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Cubs Man 5
12-04-2008, 06:53 PM
I honestly believe this is a legitimate question. He's averaging something like 18/6/5, and really has no help on the team.

People who haven't seen him will say no, but I honestly believe people who have seen him will agree with me.

Westbrook36
12-04-2008, 06:54 PM
I mean hes playing Outstanding, Hes a Top 10 PG this season.

Top 30 would be better I wouldnt say Top 20, Yet.

barreleffact
12-04-2008, 06:56 PM
NO!!!! The man is a beast, should make the allstar team IMO, and he is a top 5 PG. However, people are going to overrate him apparently. Give the man some time, but he is NOT top 20 right now...not just yet

cmellofan15
12-04-2008, 06:57 PM
Not at all top 20...:pity:

Second City
12-04-2008, 06:57 PM
Not yet, there are a lot of great players out there. But he will only get better as the season goes on.

cmellofan15
12-04-2008, 06:58 PM
NO!!!! The man is a beast, should make the allstar team IMO, and he is a top 5 PG. However, people are going to overrate him apparently. Give the man some time, but he is NOT top 20 right now...not just yet


:confused:


Paul
Williams
Kidd
Nash
Parker
Billups
Iverson
Terry
Davis
Arenas

Defintely not top 5, you must be the one overrating him.

nygiants242
12-04-2008, 06:59 PM
not yet top 20

ATX
12-04-2008, 07:01 PM
Rose has started the season better than anyone could have projected. Top 50 for sure....but 20? Not yet, but soon he will be!

Cubs Man 5
12-04-2008, 07:03 PM
:confused:


Paul
Williams
Kidd
Nash
Parker
Billups
Iverson
Terry
Davis
Arenas

Defintely not top 5, you must be the one overrating him.

Rose is better right now then Nash, Terry. He's going to be grouped in with Paul and Williams next year, and should make the All-Star team with Devin Harris this year.

I will puke if A.I. makes it.

Westbrook36
12-04-2008, 07:04 PM
:confused:


Paul
Williams
Kidd
Nash
Parker
Billups
Iverson
Terry
Davis
Arenas

Defintely not top 5, you must be the one overrating him.

Better then Jason Terry and Agent Zero IMO. Steve Nash hasnt been great this season.

Paul
Williams
Kidd
Baron Davis
Tony Parker or C-Billups
Tony Parker or C-Billups
Nash
Devin Harris / Rose/ Calderon / Andre Miller / Rondo.

phlp_bj
12-04-2008, 07:06 PM
:confused:


Paul
Williams
Kidd
Nash
Parker
Billups
Iverson
Terry
Davis
Arenas

Defintely not top 5, you must be the one overrating him.

terry is regarded more as a sg. arenas is injured so wouldnt be on the list.

The Blue Baller
12-04-2008, 07:08 PM
:confused:


Paul
Williams
Kidd
Nash
Parker
Billups
Iverson
Terry
Davis
Arenas

Defintely not top 5, you must be the one overrating him.

Well if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black...

The Answer3
12-04-2008, 07:09 PM
Rose is better right now then Nash, Terry. He's going to be grouped in with Paul and Williams next year, and should make the All-Star team with Devin Harris this year.

I will puke if A.I. makes it.


I'll admit Devin Harris and D-Rose are more deserving than AI and have had the better season. But it's obvious AI will start since he's popular.

uchiha
12-04-2008, 07:13 PM
top 20 player? my god these threads are getting absurd

Draco
12-04-2008, 07:17 PM
Another PG related thread lol

NBAkYD
12-04-2008, 07:18 PM
No, obviously no. I do believe he gets there eventually.

KobeIs
12-04-2008, 07:19 PM
Wow, I like Derrick Rose and all but him a Top 20 player?? Especially after only a month of play??

Na man. :down: :down:

rosesbulls
12-04-2008, 08:05 PM
No might be top 30 not top 20. He is a top 10 and pssibly top 5 but more towards the unlikely side

Top 10 pgs
CP3
Williams
TP
Nash
Calderon/ Rose/ Harris / Davis/ Agent Zero/ Biillups
11 Kidd

Kidd is a defensive liability and has almost dropped to average

Nash will most likely be behind all of the players in the 5-10 spot next season. He has always been a defensive liability even in his MVP seasons but worse this year, Also he has had just above average #s with 15/8 might be able to argue the two front runner atm in the 5-10 race (Harris) are already better then him with 24/6 and Billups 19/7 (sense denver trade)

TMAC94
12-04-2008, 08:34 PM
no, top 50 if lucky imo

barreleffact
12-04-2008, 08:40 PM
:confused:


Paul
Williams
Kidd
Nash
Parker
Billups
Iverson
Terry
Davis
Arenas

Defintely not top 5, you must be the one overrating him.

