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umh34
12-05-2008, 07:49 PM
Is Wade better then James because he sure is playing like it. thoughts?

Afridi786
12-05-2008, 08:26 PM
Yes............................................... ...............

dwiduck
12-05-2008, 10:57 PM
I don't think so, Wade is forced to control the game more now much like LeBron has had to do in past years but this year LBJ has a much better supporting cast whereas Wade does not. Although if Wade can stay healthy this year there might be one more player added to the best player discussion.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-05-2008, 11:05 PM
Is Wade better then James because he sure is playing like it. thoughts?


Yes............................................... ...............

Really? Wow he has one stint of time where he is playing better so now he is overall a better player then LeBron? Do you ever think that maybe it's because we are killing teams by 20+ so LeBron doesn't really have to do much?

Oh, and by the way who's team is 16-3..

Don't kid yourself.

Jonathan2323
12-05-2008, 11:06 PM
Really? Wow he has one stint of time where he is playing better so now he is overall a better player then LeBron?

Oh, and by the way who's team is 16-3..

Don't kid yourself.

Who had the best finals performace ever? not Jordan it was Wade.

umh34
12-06-2008, 01:03 AM
Really? Wow he has one stint of time where he is playing better so now he is overall a better player then LeBron? Do you ever think that maybe it's because we are killing teams by 20+ so LeBron doesn't really have to do much?

Oh, and by the way who's team is 16-3..

Don't kid yourself.

dude brons leaving you. WHOSE TEAM IS GOING TO HAVE THEIR SUPERSTAR IN 2010....have fun being a knicks fann lol. oh and who has a ring. NUFF SAID HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-06-2008, 01:27 AM
Who had the best finals performace ever? not Jordan it was Wade.

Wow and ask yourself did Michael of Shaq playing next to him one of the best big men EVER?

His performance was great, but that wasn't the question. The question was is Wade ''better'' then LeBron and you would be crazy to say he is.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-06-2008, 01:28 AM
dude brons leaving you. WHOSE TEAM IS GOING TO HAVE THEIR SUPERSTAR IN 2010....have fun being a knicks fann lol. oh and who has a ring. NUFF SAID HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Don't call me dude.

dwiduck
12-06-2008, 02:15 AM
dude brons leaving you. WHOSE TEAM IS GOING TO HAVE THEIR SUPERSTAR IN 2010....have fun being a knicks fann lol. oh and who has a ring. NUFF SAID HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

"DUDE" regardless of what happens I will never be a Knicks fan. Hey and for all you know Wade could be going to the Knicks so suck on that.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-06-2008, 02:57 AM
dude brons leaving you. WHOSE TEAM IS GOING TO HAVE THEIR SUPERSTAR IN 2010....have fun being a knicks fann lol. oh and who has a ring. NUFF SAID HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

You know when someone loses a argument when they resort to taunting. Real classy.

infamous
12-06-2008, 10:45 AM
You know when someone loses a argument when they resort to taunting. Real classy.

Just ignore them. Some of their arguments are a bit childish. If they don't have a good argument they will resort to lebron is going to the knicks blah blah blah. It's because we are up 16-3, and they are JEALOUS over it.

But to answer the thread question. I think not, but they are pretty close. They are two different players in my opinion, each with their different style. To be honest I love D-wade, I like his style of play - a bit jordanesque. But for now he is not better than Lebron. D-WADE is playing so great right now, it's because he is the primary option.

Lebron's supporting cast are great right now, so he doesn't need to score more. And Wade is playing more minutes I think.

jeffvdone
12-06-2008, 10:57 AM
dude brons leaving you. Whose team is going to have their superstar in 2010....have fun being a knicks fann lol. Oh and who has a ring. Nuff said hahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!

hey buddy sports are a what have you done for me lately kind of ordeal and last time i checked wade has done nothing but help his team have the worst record in the league. The reason lebrons numbers are down because he doesnt have to carry a crap team with hughes and gooden anymore. He actually has a team. Miami wouldnt have won that championship without shaq. By the way i highly doubt wade is going to stay either in 2010 so have fun watching beasley and a bunch of nobodys. Who has a deal with nike? Also how come nobody is drooling over wade in 2010? Oooo thats right because they would rather have the king. In two weeks wade will be on the ir with a hangnail anyway. The guy cant play with a splinter.

infamous
12-06-2008, 11:32 AM
hey buddy sports are a what have you done for me lately kind of ordeal and last time i checked wade has done nothing but help his team have the worst record in the league. The reason lebrons numbers are down because he doesnt have to carry a crap team with hughes and gooden anymore. He actually has a team. Miami wouldnt have won that championship without shaq. By the way i highly doubt wade is going to stay either in 2010 so have fun watching beasley and a bunch of nobodys. Who has a deal with nike? Also how come nobody is drooling over wade in 2010? Oooo thats right because they would rather have the king. In two weeks wade will be on the ir with a hangnail anyway. The guy cant play with a splinter.
:laugh::laugh:
Good point! There are lot's of big names in 2010.

Afridi786
12-06-2008, 12:39 PM
At least Miami will have Beasley to build around, you'll have Daniel Gibson?

umh34
12-06-2008, 01:42 PM
Don't call me dude.

so are you a women?

umh34
12-06-2008, 01:44 PM
hey buddy sports are a what have you done for me lately kind of ordeal and last time i checked wade has done nothing but help his team have the worst record in the league. The reason lebrons numbers are down because he doesnt have to carry a crap team with hughes and gooden anymore. He actually has a team. Miami wouldnt have won that championship without shaq. By the way i highly doubt wade is going to stay either in 2010 so have fun watching beasley and a bunch of nobodys. Who has a deal with nike? Also how come nobody is drooling over wade in 2010? Oooo thats right because they would rather have the king. In two weeks wade will be on the ir with a hangnail anyway. The guy cant play with a splinter.

But you know what heat fans have that you cavs fans dont have? ashurants. weither its true or not Wade has said he wants to stay with miami. Think about this. Lebron and Wade were joking around by saying they wanted to be on the same team in 2010, the heat will have the cap, and wade said he wants to stay. idk but looks like a your god could end up in my backyard.

umh34
12-06-2008, 01:45 PM
You know when someone loses a argument when they resort to taunting. Real classy.

there is no arugment, WADE 1 JAMES 0. nuff said.

umh34
12-06-2008, 01:47 PM
[QUOTE=jeffvdone;7562938]hey buddy sports are a what have you done for me lately kind of ordeal and last time i checked wade has done nothing but help his team have the worst record in the league. The reason lebrons numbers are down because he doesnt have to carry a crap team with hughes and gooden anymore. He actually has a team. Miami wouldnt have won that championship without shaq. By the way i highly doubt wade is going to stay either in 2010 so have fun watching beasley and a bunch of nobodys. Who has a deal with nike? Also how come nobody is drooling over wade in 2010? Oooo thats right because they would rather have the king. In two weeks wade will be on the ir with a hangnail anyway. The guy cant play with a splinter.[/QUOTE

IF that were to happen. thats fine ill take BEASLEY!!! and you can have......mo williams?

umh34
12-06-2008, 01:56 PM
Just ignore them. Some of their arguments are a bit childish. If they don't have a good argument they will resort to lebron is going to the knicks blah blah blah. It's because we are up 16-3, and they are JEALOUS over it.

But to answer the thread question. I think not, but they are pretty close. They are two different players in my opinion, each with their different style. To be honest I love D-wade, I like his style of play - a bit jordanesque. But for now he is not better than Lebron. D-WADE is playing so great right now, it's because he is the primary option.

Lebron's supporting cast are great right now, so he doesn't need to score more. And Wade is playing more minutes I think.

First, im not jealous over your little 16-3 record cause in the end, its boston. Second, just a question but do you think now that wade is the primary option and lebron has been his whole career, we are starting to see that wade is ARGUABLY the best player in the league. And yea Wade is playing more mins but only by 1.3 mins. (lebron 35.3, Wade 38.6)

dwiduck
12-06-2008, 04:37 PM
First, im not jealous over your little 16-3 record cause in the end, its boston. Second, just a question but do you think now that wade is the primary option and lebron has been his whole career, we are starting to see that wade is ARGUABLY the best player in the league. And yea Wade is playing more mins but only by 1.3 mins. (lebron 35.3, Wade 38.6)

Last I checked 38.6-35.3=3.3

dwiduck
12-06-2008, 04:40 PM
But you know what heat fans have that you cavs fans dont have? ashurants. weither its true or not Wade has said he wants to stay with miami. Think about this. Lebron and Wade were joking around by saying they wanted to be on the same team in 2010, the heat will have the cap, and wade said he wants to stay. idk but looks like a your god could end up in my backyard.

LBJ has said he wants to stay in Cleveland, the cavs will have cap. Personally i think everyone with the exception of amare will likely stay put in 2010.

dwiduck
12-06-2008, 04:45 PM
At least Miami will have Beasley to build around, you'll have Daniel Gibson?

No I'm sure if we lose Lebron we'll sign D-Wade :D

Clevefan23
12-06-2008, 04:58 PM
Last I checked 38.6-35.3=3.3

I love it!!

U can tell a lot about a person by their math skills

Draco
12-06-2008, 05:35 PM
Who had the best finals performace ever? not Jordan it was Wade.

That's debatable. ESPN ranked Wades performance as the best (based upon Hollingers PER stat I guess) but ESPN also said Wade was given a red carpet and a police escort to the free throw line.

Here's what's not debatable.. who beat the defending championship Heat in their season opener by 42 points? The Bulls. Who swept the defending championship Heat out of the playoffs? The Bull's.

Wade better than Lebron? :down:

ShaunRiching9
12-06-2008, 05:54 PM
no i dont think he is but they are noth pretty damn good, but not as good as smush

umh34
12-06-2008, 07:35 PM
Last I checked 38.6-35.3=3.3

oh i meant 36.3 my bad.

umh34
12-06-2008, 07:36 PM
I love it!!

