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G-Funk
12-15-2008, 05:41 PM
Wade is playing the best ball right now will Kobe keep him from scoring 20+pts or make him shoot a poor FG%? Or maybe Wade is playing too good, He sure looks like the best player in the NBA.










Place ur bets guys!

G-Funk
12-15-2008, 05:43 PM
I think Kobe will take on the challenge, come out and try to stop him at all cost. Im not going to put my life on it.

Lakers4ItAll
12-15-2008, 05:43 PM
Wade is playing great ball I doubt Kobe will shut him down but hopefully they can contain him enough as a team to get the win, which is all that really matter's.

superkegger
12-15-2008, 05:48 PM
Who cares, all that matters is the W. Wade can score 60 for all I care, all that matters is a lakers W

Jonathan2323
12-15-2008, 05:49 PM
D Wade has played bad the last two games. hope he gets out his funk tonight aganist the Bucks.

JordansBulls
12-15-2008, 05:52 PM
Wade is playing the best ball right now will Kobe keep him from scoring 20+pts or make him shoot a poor FG%? Or maybe Wade is playing too good, He sure looks like the best player in the NBA.


Place ur bets guys!


I don't think he would guard him, if he does then it wouldn't make sense. Because Why would it matter to him? Why would he focus on trying to shut down Wade in a season game when in the Finals he didn't focus on shutting down Pierce or Allen?

G-Funk
12-15-2008, 05:52 PM
Who cares, all that matters is the W. Wade can score 60 for all I care, all that matters is a lakers W

I care!:D it's entertaining. It just makes the game more interesting.

G-Funk
12-15-2008, 05:55 PM
I don't think he would guard him, if he does then it wouldn't make sense. Because Why would it matter to him? Why would he focus on trying to shut down Wade in a season game when in the Finals he didn't focus on shutting down Pierce or Allen?

He will guard him, he's out to prove something. Also he couldn't guard Rondo, Ray and Pierce all at the same time. Phil kept moving him around and they made the whole team pay.

b_rad23
12-15-2008, 05:59 PM
He will guard him, he's out to prove something. Also he couldn't guard Rondo, Ray and Pierce all at the same time. Phil kept moving him around and they made the whole team pay.

My bet is that Wade outplays Kobe but the Lakers win.

nygiants242
12-15-2008, 06:00 PM
it will be interesting to see

UrbanGenius
12-15-2008, 06:04 PM
Listen Kobe is not what you all think. I thought the finals would show that, but people dont like to call it how they see it.
Kobe is only a good defender so he can only stop (A.K.A. shutdown ala Ron-Ron, Tayshaun, Posey...) mediocre to B- offensive players. He cant stop anybody that is a B rated offensive player, espeically those who are physical. Those A rated guys fall out on him, so stop playin...

UrbanGenius
12-15-2008, 06:05 PM
pls read my post on the issue

MiamiHeat
12-15-2008, 06:06 PM
D Wade has played bad the last two games. hope he gets out his funk tonight aganist the Bucks.

yeah Wade has been playing bad the last 2 games, I'm also hoping he breaks out of his badness and be ready for Kobe :)

and I heard Kobe plans to wear his low top Kobe IV against us, watch them ankles Kobe :p

superkegger
12-15-2008, 06:10 PM
yeah Wade has been playing bad the last 2 games, I'm also hoping he breaks out of his badness and be ready for Kobe :)

and I heard Kobe plans to wear his low top Kobe IV against us, watch them ankles Kobe:p

really? thats cool, I was wondering when he was going to finally wear them. I would have thought he would do it Christmas day vs the celtics though. Cool.

Jonathan2323
12-15-2008, 06:14 PM
THe Lakers have way to much size and talent for the HEAT to win this game but you never know. D Wade might go off like he always does on nationally televised games.

never bet aganist D Wade. his belief is stronger than your doubt.

G-Funk
12-15-2008, 06:16 PM
Listen Kobe is not what you all think. I thought the finals would show that, but people dont like to call it how they see it.
Kobe is only a good defender so he can only stop (A.K.A. shutdown ala Ron-Ron, Tayshaun, Posey...) mediocre to B- offensive players. He cant stop anybody that is a B rated offensive player, espeically those who are physical. Those A rated guys fall out on him, so stop playin...

I have seen Kobe stop A+ players. How many times to you see him play a year? I see about 70+ games a year every year.

MiamiHeat
12-15-2008, 06:17 PM
really? thats cool, I was wondering when he was going to finally wear them. I would have thought he would do it Christmas day vs the celtics though. Cool.
yeah man read all about it


Eighteen months ago when Kobe Bryant met with Nike officials to discuss his next shoe, he gave Eric Avar, Nike's performance footwear creative director, one request: build the lowest basketball shoe ever.

"I pressed him on it," Avar said. "I was like, 'A real low? Like a soccer shoe?' And Kobe said, 'Yes. A true, genuine low top.'

"It was pretty remarkable. Here was the greatest basketball player in the world telling me that he didn't need all this stuff around his ankle. And he wanted to prove that to everyone from Nike to fellow NBA players to the consumer."

Bryant is expected to wear the new Kobe IV for the first time in a game on Dec. 19 against Miami.

The shoe is in part inspired by soccer shoes, as Bryant is avid soccer fan

source: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3761462

NYMetros
12-15-2008, 06:19 PM
I might be wrong, but Kobe hasn't been playing very great defense lately. I heard he has been taking way too many risks defensively and goes for the steal too often.

superkegger
12-15-2008, 06:22 PM
yeah man read all about it



source: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3761462

cool beans.


I might be wrong, but Kobe hasn't been playing very great defense lately. I heard he has been taking way too many risks defensively and goes for the steal too often.

yeah, him, ariza, and LO have a bet for most steals at the end of the season, which is just ****ing ********. He's always been a gambler, but now hes taking unnecessary chances. The Lakers D as a whole is pretty shoddy right now.

DET UNIT
12-15-2008, 06:23 PM
Wade will mash on him, Heat will win they look good and will get better more towards playoffs.

J$mo0th_3o5
12-15-2008, 06:23 PM
I'm going to the game :dance:

G-Funk
12-15-2008, 06:24 PM
^^^ cheer for Kobe! j/p

NYMetros
12-15-2008, 06:25 PM
cool beans.



yeah, him, ariza, and LO have a bet for most steals at the end of the season, which is just ****ing ********. He's always been a gambler, but now hes taking unnecessary chances. The Lakers D as a whole is pretty shoddy right now.

Well if Kobe does that against Wade then he will get burned. Maybe he will try to shut him down though and take less chances.