Wrong....
Paul- Of course- 1
Williams- Of course- 2
Kidd- On the Decline. Rose has more value and is alreadys about as efficient
Nash- Massive Defensive liability, better passer for now and def a better shooter, but he is far from the "unguardable" label and Rose is considered to be almost that and has the tools to be an elite defender
Parker- Less athletic version of Rose. Id take Rose over Parker in all honesty
Billups- Agreed- 3
Iverson- Not a PG
Terry- No way in hell is Terry on Rose's level
Davis- 4
Arenas- Injured

Rose rounds out my top 5. followed by guys like TJ ford, Harris, Kidd, Nash, and Parker....in no particular order

JordansBulls
12-04-2008, 08:42 PM
I honestly believe this is a legitimate question. He's averaging something like 18/6/5, and really has no help on the team.

People who haven't seen him will say no, but I honestly believe people who have seen him will agree with me.


Personally I don't think you can rank someone until at least half the season has gone by. That is when you know if a player is really legit or not.
I sure hope Rose is a top 20 player though.

SportsFan9
12-04-2008, 08:45 PM
Wow, people are already calling him a top 20 player. You gotta be kidding me.

AirFartOne
12-04-2008, 08:49 PM
When I first glanced at this thread I though it said top 20 point guard, because realistically that is all that 1/5th of a season proves. I really like this kid but to even consider him a top 20 player after like 15 games is really jumping the gun.

superkegger
12-04-2008, 08:52 PM
absolutely not.

Lakersfan2483
12-04-2008, 09:13 PM
He's a top 20 talent, but not quite a top 20 player, there is a difference. He's in the top 25-30 for sure. He will continue to get better and move up the ranks soon.

djeller1139
12-04-2008, 09:34 PM
Why is there a new thread DAILY about how amazing Derrick Rose is. He is not top 20 after performing very well in the NBA for 1 month.

That being said, he will eventually be Top 20 most likely, but we don't need to discuss it everyday.

Goon.Weezy
12-04-2008, 09:40 PM
HELL NAWW.....maybe top 50

bostncelts34
12-04-2008, 11:44 PM
sorry but no way is he anywehere near top 20.

amare
kg
duncan
williams
paul
pierce
melo
wade
bosh
boozer
parker
kobe
granger
arenas
lebron
howard
durant
big al
b.diddy
billups
joe johnson
josh smith


and wow..so on..thats like 22 right there, that are def. above rose. im sure there is at least 15 more.

rosesbulls
12-05-2008, 12:03 AM
sorry but no way is he anywehere near top 20.

amare
kg
duncan
williams
paul
pierce
melo
wade
bosh
boozer
parker
kobe
granger
arenas
lebron
howard
durant
big al
b.diddy
billups
joe johnson
josh smith


and wow..so on..thats like 22 right there, that are def. above rose. im sure there is at least 15 more.

Josh Smith, he is a super athlete but that's all he is really Rose is better

Durant, he is a great scorer but he is the only scoring option on that team so he gets the ball most of time. He doesnt even have a nba position he is 6-9 but down low he gets destroyed and on guards he gest blown past.

Agent Zero has now had several major injuries 2 in past 2 years.

I doubt there are 15 more maybe 10 at most i can name a few
Yao
Nowitski
Harris (maybe very close)
probably 1-5 more which would put him in the top 30


People who are saying he is maybe top 50 really either haven't seen him play or hating. Id like to see them put up a GOOD list of 40 players who are better then him.

td0tsfinest
12-05-2008, 12:12 AM
right now no. But he will be there soon. He's phenominal players, great skills and a humble kid. He's a rookie, I can't imagine what threads are going to be like in a couple of years.

THE_FLASH_21
12-05-2008, 12:14 AM
good player... but not even top 20 in the EAST!!!

rosesbulls
12-05-2008, 12:29 AM
good player... but not even top 20 in the EAST!!!

