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DerekRE_3
10-21-2008, 08:49 PM
This is the thread to put all trade rumors and ideas involving the Charlotte Bobcats for the 2008-2009 season.

jimbobjarree
10-22-2008, 09:17 AM
ok I think we need to think up some Gerald Wallace trades

DerekRE_3
10-22-2008, 01:07 PM
ok I think we need to think up some Gerald Wallace trades

:pity:

Jimbob I've had enough of your AK/Walllace trades.

jimbobjarree
10-22-2008, 01:10 PM
ak for wallace sounds good

JakeDelbreezy
10-22-2008, 01:56 PM
Naturally, a lot of people are now speculating about what team Morrison might be traded to. A potential rumor involves a trade with the New York Knicks where the Bobcats would acquire Eddy Curry in return for the sharpshooter.

http://www.nbarumors.info/2008/10/morrison-trade-rumors/

What do you guys think about Eddy Curry? He doesn't seem to fit Larry Brown's philosopy at all...of course I don't know the credibility of the reporter so it could be nothing.

DerekRE_3
10-22-2008, 04:26 PM
http://www.nbarumors.info/2008/10/morrison-trade-rumors/

What do you guys think about Eddy Curry? He doesn't seem to fit Larry Brown's philosopy at all...of course I don't know the credibility of the reporter so it could be nothing.

Interesting find. I'm not sure what to think of that trade yet. He does give us a low post presence though. I think the perfect fit for the Bobcats would be a player like David West.

jimbobjarree
10-22-2008, 05:19 PM
i think the main tip is to just stay away from all Knicks players all together

DerekRE_3
10-22-2008, 05:21 PM
Except David Lee.

jetsfan28
11-04-2008, 03:57 PM
Eddy Curry had the best two seasons of his career thanks to Larry Brown.

2006 - He was coached by Brown, had 13.6 points per game on 53.6% shooting, 6 RPG, .8 BPG in only 26 MPG.
2007 - The team still ran through Curry like it did when Brown was there and he had 19.5 PPG, 7 RPG on 57.6% shooting in 35 MPG


If anyone can get anything out of Curry, it's Brown, and his value's at it's lowest point right now.

homestarunner93
11-04-2008, 05:15 PM
I sure hope we trade Morrison for Curry. Not because I like Curry but because that would mean we are keeping G-Force.

Raps08-09 Champ
11-21-2008, 03:33 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...1~30&te=&cash=

Line-ups

Suns:
C-O'neal, Lopez
PF-Amar'e, Barnes
SF-Wallace, Hill
SG-Bell, Barbosa
PG-Nash, Grodac

Knicks:
C- Randolph, Lee
PF- Harrington, Diaw
SF- Chandler, Gallinari
SG- Q.Richardson, Collins
PG- Duhon, Robinson

Bobcats:
C- Curry, Mohamed, Ajinca
PF- Okafor, May
SF- J.Richardson, Dudley
SG- Morrison, Carroll
PG- Felton, Augustine

All teams get what they wanted

Cats get a center to play with Okafor and get a rebounder, and scorer just incase Okafor goes down

Suns get a wing scorer that can help them go into a deep playoff run, porter can evenly distribute points between theyre 4 main players(Nash, Amar'e, Shaq and Wallce), Wallace is kinda like marion

Knicks get one of D'antonies favourite players and get something in return for unused player


I know that all the teams will still have problems after the trade like no pf behind amar'e or Curry's attitude problems or knicks no real Center that they use but i think they can get around all that

What do you think?

black1605
11-21-2008, 06:57 PM
the bobcats get hosed....wallace for curry straight up? no way

Raps08-09 Champ
11-21-2008, 09:40 PM
the bobcats get hosed....wallace for curry straight up? no way

What about giving charlotte a draft pick or and an extra player on both sides

black1605
11-21-2008, 11:28 PM
i still dont like it, we lose a top player for a guy who doesnt give 100% and a draft pick when we need a vet...we have young guys, we need proven guys

Kaman is the best fit for us now, and now that they have Randolph, Kaman is somewhat expendable considering no one would want camby....i like for us to make a 3 way deal with the clippers and nets that lands us kaman, and hopefully keeps wallace around

oballers
12-27-2008, 03:52 PM
Ok here is my ridiculous 4 team thread.

Personally, I don't think Brown, McaHale and Mullin really have the leeway to make this work but I like what this does for all teams.


Minnesota
Gives: Rashad McCants, Mike Miller, Mark Madsen
Gets: Gerald Wallace, Corey Maggette

PG Randy Foye
SG Corey Maggette
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Kevin Love
C Al jefferson

(Upgrade at SF and SG, defensively strong starting 5 with prolific scoring. Definate playoff contender. May even save McHale's job.)

Charlotte
Gives: Adam Morrison, Gerald Wallace, Matt Carroll
Gets: Eddie Curry, Mike Madsen, Jared Jeffries

PG Raymond Felton
SG Raja Bell
SF Boris Diaw
PF Emeka Okafor
C Eddie Curry

(Bobcats get big. Shed Carrol and Morrison and move Okafor to natural position. Curry next to okafr and Diaw very effective. Also helps pull D from DJ, Raja and Felton. do not need to resign May or can trade him if possible.)

New York
Gives: Eddy Curry, Malik Rose, David Lee, Jared Jeffries
Gets: Anthony Randolph, Adam Morrison, Steven Jackson, Mike Miller

PG Chris Duhon
SG Mike Miller
SF Steven Jackson
PF Al Harrington
C A. Randolph

(Randolph C for the future, Morison and Miller exp 1n by 2010. Jackson's deal is five years but great shooter and very good defender. Good piece for when Lebron comes.)

Golden State
Gives: Corey Maggette, Stephen Jackson, Anthony Randolph
Gets: Rashad McCants, David Lee, Malik Rose, Matt Carroll

PG Monte Ellis
SG Jamal Crawford
SF Rashad McCants
PF David Lee
C Andris Biedrins

McCants, Lee and Rose all 1 year Exp contracts. Carroll long term 3pt specialist. (Gets out of Jackson and Magette deals)

DerekRE_3
12-27-2008, 04:19 PM
Ok here is my ridiculous 4 team thread.

Personally, I don't think Brown, McaHale and Mullin really have the leeway to make this work but I like what this does for all teams.


Minnesota
Gives: Rashad McCants, Mike Miller, Mark Madsen
Gets: Gerald Wallace, Corey Maggette

PG Randy Foye
SG Corey Maggette
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Kevin Love
C Al jefferson

(Upgrade at SF and SG, defensively strong starting 5 with prolific scoring. Definate playoff contender. May even save McHale's job.)

Charlotte
Gives: Adam Morrison, Gerald Wallace, Matt Carroll
Gets: Eddie Curry, Mike Madsen, Jared Jeffries

PG Raymond Felton
SG Raja Bell
SF Boris Diaw
PF Emeka Okafor
C Eddie Curry

(Bobcats get big. Shed Carrol and Morrison and move Okafor to natural position. Curry next to okafr and Diaw very effective. Also helps pull D from DJ, Raja and Felton. do not need to resign May or can trade him if possible.)

New York
Gives: Eddy Curry, Malik Rose, David Lee, Jared Jeffries
Gets: Anthony Randolph, Adam Morrison, Steven Jackson, Mike Miller

PG Chris Duhon
SG Mike Miller
SF Steven Jackson
PF Al Harrington
C A. Randolph

(Randolph C for the future, Morison and Miller exp 1n by 2010. Jackson's deal is five years but great shooter and very good defender. Good piece for when Lebron comes.)

Golden State
Gives: Corey Maggette, Stephen Jackson, Anthony Randolph
Gets: Rashad McCants, David Lee, Malik Rose, Matt Carroll

PG Monte Ellis
SG Jamal Crawford
SF Rashad McCants
PF David Lee
C Andris Biedrins

McCants, Lee and Rose all 1 year Exp contracts. Carroll long term 3pt specialist. (Gets out of Jackson and Magette deals)

That is a terrible trade for Charlotte.

GreatMustachio
12-27-2008, 06:31 PM
Charlotte would never do this. its awful

trout1627
01-01-2009, 06:59 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Arq5hhg.EoGobN9PG0j1VXA5nYcB?slug=aw-jennings123108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

This site says Charlotte wants to trade Morrison and Felton. What is Charlotte realistically looking for in terms of solving problems? Is it cap space for the future, or is it an immediate fix? If its an issue of opening up some money for next year, then, as Knick fan, I would suggest a trade for Malik Rose. The numbers would work, and he comes off your books next year. Frankly, I have no interest in Morrison but would take him if Felton came with him. On the other hand, if you guys need an immediate fix, the only player I can see you wanting is Lee, and I would not trade him for those two guys. Just curious.

The other thing is Curry. Now we all know the Knicks are tired of his work ethic and his other issues. But if he regains his form from 2006-2007, he would be good. He will never fit in D'Antoni's run and gun game even if he heals up. He might fit with Larry Brown. If you guys did Morrison, Felton and Ajica for Curry, the numbers would work. As I said before, I only care about Felton. The other two would be financial filler. Maybe 7' Ajica could develop for us, but that's a longshot.

Now both our records are pretty bad. So let's not trash talk these ideas. Just please let me know the pros and cons.

