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astrosmaniac
11-13-2008, 10:50 PM
who do you all consider to be the best 6th man in the nba as of now? i might be a little homer, but aaron brooks is playing amazing ball. 12 PPG, 2 RPG, 2 APG on 48% from the field, 48% from 3, 92% from the line, and only 1.7 TPG in only 20 min a game. who all do you think deserves it as of now?

Gibby23
11-13-2008, 10:55 PM
rudy fernandez

ramsizzle
11-14-2008, 02:44 AM
Ben Gordon....and its not really close. /thread

SAVAGE CLAW
11-14-2008, 02:54 AM
Rudy Fernandez.

LAKERS 24/7
11-14-2008, 03:02 AM
Lamar Odom deserves some consideration.

Giaps
11-14-2008, 03:06 AM
Nate Robinson is in the mix....

14.5 ppg, 4.1 apg, 4.1 rpg, 2.4 spg, 48 fg%, 45 3p%

LAKERS 24/7
11-14-2008, 03:08 AM
Nate Robinson is in the mix....

14.5 ppg, 4.1 apg, 4.1 rpg, 2.4 spg, 48 fg%, 45 3p%

Wow, I did not know he was playing that well. I'm sure some of his numbers are inflated because of Mike's system, but that is impressive regardless.

BRADfromOZ
11-14-2008, 03:19 AM
rudy fernandez

Rudy Fernandez.
What they said. Rudy is playing phenomenally at the moment.

zambo4president
11-14-2008, 03:32 AM
BG7 hands down.

thapharcyd
11-14-2008, 03:33 AM
Rudy. Rudy.

THE MTL
11-14-2008, 03:55 AM
Nate Robinson is in the mix....

14.5 ppg, 4.1 apg, 4.1 rpg, 2.4 spg, 48 fg%, 45 3p%

I was about to say the same thing. It is def. Nate Robinson. And he shot 100% last game w/ 19pts. Def. sixth man of the year. And Top 5 in the league in steals.

THE MTL
11-14-2008, 03:58 AM
Rudy Fernandez.


rudy fernandez


Rudy. Rudy.

But Nate Robinson is better.

Hellcrooner
11-14-2008, 03:58 AM
Rudy, Rudy , Rudy, Rudyyyy

THE MTL
11-14-2008, 04:00 AM
BG7 hands down.

Yeah it is def. BG7, but the guy averages almost 32 minutes per game. Do you really call that a sixth man role? He is basically a starter who has problems starting the game, so he comes off the bench, but to average more than 30mpg isnt really the sixth man role.

sportsnutzz
11-14-2008, 04:34 AM
Andrei Kirilenko

14.0 PPG, 2.9 APG, 6.8 RPG, 1.13 SPG, 1.3 BPG, 51 FG%

Roy31
11-14-2008, 04:37 AM
aka ak47....

Rudy or Matt Bonner.

blackjack_119
11-14-2008, 07:19 AM
6th Man has to go to Rudy Fernandez right now... his numbers are almost identical to Nate Robinson's but the difference in teams' playing styles makes it even more impressive for Rudy to put up the numbers that he is. D'Antoni's system is predicated on a high tempo game which means that there will be more opportunities to accrue stats versus a normally managed tempo. The Blazers have the slowest offensive management in the league which means Rudy is putting up very similar stats with far fewer opportunities.

I haven't looked it up, but my guess would be that Rudy's PER is MUCH higher than Nate Robinson's... not that PER is the end all be all, but it does make for a legit argument.

Lakers4ItAll
11-14-2008, 07:38 AM
Doesnt matter the minutes if hes comin off the bench hes a 6th man


Yeah it is def. BG7, but the guy averages almost 32 minutes per game. Do you really call that a sixth man role? He is basically a starter who has problems starting the game, so he comes off the bench, but to average more than 30mpg isnt really the sixth man role.

stawka
11-14-2008, 08:27 AM
Too many homers in these kinds of threads. It's either Rudy or Brookes for me. Both playing great basketball -- and yes, i'm a Suns fan. Homers, GET OVER IT! Do you guys believe your own lies or what?