U can tell a lot about a person by their math skills

or just a typo lol moron

umh34
12-06-2008, 07:49 PM
That's debatable. ESPN ranked Wades performance as the best (based upon Hollingers PER stat I guess) but ESPN also said Wade was given a red carpet and a police escort to the free throw line.

Here's what's not debatable.. who beat the defending championship Heat in their season opener by 42 points? The Bulls. Who swept the defending championship Heat out of the playoffs? The Bull's.

Wade better than Lebron? :down:

hey the bulls are garbage....next.

jkiddvc20
12-06-2008, 08:16 PM
No Lebron is the best player in the NBA hands down. The guy is 6'8 a tank, one of the fastest guys in the league, and could get to the rim at will. Kobe is a close 2nd with Wade in 3rd. If I was building a franchise no doubt in my mind Lebron would be my first choice over anyone. When healthy Wade is one of the best but you can not rely on him to always stay fully healthy. Lebron is only 23 just remember that he is still so young and should have many years left. Lebron is the best player in the NBA and Dwayne Wade is the 3rd best.

Cavs_Fan24
12-06-2008, 08:18 PM
dude brons leaving you. WHOSE TEAM IS GOING TO HAVE THEIR SUPERSTAR IN 2010....have fun being a knicks fann lol. oh and who has a ring. NUFF SAID HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

It doesn't matter. Right now what matters is we're winning games and we can contend for a title this year and the next. Even if he does leave, we'll still be ok. We'll have the money to sign a superstar, and odds are we'll get one. And Wade is not better then LeBron, Wade only has a ring because of his supporting cast. If it wasn't for Jason Williams they wouldn't have won the series.

Cavs_Fan24
12-06-2008, 08:22 PM
I think this thread should be closed. We're getting off-topic and some people are jsut pissing other people off on purpose now.

umh34
12-06-2008, 10:03 PM
It doesn't matter. Right now what matters is we're winning games and we can contend for a title this year and the next. Even if he does leave, we'll still be ok. We'll have the money to sign a superstar, and odds are we'll get one. And Wade is not better then LeBron, Wade only has a ring because of his supporting cast. A lot of people don't remeber but in game 6 he only had 3 points, if it wasn't for Jason Williams they wouldn't have won the series.

i dont know about wade having 3 points in that series. jason williams was big for us too. but wade having three points....idk.

Draco
12-06-2008, 10:48 PM
hey the bulls are garbage....next.

and you're a fkn moron.. next.

Draco
12-06-2008, 10:49 PM
I think this thread should be closed. We're getting off-topic and some people are jsut pissing other people off on purpose now.

What do you expect. It was started by a troll.

fishfan79
12-06-2008, 11:03 PM
To be fair I would say wade is a far better defender then James, James has more raw ability because of his size and youth over Wade, wade has proven more though I would say as well winning a championship and all, where james hasnt yet (shaq that series was producing less then Big Z does on average so really wasnt a factor at all, wade destroyed that series).

I would say both are great player and both teams are lucky to have them and it will be good to see them both stay where they are at, where the fans love them for a long time to come.

daleja424
12-06-2008, 11:06 PM
It doesn't matter. Right now what matters is we're winning games and we can contend for a title this year and the next. Even if he does leave, we'll still be ok. We'll have the money to sign a superstar, and odds are we'll get one. And Wade is not better then LeBron, Wade only has a ring because of his supporting cast. A lot of people don't remeber but in game 6 he only had 3 points, if it wasn't for Jason Williams they wouldn't have won the series.

hey moron...wade had 36 in game 6 after scoring 40+ in two of the previous three. Do you just make crap up?

daleja424
12-06-2008, 11:07 PM
and right now wade is the best player in the nba. he gets it done in every aspect of the game and is single handedly responsible for the Heats 11 wins...

heatwade09
12-06-2008, 11:11 PM
wade had 33 more points than 3 in game 6 dude. besides game 2 where he had 23 points, he had 28, 42, 36, 43, and 36 points the rest of the series.

daleja424
12-06-2008, 11:13 PM
wade had 33 more points than 3 in game 6 dude. besides game 2 where he had 23 points, he had 28, 42, 36, 43, and 36 points the rest of the series.

some people just make up things to prove a point and hope no one will check into it... but when we do check they look like complete idiots

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-06-2008, 11:29 PM
hey the bulls are garbage....next.


or just a typo lol moron

There you go again good work man!

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-06-2008, 11:31 PM
hey moron...wade had 36 in game 6 after scoring 40+ in two of the previous three. Do you just make crap up?

Hey nice post good use of the word moron. You act like you know something about the NBA, but then you start your sentence with "moron". NICE!

daleja424
12-06-2008, 11:34 PM
well he is a moron. How do you just blindly claim that wade scored 3 points in a finals game without looking it up...

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-07-2008, 12:12 AM
well he is a moron. How do you just blindly claim that wade scored 3 points in a finals game without looking it up...

Well obviously that is a little foolish to do on a sports forum. I just think you and maybe everyone needs to chill out with the negative posts. We are getting heated* (haha kinda funny) over a stupid topic. This has a lot to do with the thread starter, who has failed to prove his argument and has only taunted Cleveland fans.

*You get it you guys are Heat fans :p I know its lame.

Weezy
12-07-2008, 01:15 AM
i think this thread is funny. :p

TheLogical
12-07-2008, 03:34 AM
hey the bulls are garbage....next.

Okay, stop it. If you really think Wade is better why did you start this thread in the Cavaliers Forum, NOT the Heat forum? Also if the Cavaliers don't resign LeBron and he goes the Knicks/Nets/Whatever the Cavaliers will have the cap space to sign 2 SUPERSTARS. They are the only team besides the Raptors to have enough space for two superstar caliber players.

We don't just have Gibson to build off of, we have Mo. We also have enough cap space to back ourselves up if we happen to lose LeBron. We also have a tough nucleus in our bench players, Hickson, Varajao.

LeBron has also said many times before that he WANTS to stay in Cleveland everybody BUT ESPN is saying that he will stay.

Looking into the near future we have lots of expiring's that we can trade at the deadline for ANOTHER player to back up LeBron.

We also believe that the person who MADE this thread doesn't know anything about the game and is a total homer.


They are both great players, its impossible to compare them. LeBron is a tank and loves driving through the lane and capitalizing. Wade is very flashy and likes to penetrate and make flashy moves.

They play different positions and are different sizes and have different styles of playing, you can't compare them its impossible.

Its like comparing George Mikan to Magic Johnson.

Please don't triple post just edit your previous one.

nygiants242
12-07-2008, 03:36 AM
and right now wade is the best player in the nba. he gets it done in every aspect of the game and is single handedly responsible for the Heats 11 wins...

Yeah, I agree. He is CARRYING his team right now, he lays it all out on the court baby

D-Wade for MVP right now.

infamous
12-07-2008, 08:41 AM
First, im not jealous over your little 16-3 record cause in the end, its boston. Second, just a question but do you think now that wade is the primary option and lebron has been his whole career, we are starting to see that wade is ARGUABLY the best player in the league. And yea Wade is playing more mins but only by 1.3 mins. (lebron 35.3, Wade 38.6)

Now it's 17-3. Lebron james has not played in the 4th quarter in the past 6 games. And don't forget about his consecutive 41 points games, and he did that still early in the season. He is breaking records at his age, and his highest scoring output is 56 - just to highlight a FEW. He is still better than Wade.

umh34
12-07-2008, 04:56 PM
Now it's 17-3. Lebron james has not played in the 4th quarter in the past 6 games. And don't forget about his consecutive 41 points games, and he did that still early in the season. He is breaking records at his age, and his highest scoring output is 56 - just to highlight a FEW. He is still better than Wade.

im not sayin brony is good. hes amazing. but what im was asking (which you answered in your opinion) was if wade is better then bron. some tool said why dont i give my opinon so i will. i think wade is better then bron because he has more fundamentle skills down. brons game is he takes it down the court and makes someone look foolish. wade can do the same but he also is a little bit better in a half court setting IMO. i also think that he is better in the clutch. not sayin bron is bad in the clutch but wade is better in the clutch. wade is also a better defender. so all that said that is why i say wade is better then bron. BRON IS SICK, but wade is a lil better. i think your team has a great shot at the title but of course boston is in your way but thats my reasoning.

umh34
12-07-2008, 04:57 PM
Hey nice post good use of the word moron. You act like you know something about the NBA, but then you start your sentence with "moron". NICE!

lol dude your not very smart are you. oh my bad i called you dude again lol. you never did answer the question (or at least i didnt see) are you a woman?

Cavs_Fan24
12-07-2008, 05:45 PM
i dont know about wade having 3 points in that series. jason williams was big for us too. but wade having three points....idk.

I said he had 3 points in game 6, which he didn't I just looked it up on the computer and he did have 36 pts. My SI 2007 book's boxscores of game 6 said he had 3 points. SI's books and magazines are full of typos.

Cavs_Fan24
12-07-2008, 05:57 PM
Wade is not better then LeBron

You hear the people like, Rick Kamla, Steven A Smith, and Kenny Smith that actually knows a thing or 2about baskbetall say that LeBron is the best player in the NBA and Kobe is a close second. Wade is 3rd best. There is no argument here, because everyone in this forum is either a heat fan, or cavalier fan, and were just pissing eachother off about it.

LeBron > Wade < Kobe

DEAL WITH IT!!

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-07-2008, 05:57 PM
lol dude your not very smart are you. oh my bad i called you dude again lol. you never did answer the question (or at least i didnt see) are you a woman?

Good assumption especially considering your still stuck on using words like "lol". Oh wait I also see you struggle to capitalize your letters when you start a sentence.

No I am not a woman. I just don't appreciate the word "dude" when the person that is saying it follows it up with some stupid remark.