JakeDelbreezy
01-01-2009, 07:33 PM
No way they would trade all 3 of those guys for Curry. Ajinca isn't going to be traded and Morrison's value is at a low right now, so I doubt they'll move him. The Bobcats FO may be interested in Curry for whatever reason, but I don't think the fans want him at all...for the same reasons you Knicks fans are ready to get rid of him..

jimbobjarree
01-01-2009, 08:20 PM
Booz for G Force and something for the sals

Robbw241
01-02-2009, 12:54 AM
Sign this guy (http://www.nypost.com/seven/07212008/photos/nachbar721.jpg)

DerekRE_3
01-02-2009, 05:04 AM
Sign this guy (http://www.nypost.com/seven/07212008/photos/nachbar721.jpg)

I'd rather have this guy (http://www.nba.com/media/act_justin_williams.jpg).

jimbobjarree
01-02-2009, 08:41 PM
back hander from the dezzer there

homestarunner93
01-03-2009, 12:43 AM
I'd take Boki any day.

yoloboy87
01-03-2009, 02:46 PM
kings:
g wallace
bobcats:
b miller

andog_22
01-03-2009, 03:51 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2821~3455~3039~2433~2010~2753~ 568&teams=28~30~30~9~30~9~28&te=&cash=

uncblue2332
01-05-2009, 11:15 PM
i know he wont help this year but how about Matt Carroll for Brendan Haywood or Etan Thomas either way we get cap room for 2010 and we get a center and get rid of a SG which we have plenty of

torontoraptors1
01-10-2009, 06:09 PM
gerald wallace to toronto for anthony parker and jamario moon

homestarunner93
01-11-2009, 01:29 AM
i know he wont help this year but how about Matt Carroll for Brendan Haywood or Etan Thomas either way we get cap room for 2010 and we get a center and get rid of a SG which we have plenty of

I'd really like either of those deals, but I don't know how interested the Wizards would be.

bobcats4life101
01-20-2009, 12:47 PM
would bobcats want to get sean williams from the nets???

bobcats4life101
01-20-2009, 07:15 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753~3016~1026~3211~1726~849&teams=23~23~23~30~30~30&te=&cash=

bobcats4life101
01-20-2009, 07:19 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2776~3016~1731&teams=25~25~30&te=&cash=

bobcats4life101
01-20-2009, 07:25 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2992~2753~2776~568~1711~2381&teams=4~4~4~4~30~30&te=&cash=

homestarunner93
01-20-2009, 07:44 PM
Fair, but not a terribly great deal for either team.

homestarunner93
01-20-2009, 07:45 PM
I don't really see the need for this trade.

homestarunner93
01-20-2009, 07:46 PM
I like Gordon, but I think Felton is really becoming a good player. Also, I think the Bulls are getting slighted.

Havoc52
01-27-2009, 09:24 PM
I was just reading an article about how Amare Stoudamire might be the first to go out of pheonix before the deadline. If so i was wondering what everyone thought of a package of Gerald Wallace/Felton for Stoudamire/Barbosa. Charlotte would have to include more to make the money work like Nazr and May but could be others just an example. I like Wallace and felton a lot but i think this would be a good trade for us if it could happen. I feel that Okafor would play well next to Stoudamire. Just looking for some feedback.

homestarunner93
01-27-2009, 10:10 PM
I was just reading an article about how Amare Stoudamire might be the first to go out of pheonix before the deadline. If so i was wondering what everyone thought of a package of Gerald Wallace/Felton for Stoudamire/Barbosa. Charlotte would have to include more to make the money work like Nazr and May but could be others just an example. I like Wallace and felton a lot but i think this would be a good trade for us if it could happen. I feel that Okafor would play well next to Stoudamire. Just looking for some feedback.

Great trade for us, but I have to think they'd want Okafor in any deal for Amar'e. I don't even think I'd want to give up Okafor for Mr. No Defense.

Havoc52
01-27-2009, 11:45 PM
I know they would be giving up size in the deal but they are getting better stats in return. Amare/Barbosa combine for 3 more points than Wallace/Felton but Wallace/Felton combine for the same or better statistics in every other category. Plus it seems that both have fallen from grace in Terry Porters system. I doubt it would happen but both teams get rid of players they've both been trying to drop.

Raptor-54
01-28-2009, 12:40 AM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2433~2010~3249~2790~2776~1026&teams=30~30~30~30~28~28&te=&cash=

DerekRE_3
01-28-2009, 12:51 AM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2433~2010~3249~2790~2776~1026&teams=30~30~30~30~28~28&te=&cash=

Haha if I were the Bobcats GM I'd pass on that. I don't think the Bobcats are gonna do any major deals. The only thing I can see them doing is trying to improve their bench. Larry has said he really likes his roster now and the team is really coming together on both sides of the ball.

I seriously doubt Wallace gets traded. He's our best all around defender, he's a good rebounder and can finish the break better than anyone. Not only that, but against the Lakers in the 1st quarter tonight, Larry Brown was running the entire offense through Wallace. And he responded with 12 points and some nice passes when help came.

Chateamsfan
01-28-2009, 06:17 PM
Sean May, Adam Morrison, Raymond Felton, and Nazr Mohammed to Houston for Tracy McGrady and Maarty leunen?:clap:

Tisoykeis
01-28-2009, 06:39 PM
How interested would the bobcats be in acquiring Carlos Boozer from the Jazz?

In my mind, the only player on your team the Jazz could use is Emeka Okafor, but at first glance, it could be a win win for both teams. This would likely need to be a sign and trade during the offseason as Charlotte would want to make sure Boozer is healthy and will be around for 3-4 years at least.

Jazz View: The emergence of Paul Millsap makes Carlos Boozer expendable and Emeka Okafor would improve our interior defense.

Bobcats View: Charlotte already has Diop and Muhammad to play the 5 and Boozer is a much better option at 4 than Okafor.

Jazz Roster:
PG: Williams / Knight
SG: Brewer / Miles
SF: Kirilenko / Harpring
PF: Millsap / Okur
C: Okafor / Koufus

Bobcasts Roster:
PG: Felton / Augustin
SG: Bell / Brown
SF: Wallace / Diaw / Morrison
PF: Boozer / Diaw / May
C: Diop / Muhammad


Thoughts?

kanersen
01-28-2009, 06:48 PM
i thought boozer was out for the year and is optin out after the season's over

Chateamsfan
01-28-2009, 07:11 PM
How interested would the bobcats be in acquiring Carlos Boozer from the Jazz?

In my mind, the only player on your team the Jazz could use is Emeka Okafor, but at first glance, it could be a win win for both teams. This would likely need to be a sign and trade during the offseason as Charlotte would want to make sure Boozer is healthy and will be around for 3-4 years at least.

Jazz View: The emergence of Paul Millsap makes Carlos Boozer expendable and Emeka Okafor would improve our interior defense.

Bobcats View: Charlotte already has Diop and Muhammad to play the 5 and Boozer is a much better option at 4 than Okafor.

Jazz Roster:
PG: Williams / Knight
SG: Brewer / Miles
SF: Kirilenko / Harpring
PF: Millsap / Okur
C: Okafor / Koufus

Bobcasts Roster:
PG: Felton / Augustin
SG: Bell / Brown
SF: Wallace / Diaw / Morrison
PF: Boozer / Diaw / May
C: Diop / Muhammad


Thoughts?

That would freakin suck for us. We have no interest in Carlos Boozer. Besides I want Tracy McGrady !

Tisoykeis
01-28-2009, 07:38 PM
i thought boozer was out for the year and is optin out after the season's over

he should be back around the all star break. As for his option, nobody knows what he will do and what the market will pay him in the off season. That is why I said this would likely need to be a sign and trade where the Jazz sign him to and extension that Charlotte agrees with and then do the trade.

Tisoykeis
01-28-2009, 07:40 PM
That would freakin suck for us. We have no interest in Carlos Boozer. Besides I want Tracy McGrady !

Are you serious? Let's see..... McGrady or Boozer......90% of the league would take Boozer in a heart beat especially where Charlotte already has Gerald Wallace. I would much rather have Wallace on my team than McGrady, but that is just me.

masalex1205
01-29-2009, 01:49 PM
Are you serious? Let's see..... McGrady or Boozer......90% of the league would take Boozer in a heart beat especially where Charlotte already has Gerald Wallace. I would much rather have Wallace on my team than McGrady, but that is just me.

agreed. I don't think this is even an argument. McGrady is too injury proned and some question his commitment.

Boozer is a beast and would love to have him on the team but I don't feel comfortable w/ Diop and Muhammed holding down the center spot.

Chateamsfan
01-29-2009, 05:57 PM
You got a good point about McGrady being injury proned but I didnt say replace Wallace with McGrady because he would replace Bell in the lineup at the 2 spot. Trust me that trade I talked about of Sean May, Nazr Mohammed, Adam Morrison, and Raymond Felton to the Rockets for Tracy McGrady would benefit the Bobcats. DJ Augustin is really coming along. I say once Augustin gets healthy trade Felton.
Center - Emeka Okafor, Gana Diop, Alexis Ajinca
Power Foward - Boris Diaw, Juwan Howard
Small Forward - Gerald Wallace, Adam Morrison, Boris Diaw
Shooting Guard - Tracy McGrady, Raja Bell, Shannon Brown, Cartier Martin;
Point Guard - DJ Augustin, Sean Singletary, Shannon Brown
;):cool::clap:

masalex1205
01-30-2009, 02:04 PM
You got a good point about McGrady being injury proned but I didnt say replace Wallace with McGrady because he would replace Bell in the lineup at the 2 spot. Trust me that trade I talked about of Sean May, Nazr Mohammed, Adam Morrison, and Raymond Felton to the Rockets for Tracy McGrady would benefit the Bobcats. DJ Augustin is really coming along. I say once Augustin gets healthy trade Felton.
Center - Emeka Okafor, Gana Diop, Alexis Ajinca
Power Foward - Boris Diaw, Juwan Howard
Small Forward - Gerald Wallace, Adam Morrison, Boris Diaw
Shooting Guard - Tracy McGrady, Raja Bell, Shannon Brown, Cartier Martin;
Point Guard - DJ Augustin, Sean Singletary, Shannon Brown
;):cool::clap:


Don't get me wrong, I think that the Bobcats would do this trade in a heartbeat. We get rid of all our junk (May, Muhammed, and Morrison) and only give up one player of real value (felton)

who knows, maybe McGrady just needs a change of scenery (a la Diaw and Bell)

BUT I don't think there is anyway the Rockets do this in a million years

Chateamsfan
01-30-2009, 04:51 PM
Maybe the Bobcats could give away a future 1st round pick.