Fans in Asia
11-14-2008, 09:01 AM
1. AK
2. Rudy Fernandez (he is also flirting with ROY...)
3. Odom

Another Jazz Fans in Asia
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SoxRTattedOnMe
11-14-2008, 09:15 AM
I presonally think that the 6th man should go to a legitimate bench player. Not someone who has started before in plenty of games and then all of a sudden can't cut the starting linup anymore i.e Odom,Gordon and so on. Those were HIGH draft picks. Maybe I'm being a homer by nominating Leon Powe from Boston. It's just that he's the only player I ever watch coming off the bench. Although he doesn't provide the best numbers it's his presence. His ability to draw charges and just simply defend... that's why I think he should be considered.

Jay22Redd
11-14-2008, 09:46 AM
Rudy Fernandez for sure. He's really good off the bench.

JJ81
11-14-2008, 09:49 AM
Lamar Odom deserves some consideration.

Ariza's ahead of Odom thus far.

Kyben36
11-14-2008, 10:14 AM
BG7. Any 6th man that can average 22 Points and 4 Assist deserves it.

PS. Last 5 games he has averaged 28 and 5

BooCain
11-14-2008, 10:23 AM
Ben Gordon without a doubt

leftymo
11-14-2008, 10:29 AM
This year I see no Lakers getting any awards for the regular season, despite what appears to be dominating it.

The best bench in the league by far are the Lakers, and b/c they have such a deep team no one player stands out to win an award over the rest of the league. So sixth man is out. Brooks has raised the most eyebrows, but i'm sure there are some in the east.

Phil won't win coach of the year, I think that'll go to Atlanta's coach.
MVP looks poised for Lebron, especially since Kobe's numbers will drop significantly since LA is just overwhelmingly good.
DPOY - to be determined
ROY - to be determined, but OJ Mayo might be in the lead currently.

jimbobjarree
11-14-2008, 10:43 AM
the award is AK47's...though I'm a big homer

frizbo72
11-14-2008, 10:58 AM
Ak-47

SensandRaps
11-14-2008, 11:12 AM
its in this order imo
1. Nate Robinsion
2. Rudy Fernandez
3. Ben Gordon
4. Aaron Brooks
5. AK 47
6. Andrea Bargnani (homer pick but some games he playes amazing:))

HOZ THE KNICK
11-14-2008, 11:14 AM
nate robinson.

tonyd3b54
11-14-2008, 11:15 AM
leon powes been a beast...

KB24PG16
11-14-2008, 11:18 AM
trevor ariza

bostncelts34
11-14-2008, 11:20 AM
Fernandez,Odom,Tony Allen

innovator
11-14-2008, 11:21 AM
the referees for the celtics... seriously its ben gordon

lakers4sho
11-14-2008, 11:31 AM
My top 5:

1) Rudy
2) Trevor Ariza
3) Lamar Odom
4) Jordan Farmar
5) Andrei Kirilenko

JordansBulls
11-14-2008, 11:50 AM
Quite a few candidates:

Odom
AK47
Gordon
Rudy

$ NyC $
11-14-2008, 11:51 AM
Have to go with my boy Nate Robinson then AK47. BG7 shouldn't count as a sixth man cuz he plays more than the 4th and 5th man lol.

Macedonian
11-14-2008, 12:33 PM
Nate Robinson

Afridi786
11-14-2008, 12:35 PM
lol homer picks in this thread.

LAKERS 24/7
11-14-2008, 03:44 PM
Too many homers in these kinds of threads. Homers, GET OVER IT! Do you guys believe your own lies or what?


I presonally think that the 6th man should go to a legitimate bench player. Maybe I'm being a homer by nominating Leon Powe from Boston. It's just that he's the only player I ever watch coming off the bench. Although he doesn't provide the best numbers it's his presence. His ability to draw charges and just simply defend... that's why I think he should be considered.


My top 5:

1) Rudy
2) Trevor Ariza
3) Lamar Odom
4) Jordan Farmar
5) Andrei Kirilenko

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

MiamiHeat
11-14-2008, 04:04 PM
too early
stats could change by the end of the season

Lakers4ItAll
11-14-2008, 04:10 PM
Exactly so whats the point......


too early
stats could change by the end of the season

mrblisterdundee
11-14-2008, 04:22 PM
Fernandez, Rudy

Yogi
11-14-2008, 04:24 PM
Mother****ing Nick Young.

Missing56&33
11-14-2008, 05:00 PM
Nate Robinson is in the mix....

