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kobe24>jordan23
10-31-2008, 06:50 PM
http://www.nba.com/2008/news/features/rob_peterson/10/31/race.to.mvp/index.html



1. Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers

Stats: PPG -- 19.5; RPG -- 9.5; APG -- 4.0; SPG -- 1.5; BPG -- 0.0; FG% -- .483; FT% -- .833
Comment: Love him or hate him, Kobe's greatness can't be denied. He's talented, he works hard and he plays hurt. For anyone other than Kobe to win MVP this season, they'll need to take it from him. Think he'll let that happen easily? His initial individual numbers for this season aren't eye-popping, but his Lakers have won their first two games by an average of 29 points.

2. Chris Paul, New Orleans Hornets

Stats: PPG -- 20.5; RPG -- 6.5; APG -- 10.5; SPG -- 3.0; BPG -- 0.5; FG% -- .484; FT% -- .833
Comment: Paul is rapidly becoming the best 6-foot-and-under player in NBA history. No, seriously. After a breakout season, Paul picked up where he left off last season. Digits for the first two games -- 20.5 points, 10.5 dimes and 6.5 boards. Impressive for a man of any height.

3. Paul Pierce, Boston Celtics

Stats: PPG -- 27.0; RPG -- 3.0; APG -- 4.0; SPG -- 1.0; BPG -- 0.0; FG% -- .526; FT% -- .625
Comment: So what if he cried at the Celtics ring ceremony as if he'd watched a Beaches and Steel Magnolias double feature? It was his banner party and he could cry if he wanted to. You would cry too if it happened to you. Dropping 27 on Tuesday against the Cavs' D after that emotional opener was equally impressive.

4. LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers

Stats: PPG -- 22.0; RPG -- 8.0; APG -- 7.5; SPG -- 1.0; BPG -- 1.0; FG% -- .444; FT% -- .600
Comment: LeBron may be the most physically gifted player not only on the planet, but also in NBA history. To be 6-9 and 250 and move like he does? Otherworldly. But dude's got to get his mind right late in games. Yes, he can take over, but you can't miss four free throws down the stretch as he did opening night in Boston.

5. Chris Bosh, Toronto Raptors

Stats: PPG -- 27.0; RPG -- 11.0; APG -- 4.0; SPG -- 1.0; BPG -- 1.0; FG% -- .563; FT% -- .900
Comment: The addition of one Jermaine O'Neal means less wear and tear for the sixth-year forward out of Georgia Tech. I know it's only one game so far, but if Bosh can play as he did in the Raptors' opener, the rest of the East needs to beware.

6. Yao Ming, Houston Rockets

Stats: PPG -- 25.5; RPG -- 11.5; APG -- 1.5; SPG -- 0.0; BPG -- 1.5; FG% -- .586; FT% -- 1.000
Comment: Who knows if Yao will be here when Race to the MVP turns out the lights on another season in April, but I believe no one is more important to the Rockets' success than the 7-6 center. He got off on the right foot this season, especially with a 30-13-3 performance in a win in Dallas on Thursday. Speaking of feet, it'd be nice if Yao stays healthy for a change.

7. Dwight Howard, Orlando Magic

Stats: PPG -- 22.0; RPG -- 15.0; APG -- 1.0; SPG -- 5.0; BPG -- 5.0; FG% -- .533; FT% -- .462
Comment: Howard has a world of talent and the Magic should take the Southeast. His 22-point, 15-rebound, five-block and five-steal performance was one for the ages. But the Magic still lost to the Hawks on Wednesday. Can a guy get some help, please? Oh, and can a guy get some help with his free throw shooting? Yikes!

8. Amare Stoudemire, Phoenix Suns

Stats: PPG -- 21.5; RPG -- 10.0; APG -- 3.0; SPG -- 0.5; BPG -- 0.5; FG% -- .630; FT% -- .750
Comment: In his first two games, STAT has put up impressive stats with 21.5 points and 10 boards per, but the most impressive may be this one: .630 from the field. Yeah, I know, it's early, but with Shaq demanding the opposing center stick to him, Amare has free reign on pick and rolls.

9. Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs

Stats: PPG -- 32.0; RPG -- 6.0; APG -- 3.0; SPG -- 0.0; BPG -- 0.0; FG% -- .619; FT% -- .600
Comment: Really? This is Duncan's 12th season? Hard to believe, but the man can still bring it on a nightly basis. It's true that the Spurs lost their opener to the Suns, but Duncan tallied 32 to go with six boards. He may not spend much time in the top 10 this season, but we needed to pay our respects to Mr. Duncan early.