Chateamsfan
01-30-2009, 04:54 PM
We would have to sign some free agents because that leaves Charlotte with just about 12 players. Steve Francis anyone? He would have nice experience to the backcourt to help out Augustin.

HOZ THE KNICK
02-07-2009, 02:23 PM
is bell available?

homestarunner93
02-07-2009, 02:58 PM
is bell available?

Probably not, he's been playing really well for us, and I doubt the Knicks have anything of interest. We don't need or want Curry anymore.

PRiiMO
02-08-2009, 03:21 AM
Ok here is my ridiculous 4 team thread.

Personally, I don't think Brown, McaHale and Mullin really have the leeway to make this work but I like what this does for all teams.


Minnesota
Gives: Rashad McCants, Mike Miller, Mark Madsen
Gets: Gerald Wallace, Corey Maggette

PG Randy Foye
SG Corey Maggette
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Kevin Love
C Al jefferson

(Upgrade at SF and SG, defensively strong starting 5 with prolific scoring. Definate playoff contender. May even save McHale's job.)

Charlotte
Gives: Adam Morrison, Gerald Wallace, Matt Carroll
Gets: Eddie Curry, Mike Madsen, Jared Jeffries

PG Raymond Felton
SG Raja Bell
SF Boris Diaw
PF Emeka Okafor
C Eddie Curry

(Bobcats get big. Shed Carrol and Morrison and move Okafor to natural position. Curry next to okafr and Diaw very effective. Also helps pull D from DJ, Raja and Felton. do not need to resign May or can trade him if possible.)

New York
Gives: Eddy Curry, Malik Rose, David Lee, Jared Jeffries
Gets: Anthony Randolph, Adam Morrison, Steven Jackson, Mike Miller

PG Chris Duhon
SG Mike Miller
SF Steven Jackson
PF Al Harrington
C A. Randolph

(Randolph C for the future, Morison and Miller exp 1n by 2010. Jackson's deal is five years but great shooter and very good defender. Good piece for when Lebron comes.)

Golden State
Gives: Corey Maggette, Stephen Jackson, Anthony Randolph
Gets: Rashad McCants, David Lee, Malik Rose, Matt Carroll

PG Monte Ellis
SG Jamal Crawford
SF Rashad McCants
PF David Lee
C Andris Biedrins

McCants, Lee and Rose all 1 year Exp contracts. Carroll long term 3pt specialist. (Gets out of Jackson and Magette deals)


This deal really does not make any sense....Cats and GS dont get anyone for who their giving lol

Lucky Junior
02-09-2009, 04:49 AM
Anyone even considering the Cats receiving Curry is out of there mind lol. Brown hates that guy! I personally think that this season is over. Even if you make the playoffs they'd get bounced in the first, so this should be a plan for the future trade. I say...

Send PG Felton to the Grizzlies for their 1st rd pick.

Everyone is forgetting that Felton is a resricted free agent and that the Bobcats aren't intending on paying him big dollars. Augustine is the better natural point anyway. The
Grizzlies desperately need a PG since Conley has't panned out, and The Grizzles are bad enuogh that there pick has a good chance of landing in the top 4.

As far as the Grizzlies. They can afford Felton, PG is there biggest need, and this draft class is significan;ty lower than last years. So they'll take it.

Lucky Junior
02-09-2009, 05:02 AM
Ok here is my ridiculous 4 team thread.

Personally, I don't think Brown, McaHale and Mullin really have the leeway to make this work but I like what this does for all teams.


Minnesota
Gives: Rashad McCants, Mike Miller, Mark Madsen
Gets: Gerald Wallace, Corey Maggette

PG Randy Foye
SG Corey Maggette
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Kevin Love
C Al jefferson

(Upgrade at SF and SG, defensively strong starting 5 with prolific scoring. Definate playoff contender. May even save McHale's job.)

Charlotte
Gives: Adam Morrison, Gerald Wallace, Matt Carroll
Gets: Eddie Curry, Mike Madsen, Jared Jeffries

PG Raymond Felton
SG Raja Bell
SF Boris Diaw
PF Emeka Okafor
C Eddie Curry

(Bobcats get big. Shed Carrol and Morrison and move Okafor to natural position. Curry next to okafr and Diaw very effective. Also helps pull D from DJ, Raja and Felton. do not need to resign May or can trade him if possible.)

New York
Gives: Eddy Curry, Malik Rose, David Lee, Jared Jeffries
Gets: Anthony Randolph, Adam Morrison, Steven Jackson, Mike Miller

PG Chris Duhon
SG Mike Miller
SF Steven Jackson
PF Al Harrington
C A. Randolph

(Randolph C for the future, Morison and Miller exp 1n by 2010. Jackson's deal is five years but great shooter and very good defender. Good piece for when Lebron comes.)

Golden State
Gives: Corey Maggette, Stephen Jackson, Anthony Randolph
Gets: Rashad McCants, David Lee, Malik Rose, Matt Carroll

PG Monte Ellis
SG Jamal Crawford
SF Rashad McCants
PF David Lee
C Andris Biedrins

McCants, Lee and Rose all 1 year Exp contracts. Carroll long term 3pt specialist. (Gets out of Jackson and Magette deals)

This is the most ridiculous trade ever lol!!! The Cats and Warriors' GM's would get fired for even proposing this lol.

Maybe you forget that Brown hats Curry, Curry wouldn't give him any effort. Why the hell would you dump Jackson's deal? He's there best player and you want out of his deal?!?! Felton is a restricted free agent, so he's gone anyway. McCants can't play the 3 at all lol. Diaw is a horrible SF. The Knicks look good on paper, but you're essentially giving up a good chance at the top player in the league come 2010!!! And to top it off, the numbers don't pan out at all lol. You gotta get what you give salary wise unless if you are under the cap.

Chateamsfan
02-09-2009, 06:13 PM
Dont forget we just traded Adam Morrison and Shannon Brown to the Lakers for Vlad Radmonovic.

masalex1205
02-12-2009, 01:41 PM
Felton, Sean May for Bayless, Fernandez, and Frye

It works:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cpanom


Let me know what you think, feel free to tweak it...

king4day
02-12-2009, 02:18 PM
Felton, Sean May for Bayless, Fernandez, and Frye

It works:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cpanom


Let me know what you think, feel free to tweak it...

The Blazers are giving up way too much in return.
You can probably get away with Felton for Bayless though.
Not sure they'd want a PG in return though. Maybe outlaw instead?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2753~2015&teams=22~30&te=&cash=

DerekRE_3
02-12-2009, 02:32 PM
They aren't going to give up Fernandez AND Bayless for Felton.

JakeDelbreezy
02-12-2009, 02:42 PM
I'd chip in $20 to make this trade happen.

Chateamsfan
02-12-2009, 05:08 PM
I think Bobcats should Keep Felton because he's been great recently and we should trade Sean May and Nazr Mohammed. Felton and Augustin could be dynamic duo at PG. Resign Felton!!!!!! I dont care that he was dominant against Wizards he's been great in other games too! http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aotf6x

black1605
02-12-2009, 07:18 PM
I think Bobcats should Keep Felton because he's been great recently and we should trade Sean May and Nazr Mohammed. Felton and Augustin could be dynamic duo at PG. Resign Felton!!!!!! I dont care that he was dominant against Wizards he's been great in other games too! http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aotf6x


you are on crack if you think the Blazers would even answer the phone about that trade

homestarunner93
02-12-2009, 07:26 PM
Yeah, no chance that would happen.

blackjack_119
02-12-2009, 07:33 PM
I think Bobcats should Keep Felton because he's been great recently and we should trade Sean May and Nazr Mohammed. Felton and Augustin could be dynamic duo at PG. Resign Felton!!!!!! I dont care that he was dominant against Wizards he's been great in other games too! http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aotf6x

You might want to think about the other team in the trade. What conceivable reason would Portland have for doing that trade? Aldridge and Outlaw for a bad contract? We aren't trading a comparable package for Amare Stoudemire.

Portland wouldn't trade Bayless and Fernandez for Felton. If Portland wants Felton, they can sign him to an offer sheet this offseason. Darius Miles dropped the Blazers from $27M in cap space to $18M in cap space. If Portland offered Felton $8M/yr, Charlotte wouldn't match the offer for a player they view as a platoon PG with DJ Augustin.

Chateamsfan
02-12-2009, 09:03 PM
I just realized how bad of a trade that would be lol!

homestarunner93
02-12-2009, 09:44 PM
You might want to think about the other team in the trade. What conceivable reason would Portland have for doing that trade? Aldridge and Outlaw for a bad contract? We aren't trading a comparable package for Amare Stoudemire.

Portland wouldn't trade Bayless and Fernandez for Felton. If Portland wants Felton, they can sign him to an offer sheet this offseason. Darius Miles dropped the Blazers from $27M in cap space to $18M in cap space. If Portland offered Felton $8M/yr, Charlotte wouldn't match the offer for a player they view as a platoon PG with DJ Augustin.

I guarantee they would.

DerekRE_3
02-12-2009, 10:18 PM
I guarantee they would.

I do as well, you can tell Larry Brown really enjoys coaching Raymond. They seem to get along and Felton just gets it done. Even if he has an off shooting night, he still has a good game doing other things. Larry Brown loves guys that can drive to the basket. Raymond Felton is one of the best penetrators (him and Wallace) on the team. I don't see him going anywhere.

Chateamsfan
02-13-2009, 05:45 PM
Check out this trade proposal!
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=d3mtct

DerekRE_3
02-13-2009, 05:54 PM
Link didn't work so I fixed it. Is this just an idea you had?