MiamiHeat
12-15-2008, 06:27 PM
the #1 and #2 SG of the League
going at it

:rock:

NYMetros
12-15-2008, 06:28 PM
the #1 and #2 SG of the League
going at it

:rock:

But the question is: Which SG is #1 and which is #2? :cool:

I'd say right now Wade is 1 and Kobe's 2.

MiamiHeat
12-15-2008, 06:30 PM
But the question is: Which SG is #1 and which is #2? :cool:

I'd say right now Wade is 1 and Kobe's 2.

lol didn't want to say it
lakers and heat fans are getting along right now pretty good in this thread
didn't wanna kill the chemistry we had going on lol :cool:

NYMetros
12-15-2008, 06:33 PM
lol didn't want to say it
lakers and heat fans are getting along right now pretty good in this thread
didn't wanna kill the chemistry we had going on lol :cool:

I have a tendency to do that a lot...:o

J$mo0th_3o5
12-15-2008, 06:34 PM
lol didn't want to say it
lakers and heat fans are getting along right now pretty good in this thread
didn't wanna kill the chemistry we had going on lol :cool:

:love:

madiaz3
12-15-2008, 06:44 PM
I don't think he would guard him, if he does then it wouldn't make sense. Because Why would it matter to him? Why would he focus on trying to shut down Wade in a season game when in the Finals he didn't focus on shutting down Pierce or Allen?

What? Honestly I don't know what you're getting at here, whatever it is, it's a reach.
What do you mean why does it matter, if it's going to win him the game why the hell wouldn't he? Seems like you're questioning his motivation to win.

JJ81
12-15-2008, 06:51 PM
Kobe will out perform Wade and the Lakers will win

hotpotato1092
12-15-2008, 07:07 PM
you can't shut down wade, you can only hope to contain him. Kobe may be the best perimeter defender in the league, I think he's on the Jordan level, but no one man can shut down wade. However on the other side, there is no way wade can even contain Kobe. Wade isn't in Kobe's league defensively and IMO is a slightly worse offensive player. Combine that with the Lakers better supporting cast and I'd say the lakers will win. Kobe is simply to competitive to allow his team to lose to a guy like Wade or LeBron, he doesn't want there to be any doubt about who the league's best player is.

cahawk
12-15-2008, 07:49 PM
There is no doubt who is the best player in the NBA:
Lebron James

Wade & kobe are probably a draw, with neither playing good defense.
kobe's matador defense cannot possibly shut Wade down.
Laker's have most talent in the NBA & should have no problem with Miami.

Hawkeye15
12-15-2008, 07:52 PM
Wade will outplay Kobe head to head easy. He has to for his team to win. The Lakers, will just dump it into their 2 7' players, and the Heat will have no answer. I would expect a quiet game from Kobe, and a big game from Wade.

Hawkeye15
12-15-2008, 07:53 PM
you can't shut down wade, you can only hope to contain him. Kobe may be the best perimeter defender in the league, I think he's on the Jordan level, but no one man can shut down wade. However on the other side, there is no way wade can even contain Kobe. Wade isn't in Kobe's league defensively and IMO is a slightly worse offensive player. Combine that with the Lakers better supporting cast and I'd say the lakers will win. Kobe is simply to competitive to allow his team to lose to a guy like Wade or LeBron, he doesn't want there to be any doubt about who the league's best player is.

Kobe is the best perimeter defender in the NBA?? On Jordan's level?? Wow. Put the koolaid down the drain.

PippensBulls
12-15-2008, 08:04 PM
There is no doubt who is the best player in the NBA:
Lebron James

Wade & kobe are probably a draw, with neither playing good defense.
kobe's matador defense cannot possibly shut Wade down.
Laker's have most talent in the NBA & should have no problem with Miami.

and the premises that your argument is based on are...

...yeah.

Master Mind
12-15-2008, 08:06 PM
Classic head to head match-up

x_notorious
12-15-2008, 08:24 PM
Kobe won't shut down Wade, no one can. You can say that about Kobe as well. And as a Laker fan, I view Kobe's defense as VASTLY overrated. He sags off way too much. When he focuses only on defense though, watch out. He is like the Asomugha/Bailey of the NBA. But that rarely happens, only time I saw that was in the Olympics.

It will be fun to watch, both players will probably score over 25 points. But in the end, Bryant's Giants will be the biggest factor in this game and win it for them.

L@ker4Life
12-15-2008, 08:33 PM
Wade will outplay Kobe...because he has to in order to make the game competitive.

Lakers will win the game relatively easily. Wade is beastly this year...he is the Kobe of '04 all the talent in the world with no supporting cast.

b_rad23
12-15-2008, 08:34 PM
Watch out for Joel Anthony.

PippensBulls
12-15-2008, 08:42 PM
Kobe won't shut down Wade, no one can. You can say that about Kobe as well. And as a Laker fan, I view Kobe's defense as VASTLY overrated. He sags off way too much. When he focuses only on defense though, watch out. He is like the Asomugha/Bailey of the NBA. But that rarely happens, only time I saw that was in the Olympics.

It will be fun to watch, both players will probably score over 25 points. But in the end, Bryant's Giants will be the biggest factor in this game and win it for them.

I don't think Kobe's defense is overrated. His defense is one of the best we have in the league. He just doesn't try to exert too much defensively b/c he wants to stay fresh offensively.

x_notorious
12-15-2008, 08:47 PM
I don't think Kobe's defense is overrated. His defense is one of the best we have in the league. He just doesn't try to exert too much defensively b/c he wants to stay fresh offensively.

His defense is one of the best in the league, when he WANTS to play defense. He has the ability to do it, but doesn't do it every single game. Who the hell can average 24+ points per game and play top notch defense? That will wear the crap out of you. Imagining doing that in 82 games + playoffs. Kobe won't do that, especially since he is no longer 20 something years old.

He gambles a lot defensively. You can see that game in and game out. Always trying to jump the lanes or a pass. Sometimes it works, but at times it doesn't.

One thing that I don't like about his defense though is that he sags off way too much on the offensive player leaving for open jump shots (hence why I think it is overrated)

Catfish1314
12-15-2008, 08:50 PM
Not a chance. Kobe's a great defender but his defense hasn't been as top notch as usual this season.

Besides, the term "shut down" is used too loosely. Ron Artest played some of the best defense I've ever seen him play on Wade earlier this season. Gave him fits. But he still scored something like 23 points. Kobe is still the focal point of the Lakers offense and is hassled too much with scoring to be on the level defensively of guys like Artest. He definitely could be though.

hotpotato1092
12-15-2008, 08:51 PM
Kobe is the best perimeter defender in the NBA?? On Jordan's level?? Wow. Put the koolaid down the drain.