14.5 ppg, 4.1 apg, 4.1 rpg, 2.4 spg, 48 fg%, 45 3p%

i like nate, i think hes playing the best off the bench in the whole league

astrosmaniac
11-14-2008, 05:11 PM
i think players like manu, odom, AK47, BG7 are all players who honestly should be starting on their teams, and most likely will be in the game at the end of the game. i think 6th man should go to players like poe, ariza, nate, brooks. guys who are actualy bench players

futureheisman
11-14-2008, 05:12 PM
Rudy hands down

ameer9521
11-14-2008, 05:24 PM
Nate Robinson is in the mix....

14.5 ppg, 4.1 apg, 4.1 rpg, 2.4 spg, 48 fg%, 45 3p%

ben gordan, but i think he's starting now!

jaytriskit
11-14-2008, 05:30 PM
Maurice Evans

Giaps
11-15-2008, 01:01 AM
15 points, 5 assists, 4 rebounds, 3 steals for my main man Nate tonight. Homer or not, you can't reasonably say he's not in the mix.

sportsnutzz
11-20-2008, 09:11 AM
AK47 last night-

16 points, 7 Rb, 3 assists, 5 stl, 4 blk, in 29 min......

DerekRE_3
11-20-2008, 03:26 PM
AK47 last night-

16 points, 7 Rb, 3 assists, 5 stl, 4 blk, in 29 min......

AK has been awesome in his new role.

rhino17
11-20-2008, 05:10 PM
I think once Shane Battier comes back, and Ron Artest moves to the bench, he will be the 6th man

kswissdaf
11-20-2008, 05:14 PM
rudy f

haircanada
11-20-2008, 05:29 PM
rudy rudy ruddddyyyyy

futureheisman
11-20-2008, 05:33 PM
rudy no doubt

TheShowzOver
11-20-2008, 05:59 PM
As of right now i'd have to give it to Brian Scalabrine

His ice cold viper killer instinct in last nights game against the Knicks with KG out on a 1 game suspension was just cold blooded

domenicd
11-20-2008, 06:00 PM
I have to go with AK-47 because he can come in and play almost any position (even PG a little)...ok, maybe not center. But he really is a 6th man because he can come in to play 2-3-4. Pretty much all of the other guys come in and play only 1 position. I think to be considered a 6th man, you need to play at least 2 if not 3 positions. As well, most of the other guys mentioned can't play any defense...they are basically scoring guys and AK can play defense as well as score.

domenicd
11-20-2008, 06:06 PM
....................

Vinny642
11-20-2008, 06:09 PM
LOL Sean Marks JK JK IM not really following it but i dont like rudy but he good.... yo giaps GREAT SIG!!!

DerekRE_3
11-20-2008, 06:45 PM
I think once Shane Battier comes back, and Ron Artest moves to the bench, he will be the 6th man

You don't think Battier will be their 6th man? Isn't Artest too good to not start? Of course Artest against another team's bench is pretty scary.

sciferguy
11-20-2008, 06:49 PM
definately Rudy

eugene
11-20-2008, 07:02 PM
Andrei Kirilenko or Nate Robinson for sure!!

Rockets Fanatic
11-20-2008, 07:05 PM
no doubt here

Kwame Brown

madiaz3
11-20-2008, 07:22 PM
6th Man has to go to Rudy Fernandez right now... his numbers are almost identical to Nate Robinson's but the difference in teams' playing styles makes it even more impressive for Rudy to put up the numbers that he is. D'Antoni's system is predicated on a high tempo game which means that there will be more opportunities to accrue stats versus a normally managed tempo. The Blazers have the slowest offensive management in the league which means Rudy is putting up very similar stats with far fewer opportunities.

I haven't looked it up, but my guess would be that Rudy's PER is MUCH higher than Nate Robinson's... not that PER is the end all be all, but it does make for a legit argument.

Rudy 19.62 PER to Nate's 19.51. Not much to go on.

Chronz
11-20-2008, 08:03 PM
Lamar Odom deserves some consideration.
Why when he hasnt even been the Lakers best bench player?



6th Man has to go to Rudy Fernandez right now... his numbers are almost identical to Nate Robinson's but the difference in teams' playing styles makes it even more impressive for Rudy to put up the numbers that he is. D'Antoni's system is predicated on a high tempo game which means that there will be more opportunities to accrue stats versus a normally managed tempo. The Blazers have the slowest offensive management in the league which means Rudy is putting up very similar stats with far fewer opportunities.