GL trying to name 20 players better then him in east :rolleyes:

Here start you off

Garnett
Pierce
Lebron
Wade
Arenas( Big Maybe)
Brand
Joe johnson
Harris
Carter (Maybe)
Bosh
Granger

Thats about every player that could possibly be better then Rose when not hating in east with two maybes

Arenas maybe because to major injuries in two years.

a couple of these players are also maybes but closer to the for sure side

cmellofan15
12-05-2008, 12:32 AM
Wrong....
Paul- Of course- 1
Williams- Of course- 2
Kidd- On the Decline. Rose has more value and is alreadys about as efficient
Nash- Massive Defensive liability, better passer for now and def a better shooter, but he is far from the "unguardable" label and Rose is considered to be almost that and has the tools to be an elite defender
Parker- Less athletic version of Rose. Id take Rose over Parker in all honesty
Billups- Agreed- 3
Iverson- Not a PG
Terry- No way in hell is Terry on Rose's level
Davis- 4
Arenas- Injured

Rose rounds out my top 5. followed by guys like TJ ford, Harris, Kidd, Nash, and Parker....in no particular order

LOL, I'm sorry for this but that post was horrible.

Ok Derrick Rose will NEVER be Nash. I think everyone will agree that Nash is better than Rose. This shouldn't even be an arguement.

And yes, AI starts at PG, so what does that make him? Oh, a point guard! duh.

Rose is NOWHERE near Parker. When I say NOWHERE I mean lightyears behind. That was just dumb to say you'd take Rose. You say he's less atheletic but has Rose's sorry *** put up 55 points and 10 assists? Oh what about 34 and 11? I don't think so. You'd have to be mentally ill to take Rose over Parker.

And about Kidd. Of course he's more valuable he's a rookie!!! What do you expect? Kidd to be the number one prospect in the NBA? He grabs almost 10, 10, and 10 every night. The only thing he might not be is as selfish as Rose because Kidd is pretty selfless.

And don't get me started on Terry. He comes off the bench and puts up about the same stats as Rose. The f***ing bench!!! I get he still gets about 30 minutes but if Rose is so "godlike" why isn't he putting up triple doubles ever night? You're severely overrating Rose and it's a shame b/c he's good but your making me not like him.

In all seriousness that might be one of the worst posts I've ever read.

cmellofan15
12-05-2008, 12:36 AM
GL trying to name 20 players better then him in east :rolleyes:

Here start you off

Garnett
Pierce
Lebron
Wade
Arenas( Big Maybe)
Brand
Joe johnson
Harris
Carter (Maybe)
Bosh
Granger

Thats about every player that could possibly be better then Rose when not hating in east with two maybes

Arenas maybe because to major injuries in two years.

a couple of these players are also maybes but closer to the for sure side

You can take off Arenas and add Allen ,Smith, Hordford, Iggy, and Howard. Remember that Dwight guy who's the best center in the East? Yeah him, lol. But you must've been thinking to hard and missed him trying to think of less obvious guys. Happens to me all the time :D

29$JerZ
12-05-2008, 12:50 AM
Not yet

Soto>Norris
12-05-2008, 12:51 AM
hes top 30 right now. maybe 20 next year, and by the time hes done with this league, he will be up there for one of the greats.

rosesbulls
12-05-2008, 12:57 AM
LOL, I'm sorry for this but that post was horrible.

Ok Derrick Rose will NEVER be Nash. I think everyone will agree that Nash is better than Rose. This shouldn't even be an arguement.

And yes, AI starts at PG, so what does that make him? Oh, a point guard! duh.

Rose is NOWHERE near Parker. When I say NOWHERE I mean lightyears behind. That was just dumb to say you'd take Rose. You say he's less atheletic but has Rose's sorry *** put up 55 points and 10 assists? Oh what about 34 and 11? I don't think so. You'd have to be mentally ill to take Rose over Parker.

And about Kidd. Of course he's more valuable he's a rookie!!! What do you expect? Kidd to be the number one prospect in the NBA? He grabs almost 10, 10, and 10 every night. The only thing he might not be is as selfish as Rose because Kidd is pretty selfless.

And don't get me started on Terry. He comes off the bench and puts up about the same stats as Rose. The f***ing bench!!! I get he still gets about 30 minutes but if Rose is so "godlike" why isn't he putting up triple doubles ever night? You're severely overrating Rose and it's a shame b/c he's good but your making me not like him.

