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METS4LIFE1988
12-23-2008, 06:31 PM
Mark Teixeira’s agreement with the New York Yankees on Tuesday clears the way for the New York Mets to sign Derek Lowe, the free-agent pitcher who had been on the periphery of the Yankees’ shopping list. The Mets and Lowe are deep in negotiations, according to a source, and while an offer has not yet been made, the 35-year-old sinkerballer is the Mets’ prime target.

The Mets have rebuilt their bullpen with the signing of free-agent closers Francisco Rodriguez and J.J. Putz, but general manager Omar Minaya is still in the market for starting pitching to supplement incumbents Johan Santana, Mike Pelfrey and John Maine.

The Boston Red Sox had mild interest in Lowe, and losing out on Teixeira might prompt them to strongly consider bringing back Lowe for a second tour of duty in Boston. But indications from Red Sox sources point to less costly options than Lowe, who originally sought a five-year, $90 million deal but has scaled back his demands in recent weeks.

The Mets’ bargaining position also is enhanced by the fact that rehab coordinator Chris Correnti, who was brought on board to work with the Pedro Martinez, has trained Lowe for the last 11 years.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ge-lowemets122308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Red_Sox_89
12-23-2008, 06:34 PM
****.. New York teams are signing everyone I want

Tragedy
12-23-2008, 06:35 PM
Well, finally. A possible non NYY signing! :laugh2:

I've said for a while, Mets signing Lowe would make sense.

Run Gardner Run
12-23-2008, 06:36 PM
NY is cleaning house

KRod
Teixiera
Putz
Sabathia
Burnett
Swisher
Lowe

johnnylee722
12-23-2008, 06:45 PM
Yay... good move if they get him in a good contract...

anything above 4 years $64M would be disgusting

Give him a 3 year deal $42M with option for a 4th year at $16M

johnnylee722
12-23-2008, 06:46 PM
According to Yahoo's Gordon Edes, the Mets are deep in negotiations with free agent starter Derek Lowe. However, the Mets have yet to make an offer.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/12/mets-deep-in-ne.html

Just some back up

arkanian215
12-23-2008, 07:45 PM
0a

Mets4Life101
12-23-2008, 07:48 PM
Would be a great signing!

arkanian215
12-23-2008, 07:50 PM
Would be a great signing!

just dreadful. think about how many balls castillo and delgado have to get. omg theyre gonna be miserable and broken, or more broken. lowe would be good if we had a good defensive infield. id say we're average with wright and reyes balancing out delgado and castillo.

Mets4Life101
12-23-2008, 07:51 PM
just dreadful. think about how many balls castillo and delgado have to get. omg theyre gonna be miserable and broken, or more broken. lowe would be good if we had a good defensive infield. id say we're average with wright and reyes balancing out delgado and castillo.

who would u want to pitch for us instead of lowe?

grizz8884
12-23-2008, 08:01 PM
Please sign Lowe, please!

Tragedy
12-23-2008, 08:03 PM
who would u want to pitch for us instead of lowe?
Seems like he'd like Lowe, just get rid of Castillo. Most Met fans can share that sentiment.

sportwiz628
12-23-2008, 08:08 PM
We need Lowe/Sheets as both of them are #2

Any met fan that thihnks pelfrey is a #2 is on drugs since he has had only one great year and this is coming from a die hard met fan

CHRISDODGERS
12-23-2008, 08:13 PM
If he signs with the Mets... would there first round pick go to the Dodgers or Angels(K-Rod)???

ShinobiNYC
12-23-2008, 08:19 PM
Makes sense for that ballpark.

sportwiz628
12-23-2008, 08:20 PM
If he signs with the Mets... would there first round pick go to the Dodgers or Angels(K-Rod)???

angels

DRTRADE
12-23-2008, 08:36 PM
METS NEED MANNY, MANNY NEED THE METS.
METS NEED LOWE, LOWE WANT TO WIN,
METS NEED Freddy Garcia, FREDDY NEED RECOVER.
METS NEED Will Ohman, OHMAN WANT TO BE A METS.
METS NEED IVAN RODRIGUEZ, IVAN NEED TWO YEARS.

sportwiz628
12-23-2008, 08:48 PM
METS NEED MANNY, MANNY NEED THE METS.
METS NEED LOWE, LOWE WANT TO WIN,
METS NEED Freddy Garcia, FREDDY NEED RECOVER.
METS NEED Will Ohman, OHMAN WANT TO BE A METS.
METS NEED IVAN RODRIGUEZ, IVAN NEED TWO YEARS.