You have yet to prove your point and I have also not seen one intelligent post from you. So who isn't very smart now?:ouch:

umh34
12-07-2008, 06:03 PM
Good assumption especially considering your still stuck on using words like "lol". Oh wait I also see you struggle to capitalize your letters when you start a sentence.

No I am not a woman. I just don't appreciate the word "dude" when the person that is saying it follows it up with some stupid remark.

You have yet to prove your point and I have also not seen one intelligent post from you. So who isn't very smart now?:ouch:

no i dont stuggle to capitilize my words because this isnt an english paper. i have proven my point. if you read something youll see it.

umh34
12-07-2008, 06:05 PM
Wade is not better then LeBron

You hear the people like, Rick Kamla, Steven A Smith, and Kenny Smith that actually knows a thing or 2about baskbetall say that LeBron is the best player in the NBA and Kobe is a close second. Wade is 3rd best. There is no argument here, because everyone in this forum is either a heat fan, or cavalier fan, and were just pissing eachother off about it.

LeBron > Wade < Kobe

DEAL WITH IT!!

First they have to say hes the best player in the NBA because he's marketable. Second i dont need to listen to someone to find out who the best player in the NBA is to figure it out on my own, i watch it.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-07-2008, 06:17 PM
Obviously its not a English paper, but if your going to come after someone saying "your not very smart" you should at least prove to me that you are ha ha I have yet to see that. Bad at math ha ha and bad at writing. Oh don't let me forget bad at proving something is factually true and not just based on opinion.

You just keep getting shut down by the Chief.:laugh2:

TheLogical
12-07-2008, 06:38 PM
SHUT DOWN.

Umh in every sentence you have made a typo, acted like a total homer, and not proven anything whatsoever.

People looking in on this thread even if they agree with you will disregard you because your ARGUING OVER NOTHING!!!!

First off your not even putting across a solid point your saying we have no brain which by the looks of it is clearly the other way around. If you want people to respect you go to kindergarten and learn some punctuation, capitalization, and correct usage of words.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-07-2008, 06:43 PM
SHUT DOWN.

Umh in every sentence you have made a typo, acted like a total homer, and not proven anything whatsoever.

People looking in on this thread even if they agree with you will disregard you because your ARGUING OVER NOTHING!!!!

First off your not even putting across a solid point your saying we have no brain which by the looks of it is clearly the other way around. If you want people to respect you go to kindergarten and learn some punctuation, capitalization, and correct usage of words.

He just doesn't get it. I have totally destroyed him every time he has tried to insult me and Cavalier fans in general.

umh34
12-07-2008, 06:50 PM
Obviously its not a English paper, but if your going to come after someone saying "your not very smart" you should at least prove to me that you are ha ha I have yet to see that. Bad at math ha ha and bad at writing. Oh don't let me forget bad at proving something is factually true and not just based on opinion.

You just keep getting shut down by the Chief.:laugh2:

To be honest with you, the only good point you have made was about me saying you're not very smart but I don't use correct grammar. And this whole subject is based on opinon. No one said anything about this being fact. And if you keep shutting me down then how am I coming back at you with something every time? Like I said it wasn't a math issue it was a typo issue. You sir have a reading comprehension problem.

How was the grammar on that little paragraph? :)

umh34
12-07-2008, 06:53 PM
SHUT DOWN.

Umh in every sentence you have made a typo, acted like a total homer, and not proven anything whatsoever.

People looking in on this thread even if they agree with you will disregard you because your ARGUING OVER NOTHING!!!!

First off your not even putting across a solid point your saying we have no brain which by the looks of it is clearly the other way around. If you want people to respect you go to kindergarten and learn some punctuation, capitalization, and correct usage of words.

Your an idoit, I talked about why I think Wade is better.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-07-2008, 07:00 PM
To be honest with you, the only good point you have made was about me saying you're not very smart but I don't use correct grammar. And this whole subject is based on opinon. No one said anything about this being fact. And if you keep shutting me down then how am I coming back at you with something every time? Like I said it wasn't a math issue it was a typo issue. You sir have a reading comprehension problem.

How was the grammar on that little paragraph? :)

Well you misspelled 'opinion' its not spelled opinon.

To also be honest the only reason you keep coming is because you are foolish. You should learn to accept defeat when you have been defeated.

About the comprehension, do you think it has anything to do with you not writing good posts that actually make sense instead of either a taunt or a insult? Here I will help the answer is yes. I didn't bother reading some of your posts because you have not proven me that your posts are worth reading.

About the facts thing. A topic like this if your going to bring it into the actual teams forum you need another reason that Wade is better, then you just being a Miami heat fan.

umh34
12-07-2008, 07:03 PM
Obviously its not a English paper, but if your going to come after someone saying "your not very smart" you should at least prove to me that you are ha ha I have yet to see that. Bad at math ha ha and bad at writing. Oh don't let me forget bad at proving something is factually true and not just based on opinion.

You just keep getting shut down by the Chief.:laugh2:

oh never mind.

umh34
12-07-2008, 07:06 PM
Well you misspelled 'opinion' its not spelled opinon.

To also be honest the only reason you keep coming is because you are foolish. You should learn to accept defeat when you have been defeated.

About the comprehension, do you think it has anything to do with you not writing good posts that actually make sense instead of either a taunt or a insult? Here I will help the answer is yes. I didn't bother reading some of your posts because you have not proven me that your posts are worth reading.

About the facts thing. A topic like this if your going to bring it into the actual teams forum you need another reason that Wade is better, then you just being a Miami heat fan.

I didn't just say hes better. I said he is more clutch the LeBron and he plays better defense...stats show. Explain to me how Lebron is better then Wade.

umh34
12-07-2008, 07:14 PM
I said he had 3 points in game 6, which he didn't I just looked it up on the computer and he did have 36 pts. My SI 2007 book's boxscores of game 6 said he had 3 points. SI's books and magazines are full of typos.

Those bastards...

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-07-2008, 07:36 PM
I didn't just say hes better. I said he is more clutch the LeBron and he plays better defense...stats show. Explain to me how Lebron is better then Wade.

Okay here we go. How many times has Wade avg. 30+ppg? Zero. Lebron twice.

How many times has LeBron averaged 6+rpg? 5 times. Wade Zero.

Okay so you want assist? Guess what they are equal even with LeBron being 6-8 and 240lbs.

Wade has steals, but James has blocks.

Their FG% and 3pt% are fairly equal.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-07-2008, 07:37 PM
I didn't just say hes better. I said he is more clutch the LeBron and he plays better defense...stats show. Explain to me how Lebron is better then Wade.

What's the thread titled again remember I can't read.

enabring
12-07-2008, 08:22 PM
Listen folks, his defense isn't better. I am pretty sure Wade would get toasted by Kobe, because he's too small. Can Wade guard Lebron? Not in a million years. Lebron wouldn't shut down Wade but he could play decent defense on him. Oh, on top of this let's look at the exact career stats:

Lebron 27.3 pts, 6.6 asts, 6.9 rebounds, 3.3 tos, .8 blocks, 1.8 steals, 32% 3s, 47% fgs
Wade 24.2 pts, 6.5 asts, 4.9 rebounds, 3.9 tos, .9 blocks, 1.8 steals, 26% 3s, 50% fgs

Ok, thats 3.1 points for Lebron, .1 asts for Lebron, 2.0 rebounds for Lebron, .1 blocks for Wade, even on steals, 6% for Lebron on 3s, and 3% for fgs for Wade.

The only reason Wades stats are higher this year are because he is playing 2.6 more minutes per game and his team is so terrible that he has to do everything for them. (Oh, by the way, No Shaq = No ring for Wade.) If you honestly feel that you would build a team around Wade over Lebron you are for some reason disillusioned. Last time I checked, the Knicks weren't clearing cap space to try to get Wade to go there. There aren't entire press conferences focused on where he will be in 2010. Wade is an excellent player and a potential hall of famer this early in his career, but by no means better than James. I cannot believe this thread is still active. Please, try to let this be the last of it

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-07-2008, 08:34 PM
Listen folks, his defense isn't better. I am pretty sure Wade would get toasted by Kobe, because he's too small. Can Wade guard Lebron? Not in a million years. Lebron wouldn't shut down Wade but he could play decent defense on him. Oh, on top of this let's look at the exact career stats:

Lebron 27.3 pts, 6.6 asts, 6.9 rebounds, 3.3 tos, .8 blocks, 1.8 steals, 32% 3s, 47% fgs
Wade 24.2 pts, 6.5 asts, 4.9 rebounds, 3.9 tos, .9 blocks, 1.8 steals, 26% 3s, 50% fgs

Ok, thats 3.1 points for Lebron, .1 asts for Lebron, 2.0 rebounds for Lebron, .1 blocks for Wade, even on steals, 6% for Lebron on 3s, and 3% for fgs for Wade.

The only reason Wades stats are higher this year are because he is playing 2.6 more minutes per game and his team is so terrible that he has to do everything for them. (Oh, by the way, No Shaq = No ring for Wade.) If you honestly feel that you would build a team around Wade over Lebron you are for some reason disillusioned. Last time I checked, the Knicks weren't clearing cap space to try to get Wade to go there. There aren't entire press conferences focused on where he will be in 2010. Wade is an excellent player and a potential hall of famer this early in his career, but by no means better than James. I cannot believe this thread is still active. Please, try to let this be the last of it

Exactly I that's pretty much what I have been saying to this kid he just doesn't listen. It's pretty clear!