10. Deron Williams, Utah Jazz

Stats: PPG -- 0.0; RPG -- 0.0; APG -- 0.0; SPG -- 0.0; BPG -- 0.0; FG% -- .000; FT% -- .000
Comment: He may miss the first two games of the season with an ankle sprain, but the reason Williams is here is because he's the best player on one of the West's best teams. That, and he and Chris Paul will forever be linked as the two premiere guards in the 2005 Draft. Who's better? Paul is right now, but in head-to-head matchups, Williams has owned Paul. And that has to count for something.



:clap:! kobe 4 president lol!

bidi_nash
10-31-2008, 06:54 PM
the stat names are a bit off it says bosh had 11.0 APG when it should be RPG but anyways too early for this but BOSH all the way

kobe24>jordan23
10-31-2008, 06:55 PM
i know i got confused 2 but look at it and it does say reb.

DODGERS&LAKERS
10-31-2008, 07:00 PM
No way Kobe wins it this year. I dont think he will average more than 22 4 and 4. Not cause he is getting old. He probably will only play around 32 minutes in the season due to all the blowouts they will have. I say its Chris Pauls year. Him or Lebron

astrosmaniac
10-31-2008, 07:01 PM
kobe hasnt put up numbers like some other players this year. he deserves to be top 10 but not #1 right now

MiamiHeat
10-31-2008, 07:08 PM
WHAT!! NO WADE?

1st game -
26 points

7 rebounds

9 assists

L@ker4Life
10-31-2008, 07:12 PM
Part of the reason he will not put up the numbers that others may is because he is sacrificing his game for the good of the team. He can easily out do anyone in any category, but the Lakers as a team would suffer. Plus they are aiming at only playing him about 26-28 mins a game so his stats will be affected. If the MVP criteria stays the same Kobe will win cause he will be the best player on the best team record wise come april.

Mane
10-31-2008, 07:12 PM
Deshawn Stevenson>all of them.

barreleffact
10-31-2008, 07:15 PM
agree with the top 3 of 4. take pierce away and put KG in there. add wade to the list too. but about the pierce, KG thing...if you take away KG, what do you have? A team with no defensive core and 2 good scorers and some mediocre ones. If you take away pierce what do you have? the same thing plus a defensive core and the reigning DPOY...who is the more valuable? not pierce so how can he be MVP?

dre1990
10-31-2008, 07:26 PM
WHAT!! NO WADE?

1st game -
26 points

7 rebounds

9 assists


and a loss to the knicks

BoltLakerPadre
10-31-2008, 07:27 PM
As much as I want Kobe to get it again, there's no way he does it without absolutely blowing the competition out of the water. If it's even close they'll give it to Lebron, since Kobe's award was a half life-time achievement award for all those years he should have won it and they gave it to nash.

MiamiHeat
10-31-2008, 07:33 PM
and a loss to the knicks
:sigh:

bidi_nash
10-31-2008, 07:44 PM
and a loss to the knicks
hahaha

Beno7500
10-31-2008, 08:57 PM
and a loss to the knicks

:laugh2:

Vinny642
10-31-2008, 09:00 PM
Cp3 is doing great on this two game start

LAKERS 24/7
10-31-2008, 09:11 PM
If the lakers win 65+ games, Kobe should win it no matter what his stats.

ARMIN12NBA
10-31-2008, 09:14 PM
Although I do love muh man Kobe Bryant being atop the list, it is pretty useless to have a week 1 ranking for the race to the MVP. Anybody can have a big season opening game that will truly have no chance at winning the award. I think there will be more clarity around the 10 game mark. At that point, we will see around 10 guys capable of winning the award with a few clear frontrunners. As the season progresses, that number slowly lessens...until we get to 1.

JordansBulls
10-31-2008, 09:27 PM
Yao Ming looks like he can get it.

NYMetros
10-31-2008, 09:28 PM
I think Chris Paul will run away with the MVP, IMO he should have won it last year too.

FOBolous
10-31-2008, 09:30 PM
yao for MVP :)

deaner
10-31-2008, 10:16 PM
Bosh must get some love early.

_Sn1P3r_
10-31-2008, 10:24 PM
and a loss to the knicks

Yup that's why.

kswissdaf
10-31-2008, 10:37 PM
this is WAY to early to talk mvp

KB24PG16
10-31-2008, 10:38 PM
depends how the team does so its to early to tell

Lebron23
11-01-2008, 12:27 AM
It's to early to tell, but I think LeBron and Kobe will put up good stats in the month of November.

marvILLous
11-01-2008, 01:35 AM
Chris bosh!!