ALong13
02-13-2009, 06:12 PM
I would love that trade, but it would never...ever...and I mean NEVER EVER happen...

But dreams are nice aren't they? And it sure put some people in the seats...but once again...we have a better chance of Sean May going a month without donuts, ice cream, and candy....it just impossible...

Chateamsfan
02-13-2009, 06:25 PM
Link didn't work so I fixed it. Is this just an idea you had?

Yes this is as a matter of fact. I think the Rockets would do this! Look I know he get's injured sometimes but hey he's good when he's in. Alexis Ajinca Would do a terrific job backing him up. The only reason He hardly every plays is because Emeka Okafor Plays the Center Position.
Here is what it would look like:
C: Yao Ming, Gana Diop, Alexis Ajinca
PF: Emeka Okafor, Boris Diaw,Vladimir Radmanovic, Juwan Howard
SF: Gerald Wallace, Boris Diaw,Vladimir Radmanovic
SG: Raja Bell, Cartier Martin
PG: D.J. Augustin, Sean Singletary
Then they should get Patrick Ewing Jr. and Steve Francis!:clap::p:cool:

DerekRE_3
02-13-2009, 06:46 PM
Yes this is as a matter of fact. I think the Rockets would do this! Look I know he get's injured sometimes but hey he's good when he's in. Alexis Ajinca Would do a terrific job backing him up. The only reason He hardly every plays is because Emeka Okafor Plays the Center Position.
Here is what it would look like:
C: Yao Ming, Gana Diop, Alexis Ajinca
PF: Emeka Okafor, Boris Diaw,Vladimir Radmanovic, Juwan Howard
SF: Gerald Wallace, Boris Diaw,Vladimir Radmanovic
SG: Raja Bell, Cartier Martin
PG: D.J. Augustin, Sean Singletary
Then they should get Patrick Ewing Jr. and Steve Francis!:clap::p:cool:

I think the Rockets have been looking to trade Artest and now T-Mac, but I don't think Ming is a guy they are willing to move. Not only is he one of the best Centers in the game, but they make so much money having him on the team. The entire country of China loves him.

bleedprple&gold
02-13-2009, 06:48 PM
Wow that is an awful awful trade for Houston. Unless you're planning to kidnap Yao and hold him for ransom until he is traded there is no way that would ever happen. You would need to at least throw in Okafor also and still Houston would hesitate to do it.

DerekRE_3
02-13-2009, 06:50 PM
Wow that is an awful awful trade for Houston. Unless you're planning to kidnap Yao and hold him for ransom until he is traded there is no way that would ever happen. You would need to at least throw in Okafor also and still Houston would hesitate to do it.

Pretty much yeah. But hey, it's always nice to hope. And ideas like this add to the discussion and keep things active.

bleedprple&gold
02-13-2009, 06:56 PM
The fact that Felton, May, and Mohammad are being talked about being traded for Tinsley and Foster should tell you what they're worth...

DerekRE_3
02-13-2009, 07:07 PM
The fact that Felton, May, and Mohammad are being talked about being traded for Tinsley and Foster should tell you what they're worth...

That rumor is:

1) Dead
2) Pacers proposed it to the Bobcats, and they said no.

homestarunner93
02-13-2009, 09:11 PM
Kind of dumb for the Rockets, and I don't even know if I'd want it. Yao is a walking injury, he's never healthy.

FreedomReigns
02-14-2009, 12:13 AM
I can see Houston's owner shooting Starbucks out his nose and then falling out of his chair laughing if that trade was propsed.

GunFactor187
02-14-2009, 12:31 AM
The Rockets made it clear that Yao is untouchable.

black1605
02-14-2009, 12:55 AM
just because salaries match doesn't make a trade even slightly realistic...i could package May, Muhammad, and a few scrubs and make a trade that would work for Lebron, but it isn't going to happen

like someone on this board has said before: "the best trade idea is the one you don't post"

furthermore, we don't need to make any more trades, we are as loaded as we could hope to be, it is just a matter of getting healthy and staying that way

we have a team that could really make some noise in the playoffs, leave well enough alone

michaelbt18
02-16-2009, 09:22 PM
NO! never get Yoa! He sucks. It doesnt matter how well he does when he plays cuz he will only last about 6.9 seconds before he breaks his leg.

elnino9
02-16-2009, 11:23 PM
hahahaha this will NEVER happen...

scaj12
02-17-2009, 02:10 AM
Ray-Ray is a keeper, especially with that explosive DJ coming off the bench. Lets trade Sean Mays fat A#@ to the D-League, I'm sure one of those guys will more productive. Someone told me they saw him at Cookout( a fast food joint, for those who don't live in NC) ordering two cheeseburgers. LOL. Really he is out of shape, and this is a running team that he can't keep up with. TRADE MAY FOR ANYTHING OR ANYBODY.

masalex1205
02-17-2009, 11:34 AM
Okay so no go on that last one...

what about Felton, May, Charlotte 1st rounder for Bayless, Fernandez, Frye?

I think it would be worth giving up the pick as we get our SG of the future in Rudy and a solid backup now w/ loads of potential in Bayless. Frye expires and he is a decent player, maybe the cats could resign him for cheap?


Also want to point out that Im not on the trade Felton bandwagon but im on the bandwagon that you trade ANYBODY if you get an offer that will make your team better and I think this one does.

scaj12
02-17-2009, 12:47 PM
Good idea, if there were a way to keep the 1st round pick still get rid of May. I would hate to let Ray go, but if it helps the Bobcats get better I will be fine with it.

Any opinions on the Vlad Rad/Morrison trade. I think Bobcats got the better player in the trade. Not that Morrison will hurt the Lakers, but he was a hope pick. They hoped his college game could transition to the NBA. Its sad that it didn't, because it ended up being a busted pick for us. For a new organization every pick is very important.

masalex1205
02-17-2009, 01:30 PM
from a strictly empirical standpoint it looks like Radmonavic(sp?) is a great fit. he fell out of grace with Coach Phil and he neeeded a change of scenery.

He's contract is a big negative and a somewhat long term commitment so from the Lakers standpoint it was a salary dump

win win for both teams: production wise bobcats wins w/o question; salary wise lakers win w/o question


morrison will always have to shoulder the burden of not living up to the no. 3 pick and the Bobcats front office will always have to think of what could have been if they had picked Roy or Gay instead of Morrison ( &*(#@#*$)#*!!)

i know this is stupid to think about but just for fun:

Felton/DJ/Singeltary
Roy/Bell
Crash/Martin
Diaw/Howard/Hamburgler aka May
OKafor/Diop/Ajincas

would be SICK

king4day
02-17-2009, 04:25 PM
i know this is stupid to think about but just for fun:

Felton/DJ/Singeltary
Roy/Bell
Crash/Martin
Diaw/Howard/Hamburgler aka May
OKafor/Diop/Ajincas

would be SICK

Things would be a lot different had they drafted Roy. I don't think they would be in the position they are in today. They wouldn't have DJ, that's for sure as they'd have drafted later last year.

But yea, that would be a HELL of a team right there. Certainly a contender in the east.

raptor fan
02-18-2009, 12:22 PM
would u guys do this deal?:

Gerald Wallace and Nazr Mohammed to the Blazers for Raef Lafrentz, Channing Frye + 2 second rounders

u guys get rid of mohammed's contract and get a lot of cap space in return.

DerekRE_3
02-18-2009, 12:32 PM
would u guys do this deal?:

Gerald Wallace and Nazr Mohammed to the Blazers for Raef Lafrentz, Channing Frye + 2 second rounders

u guys get rid of mohammed's contract and get a lot of cap space in return.

Trading your all around best player who is only 26 years old for expiring contracts just doesn't make a lot of sense.

JakeDelbreezy
02-18-2009, 01:34 PM
would u guys do this deal?:

Gerald Wallace and Nazr Mohammed to the Blazers for Raef Lafrentz, Channing Frye + 2 second rounders

u guys get rid of mohammed's contract and get a lot of cap space in return.

No thanks. The Bobcats have already made it known they're not going to move Wallace in salary dump move, a trade would have to make the team better now and in the future. A trade to the Blazers would have to involve one or more of their young guys like Batum, Fernandez, Bayless etc...and even then it's unlikely.

raptor fan
02-18-2009, 04:12 PM
No thanks. The Bobcats have already made it known they're not going to move Wallace in salary dump move, a trade would have to make the team better now and in the future. A trade to the Blazers would have to involve one or more of their young guys like Batum, Fernandez, Bayless etc...and even then it's unlikely.

yeah, i get what ur saying. with that in mind, what do u think about this deal?:

Raymond Felton + Nazr Mohammed to the Kings for John Salmons + Beno Udrih + Quincy Douby

In this deal, you get a SG/SF whose in his prime and a backup PG to Augustin and at the same time u get rid of mohammed. you get some nice talent back for a guy who might leave you at the end of the season. here's ur lineup after the deal:

PG: Augustin/Udrih/Singletary
SG: Salmons/Bell/Douby
SF: Wallace/Radmanovic/Martin
PF: Diaw/Howard/May
C: Okafor/Diop/Ajinca

Bell, Udrih and Radmanovic are excellent players to have come off ur bench

Most of these players are also locked up for a couple of years, so it allows team chemistry to build up

DerekRE_3
02-18-2009, 04:34 PM
yeah, i get what ur saying. with that in mind, what do u think about this deal?:

Raymond Felton + Nazr Mohammed to the Kings for John Salmons + Beno Udrih + Quincy Douby

In this deal, you get a SG/SF whose in his prime and a backup PG to Augustin and at the same time u get rid of mohammed. you get some nice talent back for a guy who might leave you at the end of the season. here's ur lineup after the deal:

PG: Augustin/Udrih/Singletary
SG: Salmons/Bell/Douby
SF: Wallace/Radmanovic/Martin
PF: Diaw/Howard/May
C: Okafor/Diop/Ajinca

Bell, Udrih and Radmanovic are excellent players to have come off ur bench

Most of these players are also locked up for a couple of years, so it allows team chemistry to build up

I follow two teams, the Kings and the Bobcats, while I would love for us to pick up John Salmons, who I think is one of the most underrated players in the NBA, it would not be worth Beno Udrih's horrible contract. He's not very good and his defense is terrible and would put him in Brown's doghouse right away. And Quincy Douby...is just worthless.

raptor fan
02-18-2009, 04:36 PM
I follow two teams, the Kings and the Bobcats, while I would love for us to pick up John Salmons, who I think is one of the most underrated players in the NBA, it would not be worth Beno Udrih's horrible contract. He's not very good and his defense is terrible and would put him in Brown's doghouse right away. And Quincy Douby...is just worthless.

udrih's contract is just 1 year longer than mohammed, and i think its a little cheaper too. isn't he a more effective player than mohammed? also, douby was just in the deal for salary purposes.

