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Wake's Fastball
12-18-2008, 01:22 PM
Was talking Patriots with my brother yesterday and was preaching the "In Belichick and Pioli we trust" mantra when talking about the draft this upcoming year. We got to talking about the guys Pioli and Belichick have drafted, specifically the atrocities of the 2007 draft, and decided for the reputation they get as brilliant masterminds, their post-first round picks really haven't been that consistent over the years. We came up with 18 guys currently on the active roster or IR that BB and Pioli have drafted after the first round during their tenure out of the roughly 70 picks the pair have had.

Tom Brady- 6th round, 2000
Matt Cassel- 7th round, 2005
Shawn Crable- 3rd round, 2008
Stephen Gostkowski- 4th round, 2005
Jarvis Green- 4th round, 2002
Ellis Hobbs- 3rd round, 2005
Matt Light- 3rd round, 2001
Nick Kaczur- 3rd round, 2005
Dan Koppen, 5th round, 2003
Ryan O'Callaghan- 3rd round, 2006
Kevin O'Connell- 3rd round, 2008
Mike Richardson- 6th round, 2006
Bo Ruud- 6th round, 2008
James Sanders- 4th round, 2005
Matt Slater- 5th round, 2008
Le Kevin Smith- 6th round, 2006
David Thomas- 3rd round, 2006
Terrence Wheatley- 2nd round, 2008
Jonathan Wilhite- 4th round, 2008

We've snagged Light, Brady, Gostkowski and Koppen, who have been Pro-Bowlers, Hobbs, Sanders and Cassel who are all good NFL starters, and Kaczur, Green and (arguably) O'Callaghan are all solid players. With the jury still being out on O'Connell, Wheatley, Ruud, Crable and Wilhite, we could probably live without the rest of the players on the list.

This isn't to take away from what BB and Pioli have done over the years- to their credit, their track record with first-round picks has been exceptional (when Ben Watson is considered your worst out of nine generally-late first rounders, you're doing something right). They've found a ton of good role players in the UDFA market, and a large part of the team was built on great FA signings or trades by the two. Just a paradox I found interesting though.

12-18-2008, 05:21 PM
from BB's start up to and including 2007 draft the best analysis I saw had us at #3 in the league. I forget where I read it, but it was someplace solid. The Colts were rated as #1, and I believe the Steelers were #2.

The Intimidator
12-18-2008, 06:26 PM
We drafted Gostkowski in 2006, not 2005.

12-22-2008, 03:09 AM
We drafted Gostkowski in 2006, not 2005.

thanks stat boy :p