WHY DO THE METS NEED IVAN? WE HAVE BETTER NEEDS THEN GETTING HIM

(no reason to right in caps)

DodgerBlue2008
12-23-2008, 08:54 PM
I always liked Lowe and am sorry to see him go (even though it appears he doesn't want to be in LA anymore). I wish him luck in the rest of his career, but I'm going to hate havin to watch the Dodgers face him everytime they face the Mets.

vick27m
12-23-2008, 09:06 PM
ohman signed with the braves didnt he

Uncle Funster
12-23-2008, 09:09 PM
Lowe to the Metros is a great move for them. He's way better in the NL, can take the pressure after playing with Boston and LA in big games, is an unbreakable workhorse, and is a high-character guy who puts the team first. great move. I would have preferred him over AJ.

liljoecapp
12-23-2008, 09:19 PM
Santana Lowe Maine Pelfrey Niese "i like that?"

sportwiz628
12-23-2008, 09:22 PM
We can then order an order of Lowe Maine at a Chineese Resteraunt :p

johnnylee722
12-23-2008, 09:27 PM
just dreadful. think about how many balls castillo and delgado have to get. omg theyre gonna be miserable and broken, or more broken. lowe would be good if we had a good defensive infield. id say we're average with wright and reyes balancing out delgado and castillo.

Castillo glove is very good his range just isn't great. Delgado is a ******* at first base but his defense really improved in the 2nd half when his bat did.

Our defense in our infield is one of our strong point IMO

johnnylee722
12-23-2008, 09:27 PM
We can then order an order of Lowe Maine at a Chineese Resteraunt :p

BOOOOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOO

johnnylee722
12-23-2008, 09:28 PM
Santana Lowe Maine Pelfrey Niese "i like that?"

Not bad...

And forget about Ollie and instead sign Beimel and Wiggy.

And if the Wilpons want to be a serious team, they will go after Manny.

But pitching is the main thing, Manny not so much

johnnylee722
12-23-2008, 09:31 PM
METS NEED MANNY, MANNY NEED THE METS.
METS NEED LOWE, LOWE WANT TO WIN,
METS NEED Freddy Garcia, FREDDY NEED RECOVER.
METS NEED Will Ohman, OHMAN WANT TO BE A METS.
METS NEED IVAN RODRIGUEZ, IVAN NEED TWO YEARS.

Oh Dr.Trade, I've been a little lonely without your craziness around here...

Mets don't need Manny
Garcia might not pitch next season
And Ivan is old as balls

The L Train
12-23-2008, 09:35 PM
Please sign Lowe, please!



then sign sheets and manny, and we have a team

Ender
12-23-2008, 09:37 PM
Cool. We torched Lowe in the NLCS.

Seamhead
12-23-2008, 09:38 PM
Cool. We torched Lowe in the NLCS.

And this is significant how?

johnnylee722
12-23-2008, 09:43 PM
then sign sheets and manny, and we have a team

Why stop there? Sign Hudson and Beimel :rolleyes:

johnnylee722
12-23-2008, 09:44 PM
Cool. We torched Lowe in the NLCS.

We torched Hamels once...

phlp_bj
12-23-2008, 11:17 PM
Yahoo! - The Mets and Derek Lowe are deep in negotiations, according to a source, and while an offer has not yet been made, he is highly coveted by the club.