DerekRE_3
02-18-2009, 04:51 PM
udrih's contract is just 1 year longer than mohammed, and i think its a little cheaper too. isn't he a more effective player than mohammed? also, douby was just in the deal for salary purposes.

Yes, Udrih is more effective that Mohammed, but he has 2 more years left on his contract, he got a 5 year $32 million deal. Mohammed has 3 years left. Salmons is good, but only when he starts.

michaelbt18
02-18-2009, 05:04 PM
I think the most underrated player in the NBA is Kobe. No really appreciates his Godness...especially on this site. DRRRRRK!

trevhipp7
03-07-2009, 07:36 PM
Just an idea. Resign Felton to a $5mil per year contract. Trade him and Diaw to LA for Lamar Odom.
Draft Earl Clark
Charleotte gets a proven PF that can score from just about anywhere, and keeps their top ten pick. They are undersized at PG, PF, and C, but have a lot of talent.
LA gets a proven young PG, and a good fifth man on a good team.
CHA lineup
C: Okeafor
PF: Odom
SF: Clark
SG: Wallace
PG: Augistin
Key Bench players: Radmonivich, Bell, Ajinca, Diop

LA lineup:
C: Bynum
PF: Gasol
SF: Diaw
SG: Bryant
PG: Felton

homestarunner93
03-07-2009, 07:39 PM
Wow, that would be a horrible trade for Charlotte. Odom is less of a PF than Diaw. I'm not sure I would trade Diaw for Odom straight up. I probably wouldn't even do Felton for Odom straight up. Why would we trade two of our top 4 players for a guy who isn't even an All-NBA caliber player?

DerekRE_3
03-09-2009, 06:03 AM
Just an idea. Resign Felton to a $5mil per year contract. Trade him and Diaw to LA for Lamar Odom.
Draft Earl Clark
Charleotte gets a proven PF that can score from just about anywhere, and keeps their top ten pick. They are undersized at PG, PF, and C, but have a lot of talent.
LA gets a proven young PG, and a good fifth man on a good team.
CHA lineup
C: Okeafor
PF: Odom
SF: Clark
SG: Wallace
PG: Augistin
Key Bench players: Radmonivich, Bell, Ajinca, Diop

LA lineup:
C: Bynum
PF: Gasol
SF: Diaw
SG: Bryant
PG: Felton

I wouldn't trade Diaw for Odom straight up. He is way too valuable to us and makes everyone on the team better. Odom doesn't.

JakeDelbreezy
03-09-2009, 08:37 AM
Just an idea. Resign Felton to a $5mil per year contract. Trade him and Diaw to LA for Lamar Odom.
Draft Earl Clark
Charleotte gets a proven PF that can score from just about anywhere, and keeps their top ten pick. They are undersized at PG, PF, and C, but have a lot of talent.
LA gets a proven young PG, and a good fifth man on a good team.
CHA lineup
C: Okeafor
PF: Odom
SF: Clark
SG: Wallace
PG: Augistin
Key Bench players: Radmonivich, Bell, Ajinca, Diop

LA lineup:
C: Bynum
PF: Gasol
SF: Diaw
SG: Bryant
PG: Felton

Not a chance.

uncblue2332
03-16-2009, 03:06 PM
people dont realize how well diaw complements Oak, he plays great spaces the floor out and is a true point forward...very valuable in today's NBA. That being said I believe we need to draft a true SG in the draft we need to keep felton and dj mostly at point and move bell when the drafted SG is ready to take over as a starter. I say we go for a guy like Willie Warren or Gerald Henderson

IversonIsKrazy
03-17-2009, 05:55 PM
Re-sign Felton.
Diop + Vlad for Curry + Samb
Sign Desmond Mason.
Sign AI.
Larry Brown & AI re-uinion. Curry had his best 2 years w/ Larry Brown.

PG: DJ/Felton
SG: AI/Raja/Jefferson
SF: G-Force/D-Mase
PF: Okafor/Diaw/May
C: Curry/Nazr/Ajinca

Head Coach: Larry Brown

DerekRE_3
03-17-2009, 08:16 PM
Re-sign Felton.
Diop + Vlad for Curry + Samb
Sign Desmond Mason.
Sign AI.
Larry Brown & AI re-uinion. Curry had his best 2 years w/ Larry Brown.

PG: DJ/Felton
SG: AI/Raja/Jefferson
SF: G-Force/D-Mase
PF: Okafor/Diaw/May
C: Curry/Nazr/Ajinca

Head Coach: Larry Brown

Curry doesn't defend or rebound, two things that you have to do to play under Brown. AI would have to take the MLE to come to Charlotte, and I think Iverson would negatively affect everyone on the team. And Felton isn't going to back up DJ next year if he stays.

masalex1205
03-26-2009, 01:04 PM
How about a trade w/ memphis this offseason:

Okafor for Marc Gasol plus Memphis 2009 1st round pick

get rid of Okafor's big contract in the future and get a much tougher Gasol to compliment the finesse style of play of Diaw

thoughts?

JakeDelbreezy
03-27-2009, 08:02 AM
I doubt Memphis would give up Gasol and a 1st rounder for Okafor...

masalex1205
03-27-2009, 12:01 PM
maybe but regardless we need to explore all options w/ Okafor.

I know he's a good big man, we'll have to have a replacement, and know all about his excellent field goal percentage blah blah but he's salary is going to be a huge burden on the Bobcats when he starts to make the backloaded portions of it

especially w/ the economy how it is and therefore the salary cap/luxury tax going down

JakeDelbreezy
03-27-2009, 12:52 PM
His salary is going to be a hinderance for both us and for a trade partner. Now that LB has created a talent infusion in Charlotte I'm much more open to them dealing Okafor...

masalex1205
03-27-2009, 04:39 PM
yeah its not that i don't like Okafor: I do actually. It's just that he's got FIVE years left on his contract. I wouldn't be opposed to trading him for a high draft pick

KnicksorBust
04-22-2009, 07:36 PM
Lot of Knicks fans love Okafor. Is your GM looking to move him, or it's just you fans? Is there anything on our roster you'd be interested in?

DerekRE_3
04-24-2009, 02:49 AM
Trading Okafor would be a mistake. He's the anchor of our defense and I'm not sure how Okafor would fit in D'Antoni's system.

JakeDelbreezy
04-24-2009, 07:50 AM
Nobody on the Knicks look intriguing. LB pretty much challenged Okafor to get better over the summer. If he comes back with anything that resembles an offensive game then I'm all for keeping him long term. But if not then I would be willing to at least listen to offers...


http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/story/671614.html

masalex1205
04-24-2009, 11:56 AM
Trading Okafor would be a mistake. He's the anchor of our defense and I'm not sure how Okafor would fit in D'Antoni's system.


Okafor's salary is goes up from 9.5 next season to 10.5, 11.5, 12.5, 13.5, 14.5. Nearly 15 million a year for Emeka Okafor? hmmm

I think 9.5 is fair for OKafor but we are about to overpay him in the near future. With that being said I don't think that anybody is questioning whether the Bobcats need Okafor or not because they certainly do. We would be screwed in the middle w/o him so this leaves up in a tough situation.

I think we need to try to move him this summer while his contract is still low for a quality big. I suggested Marc Gasol earlier but that might be wishful thinking. Or we could package him w/ someone to try to get a star.

khanraymond
04-25-2009, 04:36 PM
you think Charlotte management is interested in anyone specific in the draft - 8-9th pick area....

Toronto fans would love to pry Raja Bell away from you guys with 9th pick + fillers.

uncblue2332
05-04-2009, 02:20 PM
you think Charlotte management is interested in anyone specific in the draft - 8-9th pick area....

Toronto fans would love to pry Raja Bell away from you guys with 9th pick + fillers.

The is nobody at 9 we can get that wont be at 12 if we trade up it will be in the top 6 or 7 picks b/c we need a SG in Derozan or Evans and I dont see them slipping that far plus raja is an expiring contract......our only SG right now and a great defensive presence in LB's system. Raptors fans need to stay out of our forum b/c your not getting Raja period!

king4day
05-06-2009, 05:54 PM
I don't know if this was brought up before, but if they can do it for the midlevel, what about signing Sheed to a short deal?
I know I said Diaw off the bench isn't a good idea, but why not bench Mek and have him come off the bench instead.
Or bench Diaw and let him lead a solid second unit.

king4day
05-06-2009, 06:04 PM
you think Charlotte management is interested in anyone specific in the draft - 8-9th pick area....

Toronto fans would love to pry Raja Bell away from you guys with 9th pick + fillers.

