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hoog
12-02-2008, 08:33 AM
Now that we know who was and was not offered arbitration the outlook got clearer for me. Here's what I'd do if I were Dave and his gang:

1. I jump all over Joe Beimel (like today!) with a two year contract.
2. I also go after Brandon Lyon right away with two years and an option year.
3. I then make the long awaited trade for Jack Wilson and Ronny Paulino (who then becomes our veteran catcher to mix with Ryan) for Nate Robertson, Luis Marte, and Brent Dlugach. (They take Nate for a veteran starter they need but also get a good young arm in Marte and a SS prospect. We get the SS we wanted, the veteran catcher, and get rid of Nate.)
4. We make two more trades: A. Marcus Thames goes to Florida Marlins for Joe Nelson B. Fernando Rodney goes to Tampa Rays for one of the young starters of Jeff Niemann, Wade Davis, or Mitch Talbot.

This gives us the following roster:

1b- Cabrerra/Larish
2b- Polanco/Santiago/Rayburn
SS- Wilson/Santiago
3b- Inge/Larish/Rayburn
C- Paulino/Ryan
RF- Maggs/Joyce/Rayburn
LF- Guillen/Joyce/Rayburn
CF- Granderson/Thomas
DH- Sheffield/Larish/Joyce

Starters:
Verlander
Bonderman
Galarraga
Miner
Willis/Lambert/Whoever we get from Tampa (compete for 5th spot)
*I have an eye on Brandon Looper in case he comes cheap to compete with the others for the 5th spot. Also, don't forget about Porcello later in the year.

Relief:
Lyon- First shot at closer
Beimel- LH specialist and set up
Nelson- set up
Zumaya- ???? (could eventually be closer)
Dolsi- long
Seay- LH specialist
*Several other candidates here with Casey Fien, Clay Rapada, and Rudy Darrow. Not to mention the loser of the 5th spot in the rotation.

mark1125
12-02-2008, 10:08 AM
I agree on Beimel. If the price is reasonable, Lyone would be OK too. I still would like to see us make a run on Juan Cruz. I think he could be a solid closer. If not, he has a solid track record that would be an improvement on anyone else we have.

Paulino and Wilson would be OK. Not sure what Pirates are looking for. I would not give up too much.

I am all for unloading Rodney for whatever someone is willing to give. Same goes for Nate.

I like Thames. I would give him up only if we could get a major league ready pitcher under 30.

hoog
12-02-2008, 12:44 PM
I agree on Beimel. If the price is reasonable, Lyone would be OK too. I still would like to see us make a run on Juan Cruz. I think he could be a solid closer. If not, he has a solid track record that would be an improvement on anyone else we have.

Paulino and Wilson would be OK. Not sure what Pirates are looking for. I would not give up too much.

I am all for unloading Rodney for whatever someone is willing to give. Same goes for Nate.

I like Thames. I would give him up only if we could get a major league ready pitcher under 30.

I too like Juan Cruz but he was labeled a class A free agent in Arbitration so we would have to give up two first rounders. Don't want to do that when we can get Lyon for none. I read on the Pirates web site that they were looking to get a young SS from us and that they would love to get Iorg or Worth but would more likely take Dulgach and a young arm. I threw Nate in to make up for some cash. Thames trade gives you a 30'ish reliever that had a great year but has some injury history. It's a chance but with they young outfielders we have I'll take it. For Rodney you get the young (under 30) starting prospect that can come in and compete for the #5 spot. All three names listed can provide that need.