK HE'S OVER RATED:mad:

2009mvp
01-30-2009, 02:17 PM
I THINK HATTON WINS PLUS IM SO SICK OF MANNY I THINK HE'S OVER RATED:mad:

I can actually see that. He's a great fighter and a great champion, but I still don't think he beat Marquez. That and the fact that I think a lot people underrate Mayweather saying Pacman would beat him easily. Personally I don't think Manny would stand a chance against Floyd.

stejay
02-03-2009, 05:54 AM
Pacquaio by KO. Hatton just hasnt got the class to stay with Pacquiao. I just really bummed tat mayweather has retired, that would be a great fight for the ages.

Rocco007
02-14-2009, 12:38 AM
I think Hatton is gong to eat too many punches...and I think if Manny figts smart, he will handle Hatton's power and speed remarkably easy as the fight moves along..A good action fight..Hatton is too tough to quit...Pacquaio by late rd corner stoppage..