Kenny
11-01-2008, 01:49 AM
WHAT!! NO WADE?

1st game -
26 points

7 rebounds

9 assists

oh please, he was not good in that game.. He shot awful, if you shoot the ball as much as he does you should score that many points

Kenny
11-01-2008, 01:49 AM
btw, mvp talk after one game is a bit crazy

EddieB
11-01-2008, 01:52 AM
the black mamba

JJ81
11-01-2008, 05:15 AM
Lakers are cruising.

_Supreme_
11-01-2008, 10:14 AM
Chris Paul would be the MVP if you only count this one week (just like he should have been for the whole of last season).

But to even talk about this now is rediculous.

michaellui11
11-01-2008, 10:20 AM
lol
week 1 kobe?
10th=d will?
crazy
week 1 should be chris bosh

still1ballin
11-01-2008, 12:45 PM
Who ever has the best record will win

LD V2.0
11-01-2008, 12:51 PM
So far this week Bosh is 29PPG and 10REB. On top of that he's playing the high energy style game you all saw at the Olympics. He's been a beast and so, so clutch. Last night he had to hit a pair of free throws to send it to OT and then he lead them to a strong finish to move to 2-0.

innovator
11-01-2008, 01:00 PM
lol why deron? even chris duhon deserves it more than deron at this piont lol

MiamiHeat
11-01-2008, 01:21 PM
^ They just didn't want to put Wade in it :D

jaycruz92
11-01-2008, 01:52 PM
stephan marbury

laker1000
11-01-2008, 01:54 PM
Kobe probably won't win it again. :(

oshea225
11-01-2008, 02:11 PM
they dont put wade in the top 10, but they have deron williams, who hasnt played once yet? right. makes total sense.

marvILLous
11-01-2008, 02:26 PM
So far this week Bosh is 29PPG and 10REB. On top of that he's playing the high energy style game you all saw at the Olympics. He's been a beast and so, so clutch. Last night he had to hit a pair of free throws to send it to OT and then he lead them to a strong finish to move to 2-0.

dont forget the blow by on biedrins and dunk with like 30 sec left in the 4th!!

kobe24>jordan23
11-01-2008, 02:47 PM
Kobe has a good chance of winning it! If the lakers win 65+

mkool65
11-01-2008, 02:50 PM
If the Pistons win all 82 games this year I gaurantee Kwame Brown wins MVP...

fredv
11-01-2008, 03:45 PM
wtf? Yao had 30 13 and he has came back from a serious injury. He should be higher.

Er1c
11-01-2008, 04:05 PM
Kobe probably won't win it again. :(

he probably won't win, but we will win the championship

zambo4president
11-01-2008, 04:09 PM
Bosh

b_rad23
11-01-2008, 04:40 PM
:laugh2:

And a blowout in Sac.
Wade is definitely top 10. No doubt in my mind.
Chris Paul is number one in my eyes.

td0tsfinest
11-01-2008, 05:05 PM
WHAT!! NO WADE?

1st game -
26 points

7 rebounds

9 assists

stats is one thing bro; but winning games is another. If you lose to the knicks thats one thing but if you get wiped out by the knicks than I don't think there should be any consideration for MVP; at least for the first week.

oshea225
11-01-2008, 05:10 PM
stats is one thing bro; but winning games is another. If you lose to the knicks thats one thing but if you get wiped out by the knicks than I don't think there should be any consideration for MVP; at least for the first week.

heat lost by 5 to the knicks. wipe out? i think not

MiamiHeat
11-01-2008, 06:35 PM
stats is one thing bro; but winning games is another. If you lose to the knicks thats one thing but if you get wiped out by the knicks than I don't think there should be any consideration for MVP; at least for the first week.

so your saying Deron Williams who has no played a single game deserves to be there more than Wade?

amare#1
11-01-2008, 07:13 PM
Deron Williams being there is a joke. Boozer should be #10 instead.

Hawkeye15
11-01-2008, 07:15 PM
Toronto may not win enough games for Bosh to have a shot, but he looks awesome. He is playing at an intensity and confidence I haven't seen before.

DODGERS&LAKERS
11-01-2008, 07:51 PM
Toronto may not win enough games for Bosh to have a shot, but he looks awesome. He is playing at an intensity and confidence I haven't seen before.