In all seriousness that might be one of the worst posts I've ever read.

I disagree with everything but that Atm Rose is behind parker definatly not as far as you make it out to be but behind and that Rose is not like Nash or Kidd. Rose is a taller stronger version of parker or a Wade but better passer. (Wade is a better jumper but other then that they are similarily athletic speed wise) But nba experiences can't be discredited so Parker is better atm. Your right Rose is not a nash and it doesnt seem like atm that once nash and Kidd are done there wont be pure pg for awhile. Paul, Williams, and Rose are all hybrids and appear to be the future pgs of the nba. Terry gets more shots on a lower fg% and just as much minutes. Rose of course being a pg gets more assists+ more rebounds. Rose is better not as much as the guy you quoted said but still a little bit better
Calling Rose selfish speaks volumes of your assumingly little experience watching him. :pity: If your going by not taking shots and being just a floor general/ pass it every time unless open then your right Rose is selfish but those are pure pgs and there wont be any more of those around in a couple years. That selfish part of your post falls into the dont talk about what ou don't know category.
Rose is better then Kidd now. Kidd has become a defensive liability this season to many people surprise. Imo you have to be in the top 50 in the pts/reb/assists per game catagory to be considered a threat every night to get a triple double. you would also need to average atleast 1 stat over 10 :rolleyes:. Rose> Kidd, Nash>Rose, Rose>Terry, Parker>rose

rosesbulls
12-05-2008, 01:00 AM
You can take off Arenas and add Allen ,Smith, Hordford, Iggy, and Howard. Remember that Dwight guy who's the best center in the East? Yeah him, lol. But you must've been thinking to hard and missed him trying to think of less obvious guys. Happens to me all the time :D

Iverson been a chump so far this season Horford not a chance and Iggy been terrible this season as well.

Yeah I forgot Howard happens to me all the time were I forget most obvious player.

MrBloop
12-05-2008, 01:09 AM
He's a top 20 guard at the moment.

LA_Raiders
12-05-2008, 01:46 AM
lol, no.... Top 50 maybe..

LAcowBOMBER
12-05-2008, 02:03 AM
hes top 30 right now. maybe 20 next year, and by the time hes done with this league, he will be up there for one of the greats.

Yea, you can clearly tell that after 20 games. For anyone saying he is top 20, make a list. Go ahead, try to actually prove it. I know lists are subjective, but I'm positive that tere are 20 players that are above him without question.

MrBloop
12-05-2008, 02:03 AM
LOL, I'm sorry for this but that post was horrible.

Ok Derrick Rose will NEVER be Nash. I think everyone will agree that Nash is better than Rose. This shouldn't even be an arguement.

And yes, AI starts at PG, so what does that make him? Oh, a point guard! duh.

Rose is NOWHERE near Parker. When I say NOWHERE I mean lightyears behind. That was just dumb to say you'd take Rose. You say he's less atheletic but has Rose's sorry *** put up 55 points and 10 assists? Oh what about 34 and 11? I don't think so. You'd have to be mentally ill to take Rose over Parker.

And about Kidd. Of course he's more valuable he's a rookie!!! What do you expect? Kidd to be the number one prospect in the NBA? He grabs almost 10, 10, and 10 every night. The only thing he might not be is as selfish as Rose because Kidd is pretty selfless.

And don't get me started on Terry. He comes off the bench and puts up about the same stats as Rose. The f***ing bench!!! I get he still gets about 30 minutes but if Rose is so "godlike" why isn't he putting up triple doubles ever night? You're severely overrating Rose and it's a shame b/c he's good but your making me not like him.

In all seriousness that might be one of the worst posts I've ever read.

I gotta disagree with one big thing...I think he's got the talent that could impact a ballgame just as well as any of the players you mentioned, especially Steve Nash.

I'm a diehard Knick Fan, and the Bulls fans do have a suspect rep on here, but Derek Rose COULD very well be better than all of these guys when its all said and done. Rose is the goods, and you know he is, because he'd go #1 or #2 in any draft. Infact he was the highest drafted person talked about in either of our posts. He's putting up about 19 6 & 4, thats pretty damn good, and he'd be a problem for any1 you mentioned on any given night if they were matched up.

He's not top 20, but at the moment, I might take him over any of those guys mentioned, including Nash.