I'm a knicks fan so it's not like I'm a laker homer (like 80% of psd), I really think he's on jordan's level in terms of perimeter D, Artest may be a better defender than him but if Kobe focused more on defense than on scoring Kobe would be ahead.

Hawkeye15
12-15-2008, 08:57 PM
I'm a knicks fan so it's not like I'm a laker homer (like 80% of psd), I really think he's on jordan's level in terms of perimeter D, Artest may be a better defender than him but if Kobe focused more on defense than on scoring Kobe would be ahead.

Well, Jordan didn't have to "concentrate" on defense, he just did it. And he still was the most dominant offensive player. That is the difference, and why I jump anyone who compares Kobe to MJ. It is a flat out BS comparison. Artest, Battier, Bowen, Bell, all better perimeter defenders easily. Kobe is an overrated defender. I am not calling him bad, or even average defensively, but he is not an all NBA defender, and that award has become a joke over the past 10 years.

Vinny642
12-15-2008, 09:01 PM
Uh-oh big game can't wait.

Lost Art
12-15-2008, 09:06 PM
- Wade will have better numbers - cause frankly he's playing out there by himself much like Kobe was a couple years back.
- Kobe's team will win
- Really whether a guy like Kobe or Wade have an off night is up to him. A player that talented offensively can go off on whoever guards them, its just a matter if he is "on" or not that night

Jonathan2323
12-15-2008, 11:09 PM
Wade is playing horrible right now(last 3 games). i have a bad feeling about this game.

Brooke
12-15-2008, 11:20 PM
I saw the game tonight he didnt look good at all

I know one thing: Kobe vs Wade will be fun to watch

superkegger
12-15-2008, 11:24 PM
It should be a good matchup, because both tend to get up for these types of games. Whether they'll admit it or not.

Jonathan2323
12-15-2008, 11:30 PM
^i read the funniest story ever in your sig:laugh:

juggla53
12-15-2008, 11:30 PM
Listen Kobe is not what you all think. I thought the finals would show that, but people dont like to call it how they see it.
Kobe is only a good defender so he can only stop (A.K.A. shutdown ala Ron-Ron, Tayshaun, Posey...) mediocre to B- offensive players. He cant stop anybody that is a B rated offensive player, espeically those who are physical. Those A rated guys fall out on him, so stop playin...


You know theres a reason why guys like bruce bowen, tayshaun prince and james posey can put the clamps on the other teams best player. BECAUSE they arent their teams #1 option and they arent haveing the ball go through them on every possesion. Peirce, Wade, and lebron arent out there stopping eachother either because to do so would require so much energy and would surley be draining over 48 min. Thats why they have what we call deffensive specialists, guys who can go out and be physical with and expend the neccesarry energy in order to contain guys like Peirce, Wade, Kobe, Lebron etc... because they are not crucial parts of the offense and expanding as much energy on that side of the ball. Theres a reason that guys at that caliber often do not guard one another.

Brooke
12-15-2008, 11:34 PM
It should be a good matchup, because both tend to get up for these types of games. Whether they'll admit it or not.

Yep both will up to the challenge, it should be fun

kswissdaf
12-15-2008, 11:41 PM
I cant watch it cause ill be in disney world :(:mad::cry::sigh::violin::sad2::bang::faint::ouch ::shrug::bs:

Hotone1401
12-16-2008, 12:00 AM
Kobe is a really overrated defender so he won't do much to cover Wade. He gambles way too much and always gets beat by his man. I watch every Laker game and Kobe is constantly calling for help D. The Laker team is basically out there on defense to keep Kobe from looking bad on D or he gets mad. I'm a Laker fan but I'm not blind to see the flaws in Kobe's game. Plus, it takes a team to contain a player like Wade. Right now, Kobe's game is really declining and he needs to look to add more muscle before he loses the explosion he use to have. Lebron is the best player in the league by far and Wade is #2 right now.

still1ballin
12-16-2008, 12:26 AM
Kobe is a really overrated defender so he won't do much to cover Wade. He gambles way too much and always gets beat by his man. I watch every Laker game and Kobe is constantly calling for help D. The Laker team is basically out there on defense to keep Kobe from looking bad on D or he gets mad. I'm a Laker fan but I'm not blind to see the flaws in Kobe's game. Plus, it takes a team to contain a player like Wade. Right now, Kobe's game is really declining and he needs to look to add more muscle before he loses the explosion he use to have. Lebron is the best player in the league by far and Wade is #2 right now.

All I had to do was read the first 6 words of your post and I already know its a "FAIL"

8 Time Defensive Team and he is an overated defender? Get your facts straight.

LA_Raiders
12-16-2008, 01:15 AM
No problem....

G-Funk
12-16-2008, 01:25 AM
Kobe overrated this season yes! he still handles anybody during crunch time.

G-Funk
12-16-2008, 01:30 AM
There is no doubt who is the best player in the NBA:
Lebron James
Wade & kobe are probably a draw, with neither playing good defense.
kobe's matador defense cannot possibly shut Wade down.
Laker's have most talent in the NBA & should have no problem with Miami.

WTF does Lebron have to do with this thread? Seriously...

EddieB
12-16-2008, 02:43 AM
I haven't thought of it yet, dont really care, Heat suck

NFLNBA
12-16-2008, 03:44 AM
Kobe is what a 13 year vet now? Wade is still a pup compared to Kobe and its sad for him that Kobe is still at there level! I can GARENTEE you that Lebron and Wade wil not have a more successful career then Kobe. While they all 3 are great athletes you wont be-able to fly like that forever just ask Kobe! But Kobe is by far the better shooter, has the better jumper, better 3 point shot, by far the best post footwork then any player in the world, his work ethic is second to none, and when he wants plays better defense then any of them......did you see the Olympics? Right now Kobe isnt the old Kobe because he doesnt need to be......he doesnt have to score 35 a night, he jsut needs to be a leader and make his teamates better. Lebron and Wade both need great nights for there teams to win just like Kobe and the Lakers 3 years ago.

Lebron23
12-16-2008, 07:49 AM
I can see Wade dropping 40 points againts Kobe, who's not even the best defender in the SG position.

Lakers will still win this game because of their size, and height advantage, and they have one of the most talented bench in the league right now.