Ethix11
12-07-2008, 09:22 PM
The only reason im here is because i heard this was getting ridiculous on the Heat forum. Pretty funny IMO. Coming from a Heat fan, all i got to say is, i cant wait until Wade and James meet this season so we can have a good old fashioned rivalry. But to comment on the comparison, i hate hearing Lebron is younger this and that, in past history, big men brake down and dont last as long in the league. But if the argument is whom is better, i'd say Wade.1) Not being biased or anything but Lebron had the chance to be the best player in Beijing and didnt showcase it to the World! Some guy off the bench did it coming off of knee and shoulder surgeries. I hope James stays healthy Cleveland but thats a feat in itself. And 2) James has never won the skills competition which makes me ask the question. Besides scoring, what can James do to help his team get over a tremendous defensive team? Do it on his own? Theres no I in team. Just look at the Cavs supporting casts numbers this season and compare them to the heats "poor" supporting casts stats and tell me who makes their team better. And dont mention their records either because Miami's team had to practically get reconstructed this offseason and they're getting their groove on. Mad respect for the King but im looking at the overall player.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-07-2008, 09:55 PM
The only reason im here is because i heard this was getting ridiculous on the Heat forum. Pretty funny IMO. Coming from a Heat fan, all i got to say is, i cant wait until Wade and James meet this season so we can have a good old fashioned rivalry. But to comment on the comparison, i hate hearing Lebron is younger this and that, in past history, big men brake down and dont last as long in the league. But if the argument is whom is better, i'd say Wade.1) Not being biased or anything but Lebron had the chance to be the best player in Beijing and didnt showcase it to the World! Some guy off the bench did it coming off of knee and shoulder surgeries. I hope James stays healthy Cleveland but thats a feat in itself. And 2) James has never won the skills competition which makes me ask the question. Besides scoring, what can James do to help his team get over a tremendous defensive team? Do it on his own? Theres no I in team. Just look at the Cavs supporting casts numbers this season and compare them to the heats "poor" supporting casts stats and tell me who makes their team better. And dont mention their records either because Miami's team had to practically get reconstructed this offseason and they're getting their groove on. Mad respect for the King but im looking at the overall player.

Look at one of my previous posts. LeBron is better in almost every category throughout his career. Oh wow LeBron didn't play better in China who cares honestly does that matter. We killed every team he was being smart probably and not going all out in every game because it was simply not needed.

LeBron is just as much of a team player as Wade is too.

infamous
12-07-2008, 11:00 PM
Not being biased or anything but Lebron had the chance to be the best player in Beijing and didnt showcase it to the World! Some guy off the bench did it coming off of knee and shoulder surgeries.

What do you mean he didn't play better in China? he was phenomenal in China, he was a leader, he played with his team and unselfishly. He was a team player, he made his team better. He didn't ball hog.



James has never won the skills competition which makes me ask the question.


Winning a skills competition doesn't make someone better than the other. Jesus.

You mean to say Nate Robinson is better than Dwight Howard for winning the dunk contest? :rolleyes:



Besides scoring, what can James do to help his team get over a tremendous defensive team? Do it on his own? Theres no I in team.
Uhhm, he took a crappy team to the NBA finals without a teammate like Shaq?

If Wade was that great and makes his team better than Lebron then why did he let his team last year had the worst record in the league? Pls. answer that.


But to comment on the comparison, i hate hearing Lebron is younger this and that, in past history, big men brake down and dont last as long in the league.

And how do you measure one's greatness? of course by the accomplishments, so it is just right to mention how he accomplished his feats at a young age.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-07-2008, 11:06 PM
What do you mean he didn't play better in china? he was phenomenal in china, he was a leader, he played with his team and unselfishly. He was a team player, he made his team better. He didn't ball hog.



Winning a skills competition doesn't make someone better than the other. Jesus.

You mean to say Nate Robinson is better than Dwight Howard for winning the dunk contest? :rolleyes:


Uhhm, he took a crappy team to the NBA finals without a teammate like Shaq?

If Wade was that great and makes his team better than Lebron then why did he let his team last year had the worst record in the league? Pls. answer that.



And how do you measure one's greatness? of course by the accomplishments, so it is just right to mention how he accomplished his feats at a young age.

Nice post.

You know what? I am hoping this thread gets closed I am sick of debating with these guys.

infamous
12-07-2008, 11:14 PM
Nice post.

You know what? I am hoping this thread gets closed I am sick of debating with these guys.

Thanks. Yes, I'm hoping that too, because it's just getting ridiculous.

Zefflin
12-07-2008, 11:46 PM
Yuck to this thread, I couldn't even drag myself to filter through the semi-intelligent posts by good users. This is like listening to Christopher Reeve argue with Steven Hawking about who's more handicapped.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-07-2008, 11:51 PM
Yuck to this thread, I couldn't even drag myself to filter through the semi-intelligent posts by good users. This is like listening to Christopher Reeve argue with Steven Hawking about who's more handicapped.

I hope this wasn't directed towards me in anyway. To be honest every post I had was only to hopefully shut down his next, which unfortunately would have been a bad one.

umh34
12-08-2008, 12:13 AM
Okay here we go. How many times has Wade avg. 30+ppg? Zero. Lebron twice.

How many times has LeBron averaged 6+rpg? 5 times. Wade Zero.

Okay so you want assist? Guess what they are equal even with LeBron being 6-8 and 240lbs.

Wade has steals, but James has blocks.

Their FG% and 3pt% are fairly equal.

Ok. You know how you said Lebrons stats are down cause he doesnt have to do as much because of his supporting cast? Well thats how its been for Wade his whole career. The roles have been switched where lebron doesnt have to do that much and wade does. thats why wade is leading the league in scoring right now. Wade has .01 less steals then lebron is hes career and has more blocks.

umh34
12-08-2008, 12:15 AM
I actually wanna debate sports now. Not argue about whose smarter lol. sounds stupid so now its respectable debating.

Zefflin
12-08-2008, 12:27 AM
Ok. You know how you said Lebrons stats are down cause he doesnt have to do as much because of his supporting cast? Well thats how its been for Wade his whole career.

Jesus on ice skates are you tripping sac right now??

I'll be the last person to defend Lebron but has he had anyone like Shaq before?


I actually wanna debate sports now. Not argue about whose smarter lol. sounds stupid so now its respectable debating.

Anything involving you and a sports argument is the exact opposite of respectable.

...

You're the worst.


Ever.

umh34
12-08-2008, 12:31 AM
Jesus on ice skates are you tripping sac right now??

I'll be the last person to defend Lebron but has he had anyone like Shaq before?



Anything involving you and a sports argument is the exact opposite of respectable.

...

You're the worst.


Ever.

thats what im saying, Lebrons stats are high cause hes been the only one on his team that can dribble with both hands. Now its Wade. Thats why his stats are up. And how you gonna make a statment like that? We havent even gotten into sports we have been talkin about English class. Try me.

Zefflin
12-08-2008, 12:40 AM
:bang:


:pity:

:sigh:

I can't decide which to choose...they all fit so perfectly!

umh34
12-08-2008, 12:42 AM
:bang:


:pity:

:sigh:

I can't decide which to choose...they all fit so perfectly!

haha.

Jonathan2323
12-08-2008, 01:01 AM
Wade>Lebron

Draco
12-08-2008, 01:12 AM
As a Bull's fan, I'd rather have Lebron than Wade on my team.. I tend to think most fans feel the same way. I also think most scouts, coaches, and professional basketball analysts believe Lebron or Kobe is currently the best player in the league... of course, I'm squarely in the Lebron camp.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-08-2008, 03:29 AM
Ok. You know how you said Lebrons stats are down cause he doesnt have to do as much because of his supporting cast? Well thats how its been for Wade his whole career. The roles have been switched where lebron doesnt have to do that much and wade does. thats why wade is leading the league in scoring right now. Wade has .01 less steals then lebron is hes career and has more blocks.

Now ask yourself who did better though in the state of ''no supporting cast''.

LeBron

Okay and for some future advice.

GIVE UP! You aren't a very good sports debater and you have made yourself only look like a fool insulting me and Cavalier fans.

umh34
12-08-2008, 10:49 AM
Now ask yourself who did better though in the state of ''no supporting cast''.

LeBron

Okay and for some future advice.

GIVE UP! You aren't a very good sports debater and you have made yourself only look like a fool insulting me and Cavalier fans.

Buddy, you havent proved nothing to me at all. stop saying you won and actually give me a reason to not post in here. All i have heard from you is the fact that bron has scored 30+ in 2 seasons and 6+ in 5 seasons along with how terrible of a bebater i am. You haven't shut me down what so ever. Wade is a better defender and anyone with a brain can know that. Hes averaging more blocks than yoa AND lebron, along with a lot of other people. In the clutch im taking wade everytime over bron because he has proved he can win over and over and over again. Bron had a 48 point game against detroit and everyone thought he was God. Give me a break, Wade did that over and over again. Wade can do everything Bron can and more. You arent a very good sports debater because all you say is how you "SHUT ME DOWN" but if you have shut me down why am i coming at you with facts that you cant deny.Wade has made his team better and better every year. Wade mad it to the playoffs his first year. Bron didnt and Bron aslo had boozer. You guys trade away all your players to make bron look desperate and look better.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-08-2008, 11:46 AM
Buddy, you havent proved nothing to me at all. stop saying you won and actually give me a reason to not post in here. All i have heard from you is the fact that bron has scored 30+ in 2 seasons and 6+ in 5 seasons along with how terrible of a bebater i am. You haven't shut me down what so ever. Wade is a better defender and anyone with a brain can know that. Hes averaging more blocks than yoa AND lebron, along with a lot of other people. In the clutch im taking wade everytime over bron because he has proved he can win over and over and over again. Bron had a 48 point game against detroit and everyone thought he was God. Give me a break, Wade did that over and over again. Wade can do everything Bron can and more. You arent a very good sports debater because all you say is how you "SHUT ME DOWN" but if you have shut me down why am i coming at you with facts that you cant deny.Wade has made his team better and better every year. Wade mad it to the playoffs his first year. Bron didnt and Bron aslo had boozer. You guys trade away all your players to make bron look desperate and look better.