MrBloop
12-05-2008, 02:09 AM
No particular order
Kobe
Lebron
CP3
Duncan
Amare
Bosh
Wade
Dirk
Deron
Gasol
Nash
Pierce
Garnett
Howard
YAO
Melo

YEAH HE'S NOT GONNA MAKE THE TOP 20

indy787
12-05-2008, 02:15 AM
Rose is a great player no doubt, but I still feel that OJ Mayo has a more mature game and a much more consistent jump shot.

LAcowBOMBER
12-05-2008, 02:20 AM
To add to MrBloop's list:

Yao
Billups
Melo
Parker
Granger
Carter
Devin Harris

zambo4president
12-05-2008, 02:25 AM
I love Rose and he`s my favorite player but he is more like top 30 and an all-star this year but not top 20 yet.

UnWantedTheory
12-05-2008, 02:36 AM
He is very very good right now, but it is still to earlier to tell what he is or will be. We can certainly say it appears he will be a great player that is a future top 20 guy. But IMO that will come later in the season or perhaps next year. I really dont like to jump at judgement after one season let alone one month.

BostonWeedz
12-05-2008, 03:41 AM
People who are saying he is maybe top 50 really either haven't seen him play or hating. Id like to see them put up a GOOD list of 40 players who are better then him.

This is at least 40 players better then him

Chris Paul
LeBron
Kobe
Dwight Howard
D Wade
KG
Tim Duncan
TMac
Steve Nash
Dirk
Deron Williams
Chris Bosh
Iverson
Vince
Amare
Pierce
Manu
Tony Parker
Andre Iguodala
Yao Ming
Baron Davis
Carmelo
Gilbert Arenas
Teyshaun Prince
Elton Brand
David West
Joe Johnson
Boozer
Al Jefferson
Billups
Michael Redd
Richard Hamilton
Antawn Jamison
Rashard Lewis
Caron Butler
Granger
Devin Harris
Artest
Ray Allen
Brandon Roy
Rasheed
Kevin Martin
Kevin Durant
Jason Richardson
Richard Jefferson
Josh Howard
Gerald Wallace
Kidd
Gasol
Stephen Jackson
Shawn Marion

skinsfan4life80
12-05-2008, 04:16 AM
no not yet

UD5soul
12-05-2008, 04:42 AM
D Rose the Truth!

If you were in a real life fantasy draft name 30 players you'd rather have on your team then Rose.......

UD5soul
12-05-2008, 04:46 AM
tmac
andre iguodala
gilbert arenas
teyshaun prince
elton brand
david west
michael redd
richard hamilton
antawn jamison
rashard lewis
artest
ray allen
brandon roy
rasheed
kevin martin
kevin durant
jason richardson
richard jefferson
josh howard
gerald wallace
kidd
gasol
stephen jackson
shawn marion


i edited you're 40 better then rose... I'm taking rose if building a team over anybody on my list

MakaSizzle
12-05-2008, 04:53 AM
ROSE IS THE 3rd best point easily. IF the #3 point isn't top 20 then so be it. But he makes the third ALL NBA team. If you watch him play you will agree.

barreleffact
12-05-2008, 05:07 AM
LOL, I'm sorry for this but that post was horrible.

Ok Derrick Rose will NEVER be Nash. I think everyone will agree that Nash is better than Rose. This shouldn't even be an arguement.

And yes, AI starts at PG, so what does that make him? Oh, a point guard! duh.

Rose is NOWHERE near Parker. When I say NOWHERE I mean lightyears behind. That was just dumb to say you'd take Rose. You say he's less atheletic but has Rose's sorry *** put up 55 points and 10 assists? Oh what about 34 and 11? I don't think so. You'd have to be mentally ill to take Rose over Parker.

And about Kidd. Of course he's more valuable he's a rookie!!! What do you expect? Kidd to be the number one prospect in the NBA? He grabs almost 10, 10, and 10 every night. The only thing he might not be is as selfish as Rose because Kidd is pretty selfless.

And don't get me started on Terry. He comes off the bench and puts up about the same stats as Rose. The f***ing bench!!! I get he still gets about 30 minutes but if Rose is so "godlike" why isn't he putting up triple doubles ever night? You're severely overrating Rose and it's a shame b/c he's good but your making me not like him.

In all seriousness that might be one of the worst posts I've ever read.