Faneik
12-16-2008, 08:26 AM
Forget about it

SouljahPhil...
12-16-2008, 08:29 AM
Kobe is what a 13 year vet now? Wade is still a pup compared to Kobe and its sad for him that Kobe is still at there level! I can GARENTEE you that Lebron and Wade wil not have a more successful career then Kobe. While they all 3 are great athletes you wont be-able to fly like that forever just ask Kobe! But Kobe is by far the better shooter, has the better jumper, better 3 point shot, by far the best post footwork then any player in the world, his work ethic is second to none, and when he wants plays better defense then any of them......did you see the Olympics? Right now Kobe isnt the old Kobe because he doesnt need to be......he doesnt have to score 35 a night, he jsut needs to be a leader and make his teamates better. Lebron and Wade both need great nights for there teams to win just like Kobe and the Lakers 3 years ago.

What's garentee??

As a lakers fans I think when its all said and done lebron will surpass kobe and he is still in a younger age...LBJ has already broken records in points set by kobe before on his earlier age..I think as time pass by the jump shot and 3pt shot of LBJ will greatly improved...he's the next generation and succesor of jordan-kobe-lebron...

I don't think so..LBJ has much improved supporting cast than last year...They are at the top 3 together with the C's and Lakers...

SouljahPhil...
12-16-2008, 08:30 AM
I'm predicting 25-35 points from Dwade...

jimbobjarree
12-16-2008, 09:16 AM
go Wade

Hotone1401
12-16-2008, 02:42 PM
Kobe is what a 13 year vet now? Wade is still a pup compared to Kobe and its sad for him that Kobe is still at there level! I can GARENTEE you that Lebron and Wade wil not have a more successful career then Kobe. While they all 3 are great athletes you wont be-able to fly like that forever just ask Kobe! But Kobe is by far the better shooter, has the better jumper, better 3 point shot, by far the best post footwork then any player in the world, his work ethic is second to none, and when he wants plays better defense then any of them......did you see the Olympics? Right now Kobe isnt the old Kobe because he doesnt need to be......he doesnt have to score 35 a night, he jsut needs to be a leader and make his teamates better. Lebron and Wade both need great nights for there teams to win just like Kobe and the Lakers 3 years ago.

You don't even know what you are talkin about. Lebron will surpass Kobe with ease as the better player over his career. The kid is just a freak like Wade. They are physically superior to Kobe in every way. The only part they are lacking right now is in the shooting department but Kobe isn't shooting that great this year either. Besides that, Lebron and Wade, are the better defenders, rebounders, and team players than Kobe. I'm the biggest Laker fan here but even I can still see that Lebron is the best player in the league today at an early age and he is only gonna get better. Nothing against Kobe, Kobe will always be the better ball-handler out of any of them but you can't teach the gifts that Lebron and D-Wade have been blessed with.

Lakerfan32
12-16-2008, 02:58 PM
I think Wade shutting down Kobe is more likely. I am hoping that Kobe gets it turned around but Wade is playing phenomenal, Kobe is in a slump, and Kobe's D has fallen off lately.

I'd say if Kobe can get it together and play some team ball rather than try to make it a Kobe vs Wade issue, then the team will shut Wade down.

JJ81
12-16-2008, 06:46 PM
If Redd can do it, Kobe certainly can.

MiamiHeat
12-16-2008, 06:53 PM
If Redd can do it, Kobe certainly can.

:laugh2:
Wade didn't get shut down by Redd
he got shut down by the whole team everytime he got the ball
they triple team him and the whole team focused on him
they dared someone other than Wade to beat them..
and he has been playing badly the last 3 games

b_rad23
12-16-2008, 07:51 PM
If Redd can do it, Kobe certainly can.

Oh, I see, Wade averages 29 a game around 30 games and you choose 1 game where he was guarded by the Prince, not Redd, to make a point.

When a team schemes around one player and no one else is scoring then it can focus on one guy. It's not fair to Wade but that's how it is.

I see Wade dropping 32-40 and Kobe getting around 25-30. Who knows though.

cahawk
12-16-2008, 11:10 PM
JordansBulls is a complete Lakers/Kobe Hater.^^^ he never has anything good to say about the team.

So what does inciting posters against people that disagree with you and calling them haters have to do with an open discussion. Is your ongoing pattern to run posters off or just silence those that disagree with you?
I would rather hear all opinions.

And what you are really saying is JordansBulls has a consistent opinion.
Just as your posts consistently has good things to say about kobe/lakers.
If a poster comes to a conclusion, such as water is wet, that is their opinion.
About all we can do is disagree, attacking posters doesn't change their opionions it just polarizes them.

DODGERS&LAKERS
12-16-2008, 11:17 PM
So what does inciting posters against people that disagree with you and calling them haters have to do with an open discussion. Is your ongoing pattern to run posters off or just silence those that disagree with you?
I would rather hear all opinions.

And what you are really saying is JordansBulls has a consistent opinion.
Just as your posts consistently has good things to say about kobe/lakers.
If a poster comes to a conclusion, such as water is wet, that is their opinion.
About all we can do is disagree, attacking posters doesn't change their opionions it just polarizes them.

Honesty, that is the best post you have ever put on here. Its the only post where you didn't crap on Kobe. I was still waiting for a "p.s. Kobe sucks" at the end of the post. Good job:clap:

GCOOKIE7
12-16-2008, 11:18 PM
stupid ****ing thread!!!!!!!!! Kobe will not stop Wade because Kobe's Defence is not good enough to stop a world class offensive player!!!! Nobody in the league can single handedly stop Wade... just like no one can do it to Kobe or LeBron!!!! I'm not saying that Wade is unstoppable, but it will take the entire Lakers to stop him which is possible.

ee
12-16-2008, 11:26 PM
I really don't see Kobe stopping wade, maybe force him a few bad shots but keeping him under 20, we'll see.....

cahawk
12-16-2008, 11:38 PM
DODGERS/LAKERS,
Thanks, you have a good attitude & don't polarize even though we disagree.
And since you were so reasonable, I will throw you another cookie.
I think kobe is playing the best team ball, I have ever seen him play.
I think this team has the most talent in the NBA & if kobe can continue to play within the triangle offense & teamwork.....they should win the Title.
Do I still think kobe is overrated & a jerk...Yes, sorry.

And I look forward to seeing Wade & kobe clash. I think kobe can win by not being drawn into a scoring duel but Wade must score for Miami to have a shot in L.A..

kvrnm
12-16-2008, 11:44 PM
kobe will not shut down d-wade. dwade is to talented, and to explosive to be shut down.