Agreed. I dont know if you read anything on ESPN but Hollinger seems to think putting 2 seven footers together somehow hurts one of the players. It seems to have worked out for Duncan and Robinson, Shaq and Amare worked great together, Bosh and Oneal look pretty good and Bynum and Gasol dont look to sad to be playing next to each other. I would take 2 talented big men together any day of the millennium

still1ballin
11-02-2008, 12:17 AM
heat lost by 5 to the knicks. wipe out? i think not

Bobcats?

Flash812
11-02-2008, 01:14 AM
Paul has the best chance except for the fact he plays in New Orleans. One reaon is the PG behind him sucks and makes CP look just better and better at running the hornets offense, another reason is the team he is on is vastly improved so they can have a chance at a top 2 seed. Kobe will not win 2 years in a row, Lebron doe have a great chance if the Cavs could get a top 2 or 3 playoff seed though. I would say those 2 guys are in big competition but there are way to many things that can happen the next 79 games to change that.

EddieB
11-02-2008, 01:18 AM
the black mamba had 33 tonight, don't count him out

rico
11-02-2008, 01:19 AM
kobe shouldnt of won it ast year. cp3 shouldve.

KobeIs
11-02-2008, 01:32 AM
kobe hasnt put up numbers like some other players this year. he deserves to be top 10 but not #1 right now

Sorry but in the past years, only the best player on the best team is named the MVP.

Not the player with the best stats. Look at Kobe when he averaged 35 pts. He was considered for the MVP.

I would only look at the teams that are currently undefeated. Then you can rank the players however you like.

JordansBulls
11-02-2008, 01:41 AM
Sorry but in the past years, only the best player on the best team is named the MVP.

Not the player with the best stats. Look at Kobe when he averaged 35 pts. He was considered for the MVP.

I would only look at the teams that are currently undefeated. Then you can rank the players however you like.

The guy with the highest scoring average isn't the guy with the best stats. The guy with the highest PER/EFF has the best stats barring they play 30+ mpg.

DODGERS&LAKERS
11-02-2008, 01:41 AM
I say CP3 should be number 1. His team has been the most impressive so far this season. They have beaten 3 really good teams already. 2 of them on the road.

Joshtd1
11-02-2008, 01:44 AM
Too bad the Spurs couldnt have won the first two games, because both TD and TP would be included IMO.

DODGERS&LAKERS
11-02-2008, 01:45 AM
The guy with the highest scoring average isn't the guy with the best stats. The guy with the highest PER/EFF has the best stats barring they play 30+ mpg.

What does PER take into account? You always mention it and I have no idea what you are talking about. I assume its good cause usually the best players have the highest PER'S. But who made that up and what variables make up that stat?

barreleffact
11-02-2008, 01:47 AM
i think kobe has a good chance of repeating. it will be tough, but he def stands a chance

Bishnoff
11-02-2008, 02:23 AM
Kobe's award was a half life-time achievement award for all those years he should have won it and they gave it to nash.

You gotta lead your team to more than 34 wins (04-05) and 45 wins (05-06) to get the MVP award. Hence why Nash won it those 2 seasons.

rapswin98
11-02-2008, 01:29 PM
watch out for bosh

EddieB
11-02-2008, 02:01 PM
The guy with the highest scoring average isn't the guy with the best stats. The guy with the highest PER/EFF has the best stats barring they play 30+ mpg.

It also depends on the team they play on, if he is playing with scubs, everyone will converge on you to make sure shots tougher, times have changed today, it's not the same as your precious jordan years, rules are different, athletes are stronger and more athletic, you just can't base it on highest PER/EEF, you have to consider everything in the equation.

Kabowdos
11-02-2008, 02:25 PM
kobe hasnt put up numbers like some other players this year. he deserves to be top 10 but not #1 right now

Lakers won by 20 then 40...

He then put 33 points in a closer game against the Nuggets. He scores and puts up stats when he has to. Kobe is MVP!

_Supreme_
11-02-2008, 02:28 PM
CP3 has the MVP of this week hands down, even after two of his starting teammates went down.

Not being carried by your teammates like a certain someone, but the other way around, now that is a TRUE MVP ;)

$ NyC $
11-02-2008, 02:51 PM
Guys this is based on last year/preseason first 2 games. I think Wade will def. crack the top 10, he got the talent to be top 5 but it depends on the team.

GCOOKIE7
11-02-2008, 03:13 PM
Bosh is proving this year that he's now a superstar

JOSETHEALLSTAR
11-02-2008, 03:56 PM
yao ming is looking good just needs to stay health