Oh wow Wade leads by .1 blocks.. Nice point "buddy" I have shown you already why LeBron is better. LeBron has had seasons like Wade is having now except more then one time, his whole career..

You are funny "Wade has made his team better every year" haha do I even have to comment?

LeBron is pretty clutch too look at his 4th quarter points throughout the years. I will give Wade that, but by no means does that make him better.

"We trade away all our players to make LeBron look desperate" nice fact there, where did you find that in? Do you know facts come from books and real live accounts. Not idiotic ideas..

LeBron's first year he was 18 years of age.. Boozer wasn't nearly as good as he is now. Another poor point by you. By the way who was rookie of the year that season? LeBron at the age of 18!


First and foremost you were shutdown. Are you talking about how dumb/smart I am anymore no. That's why I said you were shutdown.

On the other hand the only reason you keep coming at me is because you have been pretty foolish.

infamous
12-08-2008, 01:41 PM
Buddy, you havent proved nothing to me at all. stop saying you won and actually give me a reason to not post in here. All i have heard from you is the fact that bron has scored 30+ in 2 seasons and 6+ in 5 seasons along with how terrible of a bebater i am. You haven't shut me down what so ever. Wade is a better defender and anyone with a brain can know that. Hes averaging more blocks than yoa AND lebron, along with a lot of other people. In the clutch im taking wade everytime over bron because he has proved he can win over and over and over again. Bron had a 48 point game against detroit and everyone thought he was God. Give me a break, Wade did that over and over again. Wade can do everything Bron can and more. You arent a very good sports debater because all you say is how you "SHUT ME DOWN" but if you have shut me down why am i coming at you with facts that you cant deny.Wade has made his team better and better every year. Wade mad it to the playoffs his first year. Bron didnt and Bron aslo had boozer. You guys trade away all your players to make bron look desperate and look better.

I just don't know what to say anymore.:pity: Ok, let me go down to your level. You guys traded away Shaq and let all of your good players (williams, etc.) go to make Wade look desperate and look better.

How's that?

Jonathan2323
12-08-2008, 01:43 PM
Who won a championship? and dont tell me because of Shaq because he didn't do anything in the finals.

umh34
12-08-2008, 02:42 PM
Oh wow Wade leads by .1 blocks.. Nice point "buddy" I have shown you already why LeBron is better. LeBron has had seasons like Wade is having now except more then one time, his whole career..

You are funny "Wade has made his team better every year" haha do I even have to comment?

LeBron is pretty clutch too look at his 4th quarter points throughout the years. I will give Wade that, but by no means does that make him better.

"We trade away all our players to make LeBron look desperate" nice fact there, where did you find that in? Do you know facts come from books and real live accounts. Not idiotic ideas..

LeBron's first year he was 18 years of age.. Boozer wasn't nearly as good as he is now. Another poor point by you. By the way who was rookie of the year that season? LeBron at the age of 18!


First and foremost you were shutdown. Are you talking about how dumb/smart I am anymore no. That's why I said you were shutdown.

On the other hand the only reason you keep coming at me is because you have been pretty foolish.

DUDE!!! your stuborn. Your not getting it. First, boozer has MAJOR potiental, you dont let a player like that walk. NOT SMART. Second, i don't know how many times i have said Lebron has had great stat seasons because hes the only good player on his team. Wade has shaq whitch brought his numbers down. PAY ATTENTION. Third, I dont think Bron should have for one main reason....Melo made the playoffs, BRON DIDN'T. And dont say melo had a way better team because he didnt. DENVER HAD THE THRID PICK!!!! And your the only one going back to the dumb/smart issue and still calling me names.

umh34
12-08-2008, 02:45 PM
I just don't know what to say anymore.:pity: Ok, let me go down to your level. You guys traded away Shaq and let all of your good players (williams, etc.) go to make Wade look desperate and look better.

How's that?

OK J will retired, Shaq gave up on us so we traded him for a younger player in marion. Your on the same level has your friend there. Its all about going in different direction. J will and shaq have were hurt most of the time playin for us. WOW!!!

umh34
12-08-2008, 02:46 PM
Who won a championship? and dont tell me because of Shaq because he didn't do anything in the finals.

EXACTLY!!! Wade didnt average 34 in the finals with shaqs help he did that on his own.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-08-2008, 03:08 PM
Who won a championship? and dont tell me because of Shaq because he didn't do anything in the finals.

Shaq's presence was good enough.

Dallas's defensive scheme was designed for Shaq.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-08-2008, 03:11 PM
DUDE!!! your stuborn. Your not getting it. First, boozer has MAJOR potiental, you dont let a player like that walk. NOT SMART. Second, i don't know how many times i have said Lebron has had great stat seasons because hes the only good player on his team. Wade has shaq whitch brought his numbers down. PAY ATTENTION. Third, I dont think Bron should have for one main reason....Melo made the playoffs, BRON DIDN'T. And dont say melo had a way better team because he didnt. DENVER HAD THE THRID PICK!!!! And your the only one going back to the dumb/smart issue and still calling me names.

Your a joke! I am not even going to reply to your lack of knowledge haha.

Again though I must say who has done better with less of a supporting cast? The answer is sooo easy LeBron! LeBron actually averaged above 30+ppg 7+rpg and 6+apg with less of a supporting cast.

umh34
12-08-2008, 03:16 PM
Shaq's presence was good enough.

Dallas's defensive scheme was designed for Shaq.

Shaqs presence was to stand there. Dallas's game plan was to double team him when he gets it down. Just like teams still probably do.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-08-2008, 03:18 PM
Shaqs presence was to stand there. Dallas's game plan was to double team him when he gets it down. Just like teams still probably do.

Thanks for proving my point......

James never has had another player to take a double team. He finds himself triple teamed at times.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-08-2008, 03:21 PM
I would take LeBron over Wade even if I were a Heat fan. Its pretty clear that any coach any player and any news reporter would agree. He is a super freak with the athleticism of the greatest athletes and the skill level of the greatest NBA basketball players ever.

umh34
12-08-2008, 03:22 PM
Thanks for proving my point......

James never has had another player to take a double team. He finds himself triple teamed at times.

And wade doesnt? He was being triple teamed in the finals but still tourched them.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-08-2008, 03:24 PM
And wade doesnt? He was being triple teamed in the finals but still tourched them.

Not nearly as much as LeBron my friend not nearly as much. Especially during the time Shaq played with the Heat.

umh34
12-08-2008, 03:31 PM
[QUOTE=CHief_0_o_Wahoo;7587163]Not nearly as much as LeBron my friend not nearly as much. Especially during the time Shaq played with the Heat.[/QUOTE

I guess

edla423
12-08-2008, 04:18 PM
lebron wayyyyyyy better

JordansBulls
12-08-2008, 04:56 PM
lebron wayyyyyyy better


He may be better, but he isn't wayyyy better. Wade is just as statistically productive as Lebron.

NYKnickFanatic
12-08-2008, 04:59 PM
LeBron is better than Wade.
Thats all that needs to be said.

Zefflin
12-08-2008, 05:40 PM
Its pretty clear that any coach any player and any news reporter would agree.

You don't know that.


He is a super freak with the athleticism of the greatest athletes

True.


and the skill level of the greatest NBA basketball players ever.

Not quite, not yet at least.

Randomsportsfan
12-08-2008, 07:22 PM
statistically this year wade is better. but look at the heat ok they have marion. but then look at the cavs lebron hasnt played a whole fourth quarter for like the last eight games and he finally has other players and the bench producing points to help the team which i really like because Bron is rested for every game which is also nice. but i believe lebron is the better leader and game changing performer so therefore i think he's the better player

celticfan
12-08-2008, 07:42 PM
I think they are both good but Wade is playing a little better right now

Cavs_Fan24
12-08-2008, 10:29 PM
^ Ture. But that's as an individual. Not saying Miami has had a good season so far, they've had a decent season so far, but Cleveland's been arguably the third best team in the NBA so far.

daleja424
12-08-2008, 11:25 PM
statistically this year wade is better. but look at the heat ok they have marion. but then look at the cavs lebron hasnt played a whole fourth quarter for like the last eight games and he finally has other players and the bench producing points to help the team which i really like because Bron is rested for every game which is also nice. but i believe lebron is the better leader and game changing performer so therefore i think he's the better player

Thats where I think you are dead wrong. Wade is the biggest game changer in the game...

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-09-2008, 12:05 AM
Thats where I think you are dead wrong. Wade is the biggest game changer in the game...

Game changing performers are tremendous in many statistical categories. LeBron beat Wade in a few statistical categories.

I think you could be just as "dead wrong", but why wouldn't you say your teams best player is the best?

Its a debate that will never be resolved. Both great players, both good at certain things, and bad at others.

EdTheRevelator
12-09-2008, 12:38 AM
LMAO at this thread:laugh:

I'm shocked this thread wasn't closed down like 5 pages ago. Sbank must be out of town or something. :laugh2:

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-09-2008, 05:55 AM
LMAO at this thread:laugh:

I'm shocked this thread wasn't closed down like 5 pages ago. Sbank must be out of town or something. :laugh2:

I know right? I definitely have a good amount of posts that would be deleted. I was just trying to fight the good fight though. haha

EdTheRevelator
12-09-2008, 04:20 PM
I know right? I definitely have a good amount of posts that would be deleted. I was just trying to fight the good fight though. haha

Keep fighting brother, keep fighting.

enabring
12-09-2008, 11:51 PM
"Wade has .01 less steals then lebron is hes career and has more blocks."

How do the rebound statistics look there, champ? Oh and Lebron has less turn overs (2.0 less) with .1 more assists. You are going to get into a stat discussion against Lebron?!?!? You are more of a moron than your past posts. Look at the stats, you said it yourself. I guess I have to post this again. Here we go, sorry you weren't listening.