G-Funk
12-17-2008, 03:55 AM
Everyone knows that Wade won't be shut down completely, but having him score less than 22 is a success or making him shoot -40FG%

Chronz
12-17-2008, 04:46 AM
The fact that we are asking if Kobe will shut down Wade and not the other way around tells me all I need to know

b_rad23
12-17-2008, 08:28 PM
The fact that we are asking if Kobe will shut down Wade and not the other way around tells me all I need to know

Explain. Are you disagreeing with it or acknowledging Wade's ascent over Kobe?

Diehardheatfan
12-17-2008, 08:53 PM
Wade will destroy the Lakers but there is too much talent on that team for that too be enough. Ultimately Lakers will win by 12 i am thinking

Diehardheatfan
12-17-2008, 08:54 PM
The fact that we are asking if Kobe will shut down Wade and not the other way around tells me all I need to know

Yeah it tells you the fact in the NBA! Wade is the hands down the best player in the world

hotpotato1092
12-17-2008, 09:13 PM
You know theres a reason why guys like bruce bowen, tayshaun prince and james posey can put the clamps on the other teams best player. BECAUSE they arent their teams #1 option and they arent haveing the ball go through them on every possesion. Peirce, Wade, and lebron arent out there stopping eachother either because to do so would require so much energy and would surley be draining over 48 min. Thats why they have what we call deffensive specialists, guys who can go out and be physical with and expend the neccesarry energy in order to contain guys like Peirce, Wade, Kobe, Lebron etc... because they are not crucial parts of the offense and expanding as much energy on that side of the ball. Theres a reason that guys at that caliber often do not guard one another.

That's why I thought the Lakers should have traded for Ron Artest when they had the chance, so Kobe wouldn't have to guard the other team's best player. Artest is one of the few guys (like kobe) who can play great defense without offense becoming a liability. Kobe did have to expend so much energy guarding Pierce that he couldn't be as effective on offense.

hotpotato1092
12-17-2008, 09:14 PM
The fact that we are asking if Kobe will shut down Wade and not the other way around tells me all I need to know

not true, Kobe is a great defender so asking if he can shut down Wade is a good question, Wade is a fine but not great defender so there's no way he can shut down Kobe.

Chronz
12-17-2008, 09:37 PM
Explain. Are you disagreeing with it or acknowledging Wade's ascent over Kobe?
Nope just that Wade couldnt lock down Kobe if he tried


Yeah it tells you the fact in the NBA! Wade is the hands down the best player in the world
Hes been awesome but there are a few playing better.


not true, Kobe is a great defender so asking if he can shut down Wade is a good question, Wade is a fine but not great defender so there's no way he can shut down Kobe.

BINGO

t-mac1nukka
12-17-2008, 09:42 PM
why is this a thread? kind of silly!

TS what do you consider locked down? wade will prolly get his 20-25 points, and his team will more than likely lose. if thats locked down then yes he will.

MilfHunter07
12-17-2008, 10:48 PM
Wade is going to outplay kobe but, the lakers are going to kill the Heat.

cahawk
12-20-2008, 03:41 AM
kobe locked down Wade to 35pts. and the win, while Heat held laker's to lowest point total of the season.

Lebron23
12-20-2008, 04:43 AM
Wade is indeed the best SG in the NBA this season.

dee279
12-20-2008, 05:07 AM
Kobe will out perform Wade and the Lakers will win

Yeah and how dat worked out fo you?

LayZbone
12-20-2008, 06:21 AM
surprise, surprise. neither of them "shutdown" each other. bigger surprise: Heat won.

barreleffact
12-20-2008, 06:53 AM
and people say the lakers are impressive...they arent elite. they couldnt even beat up teh heat. no knock to wade but when you have 2 7 footers in the paint, take advantage of it. bynum played liek absolute trash. joel anthony outperformed him. gasol and odom were their typical unclutch selves botchin freethrows, and everybody other than fisher and kobe was pretty much a waste. trevor ariza needs to understand his role, he is an improved shooter but he isnt a shooter. he was out there jacking up shots left and right and it was all in all just a sloppy game. plus phil waited too long to bring back in his starters IMO. all in all, the lakers beat themselves(not trying to discredit wade nor the heat at all). they will go down at teh new age detroit for not putting teams away and growing complacent. its pretty pathetic...sry for venting

TMAC94
12-20-2008, 08:38 AM
i want wade to kill kobe

NYMetros
12-20-2008, 09:48 AM
Wade was great last night...

jimbobjarree
12-20-2008, 09:55 AM
lol Bynum was so over rated by Laker fans its hilarious

daleja424
12-20-2008, 11:40 AM
and people say the lakers are impressive...they arent elite. they couldnt even beat up teh heat. no knock to wade but when you have 2 7 footers in the paint, take advantage of it. bynum played liek absolute trash. joel anthony outperformed him. gasol and odom were their typical unclutch selves botchin freethrows, and everybody other than fisher and kobe was pretty much a waste. trevor ariza needs to understand his role, he is an improved shooter but he isnt a shooter. he was out there jacking up shots left and right and it was all in all just a sloppy game. plus phil waited too long to bring back in his starters IMO. all in all, the lakers beat themselves(not trying to discredit wade nor the heat at all). they will go down at teh new age detroit for not putting teams away and growing complacent. its pretty pathetic...sry for venting

1. Ariza only shot the ball 5 times....and he made 3 of them...what the heck is your problem with that?!?! Plus Ariza hit the 3 pointer that dropped the lead to 4 with like a minute left...

2. Wade sat out too and came back at the same time Kobe did, which was the only thing that let you guys back in the game in the first place since you made your initial run with Wade on the bench in the 4th. also marion was out for an extended period following the neck injury.

...stop being sore. The heat went out and played good defense and wade scored enough down the stretch for the heat to win.

barreleffact
12-20-2008, 11:56 AM
1. Ariza only shot the ball 5 times....and he made 3 of them...what the heck is your problem with that?!?! Plus Ariza hit the 3 pointer that dropped the lead to 4 with like a minute left...

2. Wade sat out too and came back at the same time Kobe did, which was the only thing that let you guys back in the game in the first place since you made your initial run with Wade on the bench in the 4th. also marion was out for an extended period following the neck injury.

...stop being sore. The heat went out and played good defense and wade scored enough down the stretch for the heat to win.

tregardless of how many trevor made, he shot some bad shots. i saw like 2 shots that were wide open and by all means he should take that, but when he's shooting with like 10 seconds in the shot clock and a man in front...thats a dumb shot. make or miss you can get better.

2- so because wade is sitting, kobe automatically has to too? no they had the lead. LA was playing against the clock. against the clock you need to maximize your time and bring back your bread and butter. I recognize it was our bench that got us back in during that stretch but what could our starters have done?