Brown loves Raja Bell. I don't see him getting dealt unless he got someone better or equal value in return. I believe he's one of the few (along with Diaw and Wallace) who are not going anywhere.
The 'Cats are done with draft picks right now. They are ready to make a run, and another first rounder will just hider their efforts.

Raps08-09 Champ
05-07-2009, 04:37 PM
Banks, Jawai, and Douby for Mohammed

masalex1205
05-08-2009, 12:01 PM
salary wise it looks like the bobcats win that trade but talent wise im not sure. DOn't really know too much about any of those players besides the fact that Miami would have thrown in a bj to get rid of Bank earlier this year.

Muhammed can still play but he's just a replication of Okafor and Diop's skills at this point. Also, this trade takes up three roster spots.

Also, I think Douby is expiring so that nixes this anyway?

pd7631
05-08-2009, 03:08 PM
whatsup Bobcats fans...

I think I have created the perfect blockbuster trade involving the Sixers, Bulls, Bobcats, and Suns...

I think it would work out for all teams involved....Charlotte would have to receive at least 2 First Round picks in this deal if they went through with this.

Sixers trade- Sammy D to Charlotte, Willie Green to Chicago, Reggie Evans to Phoenix, and 1st round pick to Charlotte

Bulls trade- Kirk Hinrich to Philadelphia, Tyrus Thomas to Phoenix, Linton Johnson to Charlotte, Demarcus Nelson to Philadelphia, and 1st round pick to Charlotte, and 2010 1st round pick to Phoenix(lottery protected)

Bobcats trade- Gerald Wallace to Phoenix, and Nazr Mohammed to Philadelphia

Suns trade- Amare Stoudemire to Chicago

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...tradeId=r4luug


thoughts......?

Chateamsfan
05-09-2009, 01:58 AM
I dont want Gerald Wallace to leave!

tMoNEy24
05-24-2009, 11:45 PM
Gerald Wallace 12th pick for Andres Nocioni Donte Greene And 23rd pick 2nd rd pick

Would you be intrested? Just wondering Dont be an *** and cuss me out. Basically anyone is available ex kmart jt hawes

29$JerZ
05-24-2009, 11:46 PM
Makes little sense to be honest. Bobcats want to make the playoffs and adding the 23rd pick and Greene is a step back.

Bobcats don't need another forward, they need a SG.

tMoNEy24
05-24-2009, 11:53 PM
What bout Noc Greene 4th for Wallace and 12tha

tMoNEy24
05-24-2009, 11:54 PM
Could use to draft harden

Chateamsfan
05-25-2009, 04:28 AM
Dont make trade with wallace unless it involves kobe or lebron

tMoNEy24
05-25-2009, 04:49 AM
^ Being a litttle unrealistic LOL

Litchris12
05-25-2009, 04:54 AM
bad trade...worst trage in history

NBA_Starter
05-25-2009, 08:01 PM
^ Being a litttle unrealistic LOL

Maybe a tad but Wallace is pretty much untouchable, he is the glue that holds our team together!

masalex1205
05-26-2009, 10:34 AM
thanks for coming by but no way

S-Dot
05-26-2009, 11:29 AM
It would be better to simply get gerald henderson if available or chase budinger, earl clark

JakeDelbreezy
05-26-2009, 11:48 AM
The Bobcats are finally becoming a decent team. Any trade involving them trading Wallace for draft picks, role players or players with "potential" isn't going to happen. The team is finally halfway decent and for the first time is creating some fan buzz. The team needs to win now to keep any fan interest it has garnered from last years step forward. Additionally the team is up for sale. Trading their marquee player isn't going to go over well with any potential buyers. IMO it's highly unlikely Gerald Wallace get's traded unless it's wildly in the Bobcats favor. None of the scenarios mentioned above end in the Bobcats favor.

black1605
05-26-2009, 03:16 PM
hell no

ClipperfanKevin
05-26-2009, 04:26 PM
I know around the trade deadline, a Clippers/Bobcats trade seemed eminent. Had Kaman not been injured, I think a Gerald Wallace for Chris Kaman deal would already be done. I hear that the Bobcats are looking to slide Okafor back to his natural PF spot, and I think Kaman would be a great fit at the center. Thoughts?

black1605
05-26-2009, 07:50 PM
i am 100% against trading Wallace

masalex1205
05-27-2009, 10:32 AM
Gerald Wallace 12th pick for Andres Nocioni Donte Greene And 23rd pick 2nd rd pick

Would you be intrested? Just wondering Dont be an *** and cuss me out. Basically anyone is available ex kmart jt hawes

haha so basically anyone is available except for your three most valuable players. In order for us to send you our best player/heart of the team you're going to have to do a little better than that.

masalex1205
05-27-2009, 11:03 AM
Charlotte should look at Josh Powell. He could be the more physical backup power forward that we need. I wanted to get him before the Lakers signed him. We could probably get him for cheap (Lakers have to sign Ariza) and he has some upside, just needs the minutes.

b_rad23
06-06-2009, 11:25 PM
Would Gerald Wallace and Raymond Felton for

Haslem, Wright, Cook, #60 and 2011 1st round pick be fair?

VCaintdead17
06-06-2009, 11:30 PM
nope

NBA_Starter
06-07-2009, 12:26 AM
Would Gerald Wallace and Raymond Felton for

Haslem, Wright, Cook, #60 and 2011 1st round pick be fair?

I do like Cook but won't no part of this deal!

dre1990
06-07-2009, 02:10 PM
I think a swap with LAC involving Boris and Kamen would be good for the bobcats
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine


PG - DJ Augustine or Raymond Felton or Allen Iverson?
SG - Raja Bell
SF - Gerald Wallace
PF - Emeka Okafor
C - Chris Kamen

That sounds like a 4th or 5th seed line up to me

DerekRE_3
06-07-2009, 02:40 PM
Would Gerald Wallace and Raymond Felton for

Haslem, Wright, Cook, #60 and 2011 1st round pick be fair?

Good god....

nolin
06-07-2009, 07:19 PM
Maybe a tad but Wallace is pretty much untouchable, he is the glue that holds our team together!

how does he hold the cats together? By keeping them out the playoffs every year. I think bobcats should trade wallace maybe for someone like kaman. kaman
okafor ( Natural position)
diaw
henderson
felton

playoff team right there.

DerekRE_3
06-08-2009, 03:39 AM
how does he hold the cats together? By keeping them out the playoffs every year. I think bobcats should trade wallace maybe for someone like kaman. kaman
okafor ( Natural position)
diaw
henderson
felton

playoff team right there.

It cracks me up when people say PF is Okafor's natural position. His post game and mid range game aren't polished enough to be a PF. Also, he isn't quick enough to guard guys like Bosh and Amare. It isn't Wallace that has kept the Bobcats out of the playoffs...it's been youth, lack of depth, bad coaching (Sam Vincent), etc. All the Bobcats need is to keep the current roster together and have a whole training camp with that roster under Larry Brown. As it stands now, they are a playoff caliber team.

uncblue2332
06-08-2009, 10:10 AM
yea I really think we should trade back in the draft and dump a contract like nazr in the deal if we can move back to 15-20 range we could get a scorer like wayne ellington, chase budinger, terrence williams, or nick calathes. We would get the scorer we need and free up cap space. We wouldnt have to sign iverson and have to play 3, six foot guards in iverson, felton, and augustine. I just hate the idea of iverson, he makes every team he is on worse at his age now. I would love to have a lineup of

PG: Raymond, DJ, Singletary
SG: Ellington/Budinger/Calathes, Raja
SF: G-Force, Cartier
PF: Boris, Vlad Rad,
C: Meka, Diop, Ajinca

masalex1205
06-08-2009, 10:32 AM
how does he hold the cats together? By keeping them out the playoffs every year. I think bobcats should trade wallace maybe for someone like kaman. kaman
okafor ( Natural position)
diaw
henderson
felton

playoff team right there.


yes it's gerald wallace that keeps us out of the playoffs every year

Kaman is our savior!

migrane9
06-08-2009, 01:19 PM
I watch every bobcats game and i have lots of experience watching the nba and sucessful teams... be patient one more year.... We HAVE THE RIGHT SQUAD... at the 3/4 mark of the season the bobcats were a feared team in the nba... we have all the pieces and an awsome starting lineup that can hang with the best of the best we just need a training camp and a defensive backup player (henderson, Green) out of the draft 2 come off the bench and play the 2 or 3 if injuries occur. As long as LB is the coach, DIAW IS THE STATER AT PF. why do u think we traded for him... he is LB type of player. may can become a role player dont give up on him just yet.( he must sign a low contract though.) We are looking at a 4 or 5 seed in the playoffs this year and will make it to round 2. i swear to it just wait and see.

Lizard King
06-09-2009, 02:38 AM
nope

What's your favorite team? I'm asking because I've seen you as a Celtics fan, Pacers fan, and now I see you here. Not trying to bait or anything.

jimbobjarree
06-09-2009, 09:37 AM
what you on about. derek has the common sense of a fly

JakeDelbreezy
06-09-2009, 09:41 AM
Would Gerald Wallace and Raymond Felton for

Haslem, Wright, Cook, #60 and 2011 1st round pick be fair?

Nope, Not even remotely fair.

DerekRE_3
06-09-2009, 02:20 PM
what you on about. derek has the common sense of a fly

I really can't argue with that statement.

Tarheel0122
06-11-2009, 10:51 PM
Resign Felton
Sign Rasheed Wallace
Sign Rashad McCants
Trade R. Bell, B. Diaw, D. Diop, N. Mohammed, & S. Singletary

Work Trade for Jerry Stackhouse

Draft Tyler Hansborough and Danny Green

Roster
C R.Wallace/Ajinca
PF Okafor/Hansborough
SF G.Wallace/J.Stackhouse
SG A. Iverson/R. McCants
PG R. Felton/DJ Augustin

D. Green
J.Howard
V. Radmanovic


This would take some work, but well worth the time!!!