Lebron 27.3 pts, 6.6 asts, 6.9 rebounds, 3.3 tos, .8 blocks, 1.8 steals, 32% 3s, 47% fgs
Wade 24.2 pts, 6.5 asts, 4.9 rebounds, 3.9 tos, .9 blocks, 1.8 steals, 26% 3s, 50% fgs

Ok, thats 3.1 points for Lebron, .1 asts for Lebron, 2.0 rebounds for Lebron, .1 blocks for Wade, even on steals, 6% for Lebron on 3s, and 3% for fgs for Wade.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-10-2008, 02:46 PM
"Wade has .01 less steals then lebron is hes career and has more blocks."

How do the rebound statistics look there, champ? Oh and Lebron has less turn overs (2.0 less) with .1 more assists. You are going to get into a stat discussion against Lebron?!?!? You are more of a moron than your past posts. Look at the stats, you said it yourself. I guess I have to post this again. Here we go, sorry you weren't listening.

Lebron 27.3 pts, 6.6 asts, 6.9 rebounds, 3.3 tos, .8 blocks, 1.8 steals, 32% 3s, 47% fgs
Wade 24.2 pts, 6.5 asts, 4.9 rebounds, 3.9 tos, .9 blocks, 1.8 steals, 26% 3s, 50% fgs

Ok, thats 3.1 points for Lebron, .1 asts for Lebron, 2.0 rebounds for Lebron, .1 blocks for Wade, even on steals, 6% for Lebron on 3s, and 3% for fgs for Wade.

I don't understand why he doesn't get it. Looks clear to me LeBron is better..

Jonathan2323
12-10-2008, 02:51 PM
there is no one better in the clutch than D Wade...example 2006 finals. i doubt Lebron could have done that.

umh34
12-10-2008, 03:20 PM
"Wade has .01 less steals then lebron is hes career and has more blocks."

How do the rebound statistics look there, champ? Oh and Lebron has less turn overs (2.0 less) with .1 more assists. You are going to get into a stat discussion against Lebron?!?!? You are more of a moron than your past posts. Look at the stats, you said it yourself. I guess I have to post this again. Here we go, sorry you weren't listening.

Lebron 27.3 pts, 6.6 asts, 6.9 rebounds, 3.3 tos, .8 blocks, 1.8 steals, 32% 3s, 47% fgs
Wade 24.2 pts, 6.5 asts, 4.9 rebounds, 3.9 tos, .9 blocks, 1.8 steals, 26% 3s, 50% fgs

Ok, thats 3.1 points for Lebron, .1 asts for Lebron, 2.0 rebounds for Lebron, .1 blocks for Wade, even on steals, 6% for Lebron on 3s, and 3% for fgs for Wade.

YEAH!! BRONS 6'8", CLOWN!!!!! and of course hes going to have better stats for his career, WADE HAD SHAQ TO TAKE AWAY HIS STATS!!! you people are ridiculous.

umh34
12-10-2008, 03:21 PM
there is no one better in the clutch than D Wade...example 2006 finals. i doubt Lebron could have done that.

He can't. He proved it 07

Jonathan2323
12-11-2008, 12:02 AM
the debate continues.....

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-11-2008, 12:53 AM
YEAH!! BRONS 6'8", CLOWN!!!!! and of course hes going to have better stats for his career, WADE HAD SHAQ TO TAKE AWAY HIS STATS!!! you people are ridiculous.

Ask anyone that doesn't live in Miami or Florida and isn't a homer and they will say LeBron is better. Quit being ignorant kid.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-11-2008, 12:55 AM
Since when does being clutch prove how good a player is? Derek Fish, Robert Horry,Gilbert Arenas, are all clutch but aren't nearly the best player in the league. LeBron has one of the highest 4th quarter averages every year..

cahawk
12-11-2008, 01:33 AM
I like Wade & he is the most exciting but I always worry about him getting injured.
And Lebron how can anyone watching question that Lebron has not been the best in the NBA, lebron was the real mvp last year & will be this year.

And when I hear laker fans knock Lebron & Wade, they always say they don't have consistent shots & 3pt shots.
Yet, when I looked up the stats, this year, as always, they both are shooting a good deal higher fg % than kobe. And this seasons 3pt% is higher than kobe's also.

amwpr86
12-11-2008, 02:21 AM
James is the better player. He's less injury prone. He has better court vision. He was the most productive player in the 4th quarter last year. He took the best team in the Nba to game 7 in the playoffs and almost beat them. He never let his team be the worst in the NBA. And bring up that ring if you want to say that is why Wade is better. Wade beat an OFFENSIVE powerhouse in the finals with the help of Shaq's presence, because you still have to account for him. Lebron lost to a DEFENSIVE powerhouse with a weak team with no one BUT Lebron to account for. Big difference in my opinion. Lebron could have put up 50 easily on the Mavs in the Finals. I could keep going, but it pointless. Just like this thread.

umh34
12-11-2008, 12:40 PM
James is the better player. He's less injury prone. He has better court vision. He was the most productive player in the 4th quarter last year. He took the best team in the Nba to game 7 in the playoffs and almost beat them. He never let his team be the worst in the NBA. And bring up that ring if you want to say that is why Wade is better. Wade beat an OFFENSIVE powerhouse in the finals with the help of Shaq's presence, because you still have to account for him. Lebron lost to a DEFENSIVE powerhouse with a weak team with no one BUT Lebron to account for. Big difference in my opinion. Lebron could have put up 50 easily on the Mavs in the Finals. I could keep going, but it pointless. Just like this thread.

Yeah i see what your saying but last year Wade was hurt so that record isnt completely on him even though he did play about 50 games. I wouldnt neccessarily say hes injury prone yet, if he gets hurt again then yeah but not yet. But that offensive powerhouse beat that defensive power house to go to the finals. The presence of Shaq may have been a factor but When it mattered the Heat didnt get the ball to Shaq they got it to Wade, who was being triple teamed. But As for lebron taking Boston to 7 games, who didnt beside the lakers? Idk if Detroit did or not but either way so did Atlanta. But the court vision i would say its about even, they both are very good passers.

umh34
12-11-2008, 12:44 PM
Ask anyone that doesn't live in Miami or Florida and isn't a homer and they will say LeBron is better. Quit being ignorant kid.

I am going to be ignorant to people who make statments like that all day. When someone actually wants to talk about the topic and not make obvious points like who scores more in their career. Im not trying to be rude, i was before just to get under people skin but im not now. So get over your hurt feelings and everything will be ok.

amwpr86
12-11-2008, 02:08 PM
Yeah i see what your saying but last year Wade was hurt so that record isnt completely on him even though he did play about 50 games. I wouldnt neccessarily say hes injury prone yet, if he gets hurt again then yeah but not yet. But that offensive powerhouse beat that defensive power house to go to the finals. The presence of Shaq may have been a factor but When it mattered the Heat didnt get the ball to Shaq they got it to Wade, who was being triple teamed. But As for lebron taking Boston to 7 games, who didnt beside the lakers? Idk if Detroit did or not but either way so did Atlanta. But the court vision i would say its about even, they both are very good passers.

Yea and the Heat were 11-50 before he stopped playing so he had a part in that in my opinion. Plus, all I said was Lebron is less injury prone. And so what if the Mavs beat the Spurs. The Spurs took them to game 7 that year. And they won the finals the year before and after. Which is why I still think its a big difference when the Cavs had to play the Spurs. Plus, the Heat lost to the Bulls in the first round the following year and didn't make the playoffs the next. And don't compare us taking Boston to game 7 with ATL. They got detroyed if it wasn't a home game. The Cavs actually almost beat them unlike any other team that year. And no, Detroit only took them to 6. And I still do not think Wade has better court vision. Wade led the league in to's per game last year and the year before and is #1 this year.

umh34
12-11-2008, 03:22 PM
Yea and the Heat were 11-50 before he stopped playing so he had a part in that in my opinion. Plus, all I said was Lebron is less injury prone. And so what if the Mavs beat the Spurs. The Spurs took them to game 7 that year. And they won the finals the year before and after. Which is why I still think its a big difference when the Cavs had to play the Spurs. Plus, the Heat lost to the Bulls in the first round the following year and didn't make the playoffs the next. And don't compare us taking Boston to game 7 with ATL. They got detroyed if it wasn't a home game. The Cavs actually almost beat them unlike any other team that year. And no, Detroit only took them to 6. And I still do not think Wade has better court vision. Wade led the league in to's per game last year and the year before and is #1 this year.

Yeah he turns the ball over cause the ball is always in his hands. Bron has the ball in his hands the whole game as well but when bron gets it he goes. Wades style is he wants to create for him or others. I didnt think Detroit took em to 7 but ATL isnt that bad either. And the bulls destroyed us, i cant even make an arguement for that. I was so mad. But IMO i think taking the fact that the roles for each player have kinda been switched, Wade is the best in the game this year. You have to admit that. But do you think if Wade didnt have shaq his numbers would be up there with Brons?

amwpr86
12-11-2008, 04:01 PM
Yeah he turns the ball over cause the ball is always in his hands. Bron has the ball in his hands the whole game as well but when bron gets it he goes. Wades style is he wants to create for him or others.

You must not watch many Cavs games if that is what you think. Plus, Lebron creates for himself and others as well. Lebron is probably the most unselfish superstar in the league.


But IMO i think taking the fact that the roles for each player have kinda been switched, Wade is the best in the game this year. You have to admit that. But do you think if Wade didnt have shaq his numbers would be up there with Brons?

Their roles haven't been really switched the Cavs are just a really good team this year. The Cavs still need Lebron no matter what. He rarely even plays in the 4th quarter which is why Wade appears to be the better player this year. If Lebron played every game in its entirety then this thread probably wouldn't have been created IMO. And if Wade didn't have Shaq his numbers might even be worse. You would still have Caron Butler, and Lamar Odom. Shaq has had a problem with staying healthy with the heat, but he didn't take away from Wade's stats like Odom and Butler would have.

wylie
12-11-2008, 04:02 PM
Come on, seriously, take off the blinders. Wade is good, but LBJ is better. Period. But you're gonna see things through your tunnel vision, so there is no point trying to talk to you.

wylie
12-11-2008, 04:04 PM
Lebron is probably the most unselfish superstar in the league.