Im not being sore. Wade is my favorite player, but we did beat ourselves. we missed far more freethrows than would have been enough to have won. we didnt go out and play our best at all. the broadcasters were even talkin about how LA plays down to their level of competition. Congrats tho, wade and his team came to play. LKA didnt. I was surprised that kobe was trying to posterize people again. too bad he got blocked both times. lol

madiaz3
12-20-2008, 12:06 PM
1. Ariza only shot the ball 5 times....and he made 3 of them...what the heck is your problem with that?!?! Plus Ariza hit the 3 pointer that dropped the lead to 4 with like a minute left...

2. Wade sat out too and came back at the same time Kobe did, which was the only thing that let you guys back in the game in the first place since you made your initial run with Wade on the bench in the 4th. also marion was out for an extended period following the neck injury.

...stop being sore. The heat went out and played good defense and wade scored enough down the stretch for the heat to win.

I really don't see how you could have interpreted that as being "sore." It's not like he was knocking refs or anything. :confused:

daleja424
12-20-2008, 12:54 PM
I really don't see how you could have interpreted that as being "sore." It's not like he was knocking refs or anything. :confused:

instead of admitting the heat beat the lakers, he claims the lakers beat themselves... thats sore...

DrDEADalready
12-20-2008, 01:02 PM
I was flipping back and forth from my game to the heat and lakers game. and WOW Wade is something not of this world. very good games yesterday couple of OT games. and close games with the heat and lakers

MilfHunter07
12-20-2008, 01:19 PM
Wade outplayed Kobe tonight. And for me He's the best SG in the League right now.

b_rad23
12-20-2008, 01:20 PM
not true, Kobe is a great defender so asking if he can shut down Wade is a good question, Wade is a fine but not great defender so there's no way he can shut down Kobe.

I think Wade showed he's at least a near great defender. When he was on Kobe, little to no damage was done by Kobe. Most of his damage was done on Marion. I saw some pretty amazing one on one defense from both Wade and Kobe for brief stretches last night.

I don't think it's possible to stay in front of Wade though and the defensive scheme has to be adjusted to crowd the paint to slow him down. Almost the same for Kobe, though not quite. They'll both get theirs, but Wade needs a system to slow him down and Kobe just needs a player or two. It's the explosiveness.

MilfHunter07
12-20-2008, 01:24 PM
I think Wade showed he's at least a near great defender. When he was on Kobe, little to no damage was done by Kobe. Most of his damage was done on Marion. I saw some pretty amazing one on one defense from both Wade and Kobe for brief stretches last night.

I don't think it's possible to stay in front of Wade though and the defensive scheme has to be adjusted to crowd the paint to slow him down. Almost the same for Kobe, though not quite. They'll both get theirs, but Wade needs a system to slow him down and Kobe just needs a player or two. It's the explosiveness.

I think Both Kobe and Wade need a system to shut them down. The Heat yesterday just weren't letting the Lakers Drive in.

J$mo0th_3o5
12-20-2008, 01:32 PM
Dwyane Wade is something else....

MilfHunter07
12-20-2008, 01:34 PM
Dwyane Wade is something else....

Yep.

SwaggaIke
12-20-2008, 09:31 PM
Its funny that we can't get ANY credit for our defense last night. Bynum was disrupted and shut down, Gasol did a little work but he's soft as hell as everybody knows. We forced the Lakers into the most turnovers they had all year long and held them under 90 points. You can't tell me the Lakers didn't come to play, you can look in Kobe's eyes and see when he's not ****in around. And he wasn't last night.

barreleffact
12-20-2008, 10:39 PM
Its funny that we can't get ANY credit for our defense last night. Bynum was disrupted and shut down, Gasol did a little work but he's soft as hell as everybody knows. We forced the Lakers into the most turnovers they had all year long and held them under 90 points. You can't tell me the Lakers didn't come to play, you can look in Kobe's eyes and see when he's not ****in around. And he wasn't last night.

Miami came to play but are you honestly telling me that if the lakers had, it wouldnt have been a 20 point blowout? kobe came to play for sure, but bynum was walking up the court and was absolutely neutralized. gasol had only 10 attempts. tell me how you dont establish a post game against the heat if you want to win? tdid teh heat defense make LA shoot 50% from the line? the heat played an excellent game and did everything they had to to win, but you and i both know that if teh lakers played up to their potential, it wouldnt have been close at all.

Be-EaZY bEASLEy
12-20-2008, 11:41 PM
Miami came to play but are you honestly telling me that if the lakers had, it wouldnt have been a 20 point blowout? kobe came to play for sure, but bynum was walking up the court and was absolutely neutralized. gasol had only 10 attempts. tell me how you dont establish a post game against the heat if you want to win? tdid teh heat defense make LA shoot 50% from the line? the heat played an excellent game and did everything they had to to win, but you and i both know that if teh lakers played up to their potential, it wouldnt have been close at all.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/chrisneo/rockwtf.gif

But it didn't so it really doesn't matter what you think.

SwaggaIke
12-21-2008, 12:06 AM
Miami came to play but are you honestly telling me that if the lakers had, it wouldnt have been a 20 point blowout? kobe came to play for sure, but bynum was walking up the court and was absolutely neutralized. gasol had only 10 attempts. tell me how you dont establish a post game against the heat if you want to win? tdid teh heat defense make LA shoot 50% from the line? the heat played an excellent game and did everything they had to to win, but you and i both know that if teh lakers played up to their potential, it wouldnt have been close at all.

Naw I don't know that. You act like we were firing on all cylinders. Haslem had a bad game, Beasley had a bad game...nobody contributed offensively except Wade and Cook. Your team lost, why be a crybaby about it? Just because Bynum got shut down that means he didn't come to play? Who the hell is Bynum? What has he done in the league to merit such high standards? Gasol only had 10 attempts because he was hounded throughout the night by one of the leagues best defensive PF's. The Lakers even shot better than us from the field and STILL lost. I guess they didn't play up to their potential tonight in their loss to Orlando either huh? Looks like the same story in Orlando to me. Kobe and Fisher get theirs, Gasol and Bynum flounder. Don't try to feed me that b.s because that's exactly what it is.

barreleffact
12-21-2008, 12:26 AM
Naw I don't know that. You act like we were firing on all cylinders. Haslem had a bad game, Beasley had a bad game...nobody contributed offensively except Wade and Cook. Your team lost, why be a crybaby about it? Just because Bynum got shut down that means he didn't come to play? Who the hell is Bynum? What has he done in the league to merit such high standards? Gasol only had 10 attempts because he was hounded throughout the night by one of the leagues best defensive PF's. The Lakers even shot better than us from the field and STILL lost. I guess they didn't play up to their potential tonight in their loss to Orlando either huh? Looks like the same story in Orlando to me. Kobe and Fisher get theirs, Gasol and Bynum flounder. Don't try to feed me that b.s because that's exactly what it is.