I haven't looked it up, but my guess would be that Rudy's PER is MUCH higher than Nate Robinson's... not that PER is the end all be all, but it does make for a legit argument.
Not much of a difference in their PER, because even if you pace adjust Nates stats hes still the superior rebounder, playmaker and sports the higher usage rate, the efficiency in Rudy's game is significant enough to still give him the edge but PER is primarily a usage driven stat so it can overrate players who are just ineffective chuckers. The trick is recognizing these players and their roles on the team, sometimes players are forced into carrying bigger loads and it actually hurts their game thouh this isnt often the case for small role players. So when comparing to players with drastically different roles you have to judge which is more important to his teams success, usage vs efficiency.

Kings Faithful
11-20-2008, 08:06 PM
This might be a little homer but Hawes deserves some consideration.....

12 ppg 8 rpg 1 apg 1 spg and 2 bpg in only 28 mpg.

Ben Gordon is pretty good as well with

20 ppg 3 rpg 4 apg and 1 spg in 33 minutes, but he's played half his games so far as a starter in which his numbers were bigger, for obvious reasons.

Hawes also has a better eff. rating than Nate Robinson, Rudy Fernandez, and Ben Gordon.....
I think Kirilenko would win it right now thoe, but in all honesty he should be starting for the Jazz.

Chronz
11-20-2008, 08:12 PM
This might be a little homer but Hawes deserves some consideration.....

12 ppg 8 rpg 1 apg 1 spg and 2 bpg in only 28 mpg.

Ben Gordon is pretty good as well with

20 ppg 3 rpg 4 apg and 1 spg in 33 minutes, but he's played half his games so far as a starter in which his numbers were bigger, for obvious reasons.

His numbers were better as a sub though, its always good to see the 6th man of the year actually be at his best as a reserve. Unlike when Bobby J won it for his play as a starter.

Still good choice, one that not many mentioned

EAGLES3658
11-20-2008, 08:32 PM
Nick Young!:clap:

Mr.Grizzly
11-20-2008, 09:13 PM
Undoubtably Rudy

Kings Faithful
11-20-2008, 09:31 PM
His numbers were better as a sub though, its always good to see the 6th man of the year actually be at his best as a reserve. Unlike when Bobby J won it for his play as a starter.

Still good choice, one that not many mentioned

Jackson deserved that award...he pwned in 03.

JayW_1023
11-21-2008, 04:59 AM
Ak-47

LAKERS 24/7
11-21-2008, 05:18 AM
Why when he hasnt even been the Lakers best bench player?

That's up for debate but you have a point. Lamar has been slightly better than ariza statistically, but there's not enough separation to make a clear cut choice.

megamonsterman
11-21-2008, 12:29 PM
I have to go with AK-47 because he can come in and play almost any position (even PG a little)...ok, maybe not center. But he really is a 6th man because he can come in to play 2-3-4. Pretty much all of the other guys come in and play only 1 position. I think to be considered a 6th man, you need to play at least 2 if not 3 positions. As well, most of the other guys mentioned can't play any defense...they are basically scoring guys and AK can play defense as well as score.

Too early to tell, AK47 fizzle after all star game. Watch...

rhino17
11-21-2008, 12:51 PM
You don't think Battier will be their 6th man? Isn't Artest too good to not start? Of course Artest against another team's bench is pretty scary.

He doesnt fit well with tmac and yao. He seems to clog up the paint and take too long with his movements. Battier spaces the floor better and stays out of the way. Artest will still get over 30 minutes but I think he would fit better off the bench

DerekRE_3
11-21-2008, 02:36 PM
He doesnt fit well with tmac and yao. He seems to clog up the paint and take too long with his movements. Battier spaces the floor better and stays out of the way. Artest will still get over 30 minutes but I think he would fit better off the bench

Which duo is better on the court? Artest and Yao or Artest and T-Mac? Or is Artest better off on the court without them?

Chronz
11-21-2008, 03:23 PM
That's up for debate but you have a point. Lamar has been slightly better than ariza statistically, but there's not enough separation to make a clear cut choice.

Not really, Ariza's stats in the 22 minutes he plays are much better than Odoms the fact that hes a superior defender only makes the choice easier. Its amazing that the Lakers have 4 players with a PER above 19, and 6 above 15 along with playing the best defense in the league. This is probably the most talented team of the decade, if Kobe doesnt win a title this year it would go down as the single greatest disappointment from any superstar.