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djohn2oo8
12-10-2008, 11:31 PM
"LAS VEGAS – Ace righthander Roy Oswalt has been watching the Astros’ moves this winter. He even discussed the team’s budget concerns with general manager Ed Wade and owner Drayton McLane, which is why he’s willing to restructure his contract and backload some money if it means they’ll get another quality starting pitcher.

Oswalt, who was in Las Vegas with good friend Jake Peavy during the first two days of baseball’s winter meetings at the Bellagio Hotel and Casino, would like the Astros to sign another quality starter for the rotation.

“We need another starter,” Oswalt said via phone from Mississippi on Wednesday, a day after returning from attending country music concerts with Peavy in Las Vegas.

If the season started today, Oswalt, Wandy Rodriguez, Mike Hampton and Brian Moehler would lead the starting rotation along with Brandon Backe.

Backe’s agent, Brian Grieper, attended the winter meetings hoping to finalize a contract for Backe, who is eligible for arbitration and must wait until Friday to find out if the club will tender him a contract or let him become a free agent.

Grieper checked out of the Bellagio on Wednesday afternoon without a contract for Backe. As the Astros try to unload Miguel Tejada’s $13 million contract or trade Ty Wigginton or Jose Valverde, it’s no secret here that the club is trying desperately to shed payroll.

Ed Wade and Cecil Cooper are adamant in their belief that they can put together a winning product in 2009 despite the economic realities that are facing the club during the country’s downturn. And if Oswalt can help Wade and Cooper by restructuring his deal, he’s willing.

“I got four more years to try to win something,” said the 2005 NLCS MVP. “They haven’t approached me about it, but I wouldn’t have a problem with it. Actually, I told Ed Wade that we could redo my contract if we could go out and get another starter.”

As of Wednesday, the Astros still weren’t at the point of asking players to restructure their deals.

“We haven’t gotten there,” Wade said. “We’ve had a lot of internal discussions on a lot of things. I think when you get to things of that magnitude it takes a lot of conversations, and 99.99 percent of it has to be internal.”

Wade, Astros president of baseball operations Tal Smith, the Astros’ assistant GMs and their top professional scouts and front offices folks have been busy this week at the Bellagio trying to find trades before the meetings end Thursday afternoon.

“It’s been productive from the standpoint of at least having what I would call substantive conversations,” Wade said of his talks Wednesday. “They could all crater by dinnertime, but it’s been interesting. It’s been an interesting day with respect to the possibility of maybe getting some things done on the trade front.”

While the market for shortstop Miguel Tejada has been weak, Wigginton has drawn some interest. The Arizona Diamondbacks are interested in him possibly as a second baseman. It appeared as though Wigginton ran the risk of not being tendered a contract, but the arbitration-eligible third baseman has drawn enough interest that baseball officials believe he’s certain to be tendered a contract.

The Astros, who would like to get a catcher and a utility infielder, also met with a few agents.

A year after picking reliever Wesley Wright from the Los Angeles Dodgers, Wade and his crew also had a three-hour meeting going over the players who will be available during the Rule 5 draft Thursday morning.

“Some agent/free agent conversations from a need standpoint,” Wade said. “Nothing of great significance, but I think there’s some things out there that we could do along the edges that might bring us guys who would fit going forward.

“We just had a very productive meeting going through a fairly expansive Rule 5 list that we whittled down to a more manageable list and we ranked them.”



Now that's what I call a team player. I think it would be a brilliant move instead of trying to trade everyone away. He makes 14 mill this year, I wonder what he would settle for to acquire another ace....

astros1981
12-10-2008, 11:44 PM
I'm wondering if this type of selflessness will be followed by Berkman and Lee. I think this shows more of the leadership qualities Roy has. I better see Berkman and Lee in line doing the same. There is no doubt that this team needs help in the starting rotation. I blame our management for putting Roy into this position.

Blackcar09
12-10-2008, 11:50 PM
will just give him another bulldozer and a hunting dog ;)
maybe even a remington rifle to boot

astrosmaniac
12-11-2008, 12:27 AM
will just give him another bulldozer and a hunting dog ;)
maybe even a remington rifle to boot

why stop there? why not bring in his hunting buddy jake peavey ;)

Jermster
12-11-2008, 12:31 AM
why stop there? why not bring in his hunting buddy jake peavey ;)

They don't have the talent to get him.

lawphin2
12-11-2008, 06:11 AM
Oswalt's a good guy

cegielskijastro
12-11-2008, 01:38 PM
why stop there? why not bring in his hunting buddy jake peavey ;)

Ben Sheets is his buddy too...

If we could some how trade Tejada, and Wigginton, non-tender Backe, and with some of Roy's money, Sheets would see how much Roy want him to be a 'Stro... I'd also like to see Wade sign Randy Johnson. Think of that rotation...

