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JordansBulls
11-17-2008, 12:45 PM
Below is the Rookie of the Year Chosen by the league over the years and below that is the Sporting News Rookie of the Year


Also in Green you will see the difference in opinion on who was the ROY from the NBA perspective and from the coaches perspective for certain years. Some years 2 guys won ROY.

NBA ROY
http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/roy.html

Rookie of the Year Award Winners

Season Lg Player
2007-08 NBA Kevin Durant (V)
2006-07 NBA Brandon Roy (V)
2005-06 NBA Chris Paul (V)
2004-05 NBA Emeka Okafor (V)
2003-04 NBA LeBron James (V)
2002-03 NBA Amare Stoudemire (V)
2001-02 NBA Pau Gasol (V)
2000-01 NBA Mike Miller (V)
1999-00 NBA Elton Brand (V)
1999-00 NBA Steve Francis (V)
1998-99 NBA Vince Carter (V)
1997-98 NBA Tim Duncan (V)
1996-97 NBA Allen Iverson (V)
1995-96 NBA Damon Stoudamire (V)
1994-95 NBA Jason Kidd (V)
1994-95 NBA Grant Hill (V)
1993-94 NBA Chris Webber (V)
1992-93 NBA Shaquille O'Neal (V)
1991-92 NBA Larry Johnson (V)
1990-91 NBA Derrick Coleman (V)
1989-90 NBA David Robinson (V)
1988-89 NBA Mitch Richmond (V)
1987-88 NBA Mark Jackson (V)
1986-87 NBA Chuck Person (V)
1985-86 NBA Patrick Ewing (V)
1984-85 NBA Michael Jordan (V)
1983-84 NBA Ralph Sampson (V)
1982-83 NBA Terry Cummings
1981-82 NBA Buck Williams
1980-81 NBA Darrell Griffith
1979-80 NBA Larry Bird
1978-79 NBA Phil Ford
1977-78 NBA Walter Davis
1976-77 NBA Adrian Dantley
1975-76 NBA Alvan Adams
1975-76 ABA David Thompson
1974-75 NBA Jamaal Wilkes
1973-74 NBA Ernie DiGregorio
1972-73 NBA Bob McAdoo
1971-72 NBA Sidney Wicks
1970-71 NBA Geoff Petrie
1970-71 NBA Dave Cowens
1969-70 NBA Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
1968-69 NBA Wes Unseld
1967-68 NBA Earl Monroe
1966-67 NBA Dave Bing
1965-66 NBA Rick Barry
1964-65 NBA Willis Reed
1963-64 NBA Jerry Lucas
1962-63 NBA Terry Dischinger
1961-62 NBA Walt Bellamy
1960-61 NBA Oscar Robertson
1959-60 NBA Wilt Chamberlain
1958-59 NBA Elgin Baylor



Sporting News ROY (Sporting News is where a coach, GM's, etc vote for the ROY)
http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/tsn_roy.html

Season Lg Player
2006-07 NBA Brandon Roy
2005-06 NBA Chris Paul
2004-05 NBA Emeka Okafor
2003-04 NBA LeBron James
2002-03 NBA Yao Ming
2001-02 NBA Tony Parker
2000-01 NBA Mike Miller
1999-00 NBA Elton Brand
1998-99 NBA Vince Carter
1997-98 NBA Tim Duncan
1996-97 NBA Shareef Abdur-Rahim
1995-96 NBA Damon Stoudamire
1994-95 NBA Grant Hill
1993-94 NBA Chris Webber
1992-93 NBA Shaquille O'Neal
1991-92 NBA Larry Johnson
1990-91 NBA Derrick Coleman
1989-90 NBA David Robinson
1988-89 NBA Mitch Richmond
1987-88 NBA Mark Jackson
1986-87 NBA Chuck Person
1985-86 NBA Patrick Ewing
1984-85 NBA Michael Jordan
1983-84 NBA Ralph Sampson
1982-83 NBA Terry Cummings
1981-82 NBA Isiah Thomas
1980-81 NBA Darrell Griffith
1979-80 NBA Larry Bird
1978-79 NBA Phil Ford
1977-78 NBA Walter Davis
1976-77 NBA Adrian Dantley
1975-76 NBA Alvan Adams
1974-75 NBA Jamaal Wilkes
1973-74 NBA Ernie DiGregorio
1972-73 NBA Bob McAdoo
1971-72 NBA Sidney Wicks
1970-71 NBA Dave Cowens
1969-70 NBA Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
1968-69 NBA Wes Unseld
1967-68 NBA Earl Monroe
1966-67 NBA Dave Bing
1965-66 NBA Rick Barry
1964-65 NBA Luke Jackson
1963-64 NBA Jerry Lucas
1962-63 NBA Terry Dischinger
1961-62 NBA Walt Bellamy
1960-61 NBA Oscar Robertson
1959-60 NBA Wilt Chamberlain
1958-59 NBA Elgin Baylor


So seeing the Rookie of the Year now, Do you think being ROY is an indication of greatness usually?

BK-TY
11-17-2008, 12:52 PM
More like an indication of "Won't Suckn-ess" or "Will Be Around For A While-ness" or even "Have A Good Carreer-ness". :D

superkegger
11-17-2008, 01:25 PM
More like an indication of "Won't Suckn-ess" or "Will Be Around For A While-ness" or even "Have A Good Carreer-ness". :D

agreed. It isn't an indication of greatness at all. Then again, I think you're using a more broad definition of greatness than I would JB. IMO they're are only about 7-12ish great players in the league today, and on that list(going back to 79-80, there are only 10 truly great players who won ROY. but thats my opinion. I just think using the word great, signifies something more than all star status and the like, which is what I'm guessing you were using greatness as...maybe.

JordansBulls
11-17-2008, 03:48 PM
agreed. It isn't an indication of greatness at all. Then again, I think you're using a more broad definition of greatness than I would JB. IMO they're are only about 7-12ish great players in the league today, and on that list(going back to 79-80, there are only 10 truly great players who won ROY. but thats my opinion. I just think using the word great, signifies something more than all star status and the like, which is what I'm guessing you were using greatness as...maybe.

Not necessarily a superstar, but an allstar type player. There are only sooo many guys that become great in this league.

_Sn1P3r_
11-17-2008, 05:47 PM
More like an indication of "Won't Suckn-ess" or "Will Be Around For A While-ness" or even "Have A Good Carreer-ness". :D

Haha, agreed. :clap:

Lakersfan2483
11-17-2008, 05:56 PM
Not necessarily in terms of greatness, but it's a good indicator of a player having enough potential to be a star.

Hawkeye15
11-17-2008, 07:57 PM
It looks like it is more an indication, that if they have a healthy career, you are getting a good starter for years.

superkegger
11-17-2008, 09:08 PM
Not necessarily a superstar, but an allstar type player. There are only sooo many guys that become great in this league.

yeah, I know I was nitpicking over the use of the term great, but when you say great, to me a guy like jordan was great, or like paul, lebron, kobe duncan...I wouldn't call josh howard or micheal redd great even though both are stars and have been to the all star game and major parts of their team...

JordansBulls
11-17-2008, 09:36 PM
Not necessarily in terms of greatness, but it's a good indicator of a player having enough potential to be a star.

I can agree with that.

Lakers4ItAll
11-17-2008, 11:37 PM
A good player yes, but greatness no.....