You underestimate Rose. His leadership and ability to win games outweighs his actual stats, and the fact that he is getting some very good stats makes it all teh more impressive IMO.

I'll give you Parker for sheer experience alone. However Rose is teh leading man putting up comarable numbers. Parker has always generally been the 3rd option. Rose is about equal in assists, better in steals and blocks, and probably is or will be a better defender based on his size and quickness. Rose is still learning but I do expect him to be better tha Parker sooner rather than later(like by the end of this year or mid next year).

Nash....The way to beat Nash is to let him score to detriment the team....you cant do that with Rose. Rose has great potential on D and is already leagues better than Nash. Nash is the better passer(although he's only getting 2 more assists with far more help) and the better shooter. Rose is better in pretty much every other category rebounding, athleticism, defense, IMO leadership too(highly debateable). Id put Rose on most any team and not think twice about it, but Nash would depend heavily on the supporting cast.

AI- what's your point? Players play out of position all the time.Players like AI, Marion, Beasley, etc can play multiple positions, but they are still best suited for one over the other. AI has had to play PG a few times including now, but he has majorily AND most effectively been a SG. Plus, in a pg battle Rose is already ahead of him. Besides that Rose is scoring more than AI, rebounding more, getting more assists(with a far inferior team), and blocking more, and shooting better percentages in both FG and 3pt FG...how is AI better besides saying experience????

Kidd is an idol of mine but Rose is about as efficient already. Kidd has become a liability on D, He is step slow, he isnt a scorer either. Rose is the leading man and is scoring a better FG%. To call Rose selfish though makes me think you havent seen him play. If anything, in college he was far too unselfish. Now, he is still far from selfish. His assists would be higher if guys were more consistant. often, he is taking shots because he has the best look most often and the best odds to hit it.

Terry- i didnt mean to imply he's a bad player, but he is a shooter and not much else(an incredibly talented shooter/ scorer tho). But Rose is the main man, not the 6th man. He has teams main attention for the entire time he's on the court. Rose is the better passer, rebounder, and shooter percentage wise. Terry is the bench spark and reliable J, but rose is everything to that Bulls team.

nstachowski
12-05-2008, 05:20 AM
To add to MrBloop's list:

Yao
Billups
Melo
Parker
Granger
Carter
Devin Harris

Uhh, Melo and Yao were both on his lists

nstachowski
12-05-2008, 05:21 AM
He's not a top 20 yet, but he is making his way up there

BostonWeedz
12-05-2008, 11:26 AM
i edited you're 40 better then rose... I'm taking rose if building a team over anybody on my list

Yeah...but the thread wasn't called D-rose is a top 20 player to build a team around.

MooseWithFleas
12-05-2008, 11:32 AM
:yawn: no... wait another year

Silent
12-05-2008, 12:19 PM
:confused:


Paul
Williams
Kidd big time decline
Nash
Parker
Billups
Iverson is a true sg
Terry so/so player but nowhere near top 10
Davis not a team player
Arenas Hasent played a game and he's top 5

Defintely not top 5, you must be the one overrating him.



d rose is not a top 20 player yet but give him some time

J-Relo
12-05-2008, 12:26 PM
not top 20........

rhymeratic
12-05-2008, 12:31 PM
Close thread, not top 20 in ANYTHING. Maybe he's top 20 in getting punked out of his GF in college as a star athlete but that's about it.

shatty
12-05-2008, 12:32 PM
Top 20 c'mon guys whos smokin what here. paul, bosh wade,bryant,lebron,duncan, nowitzky,stodumire,anthony,jefferson,gasol,howard,
chandler,garnett,pierce,ginobli,parker,boozer,redd ,bynum. i could go on Feedback

barreleffact
12-05-2008, 12:33 PM
Close thread, not top 20 in ANYTHING. Maybe he's top 20 in getting punked out of his GF in college as a star athlete but that's about it.

You heard about that? I heard he was sleepin with some football players girl and the dude got pissed and they were beefin for a while. Rose did get it handed to him tho if memory serves correctly

NYstateofMinD
12-05-2008, 03:34 PM
Im a Knicks fan so my opinion is unbiased here..