He'll never see that. How many triple doubles has Wade had?

umh34
12-11-2008, 04:29 PM
He'll never see that. How many triple doubles has Wade had?

a few.

enabring
12-11-2008, 10:44 PM
YEAH!! BRONS 6'8", CLOWN!!!!! and of course hes going to have better stats for his career, WADE HAD SHAQ TO TAKE AWAY HIS STATS!!! you people are ridiculous.

THAT'S RIGHT!!!! 6'8", There's another reason he's better. He's also 270. Oh, and faster than Wade. They were talking about it on ESPN about how he is probably among the fastest in the league. They mentioned Tony Parker and a few others. Your little boy wasn't mentioned. Plus Lebron has more assists in his career and never had Shaq to bulk up that stat. And steals are the same. Oh, wait, he's 6'8", he has an advantage on steals and assists. Oh, that's right those are generally stats that point guards excel at. Sorry I am a clown because Lebron can play four positions and Wade can only play one. Thanks for helping make another point that I hadn't brought up. Who's side are you on, anyways, you don't seem to be helping Wade out.

EdTheRevelator
12-11-2008, 10:57 PM
He can't. He proved it 07

...when he took a Cavs team to the finals that had no business being there, except for LeBron.

Wade had Shaq and others. James had Z ... at best.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-12-2008, 01:24 AM
THAT'S RIGHT!!!! 6'8", There's another reason he's better. He's also 270. Oh, and faster than Wade. They were talking about it on ESPN about how is probably among the fastest in the league. They mentioned Tony Parker and a few other. Your little boy wasn't mentioned. Plus Lebron has more assists in his career and never had Shaq to bulk up that stat. And steals are the same. Oh, wait, he's 6'8", he has an advantage on steals and assists. Oh, that's right those are generally stats that point guards excel at. Sorry I am a clown because Lebron can play four positions and Wade can only play one. Thanks for helping make another point that I hadn't brought up. Who's side are you on, anyways, you don't seem to be helping Wade out.


...when he took a Cavs team to the finals that had no business being there, except for LeBron.

Wade had Shaq and others. James had Z ... at best.

Yeah both very good posts with good points. Another reason why Umh is extremely wrong.. How is this ignorant>

"Ask anyone and they will take LeBron over Wade any day..." Please tell me how I am being ignorant ? Truth is better then you just being a homer KID..

enabring
12-12-2008, 02:17 PM
Oh, look at Hollinger's Player Efficiency Ratings. You keep saying that Wades stats are better this year. I think we have an expert that begs to differ.

1 LeBron James, 32.63
2 Dwyane Wade, 31.94

For full breakdown of the stats see:
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics?&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba %2fhollinger%2fstatistics

Ethix11
12-13-2008, 05:10 PM
When Wade had Knee and Shoulder Surgeries, everyone was quick to say that Wade wasent that good when the Heat won 15 games. The season before when he got eliminated in the first round to the Bulls, its because he needed Knee and Shoulder Surgeries. My point is, they're both great. One is not far superior to the other. I dont know who is better because obviously teams are a factor in determining your stats at the end of the day. The Heat are rebuilding, the Cavs are in win now mode. You cant ask a guy that just came off of multiple surgeries to take a team to the promised land if you havent played with them your whole career. Hey, i hope Lebron never gets hurt as bad as Wade, but it was stupid for the league, "almighty analists included" to say that Wade wasent that good. Watch this only if you care about Wade's point of view.
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3763184&categoryId=2459788&n8pe6c=2

MilfHunter07
12-13-2008, 05:24 PM
You know when someone loses a argument when they resort to taunting. Real classy.

Wade is better then Lebron. And your alway's using that cheap comeback of "wade had Shaq." please :rolleyes: Point is who has a ring, that's what it all come's down too.

b_rad23
12-13-2008, 05:25 PM
Yeah both very good posts with good points. Another reason why Umh is extremely wrong.. How is this ignorant>

"Ask anyone and they will take LeBron over Wade any day..." Please tell me how I am being ignorant ? Truth is better then you just being a homer KID..

Sorry to ruin your little love fest but the guy was wrong. Wade is averaging 1 assist more and more SPG. Not only that but the 6'4" guard is averaging more BPG than the 6'8" LBJ.

He's more than 2 points better this year. He's just having a better statistical year.

Hollinger's stats are interesting but by no means are they proven, end-all stats. Even he will admit to that.

Anyways, those 2 are easily the top 2 in the NBA this year and play very similarly. It's tough to compare. I take Wade, if only because he is more mature and he's got a ring. I don't think any team would be too upset to have either though.

MilfHunter07
12-13-2008, 05:29 PM
...when he took a Cavs team to the finals that had no business being there, except for LeBron.

Wade had Shaq and others. James had Z ... at best.

Trust me it's Impossiable for one player to make it to the Final's by themselves. The Cav's weren't that good on offense as a team but the sure as hell were on Defense. The Cav's have been one of the best teams defensive in the last 4 years and like people say Defense win's championships. So your Argument is weak. And for the guy who said wade can only play 1 postion, doesn't know anything about basketball.:rolleyes: And should quit posting his low IQ posts.

MilfHunter07
12-13-2008, 05:31 PM
Yeah both very good posts with good points. Another reason why Umh is extremely wrong.. How is this ignorant>

"Ask anyone and they will take LeBron over Wade any day..." Please tell me how I am being ignorant ? Truth is better then you just being a homer KID..

Does everyone that is a Cleveland fan have a low IQ? please tell me how those two post are very good post's? when half the thing's they wrote made no sense.:rolleyes:

Cavs_Fan24
12-13-2008, 06:40 PM
^Seriously, just dont talk. Your not proving anything, jsut taht you cant take the truth, Wade is NOT better then LeBron. Wade is easily one of the best in teh NBA, no question, and he is one of my favourite players to watch, but he is just not as good as LeBron.

Cavs_Fan24
12-13-2008, 06:46 PM
Wade is better then Lebron. And your alway's using that cheap comeback of "wade had Shaq." please :rolleyes: Point is who has a ring, that's what it all come's down too.


Just because he has a ring does NOT have anything to do with him being a better player.

-Is Chauncey Billups better then LeBron James too then?:confused:
-Luc Longley has something like 6 rings right? Well, he is obviously better then Dwyane Wade then cuz he only has 1:)
-Robert Horry has plenty of rings, so that means he is WAAAY better then Charles Barkley and Karl Malone correct?

See, what you just said doesn't do justice to "who's better" at all.

b_rad23
12-13-2008, 11:24 PM
Just because he has a ring does NOT have anything to do with him being a better player.

-Is Chauncey Billups better then LeBron James too then?:confused:
-Luc Longley has something like 6 rings right? Well, he is obviously better then Dwyane Wade then cuz he only has 1:)
-Robert Horry has plenty of rings, so that means he is WAAAY better then Charles Barkley and Karl Malone correct?

See, what you just said doesn't do justice to "who's better" at all.

While having a ring by itself doesn't make a great player, it is enough to push one of two otherwise equally matched players above the other.

The object of the game is to win. The better player will find a way to win.

EdTheRevelator
12-14-2008, 12:26 AM
Trust me it's Impossiable for one player to make it to the Final's by themselves. The Cav's weren't that good on offense as a team but the sure as hell were on Defense. The Cav's have been one of the best teams defensive in the last 4 years and like people say Defense win's championships. So your Argument is weak.

Um, why? Ok so we had a great defense...but nobody besides LeBron could score. Seriously. It was maddening watching that team. You need to score some points to win. And if you research it, that Cavs team was one of the worst Finals teams.

And it's Cavs. Not Cav's. Cav's would be the possessive of a Cav.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-14-2008, 01:45 AM
Trust me it's Impossiable for one player to make it to the Final's by themselves. The Cav's weren't that good on offense as a team but the sure as hell were on Defense. The Cav's have been one of the best teams defensive in the last 4 years and like people say Defense win's championships. So your Argument is weak. And for the guy who said wade can only play 1 postion, doesn't know anything about basketball.:rolleyes: And should quit posting his low IQ posts.


Does everyone that is a Cleveland fan have a low IQ? please tell me how those two post are very good post's? when half the thing's they wrote made no sense.:rolleyes:

Anyone who knows anything about the game of basketball knows defense only gets you so far.. You still have to score and we didn't have that many scorers other then LeBron.


They actually were good posts that proved very good points. Your only argument to them was Cleveland defense was good so LeBron taking a team that lacked offense doesn't mean anything... Who has the low IQ now??

Your point is weaker then Ed's, and mine don't even start with me and his basketball IQ or even Cleveland fans IQ.. I may not know Ed or every Cleveland fan, but I will stick up for them, and him..

Wow you seriously have a blog entry? You didn't even know it takes more then just defense to win championships...... Puh..lease

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-14-2008, 01:57 AM
Sorry to ruin your little love fest but the guy was wrong. than tWade is averaging 1 assist more and more SPG. Not only that but the 6'4" guard is averaging more BPG he 6'8" LBJ.

He's more than 2 points better this year. He's just having a better statistical year.

Hollinger's stats are interesting but by no means are they proven, end-all stats. Even he will admit to that.

Anyways, those 2 are easily the top 2 in the NBA this year and play very similarly. It's tough to compare. I take Wade, if only because he is more mature and he's got a ring. I don't think any team would be too upset to have either though.