DerekRE_3
06-11-2009, 10:53 PM
Resign Felton
Sign Rasheed Wallace
Sign Rashad McCants
Trade R. Bell, B. Diaw, D. Diop, N. Mohammed, & S. Singletary

Work Trade for Jerry Stackhouse

Draft Tyler Hansborough and Danny Green

Roster
C R.Wallace/Ajinca
PF Okafor/Hansborough
SF G.Wallace/J.Stackhouse
SG A. Iverson/R. McCants
PG R. Felton/DJ Augustin

D. Green
J.Howard
V. Radmanovic


This would take some work, but well worth the time!!!

We don't have the money to re-sign Felton, AND get Rasheed AND McCants. We are above the salary cap even before we re-sign Felton. We could only offer Sheed the MLE, and he said he'd rather retire than play for less than 8 mil a year (MLE is around 5.5 mil). Also trading Diaw would be a mistake. He makes everyone better.

Tarheel0122
06-11-2009, 10:58 PM
Thats why we would have to make the trades to dump the salary!!!

DerekRE_3
06-11-2009, 11:05 PM
Thats why we would have to make the trades to dump the salary!!!

Your kidding yourself if you think anyone is going take on Diop's or Mohammed's salary. There's just no way.

asmarks18
06-12-2009, 12:09 PM
How about Brandon Bass, and Jerry Stackhouse for Wallace? Stackhouse's contract has a 2M buyout in it and would save you 5 million dollars in salary cap space.

black1605
06-12-2009, 01:13 PM
How about Brandon Bass, and Jerry Stackhouse for Wallace? Stackhouse's contract has a 2M buyout in it and would save you 5 million dollars in salary cap space.

one of the worst trade ideas i have ever read

masalex1205
06-12-2009, 01:34 PM
We don't have the money to re-sign Felton, AND get Rasheed AND McCants. We are above the salary cap even before we re-sign Felton. We could only offer Sheed the MLE, and he said he'd rather retire than play for less than 8 mil a year (MLE is around 5.5 mil). Also trading Diaw would be a mistake. He makes everyone better.


Im going to call his bluff on that one. I think he's going to go play for someone like Cleveland for about the MLE. No way he actually thinks he's going to 8 mill a year after he sucked it up last year.

DenButsu
06-12-2009, 07:16 PM
Scary news if you're a Bobcats fan. The team might not even be able to afford a summer league team this year (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/bobcats/story/775946.html), which kind of strikes me as odd.

I know the economy isn't at its best, I know the Bobcats have a payroll that probably goes beyond the realm of the fiscally sound (http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/bobcats.jsp), and I understand that the team isn't exactly raking in the profits from attendance or local TV/radio, and I understand that summer league runs cost quite a bit of money, often for a payoff that isn't so profound.

But I can't help but wonder, given owner Robert Johnson's NBA na´vetÚ heading into his venture as owner of this pathetic team, if this is more of a choice than an end-result. And wonder if there haven't been teams in tougher financial straights that still managed to make a summer league turn happen. That's just me, though.Ball Don't Lie (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Off-day-notes-Bobcats-broke-Zo-and-Whitlock-g?urn=nba,169929)

29$JerZ
06-12-2009, 07:19 PM
Wow

We have a bunch of highly paid players so we are already financially tied to a bunch of players.

Never heard of a team being too poor to afford a summer league run. This might mean the Franchise could move.

DenButsu
06-12-2009, 07:19 PM
btw, sorry Bobcats fans - the "pathetic team" remark is the blogger's, not mine, and I included it just because it's contained in his main question about the financial viability of the franchise, not because I'm trying to piss off Bobcats fans.

This is a story that actually worries me, and it should concern fans of other teams as well imho.

asmarks18
06-12-2009, 11:13 PM
one of the worst trade ideas i have ever read

I thought I would throw it out there. What I have heard in the media is how the cats are dirt broke so I thought I'd see if that could be a possibility. It's a bad trade but it's not horrendous... Bass is actually a very solid PF.

nick bush
06-13-2009, 11:08 AM
Emeka Okafor
D.J. Augustin
first round draft pick

for

Al Jefferson
and a 2 round pick

nick bush
06-13-2009, 11:15 AM
Al Jefferson is a very underrated player that will and I think is already better than Dwight Howard.

29$JerZ
06-13-2009, 11:17 AM
Why does Minny do this?

They need a PG and C to surround AL with, not trade him.

uncblue2332
06-13-2009, 02:04 PM
Al is a franchise player and wont be traded. We would have to give up at least

DJ Augustin
G-Force
Ajinca
2- 1st round picks 2009, 2010
1-2nd round draft pick 2009
and cash for them to even consider listening

thesparky33
06-13-2009, 02:44 PM
Yeah, we wont trade Al Jefferson.

However, I'm very interested in Raymond Felton in a Wolves uni... how much interest does Charlotte have in keeping him, especially with Augustin?

Pran Raznor
06-13-2009, 03:44 PM
Al Jefferson is a very underrated player that will and I think is already better than Dwight Howard.

:pity:

brandonwarne52
06-13-2009, 06:17 PM
T-Wolves already have 3 firsts. No thanks.

NBA_Starter
06-13-2009, 07:50 PM
Yeah, we wont trade Al Jefferson.

However, I'm very interested in Raymond Felton in a Wolves uni... how much interest does Charlotte have in keeping him, especially with Augustin?

All reports are the he wants to stay and I know we want to re-sign him.

I would love to have Big Al on our team but I don't want to trade Wallace.

NBA_Starter
06-13-2009, 08:01 PM
Yes we have issues, the team is up for sale, if the Bobcats would strike a deal with Charter to draw in more fans from all over South Carolina that would be a good start, I have my fingers crossed.

6deep
06-14-2009, 10:28 AM
Charlotte Gets : Jared Jeffries, #2 (memphis), #8 (ny), & #27 (memphis)

New York Gets: Darko , #12 (charlotte)

Memphis Gets: Okafor

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...tradeId=kuvvr7

DenButsu
06-14-2009, 11:17 AM
Why was the thread that I posted merged into this one? It wasn't about trade rumors or ideas, it was a completely different topic.

ctitus45
06-14-2009, 02:43 PM
first of all...how long did it take everyone to realize that morrison plays on the west coast now? Ladies and Gentleman...YOUR CHARLOTTE BOBCAT FAITHFUL!!!!!

second of all...well, there won't be any money in Charlotte here soon. I would be trying to stockpile draft picks instead of trying to trade for a big contract or sign a superstar. Get some guys who wanna play their ***** off for a contract...Larry Brown is a hell of a coach. He can develop a solid team...especially in the East. Put your franchise money in scouting!

IversonIsKrazy
06-14-2009, 03:52 PM
Bobcats are going broke, Emeka's got a hugeee contract... so.

Bobcats Get:
Tyrus Thomas (2010 Expiring)
Tim Thomas (2010 Expiring)
2010 First Round Pick

Bulls Get:
Emeka Okafor

DerekRE_3
06-14-2009, 04:07 PM
Why was the thread that I posted merged into this one? It wasn't about trade rumors or ideas, it was a completely different topic.

Oops...meant to merge another thread that was about a trade idea.

black1605
06-14-2009, 05:18 PM
Charlotte Gets : Jared Jeffries, #2 (memphis), #8 (ny), & #27 (memphis)

New York Gets: Darko , #12 (charlotte)

Memphis Gets: Okafor

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...tradeId=kuvvr7

this would be awesome for charlotte, albeit entirely ridiculous

6deep
06-14-2009, 05:23 PM
this would be awesome for charlotte, albeit entirely ridiculous

Would this be simpler?

Charlotte gets Picks #2 & #27 Darko

Memphis gets Okafer & #12

black1605
06-14-2009, 05:58 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ksavbe

Okafor, Mohammad, and the 12

for

Darko, Jarich, and the 2

salaries work, but i dont love it

uncblue2332
06-14-2009, 06:18 PM
we dont need the number 2 pick. We really dont need anything higher than 5 or 6 so we can get DeRozan/Evans or we trade back and package Mohammad in the trade back to get the 19 or 20th pick and get a Terrance Williams/Nick Calathes/Wayne Ellington/Chase Budinger type player or Gerald Henderson may still even be there

black1605
06-14-2009, 06:21 PM
i cant see Henderson making it out of the Lottery, i would be happy to stay pat draft wise and pick him up at 12

DenButsu
06-14-2009, 08:28 PM
Oops...meant to merge another thread that was about a trade idea.

np - I wasn't worried about it, just didn't understand the reasoning. :cool:

DerekRE_3
06-14-2009, 09:20 PM
np - I wasn't worried about it, just didn't understand the reasoning. :cool:

Haha yeah, there was no legit reason...just me being ********.

DenButsu
06-14-2009, 09:22 PM
Haha yeah, there was no legit reason...just me being ********.

Typical.














:p

masalex1205
06-15-2009, 11:01 AM
i cant see Henderson making it out of the Lottery, i would be happy to stay pat draft wise and pick him up at 12

agreed, I think Henderson would fit our system perfectly, intelligent, athletic, and a great defender

whitechocolate
06-21-2009, 12:23 AM
What would it take from the grizzlies to get okafor? Does it have to involve the number 2 pick?

Chateamsfan
06-21-2009, 12:25 AM
What would it take from the grizzlies to get okafor? Does it have to involve the number 2 pick?

We not sending Okafor to Memphis!

whitechocolate
06-21-2009, 12:31 AM
We not sending Okafor to Memphis!

Pretty Please!?

Chateamsfan
06-21-2009, 01:13 AM
Pretty Please!?

What would you give us?

whitechocolate
06-21-2009, 01:37 AM
What would you give us?

Please don't laugh at me but...