The Boston Red Sox had mild interest in Lowe, and losing out on Teixeira might prompt them to strongly consider bringing back Lowe for a second tour of duty in Boston. But indications from Red Sox sources point to less costly options than Lowe, who originally sought a five-year, $90 million deal but has scaled back his demands in recent weeks.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ge-lowemets122308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

nybigjg
12-23-2008, 11:20 PM
I hope the Mets get Lowe; it'll keep him away from Boston. :shrug:

LeoGetz
12-23-2008, 11:33 PM
Only 5 hours later than the other thread

Mets deep in negotiations for Derek Lowe (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306957)

jacquewho?
12-23-2008, 11:33 PM
Would you stop post whoring threads?

johnnylee722
12-23-2008, 11:39 PM
already a thread.

but Omar is a genius, he'll get a great deal done.

dx371
12-23-2008, 11:48 PM
praying....lowe would really make the rotation from questionable to solid

phlp_bj
12-23-2008, 11:49 PM
im sorry. didnt see the other thread

MetsFan28
12-24-2008, 12:19 AM
Santana Lowe Maine Pelfrey Niese "i like that?"


Probably will be Santana, Lowe, Garcia/Perez, Pelf, Maine

R,L,R,L,R

Maine a number 5. Wow.

johnnylee722
12-24-2008, 12:26 AM
Well apparently the Wilpons won't let Omar go after Manny.

So get Lowe and let Niese have the #5
Sign Orlando Hudson
Kill Castillo
Sign Beimel

Johan-Lowe-Pelfrey-Niese-Maine
Frankie-JJ-Dirty-Beimel-Green-Feliciano-Stokes
Reyes-Hudson-Wright-Delgado-Beltran-Church-Murphy/Tatis-Schneider/Castro
Castro/Schneider-Tatis/Murphy-Reed-Evans-A Rey

Red_Sox_89
12-24-2008, 12:49 AM
im sorry. didnt see the other thread

You're forgiven. You're usually the first person with half of the threads anyway

DJYankee
12-24-2008, 01:01 AM
nice for the mets

oak2455
12-24-2008, 01:08 AM
already a thread.

but Omar is a genius, he'll get a great deal done.

???? Omar Genius???? How:confused: please tell:confused:

NY_RedLine
12-24-2008, 01:10 AM
Where has omar been? I havent heard anything other than this lower rumor...

It would be sweet if they got him but I think we need hudson, and manny...

maybe the Muts should spend some of our money on players we want. Especially if people like me are going to be paying big bucks for ticket packs...

BTW Id like to think our SP's will be Johan, Sheets, Lowe, Maine, Pelfrey or niese. this lets us free up prospects for trade.

oak2455
12-24-2008, 01:16 AM
Where has omar been? I havent heard anything other than this lower rumor...

It would be sweet if they got him but I think we need hudson, and manny...

maybe the Muts should spend some of our money on players we want. Especially if people like me are going to be paying big bucks for ticket packs...

BTW Id like to think our SP's will be Johan, Sheets, Lowe, Maine, Pelfrey or niese. this lets us free up prospects for trade.

I dont know if you want Sheets they are saying he's not getting any offers because he's really hurt:)

johnnylee722
12-24-2008, 01:20 AM
???? Omar Genius???? How:confused: please tell:confused:

Frankie


JJ

Done, that was easy. And that was just this year.

johnnylee722
12-24-2008, 01:21 AM
Where has omar been? I havent heard anything other than this lower rumor...

It would be sweet if they got him but I think we need hudson, and manny...

maybe the Muts should spend some of our money on players we want. Especially if people like me are going to be paying big bucks for ticket packs...

BTW Id like to think our SP's will be Johan, Sheets, Lowe, Maine, Pelfrey or niese. this lets us free up prospects for trade.

He's been fixing the bullpen.

Now he is working on starters.

Ender
12-24-2008, 03:32 PM
And this is significant how?

Lowe in NLE + Phillies in NLE = More starts against Phillies in which to get a torching.


We torched Hamels once...

In the NLCS?

chinese_man_77
12-24-2008, 03:47 PM
Lowe in NLE + Phillies in NLE = More starts against Phillies in which to get a torching.



In the NLCS?

so lowe faces the phillies once in 2008 in which he goes 6.1 inning giving up 3 ER.... torched him?
Dont understand your logic with the playoffs having anything to do with starts during the reg season

Hamels vs the Mets last season 12 ip 8 ER.

johnnylee722
12-24-2008, 03:55 PM
In the NLCS?

Yes in the NLCS...