High standards? Yea because saying he should destroy an undrafted joel anthony, that only gets minutes because of their lack of size, is a high standard right? Bynum looked worse than Oden out there. He was incredibly slow down the court. Pau was open a lot last night. wtf were u smoking? most of his attemps were wide open for shots or pick and roll late in the game. You are seriously telling me that a 6'8 lesser weight Haslem can stop a legit 7 foot former allstar in Pau gasol? No way in hell. Gasol I really feel is playing well when he is involved. Bynum I havent seen anything from when its televised. He and Odom really need to get it together and as a team they need to recommit to defense. Its going to be a sad christmas because when you are getting beat by the heat....You are definately going to be destroyed by boston if you dont get it together. all in all LA doesnt get beat. they always beat themselves...or are you saying that they should have lost to Indiana, the Kings, and Detroit too?

danbola
12-21-2008, 01:42 AM
High standards? Yea because saying he should destroy an undrafted joel anthony, that only gets minutes because of their lack of size, is a high standard right? Bynum looked worse than Oden out there. He was incredibly slow down the court. Pau was open a lot last night. wtf were u smoking? most of his attemps were wide open for shots or pick and roll late in the game. You are seriously telling me that a 6'8 lesser weight Haslem can stop a legit 7 foot former allstar in Pau gasol? No way in hell. Gasol I really feel is playing well when he is involved. Bynum I havent seen anything from when its televised. He and Odom really need to get it together and as a team they need to recommit to defense. Its going to be a sad christmas because when you are getting beat by the heat....You are definately going to be destroyed by boston if you dont get it together. all in all LA doesnt get beat. they always beat themselves...or are you saying that they should have lost to Indiana, the Kings, and Detroit too?

Why is this excuse used so often? Cant you just admit that the Lakers got outplayed?

Jonathan2323
12-21-2008, 01:44 AM
cant everyone just admit Wade is better than Kobe right now

SwaggaIke
12-21-2008, 01:53 AM
Why is this excuse used so often? Cant you just admit that the Lakers got outplayed?

Exactly. Miami and Detroit BOTH outplayed the Lakers. I guess this man thinks the Lakers can't be beat legitimately. I can't wait until that Christmas game, the boys in green should put on one hell of a show.

SwaggaIke
12-21-2008, 02:01 AM
High standards? Yea because saying he should destroy an undrafted joel anthony, that only gets minutes because of their lack of size, is a high standard right? Bynum looked worse than Oden out there. He was incredibly slow down the court. Pau was open a lot last night. wtf were u smoking? most of his attemps were wide open for shots or pick and roll late in the game. You are seriously telling me that a 6'8 lesser weight Haslem can stop a legit 7 foot former allstar in Pau gasol? No way in hell. Gasol I really feel is playing well when he is involved. Bynum I havent seen anything from when its televised. He and Odom really need to get it together and as a team they need to recommit to defense. Its going to be a sad christmas because when you are getting beat by the heat....You are definately going to be destroyed by boston if you dont get it together. all in all LA doesnt get beat. they always beat themselves...or are you saying that they should have lost to Indiana, the Kings, and Detroit too?

Just because Anthony is undrafted doesn't mean he can't shut down a severely OVERRATED Bynum. Heart trumps potential any day. Pau wasn't open A LOT last night. He had two back to back plays where he was open for free bees late, stop exaggerating. I can remember a "6'8 lesser weight Haslem" stopping a 7'0 pure stroking MVP in the NBA Finals. So can he stop Pau Gasol? No question. Just because the Lakers "great" season beginning defense was a fluke they beat themselves? Get out of here. The Lakers have been getting thrashed on the score board recently and it ain't because they're letting the other team do it. If the Knicks can come into Staples Center and damn near hand the Lakers an L w/ a 7 man rotation, they can be beat anytime and any place. Back to back L's w/ the same story. That ain't fluke, that's reality. We thrashed the Kings and Indiana. Stop making excuses and just hope that your ball club steps their game up.

barreleffact
12-21-2008, 02:09 AM
Exactly. Miami and Detroit BOTH outplayed the Lakers. I guess this man thinks the Lakers can't be beat legitimately. I can't wait until that Christmas game, the boys in green should put on one hell of a show.

2 things:- 1- I never said that they weren't outplayed, but they were outplayed because of mental lapses, sloppy play, and poor D. I have given props to MIA many times because they played a great game and executed and did what they had to do so stfu by thinking I cant admit when another team played well. I never said MIA played like **** but won against my team playing ********. Great teams impose their will on both ends. LA didn't on either end.

2- LA is a championship caliber team. they are losing to .500 clubs. as if that isn't bad enough, the D they were playing to start the season is gone. Odom is playing like trash and they are soft in almost every way. plus it seems they are working outside in when they should work inside out IMO. regardless, championship caliber clubs don't lose to anything less. they lose to themselves generally. Boston goes out every night and whoops on everyone. They play solid D and just have their way on offense. LA stays complacent. If LA was to play solid D and impose their will on both ends(like in the beginning of the season), they would be fine and if they did and lose...then they just got flat out outplayed. its easier to get outplayed when you lower your game. thats another reason why Boston will most likely kill them on christmas day.

barreleffact
12-21-2008, 02:34 AM
Just because Anthony is undrafted doesn't mean he can't shut down a severely OVERRATED Bynum. Heart trumps potential any day. Pau wasn't open A LOT last night. He had two back to back plays where he was open for free bees late, stop exaggerating. I can remember a "6'8 lesser weight Haslem" stopping a 7'0 pure stroking MVP in the NBA Finals. So can he stop Pau Gasol? No question. Just because the Lakers "great" season beginning defense was a fluke they beat themselves? Get out of here. The Lakers have been getting thrashed on the score board recently and it ain't because they're letting the other team do it. If the Knicks can come into Staples Center and damn near hand the Lakers an L w/ a 7 man rotation, they can be beat anytime and any place. Back to back L's w/ the same story. That ain't fluke, that's reality. We thrashed the Kings and Indiana. Stop making excuses and just hope that your ball club steps their game up.

dirk averaged 23 and 11 in the finals...yea, he really shut dirk down:rolleyes:

you actually proved my point if you think teams like the knicks should contend with LA? they havent played smart, with heart, nor with any commitment to defense. if they get it back on track, then lets see the heat play them. if the lakers really wanted to win, they post more than they shoot jumpers. bynum had 4 and gasol had 10 attempts...great job LA. dont take the obvious way to beat miami at all....thats what i meant by they beat themselves. if you dont execute a gameplan, esp one as simple as that, you deserve to lose and you beat yourself by being dumb. gasol is a former allstar. get him 20 attempts vs miami. give him the ball and let him work down low or pass it out. run more pick and rolls because they had no pick and roll D late. simple things that could have gotten the job done. they didnt, they lost, miami played with heart, hustle and motivation. go figure that they won against a more talented squad.