Kobe
LeBron
CP3
Wade
Duncan
KG
Deron
Dwight
Bosh
Dirk
Amare
Yao
Billups
Tony Parker
Joe Johnson
Danny Granger
Brandon Roy
Allen Iverson
Melo
Nash....
top 20 no..top 30 i think so.top 40 defiantly

Second City
12-05-2008, 03:37 PM
Top 20 c'mon guys whos smokin what here. paul, bosh wade,bryant,lebron,duncan, nowitzky,stodumire,anthony,jefferson,gasol,howard,
chandler,garnett,pierce,ginobli,parker,boozer,redd ,bynum. i could go on Feedback

He doesn't belong there.

MrBloop
12-05-2008, 04:45 PM
This is at least 40 players better then him

Chris Paul
LeBron
Kobe
Dwight Howard
D Wade
KG
Tim Duncan
TMac
Steve Nash
Dirk
Deron Williams
Chris Bosh
Iverson
Vince
Amare
Pierce
Manu
Tony Parker
Andre Iguodala
Yao Ming
Baron Davis
Carmelo
Gilbert Arenas
Teyshaun Prince
Elton Brand
David West
Joe Johnson
Boozer
Al Jefferson
Billups
Michael Redd
Richard Hamilton
Antawn Jamison
Rashard Lewis
Caron Butler
Granger
Devin Harris
Artest
Ray Allen
Brandon Roy
Rasheed
Kevin Martin
Kevin Durant
Jason Richardson
Richard Jefferson
Josh Howard
Gerald Wallace
Kidd
Gasol
Stephen Jackson
Shawn Marion

This list doesn't make sense, b/c Rose's position, skill set, and upside would make me if I was a GM wanna take him over alot of people on this list.

I'd rather want him than on my team than...

Marion
RJ
S. Jackson
Definately Carter
Artest
Igoudala
Redd
Wallace
Durant
Granger
Harris
Prince
Lewis
J. Rich

He may not have the resume of any of these guys, but he's a can't miss superstar.

I think he's putting up numbers right now, that are better or comparable to any of the guys I took from your list.

MrBloop
12-05-2008, 04:57 PM
Rose is a great player no doubt, but I still feel that OJ Mayo has a more mature game and a much more consistent jump shot.

And Rose can do everything on the court better than Mayo except shoot the rock.

EXAMPLE: Mike Miller can shoot the lights out, but would you rather have him or Ron Artest.

Hawkeye15
12-05-2008, 07:43 PM
not right now. He isn't top 20 in the east. He will soon be a top 20 player I think. But that is an elite level.

THE_FLASH_21
12-08-2008, 01:21 PM
LOL, I'm sorry for this but that post was horrible.

Ok Derrick Rose will NEVER be Nash. I think everyone will agree that Nash is better than Rose. This shouldn't even be an arguement.

And yes, AI starts at PG, so what does that make him? Oh, a point guard! duh.

Rose is NOWHERE near Parker. When I say NOWHERE I mean lightyears behind. That was just dumb to say you'd take Rose. You say he's less atheletic but has Rose's sorry *** put up 55 points and 10 assists? Oh what about 34 and 11? I don't think so. You'd have to be mentally ill to take Rose over Parker.

And about Kidd. Of course he's more valuable he's a rookie!!! What do you expect? Kidd to be the number one prospect in the NBA? He grabs almost 10, 10, and 10 every night. The only thing he might not be is as selfish as Rose because Kidd is pretty selfless.

And don't get me started on Terry. He comes off the bench and puts up about the same stats as Rose. The f***ing bench!!! I get he still gets about 30 minutes but if Rose is so "godlike" why isn't he putting up triple doubles ever night? You're severely overrating Rose and it's a shame b/c he's good but your making me not like him.

In all seriousness that might be one of the worst posts I've ever read.



Thank for telling ((Rosesbulls)) before i did. :D He missed a lot of players on that list he made. I could name more but you get the point.

JordansBulls
12-08-2008, 02:03 PM
This list doesn't make sense, b/c Rose's position, skill set, and upside would make me if I was a GM wanna take him over alot of people on this list.

I'd rather want him than on my team than...

Marion
RJ
S. Jackson
Definately Carter
Artest
Igoudala
Redd
Wallace
Durant
Granger
Harris
Prince
Lewis
J. Rich

He may not have the resume of any of these guys, but he's a can't miss superstar.

I think he's putting up numbers right now, that are better or comparable to any of the guys I took from your list.


:clap::clap:

But I think Granger is debateable right now.

superkegger
12-08-2008, 03:09 PM
If Rose is top 20, then OJ mayo has to be right there with him.