At Shea Stadium. When he went 5 innings gave up 9 hits and 5 runs.

liljoecapp
12-24-2008, 04:02 PM
loweeeeeeeeeeee

theWILPONSsuck
12-24-2008, 04:03 PM
Why does everyone seem to think LOWE is a great investment?
Look over these numbers:

Sheets
2004 12 14 2.7
2005 10 9 3.33
2006 6 7 3.82
2007 12 5 3.82
2008 13 9 3.09
53 44
LOWE
2004 14 12 5.42
2005 12 15 3.61
2006 16 8 3.63
2007 12 14 3.88
2008 14 11 3.24
68 60
GARLAND
2004 12 11 4.89
2005 18 10 3.5
2006 18 7 4.51
2007 10 13 4.23
2008 14 8 4.9
72 49
Give me the 29 year old Garland any day for less than Lowe. The NL will lower his ERA as it did for lowe after 2004. Garland can be had for about 10-11 mill which saves 3 mill per year .Trade Castllo and eat 9mill of the 18mil left which drops another 3 per year in the pot for left. sign hudson for 5 mill and youve fill 2 spots with the same money you would've gotten lowe for and one is a 29 year old # 2 starter. castillo will be gone which is a plus any day of the weak.
And if the Mets are so willing to invest an incentive laden deal on Pedro why not sheets? Look at the numbers! he has more complete games, shutouts, strikeouts & a lower era than LOWE, GARLAND OLIE & PEDRO and will probably sign a deal that requires him to stay on the mound as much as possible to vest. PS is 8 years younger than pedro.
Imagine a rotation under 30 with a bullpen to match

Santana 16-7
Garland 14-8
Maine 10-8
Pelfrey 13-11
Sheets 13-9
Niese
Parnell or Kunz
Stokes
Green or Feliciano
Putz
KROD

Reyes
Hudson
Beltran
Wright
Delgado
Tatis
Church
Schneider

Ideally the wilpons open the wallet and give manny a 3 year deal for 65 to 70 mill that is backloaded after delgado and wagners 25 million comes off next year the lineup would look like this:

Reyes
Beltran
Delgado
Manny
Wright
Church
Hudson
Schneider

THOUGHTS?

UofA
12-24-2008, 04:09 PM
Give me the 29 year old Garland any day for less than Lowe. The NL will lower his ERA as it did for lowe after 2004. Garland can be had for about 10-11 mill which saves 3 mill per year .Trade Castllo and eat 9mill of the 18mil left which drops another 3 per year in the pot for left. sign hudson for 5 mill and youve fill 2 spots with the same money you would've gotten lowe for and one is a 29 year old # 2 starter. castillo will be gone which is a plus any day of the weak.
And if the Mets are so willing to invest an incentive laden deal on Pedro why not sheets? Look at the numbers! he has more complete games, shutouts, strikeouts & a lower era than LOWE, GARLAND OLIE & PEDRO and will probably sign a deal that requires him to stay on the mound as much as possible to vest. PS is 8 years younger than pedro.
Imagine a rotation under 30 with a bullpen to match

Santana 16-7
Garland 14-8
Maine 10-8
Pelfrey 13-11
Sheets 13-9
Niese
Parnell or Kunz
Stokes
Green or Feliciano
Putz
KROD



No way Garland is a #2

jcphik
12-24-2008, 04:14 PM
Would be a great pickup for the Mets, and another player to take away from the Sox :)

dodgers07champs
12-24-2008, 04:23 PM
Are you serious? Jon Garland sucks. I feel sorry for any team that signs him.

grizz8884
12-24-2008, 04:26 PM
Are you serious? Jon Garland sucks. I feel sorry for any team that signs him.

Be careful, as it might be us (Dodgers) who will be signing Garland!

Ender
12-24-2008, 05:12 PM
so lowe faces the phillies once in 2008 in which he goes 6.1 inning giving up 3 ER.... torched him?
Dont understand your logic with the playoffs having anything to do with starts during the reg season

Hamels vs the Mets last season 12 ip 8 ER.

3 ER in 4 pitches = A torching.


Yes in the NLCS...

At Shea Stadium. When he went 5 innings gave up 9 hits and 5 runs.

I'm sorry, the Mets shellacked Cole in the NLCS? Um... doubtful. And impossible.