SwaggaIke
12-21-2008, 02:47 AM
dirk averaged 23 and 11 in the finals...yea, he really shut dirk down:rolleyes:

you actually proved my point if you think teams like the knicks should contend with LA? they havent played smart, with heart, nor with any commitment to defense. if they get it back on track, then lets see the heat play them. if the lakers really wanted to win, they post more than they shoot jumpers. bynum had 4 and gasol had 10 attempts...great job LA. dont take the obvious way to beat miami at all....thats what i meant by they beat themselves. if you dont execute a gameplan, esp one as simple as that, you deserve to lose and you beat yourself by being dumb. gasol is a former allstar. get him 20 attempts vs miami. give him the ball and let him work down low or pass it out. run more pick and rolls because they had no pick and roll D late. simple things that could have gotten the job done. they didnt, they lost, miami played with heart, hustle and motivation. go figure that they won against a more talented squad.

I'm not surprised that you called yourself one uppin me by looking up Dirk's stats for the Finals. So, while you were looking up Dirk's numbers from that Finals series....did you remember to check his FG percentage? Since i'm sure you didn't, i'll be more than happy to give it to you. Dirk's field goal percentage for his 6 games played in the 05-06 NBA Finals was (drum roll) .375. Where I come from...that's not efficient. And where I come from when you "get buckets", "go off", "go hard", "do work"...you do it efficiently. 7 Footers don't shoot less than 40% from the field. Haslem got it in defensively on a player that goes 5x harder than Gasol on your average night. So to reiterate my point, do I think Haslem can stop Gasol? Hell yea, especially considering the fact that he started the year off as the STARTING CENTER of his team. On a stretch of three games he had to guard Yao, Shaq and Oden. Pau? He's desert for a player as tough as Haslem. Now i'm not saying Gasol doesn't get down, but Haslem can contain him any night.

barreleffact
12-21-2008, 02:52 AM
I'm not surprised that you called yourself one uppin me by looking up Dirk's stats for the Finals. So, while you were looking up Dirk's numbers from that Finals series....did you remember to check his FG percentage? Since i'm sure you didn't, i'll be more than happy to give it to you. Dirk's field goal percentage for his 6 games played in the 05-06 NBA Finals was (drum roll) .375. Where I come from...that's not efficient. And where I come from when you "get buckets", "go off", "go hard", "do work"...you do it efficiently. 7 Footers don't shoot less than 40% from the field. Haslem got it in defensively on a player that goes 5x harder than Gasol on your average night. So to reiterate my point, do I think Haslem can stop Gasol? Hell yea, especially considering the fact that he started the year off as the STARTING CENTER of his team. On a stretch of three games he had to guard Yao, Shaq and Oden. Pau? He's desert for a player as tough as Haslem. Now i'm not saying Gasol doesn't get down, but Haslem can contain him any night.

I looked that up. did you notice that he only had 2 games under 40%? a 4-14 and a 2-14 night. everything else was at least 42. as i said...he had 2 bad games and 1 of them they won anyway

dont get me wrong at all. Haslem was teh dirty man long before maxiell, milsap, bass, etc came along. he was a double double undersized man every night and always plays his heart out. however, he is undersized, and LA should have taken advantage of that. Tell me how he did against shaq and Yao btw cuz i dont recall at all

edit: yao went for 28 and 12 and haslem was in foul trouble most of the night. he played 23 mins
not that oden is polished at all but that was teh game that miami lost by nearly 40
shaq had 12 and 9 on 75%. amare shot 60%. no matter how you slice it, the fact remains if you want to beat miami, you post them. haslem might be a hustler but he doesnt have the size to stop a great post player

SwaggaIke
12-21-2008, 03:05 AM
I looked that up. did you notice that he only had 2 games under 40%? a 4-14 and a 2-14 night. everything else was at least 42. as i said...he had 2 bad games and 1 of them they won anyway

dont get me wrong at all. Haslem was teh dirty man long before maxiell, milsap, bass, etc came along. he was a double double undersized man every night and always plays his heart out. however, he is undersized, and LA should have taken advantage of that. Tell me how he did against shaq and Yao btw cuz i dont recall at all

When has 42% from the field ever been acceptable for a 7 footer? Especially a superstar 7 footer. Parker and Wade every nearly 50% yearly. Anything less than 47% for a 7 footer is unacceptable. You can't justify it, Haslem did work on Dirk.

Shaq had 12 and 9 and Yao did damage, but he's 7'5...who contains him? You have to be 6'10 to even attempt to guard that man play after play successfully at this stage in his career. Also Amare shot 60% on Beasley and company, not Haslem. At that point he was a full time center. Haslem can guard any PF in the game, he's been doing it his entire career. If he couldn't...he wouldn't be in the league. Pau is soft as hell...he's not a Shaq. He's not as quick as an Amare. Anytime Pau faces off against a physical PF he gets his *** smashed. And he ain't no great post player.

G-Funk
12-21-2008, 03:06 AM
Wade is indeed the best SG in the NBA this season.

Player!lmfao

barreleffact
12-21-2008, 03:11 AM
When has 42% from the field ever been acceptable for a 7 footer? Especially a superstar 7 footer. Parker and Wade every nearly 50% yearly. Anything less than 47% for a 7 footer is unacceptable. You can't justify it, Haslem did work on Dirk.

Shaq had 12 and 9 and Yao did damage, but he's 7'5...who contains him? You have to be 6'10 to even attempt to guard that man play after play successfully at this stage in his career.

YOU brought that up. not me. isnt my fault it was a bum point. you say he's a great defender but bring up 3 bad examples....go figure. not trying to say he's a bad defender at all but he isnt well enough equipped if he is going against an elite poster. and dirk is a shooter. he isnt a post player, so for him to shoot 42% as his 3rd worst isnt bad. his other games were 45+ if im not mistaken. and as the main option, it isnt terrible...

and from teh boxscore joel anthony started along side him that game so he was pf not center. regardless, you chose 3 poor examples