Oswalt
Sheets
Rodriguez
Johnson
Moehler/Hampton

Sounds good to me...

tripleplay2007
12-11-2008, 03:21 PM
Ben Sheets is his buddy too...

If we could some how trade Tejada, and Wigginton, non-tender Backe, and with some of Roy's money, Sheets would see how much Roy want him to be a 'Stro... I'd also like to see Wade sign Randy Johnson. Think of that rotation...

Oswalt
Sheets
Rodriguez
Johnson
Moehler/Hampton

Sounds good to me...


sounds awesome.

either the above staff or:

Peavy
Oswalt
Rodriguez
Johnson
Moehler/Hampton

or:

Peavy
Oswalt
Rodriguez
Moehler
Hampton

Jermster
12-11-2008, 03:53 PM
Ben Sheets is his buddy too...

If we could some how trade Tejada, and Wigginton, non-tender Backe, and with some of Roy's money, Sheets would see how much Roy want him to be a 'Stro... I'd also like to see Wade sign Randy Johnson. Think of that rotation...

Oswalt
Sheets
Rodriguez
Johnson
Moehler/Hampton

Sounds good to me...

Ed would probably sign only one major pitcher to add to roy.

cegielskijastro
12-11-2008, 04:01 PM
Ed would probably sign only one major pitcher to add to roy.

Sheets IS the major pitcher... Johnson isn't considered major anymore, but he'll fill the seats, just think if he gothis 300th win here and then his 5000th strike out, it'll be like Biggio's 3000th hit...

Jermster
12-11-2008, 04:12 PM
Sheets IS the major pitcher... Johnson isn't considered major anymore, but he'll fill the seats, just think if he gothis 300th win here and then his 5000th strike out, it'll be like Biggio's 3000th hit...

Johnson would take about $6 Million to $8 Million to sign him to a 1 year deal, compared to Sheets who would take about $20 Million to $35 Million to sign him to a 2 year deal.

Drayton might tell Ed to sign Sheets to he doesn't have to pay money for a first round pick.

Now we need Lance Berkman to tell Ed and Drayton that he is willing to restructure his contract

lilboytwister99
12-11-2008, 07:44 PM
Hell yeah we better see Berkman and Lee follow suit and do the same as Roy. Ya know its a shame that only Roy has stepped up at this point to even attempt to help the payroll to get another starter. Berkman should have at least been right there beside him saying the same thing to Drayton. We pay Berkman more than Roy, and hell Berkman only performs half the season, because the other half he's ice cold.

I think our only shot at a big name is Ben Sheets. I wouldnt mind seeing him in our pinstripes. Now that Peavy isnt Chicago bound, we might have a shot if we put some pieces together.

I'd definitely go after Sheets as hard as I possibly could if I were Ed Wade. We NEED starting pitching, and not Mike Hampton caliber.

Later yall.

astro4life
12-11-2008, 08:03 PM
Johnson would take about $6 Million to $8 Million to sign him to a 1 year deal, compared to Sheets who would take about $20 Million to $35 Million to sign him to a 2 year deal.
Drayton might tell Ed to sign Sheets to he doesn't have to pay money for a first round pick.

Now we need Lance Berkman to tell Ed and Drayton that he is willing to restructure his contract

Why would you give Sheets only two years?

Jermster
12-11-2008, 09:57 PM
Why would you give Sheets only two years?

Because he is injury prone and he could end up like Jason Jennings did in 2007.If that happens, then the Astros can find another starter.

Do you think that Drayton or Ed will restructure Roy's or possibly Berkman's contract?

If Drayton Mclane doesn't restructure Roy's or possibly Berkmans contracts, then he doesn't care about winning, just making money!

native_astro
12-11-2008, 10:02 PM
I'm glad to see that Roy is taking a page out of the Bagwell and Biggio playbook. Biggio and Bagwell did this all the time so I'm glad to see that someone is picking up where they left off.

The Astros might have to give Sheets a 3rd year with a 4th year option if they want to keep him away from the Yankees or other teams.

astro4life
12-12-2008, 06:02 PM
Because he is injury prone and he could end up like Jason Jennings did in 2007.If that happens, then the Astros can find another starter.

Do you think that Drayton or Ed will restructure Roy's or possibly Berkman's contract?

If he doesn't, then he doesn't care about winning, just making money!

Ben Sheets might be injury prone, but his stuff is good enough to take a risk on. Jennings was just injury prone and awful.

Sheets > Jennings

Also, it is a little unfair to say that a player does not care about winning if he does not take a pay cut. There is not a single player who enjoys losing as long as they get a salary. No matter how selfish they are.

Jermster
12-12-2008, 06:27 PM
Also, it is a little unfair to say that a player does not care about winning if he does not take a pay cut. There is not a single player who enjoys losing as long as they get a salary. No matter how selfish they are.

I was referring to Drayon Mclane.