Nice try your wrong though buddy.. If your talking about careers LeBron .1 better in assist, and they have the same steals.. Not to mention career is more important then just one season LeBron has a higher career average in PPG if you didn't know that either..hah

Okay? So he is 6'8'' and averages .1 less blocks then a 6'4'' Wade.. Okay then how does that 6'8'' guy tie him in steals and beats him in apg?

scebbs9
12-14-2008, 07:49 PM
i think lebron is sick **** put that on ur magazine

umh34
12-18-2008, 03:37 PM
Why are you comparing Lebrons stats to Wades? Of course he has better stats then Wade. You basing your argument off that. All im saying is Wade is better at D and in the clutch. That is why I say Wade is better. Lebron is the man, im not taking anything away from him at all.

Cavs_Fan24
12-18-2008, 04:44 PM
Why are you comparing Lebrons stats to Wades? Of course he has better stats then Wade. You basing your argument off that. All im saying is Wade is better at D and in the clutch. That is why I say Wade is better. Lebron is the man, im not taking anything away from him at all.

Probably to help prove a ponit that LeBron gets it done better then Wade in every category. And being better on D (supposedly) and in the clutch doesn't rule out all the other things LeBron is better then Wade at. Soo if Wade's (supposedly) better at 2 things then LeBron, he's better at everything, which to most people would make him the better player.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-18-2008, 07:13 PM
Why are you comparing Lebrons stats to Wades? Of course he has better stats then Wade. You basing your argument off that. All im saying is Wade is better at D and in the clutch. That is why I say Wade is better. Lebron is the man, im not taking anything away from him at all.

Wow are you being serious right now??

What else is more important in comparing two excellent players, their stats or their ability to be clutch one or two times a season??

umh34
12-18-2008, 08:05 PM
Wow are you being serious right now??

What else is more important in comparing two excellent players, their stats or their ability to be clutch one or two times a season??

Your not getting it. Your just not getting it. Im done trying to debate with you cause your not smart. Bye.

EdTheRevelator
12-18-2008, 08:30 PM
Your not getting it. Your just not getting it. Im done trying to debate with you cause your not smart. Bye.

This is how a smart person would have stated what you said:


You're not getting it. You're just not getting it. Im done trying to debate with you cause you're not smart. Bye.

G-Funk
12-19-2008, 12:43 AM
I think Wade is. Cavs just love stats. They don't even watch games just stats.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-19-2008, 02:03 AM
I think Wade is. Cavs just love stats. They don't even watch games just stats.

Yeah good call all we do is like to watch stats they are fun to watch. Especially when they prove more then any one thing in the NBA..

EdTheRevelator
12-19-2008, 02:03 AM
I think Wade is. Cavs just love stats. They don't even watch games just stats.

What does that even mean?:confused:

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-19-2008, 02:08 AM
Your not getting it. Your just not getting it. Im done trying to debate with you cause your not smart. Bye.


This is how a smart person would have stated what you said:

Haha!

Umh quit going back to intelligence its not working for you at all.

My points are correct I would rather have a guy who puts up good numbers and wins consistently with bad teams then a guy who only when surrounded by great players wins.

Imagine what happens when you surround that player that puts up good numbers and wins consistently with great players..

Your only argument I have seen is Wade is more clutch. Don't even tell me Wade is better at D when he averages the same amount of steals and .1 blocks more then LeBron.

Do I have to go back to the things LeBron is statistically better then Wade at?

The reason I bring stats up is because stats don't have an opinion, and are always true to the game.

CHief_0_o_Wahoo
12-19-2008, 02:16 AM
What does that even mean?:confused:

The problem is Ed I don't think it does have meaning.:laugh2:

BenFrank
12-19-2008, 12:49 PM
@ this point.. I would say lebron's the better person by a hair.. Wade's not gonna stay with the heat in his contract year.. he's going 2 houston.. cuz we're givin T-mac @$$ tha boot

wylie
12-19-2008, 01:29 PM
:bang::bang::crazy::crazy::bang::bang:

Bg7getclutch
12-19-2008, 07:11 PM
Lebron is better than wade. He takes it stronger to the whole. Dwayne wade settles for to many jumshots sometimes. Also, Lebron has a better supporting cast than wade which means he doesn't have to try as hard. Wade has no one. Beasely is not playing that well and he sucks at defense. Shawn marion is ok i guess.

Jahari Kavi
12-20-2008, 01:20 PM
personally I think they are the 2 best players in the NBA....to be honest you can't go wrong with either, but James size and ability to do so many things makes me give the edge to Bron.............


Dwayne wade settles for to many jumshots sometimes.

wow....D Wade attacks the basket as much as any star that I've ever seen. He's always looking to attack the rim..

LeBrowns
12-21-2008, 01:48 AM
I think that it is inarguable that Dwyane Wade could take the teams LeBron had earlier in his career and lead them to 50 win seasons and the NBA finals.

Jonathan2323
12-21-2008, 01:50 AM
D wade=B I W

LeBrowns
12-21-2008, 02:09 AM
Heat fans are getting stiffys left and right because Wade is leading the league in scoring when his team may not even get in the playoffs. You know who led the league in scoring last year? Lebron, which in a Heat fans perspective is LOL BEST PLAYER!

Jonathan2323
12-27-2008, 04:18 PM
Wade wil show why he is better than Lebron the next two games.

enabring
12-27-2008, 07:45 PM
Wade wil show why he is better than Lebron the next to games.

The next what games? Why are all of the Wade supporters illiterate morons? But you are right about one thing; We will see who is better and will make sure to take into account how many minutes each player plays.

EdTheRevelator
12-28-2008, 01:03 AM
Why is this thread still going?:confused:

mcb
12-28-2008, 08:42 AM
LJ is a f'n freak that the NBA has never seen b4, however he has yet to prove that he can carry a team on his back to win a championship like Michael, Magic, Larry, and Dwade :) ... Ability: LJ > DW Winner: LJ < DW.

my predictions for 2010:
LJames - Nets (JayZ)
DWade - Ny
Stoudemire - NY
Nash - NY

I'm an NBA fan, also a pro gambler, call it how i c it.

uchiha
12-28-2008, 11:18 AM
Heat fans are getting stiffys left and right because Wade is leading the league in scoring when his team may not even get in the playoffs. You know who led the league in scoring last year? Lebron, which in a Heat fans perspective is LOL BEST PLAYER!

This season we have already beaten the Spurs, Suns, and Jazz on the road and the Lakers at home. I think it is safe to say that we can win enough games to make the playoffs.

I am not going to get into a debate about who is the better team, because I think that Cleveland is the more complete team right now and I don't think it is necessary to argue about whether LBJ or Wade is the better player. They are the top two players in the league and both are the only reason their teams are winning.

b_rad23
12-28-2008, 02:08 PM
The next what games? Why are all of the Wade supporters illiterate morons? But you are right about one thing; We will see who is better and will make sure to take into account how many minutes each player plays.

If you insist on being a smart-***, you should know that you made a few mistakes in your grammar in your critiques. For one, the word following a semicolon is NOT capitalized. Next you should learn that you need to put a comma before the "and" when you are combining two independent clauses.

Genius.

heatbb
12-28-2008, 02:17 PM
You know, as a Heat fan it's tough to say that LBJ is better but he is. This season Wade has carried our team by himself as Lebron has sat out most of the 4th quarters and he is still 2nd in scoring not too far from D-Wade. That tells smth already. ;)
LB is bigger, stronger and doesn't lose that much in speed to Wade. He puts up almost same numbers in assists and gets 2 more rebounds than Wade. Still, tonight will tell us the truth.

kingjanjic
12-28-2008, 02:53 PM
seriouly when will people figure out that just because somone scores alot, it dosnt make him better then anyone, first of all, lebron dosnt need to score, he has a solid team so his numbers r down, ( i dunno if i put it in bold, then maybe finally people will releize the point)

2nd of all, wade team is garbage, n if wade dosnt score 30+, they lose, is lebron n wade better then kobe cuz they r averaging higher points? NOOOO, if kobe wants to average 35 points a game, he can ..... n he has, but clearly when teams mature n get better, the scoring gets spread out more

im sick of these bull **** treads, fo real how hard is it to figure that scoring will drop when there teams get better

MiamiHeat
12-28-2008, 03:18 PM
seriouly when will people figure out that just because somone scores alot, it dosnt make him better then anyone, first of all, lebron dosnt need to score, he has a solid team so his numbers r down, ( i dunno if i put it in bold, then maybe finally people will releize the point)

2nd of all, wade team is garbage, n if wade dosnt score 30+, they lose, is lebron n wade better then kobe cuz they r averaging higher points? NOOOO, if kobe wants to average 35 points a game, he can ..... n he has, but clearly when teams mature n get better, the scoring gets spread out more

im sick of these bull **** treads, fo real how hard is it to figure that scoring will drop when there teams get better
oh really?
last game he scored 28 and we won by 10+
:p

heatbb
12-28-2008, 04:20 PM
You understand that it's a bad example? :p We really do lose if he has only an average game. :(

MiamiHeat
12-28-2008, 04:29 PM
You understand that it's a bad example? :p We really do lose if he has only an average game. :(

Lol I was messing with him but he did say 30+ if not we lose
well 28 points and we won :D

SwaggaIke
12-28-2008, 08:38 PM
The thing I say these days is D Wade has already done what LeBron and Kobe are doing now. Toning down their individual games in order for their teams to be championship contenders. Wade has already been there and done that. Now its his time to carry his team on his shoulders night in and night out. Kobe and LeBron have already done that. Both players are vastly improved defensively, but at the end of the day I take Wade. I don't think LeBron is as good of a shooter as Wade now that he has extended out to 3 point range a little bit. And not only does Wade have to carry his team offensively, he is our best defender on a team w/ two other STELLAR defenders. Like I said, it comes down to personal preference, i'd take either player either day...but Wade is my guy.

infamous
12-28-2008, 10:59 PM
Wade wil show why he is better than Lebron the next two games.

Uhhmm.. Ok.. :rolleyes: