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sleewizard
11-26-2008, 11:12 AM
Give me who you think your team's top 10 prospects are and where you think they and your team as a whole falls farm system wise in rank in the the mlb. (1, 7, 19, etc.)

Joba Rules!!
11-26-2008, 01:40 PM
Jesus Montero-Top 30
Austin Jackson-Top 30
Mark Melancon-Top 50
Zach McCallister-Top 50
Dellin Betances-Top 50
Andrew Brackman-Top 100
Austin Romine-Possibly top 100 (Scouts seem to love him)
Brett Marshall-Top 150
Christiam Garcia-Out of top 150
Brett Gardener-Out of top 150

Top 5-7 system because of superior depth.

BeAn 5 ToWnE
11-26-2008, 01:46 PM
soxprospects.com

I would say our farm is above average, but not greatest.

Sportfan
11-26-2008, 05:04 PM
Lars: top 10
Bucholz(if he still counts) top 30
bowden: top 30
Reddick: top 60
Bard: top 60
Nick Hagadone: top 80
Almanzar: top 100
Kalish: top 150
Navarro: top 150
Tejada: top 200

Faithdies
11-26-2008, 07:18 PM
1. Carrasco
2. Marson
3. Donald
4. Happ
5. Taylor
6. Brown
7. Berry
8. Collier
9. Drabek
10. D'arnaud.

I'll take this group as my Phillies top 10. Some people will debate Collier I think, but that guy is going to be a beast.

sager729
11-28-2008, 03:14 AM
White Sox

1.Gordon Beckham SS
2.Aaron Poreda LHP
3.Dayan Viciedo 3B
4.Clayton Richard LHP
5.Brandon Allen 1B
6.Chris Getz 2B
7.Jordan Danks CF
8.John Shelby Jr. OF
9.Jon Link RHP
10.John Ely RHP

I would probably put this top 10 around 20 or so, but Buddy Bell is starting to turn this farm system into a good thing.

AirFartOne
11-28-2008, 06:37 PM
Blue Jays

1) Travis Snider(top 10) - one of the best swings I've seen in years.
2) J.P. Arencibia(top 100) - exremely good offensive production from a defensive postion.
3) Brett Cecil(top 100) - one of the stronger lefties in the minors. Great stuff.
4) David Cooper(top 150) - a very solid left handed homerun machine out of college.
5) Justin Jackson(top 150) - solid defensively, ++arm and ever-improving at the plate.
6) Kevin Ahrens(top 200) - very good young hitter(only 19), has great power and a quick swing.
7) Ricky Romero(top 200) - former top 6 pick. lefty with a mean curve, just can't seem to pull it together.
8) Brian Jeroloman(top 250) - patient at the plate, one of those gifted defensive catchers that don't come all too often.
9) Scott Campbell - great middle infielder who just came on the radar this past year.
10) Eric Eiland(top 300) - I think of him as the darkhorse in our system. Five-tool player with loads of potential, fell off last year out of college as a result of a hammy injury. Could be a semi-hidden gem if you will.

Overall Rank: 15-20....We have quite a few solid prospects with upside but the problem is our only bonafida blue-chip prospect is Travis Snider.

07MVPPatBurrell
11-29-2008, 02:30 AM
I'll take this group as my Phillies top 10. Some people will debate Collier I think, but that guy is going to be a beast.

i agree , he looks like a player

FutureYank2345
11-29-2008, 06:31 PM
One of my favorite teams to watch the Rays

1. David Price SP
2. Wade Davis SP
3. Jeremy Hellickson SP
4. Jake McGee SP
5. Jeff Niemann SP
6. Desmond Jennings CF
7. Tim Beckham SS
8. Reid Brignac
9. John Jaso C
10. Joel Guzman Util.

FutureYank2345
11-29-2008, 06:38 PM
Another team i like watching the Marlins

1. Cameron Maybin CF
2. Logan Morrison 1B
3. Sean West SP
4. Mike Stanton OF
5. Matt Dominguez 3B
6. Gabby Sanchez 1B
7. John Raynor OF
8. Chris Coghlan 2B
9. Kyle Skipworth C
10. Jose Ceda RP

FutureYank2345
11-29-2008, 06:39 PM
Jesus Montero-Top 30
Austin Jackson-Top 30
Mark Melancon-Top 50
Zach McCallister-Top 50
Dellin Betances-Top 50
Andrew Brackman-Top 100
Austin Romine-Possibly top 100 (Scouts seem to love him)
Brett Marshall-Top 150
Christiam Garcia-Out of top 150
Brett Gardener-Out of top 150

Top 5-7 system because of superior depth.

I agree with ur listing

Sick Of It All
11-30-2008, 12:42 AM
I think some of you guys are placing some of these guys too high.

Its hard for any team to have 1-2 maybe even 3 guys in the top 50 let alone 5 guys and not be hands down the best farm system in baseball.

laxtonto
11-30-2008, 01:16 AM
1. RHP, Neftali Feliz Top 15
2. LHP, Derek Holland. Top 25-30
3. 1b, Justin Smoaktop Top 25-30
4. SS, Elvis Andrus Top 40-60
5. RHP, Michael Main 75-125
6. C, Taylor Teagarden Top 60-80
7. C/DH, Maximiliano Ramirez Top 60-80
8. OF, Julio Borbon Top 60-80
9. LHP, Martin Perez
10. RHP, Eric Hurley Fringe 100-150
11. OF, Engel Beltre
12. RHP, Blake Beavan
13.RHP, Wilfredo Boscan
14. 2b/SS, Jose Vallejo
15. RHP, Neil Ramirez

I probably toned down the rankings a tad to much, with all of the top 5 possible to have better rankings depending on the publication.

How many systems would the Rangers 6th or 7th or even 8th guy be 1 or 2 in...

Scary system

brewersfan729
11-30-2008, 01:36 AM
Mat Gamel, 3B
Alcides Escobar, SS
Jeremy Jeffress, RHP
Angel Salome, C
Jonathan Lucroy, C
Brett Lawrie, C
Taylor Green, 3B/2B
Lorenzo Cain, CF
Cole Gillespie, LF
Jake Odorizzi, RHP

Lots of depth and eight of the top 10 are in AA or higher so they're close to contributing. Pitching depth is lacking in the upper levels which knocks it down, but we have a ton of pitching in the rookie leagues and low A ball.

I'd say they probably rank in the 8-12 range based on depth and how close many of their top prospects are to contributing.

fishfan79
11-30-2008, 11:34 AM
Another team i like watching the Marlins

1. Cameron Maybin CF
2. Logan Morrison 1B
3. Sean West SP
4. Mike Stanton OF
5. Matt Dominguez 3B
6. Gabby Sanchez 1B
7. John Raynor OF
8. Chris Coghlan 2B
9. Kyle Skipworth C
10. Jose Ceda RP


both about the same there, our minor leagues are stacked with position prospects. I am not as high on Raynor due to his age personally.


1 Cameron Maybin top 10 5 tool talent, hit 500 in the big leagues upon call up
2 Logan Morrison top 25 332/402/494/896 38 Doubles in the FSL - FSL MVP
3 Michael Stanton top 25 39 HRs at 18 293/381/611/993
4 Matt domingez top 50 GG defense, 296/354/499/853 18 HR line pretty solid with amazing defense
5 Sean West top 80 potential 2 type pitcher
6 Ryan Tucker top 80 1.54 Era 74/91 K/IP, 3+ pitches
7 Jose Ceda top 80 2.08 ERA 42K/14BB, 42k/30IP
8 Chris Coghlan top 100 - Top 2B prospect in the minors 298/396/429/825 34SB, 67BB/65K
9 Gaby Sanchez top 100 314/404/513/917 69BB/70K AA MVP
10 Kyle Skipworth - pure talent kid has a great swing for a catcher

Scott cousins - Raynor could be here too. Issac Galloway and Thomas hickman are 2 to watch I think both are break out canidates

Cursed Rangers
11-30-2008, 03:04 PM
1. RHP, Neftali Feliz Top 15
2. LHP, Derek Holland. Top 25-30
3. 1b, Justin Smoaktop Top 25-30
4. SS, Elvis Andrus Top 40-60
5. RHP, Michael Main 75-125
6. C, Taylor Teagarden Top 60-80
7. C/DH, Maximiliano Ramirez Top 60-80
8. OF, Julio Borbon Top 60-80
9. LHP, Martin Perez
10. RHP, Eric Hurley Fringe 100-150
11. OF, Engel Beltre
12. RHP, Blake Beavan
13.RHP, Wilfredo Boscan
14. 2b/SS, Jose Vallejo
15. RHP, Neil Ramirez

I probably toned down the rankings a tad to much, with all of the top 5 possible to have better rankings depending on the publication.

How many systems would the Rangers 6th or 7th or even 8th guy be 1 or 2 in...

Scary system


Agreed! I think that the Rangers will have the #1 ranked system by Baseball America this year. They are extremely deep at the key positions - especially pitching.

FutureYank2345
11-30-2008, 06:44 PM
The Marlins are really set they already have the best SS along with a ton of talented young INF's and OF's there team is going to be amazing in like 2010 or 2011.

fishfan79
11-30-2008, 07:38 PM
The Marlins are really set they already have the best SS along with a ton of talented young INF's and OF's there team is going to be amazing in like 2010 or 2011.

just in time for the opening of the new stadium hopefully in 2012 they should be ready on the field as a contender. it should be an interesting ride.

FutureYank2345
12-01-2008, 12:30 PM
yea i'd love to see a Rays Marlins World Series.

hyphy king 88
12-01-2008, 06:08 PM
My list of Oakland A's top Prospects:

1. Trevor Cahill
2. Brett Anderson
3. Gio Gonzalez
4. Chris Carter
5. Aaron Cunningham
6. Adrian Cardenas
7. Vincent Mazzaro
8. Henry Rodriguez
9. Sean Dolittle
10. Michel Inoa

Michel Inoa could be number 1 by the end of next season. 3-10 can easily change at anytime. A lot of other names can also be placed in the top 10 like Josh Donaldson, Jemile Weeks, Brett Hunter Craig Italiano and others. We have a very deep farm system.

Sportfan
12-01-2008, 08:40 PM
The Marlins are really set they already have the best SS along with a ton of talented young INF's and OF's there team is going to be amazing in like 2010 or 2011.

too bad they will trade all their good players by that time.

Sportfan
12-01-2008, 08:41 PM
Agreed! I think that the Rangers will have the #1 ranked system by Baseball America this year. They are extremely deep at the key positions - especially pitching.

it is a top 10 system. Probably around 4th but not the best.

laxtonto
12-01-2008, 09:06 PM
it is a top 10 system. Probably around 4th or 5th but not the best.

Would you like to bet a Baseball America or Baseball Prospectus full subscription on that? Easy bet I will have all year.



Texas is the hands down 1/1a in all publications lists right now. But if you are so sure, pony up. It doesn't help that Jim Caliis said this on the 24th of Nov...


The Rangers have the best farm system in baseball, but it's more than a little hyperbolic to suggest they have that many catchers who would be at the top of the depth chart for any other organization.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/ask-ba/2008/267236.html

C1Bman88
12-01-2008, 09:07 PM
it is a top 10 system. Probably around 4th or 5th but not the best.

I'd be interested to hear which teams you believe have a better farm than Texas.

brewersfan729
12-01-2008, 09:13 PM
it is a top 10 system. Probably around 4th or 5th but not the best.

Name three or four better. You won't be able to because it's the best, hands down.

fishfan79
12-01-2008, 09:41 PM
it is a top 10 system. Probably around 4th or 5th but not the best.

if anyone but the A's beats them I would be hugely surprised. Seriously Texas is amazing

championmets
12-02-2008, 05:45 PM
1. Fernando Martinez
2. Wilmer Flores
3. Jon Niese
4. Dan Murphy
5. Brad Holt
6. Nick Evans
7. Mike Carp
8. Bobby Parnell
9. Reese Havens
10. Scott Moviel

championmets
12-02-2008, 05:47 PM
1. Fernando Martinez Top 30
2. Wilmer Flores Top 50
3. Jon Niese Top 100
4. Dan Murphy Top 100
5. Brad Holt top 150
6. Nick Evans Top 150
7. Mike Carp Top 150
8. Bobby Parnell Top 200
9. Reese Havens Top 2oo
10. Scott Moviel Top 250

This system isn't great, but it has made some great improvements after last seasons santana trade, im satisfied

blb
12-02-2008, 07:41 PM
1 Cameron Maybin top 10 5 tool talent, hit 500 in the big leagues upon call up

Yup. In 32 at-bats. What a stud.

And you failed to mention that Maybin hit .143 in his callup with the Tigers in 2007. And he's also struck out 29 times and drawn just six walks in the majors.

Maybin's an incredible talent, but he's extremely overrated. He's still very raw and he's got terrible plate discipline. He won't be ready for the bigs (and I won't be impressed) until he cuts down on the K's.

As for my team's top prospects, someone already posted the A's, so here are the Orioles:

O's Rank/Name/Position/2009 Age/MLB Rank

1. Matt Wieters, C, 22 (1)
2. Chris Tillman, RHP, 22 (Top 15)
3. Brian Matusz, LHP, 22 (Top 30)
4. Jake Arrieta, RHP, 23 (Top 50)
5. Brandon Erbe, RHP, 22 (Top 60)
6. Nolan Reimold, OF, 24 (Top 100)
7. Zach Britton, LHP, 22
8. Brandon Snyder, 1B/DH, 23
9. David Hernandez, RHP, 24
10. Troy Patton, LHP, 23

It's kind of fun to know that one of your teams has the best prospect in baseball...

Joba Rules!!
12-02-2008, 07:58 PM
Yup. In 32 at-bats. What a stud.

And you failed to mention that Maybin hit .143 in his callup with the Tigers in 2007. And he's also struck out 29 times and drawn just six walks in the majors.

Maybin's an incredible talent, but he's extremely overrated. He's still very raw and he's got terrible plate discipline. He won't be ready for the bigs (and I won't be impressed) until he cuts down on the K's.

As for my team's top prospects, someone already posted the A's, so here are the Orioles:

O's Rank/Name/Position/2009 Age/MLB Rank

1. Matt Wieters, C, 22 (1)
2. Chris Tillman, RHP, 22 (Top 15)
3. Brian Matusz, LHP, 22 (Top 30)
4. Jake Arrieta, RHP, 23 (Top 50)
5. Brandon Erbe, RHP, 22 (Top 60)
6. Nolan Reimold, OF, 24 (Top 100)
7. Zach Britton, LHP, 22
8. Brandon Snyder, 1B/DH, 23
9. David Hernandez, RHP, 24
10. Troy Patton, LHP, 23

It's kind of fun to know that one of your teams has the best prospect in baseball...

I wasn't aware you were a Rays fan :eyebrow:

sager729
12-03-2008, 01:38 AM
White Sox

1.Gordon Beckham SS
2.Aaron Poreda LHP
3.Dayan Viciedo 3B
4.Clayton Richard LHP
5.Brandon Allen 1B
6.Chris Getz 2B
7.Jordan Danks CF
8.John Shelby Jr. OF
9.Jon Link RHP
10.John Ely RHP

I would probably put this top 10 around 20 or so, but Buddy Bell is starting to turn this farm system into a good thing.

The White Sox system just got a lot stronger with Tyler Flowers and Brent Lillibridge.

zzConflict
12-03-2008, 02:21 PM
I'll have a crack at the White Sox also:
Assuming the Vazquez trade goes through...
1. Gordon Beckham, SS
2. Aaron Poreda, LHP
3. Dayan Viciedo, 3B
4. Tyler Flowers, C
5. Brandon Allen, 1B
6. Jordan Danks, CF
7. Clayton Richard, LHP
8. Brent Lillibridge, SS
9. John Shelby, OF
10. Chris Getz, 2B

blb
12-03-2008, 04:36 PM
I wasn't aware you were a Rays fan :eyebrow:

Oh, sorry.

It's nice to know you team has the best hitting prospect in baseball. I do hope you've heard of Matt Wieters.

And once David Price starts the 2009 season with the Rays, it'll be nice to know that the O's have the best hitting prospect and two of the best pitching prospects in baseball (Chris Tillman and Brian Matusz).

The AL East is going to be very interesting in about two years.

NYY NYJ NYK
12-03-2008, 06:04 PM
Yankees- Top 10 (My Opinion)
1. Austin Jackson- CF
2. Jesus Montero- C
3. Dellin Betances- SP
4. Austin Romine-C
5. Andrew Brackman -SP
6. Mark Melacon-RP
7. Zach McAllister- SP
8. Jeremy Belich- SP
9. Alfredo Aceves- SP
10. Phil Coke-RP

Think the Yankees will proubally fall under the 14-20 range as best farm system

Joba Rules!!
12-03-2008, 06:12 PM
Oh, sorry.

It's nice to know you team has the best hitting prospect in baseball. I do hope you've heard of Matt Wieters.

And once David Price starts the 2009 season with the Rays, it'll be nice to know that the O's have the best hitting prospect and two of the best pitching prospects in baseball (Chris Tillman and Brian Matusz).

The AL East is going to be very interesting in about two years.

Lol of course I have. I was just being a dick, it's actually a tossup between him and Price for top prospect honors IMO.

Sportfan
12-03-2008, 07:53 PM
I would say the A's have the best and then the rays. I guess Texas is 3rd. But I said 4th so it's really not that big of a differance

Joba Rules!!
12-03-2008, 08:11 PM
I would say the A's have the best and then the rays. I guess Texas is 3rd. But I said 4th so it's really not that big of a differance

Do you have any knowledge of any of their systems to back that up? Texas EASILY has the best system in the league.

Feliz, Holland, Smoak, Teagarden, Andrus, etc. They have the studs and the depth to put them at the top with no doubt about it.

championmets
12-03-2008, 08:38 PM
chahill, Gio Gonzalez, Cardenas, Doolittle, Carter, Henry Rodriguez, Patterson.

The A's have some real good prospects too

fishfan79
12-03-2008, 11:34 PM
Oh, sorry.

It's nice to know you team has the best hitting prospect in baseball. I do hope you've heard of Matt Wieters.

And once David Price starts the 2009 season with the Rays, it'll be nice to know that the O's have the best hitting prospect and two of the best pitching prospects in baseball (Chris Tillman and Brian Matusz).

The AL East is going to be very interesting in about two years.

I will take 2 best pitching prospects from Texas, SF, and A's over yours personally but I love Tillman's potential :)

McJoe
12-05-2008, 10:26 PM
Give me who you think your team's top 10 prospects are and where you think they and your team as a whole falls farm system wise in rank in the the mlb. (1, 7, 19, etc.)

the Jays system should probably be like 10-15 maybe 15-20 if we are unluckily ranked or something...

1. Travis Snider (top 10 in baseball...7 in the MLB.com rankings)
2. Brett Cecil (top 50 in baseball IMO...56 in the MLB.com rankings)
3. J.P. Arencibia (top 50 in baseball IMO cause hes a catcher...57 in the MLB.com rankings)
4. David Cooper (top 100 in baseball)
5. Justin Jackson (top 100 in baseball)
6. Kevin Ahrens (1st round pick compared to Chipper)
7. Brad Mills (had a good year...probably not gonna be ranked)
8. Marc Rzepcynski (has had 2 good years in the minors...wont be ranked)
9. Eric Eiland (super toolsy spec...one of my favourites)
10. Brad Emaus/Scott Campbell (2 very similar 2B specs...Campbell played in the allstar game)