#27/ Darrell Arthur ( or #36)/Darko (expiring)

Seems like a pretty long shot, but word is he may come pretty cheap. Get some youth and financial help.

DerekRE_3
06-21-2009, 01:51 AM
Please don't laugh at me but...

#27/ Darrell Arthur ( or #36)/Darko (expiring)

Seems like a pretty long shot, but word is he may come pretty cheap. Get some youth and financial help.

Yeah that's not gonna happen. He's the anchor of our defense.

whitechocolate
06-21-2009, 01:54 AM
Yeah that's not gonna happen. He's the anchor of our defense.

Didn't think so. Is there any possible deal?

Chateamsfan
06-21-2009, 02:11 AM
Didn't think so. Is there any possible deal?

Untouchables are Emeka Okafor and Gerald Wallace.

countrycasanova
07-08-2009, 01:08 AM
Knicks: D.J. Augustin/raja bell/draft pick

Bobcats: D-LEE/Jared Jeffries

Bobcats Line-up;
Okafor
D-LEE
Wallace
Henderson
Felton
Can yall say serious playoff contender

homestarunner93
07-08-2009, 01:19 AM
Knicks: D.J. Augustin/raja bell/draft pick

Bobcats: D-LEE/Jared Jeffries

Bobcats Line-up;
Okafor
D-LEE
Wallace
Henderson
Felton
Can yall say serious playoff contender

Can you say horrible trade?

Reedball
07-08-2009, 08:52 AM
Knicks: D.J. Augustin/raja bell/draft pick

Bobcats: D-LEE/Jared Jeffries

Bobcats Line-up;
Okafor
D-LEE
Wallace
Henderson
Felton
Can yall say serious playoff contender
If the game was one quarter long not too bad. Unfortunately for pro sports they go longer than that. ARE YOU NUTS WITH THAT OFFER??? Sure how about we throw in our only other two bench players than too with Diaw and Diop. I mean we dont need guard depth so you might as well have them too right? Dude that may work on EA Sports games, but get real.

Randomsportsfan
07-09-2009, 10:44 AM
Gerald Wallace is going to the cavs end of story.

Bobcats get:

JJ Hickson
Wally

Cavs get:

Gerald Wallace

Chateamsfan
07-09-2009, 12:09 PM
Gerald Wallace is going to the cavs end of story.

Bobcats get:

JJ Hickson
Wally

Cavs get:

Gerald Wallace

In your dreams!:mad::D

Lo Porto
07-09-2009, 04:20 PM
Gerald Wallace is going to the cavs end of story.

Bobcats get:

JJ Hickson
Wally

Cavs get:

Gerald Wallace

That won't happen. If it does, Charlotte better be getting 4 1st round picks and cash.

Why doesn't Charlotte pursue Boozer? I'm sure the Jazz wouldn't mind getting Raja back and taking over Wallace's contract. Would Bobcat fans take this trade:

Raja Bell, Wallace, and D Jefferson (needed throw in) for Boozer and Harpring (probably retiring)

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mo8mz3

Bobcats are trying to sell the team and big/long contracts aren't attractive to new owners. Plus, Boozer would help sell tickets for this year. With an open SG spot, the Bobcats could go get Iverson and sell even more tickets. For the Jazz, they get over $3 million in cap relief and get two players that help out right away.

Chateamsfan
07-10-2009, 04:07 AM
Trade Idea

Wizards get C Nazr Mohammed, SG Raja Bell, PG Raymond Felton, 1st Rd. pick 2010
Bobcats get PF Antwan Jamison,SG Nick Young, 1st Rd. Pick 2010

JakeDelbreezy
07-10-2009, 07:56 AM
Why doesn't Charlotte pursue Boozer? I'm sure the Jazz wouldn't mind getting Raja back and taking over Wallace's contract. Would Bobcat fans take this trade:

Raja Bell, Wallace, and D Jefferson (needed throw in) for Boozer and Harpring (probably retiring)

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mo8mz3

Bobcats are trying to sell the team and big/long contracts aren't attractive to new owners. Plus, Boozer would help sell tickets for this year. With an open SG spot, the Bobcats could go get Iverson and sell even more tickets. For the Jazz, they get over $3 million in cap relief and get two players that help out right away.

As a Charlotte fan I'd definitely pass on this trade. Gerald Wallace is probably the most valuable player for Charlotte, and arguably the fan favorite. I doubt trading him for Boozer is going to sale any tickets....Boozer doesn't seem like the kind of guy who sales tickets anyway. What sales tickets is playoff caliber basketball teams, and if the Bobcats dumped Crash, Bell and Jefferson (3 guys in the rotation including 2 starters) for one guy who's going to bolt after the season then they certainly wouldn't be playoff caliber. I wouldn't trade Wallace for Boozer straight up, not b/c I think Boozer sucks, I just don't think he helps the Bobcats. And please read the other threads on AI in the Bobcats Forum...it's a mixed bag on him...

JakeDelbreezy
07-10-2009, 08:00 AM
Trade Idea

Wizards get C Nazr Mohammed, SG Raja Bell, PG Raymond Felton, 1st Rd. pick 2010
Bobcats get PF Antwan Jamison,SG Nick Young, 1st Rd. Pick 2010

The Wizards already have Arenas, Foye, Miller and Stevenson in the backcourt so that's a logjam at PG/SG for them....and we already have Diaw and Crash in the SF/PF starting rotation and Diaw would suffer from the bench if he were moved there...plus we'd be incredibly thin at SG. Plus if we make the playoffs our 1st rounder is going to Minny via Denver, so that means we'd be trading yet another future 1st rounder...I don't really know if that trade would work out...

countrycasanova
07-12-2009, 07:05 PM
Bobcats: D-LEE/Duhon (both Brown type of players)
Knicks: Felton/Raja or Felton/Draft pick or Felton/Raja/draft pick

Bottom line, yall need a PF. I know he didn't play for the Tarheels, but D-lee gets in done on the boards and transition. Duhon is a Larry Brown type point and he is an expiring contract.

Okafor
D-Lee
G-Force (Roll Tide!!)
Henderson
Duhon/D.J.

Solid squad. Both teams get what they need, getting D-LEE only makes yall frontcourt better and deeper.

Chateamsfan
07-12-2009, 07:17 PM
Bobcats: D-LEE/Duhon (both Brown type of players)
Knicks: Felton/Raja or Felton/Draft pick or Felton/Raja/draft pick

Bottom line, yall need a PF. I know he didn't play for the Tarheels, but D-lee gets in done on the boards and transition. Duhon is a Larry Brown type point and he is an expiring contract.

Okafor
D-Lee
G-Force (Roll Tide!!)
Henderson
Duhon/D.J.

Solid squad. Both teams get what they need, getting D-LEE only makes yall frontcourt better and deeper.

I hate it we dont need a PF we need a true center. This is why knicks are the knicks. Were not trading with yall because you dont have a true starting center so hell no! Lee is the same type of player as Okafor ya ******.

countrycasanova
07-12-2009, 08:18 PM
I hate it we dont need a PF we need a true center. This is why knicks are the knicks. Were not trading with yall because you dont have a true starting center so hell no! Lee is the same type of player as Okafor ya ******.

What are you talking about, bless yo heart. :) You aint worth coming back with a sensible retort. :rolleyes: P.S. Does it get lonely on this forum?

JakeDelbreezy
07-13-2009, 07:55 AM
Bobcats: D-LEE/Duhon (both Brown type of players)
Knicks: Felton/Raja or Felton/Draft pick or Felton/Raja/draft pick

Bottom line, yall need a PF. I know he didn't play for the Tarheels, but D-lee gets in done on the boards and transition. Duhon is a Larry Brown type point and he is an expiring contract.

Okafor
D-Lee
G-Force (Roll Tide!!)
Henderson
Duhon/D.J.

Solid squad. Both teams get what they need, getting D-LEE only makes yall frontcourt better and deeper.

No thanks. It doesn't seem to favor the Bobcats to trade our starting PG and starting SG (and definitely not a draft pick on top of that) for a backup PG and a guy who does similar things to Okafor (and who wants a big contract).

masalex1205
07-13-2009, 11:24 AM
Bobcats: D-LEE/Duhon (both Brown type of players)
Knicks: Felton/Raja or Felton/Draft pick or Felton/Raja/draft pick

Bottom line, yall need a PF. I know he didn't play for the Tarheels, but D-lee gets in done on the boards and transition. Duhon is a Larry Brown type point and he is an expiring contract.

Okafor
D-Lee
G-Force (Roll Tide!!)
Henderson
Duhon/D.J.

Solid squad. Both teams get what they need, getting D-LEE only makes yall frontcourt better and deeper.

Bottom line is we don't need a power forward. We have Boris Diaw.

Lever2g
07-13-2009, 01:15 PM
I'd like to see us trade for stoudimere. We could get him for a couple of role players. ex felton and diaw

JDM
07-13-2009, 02:29 PM
Hey, new to the site. IMO we shouldn't do anything. If we do sign someone maybe a back PF or C. If we do make a trade though we should trade players that are expendable like Felton or DJ, Raja, Nazr. So we can take one or two of those people and trade then for a true Center, then I would be willing to go along with it. I believe we have a playoff team without making any changes because hopefully having the same team has the one we finished with last year should bring good chemistry. IMO you can never underestimate a teams chemistry.

JakeDelbreezy
07-13-2009, 05:03 PM
Hey, new to the site. IMO we shouldn't do anything. If we do sign someone maybe a back PF or C. If we do make a trade though we should trade players that are expendable like Felton or DJ, Raja, Nazr. So we can take one or two of those people and trade then for a true Center, then I would be willing to go along with it. I believe we have a playoff team without making any changes because hopefully having the same team has the one we finished with last year should bring good chemistry. IMO you can never underestimate a teams chemistry.

Welcome to the Bobcats Forum....

Mr.Nate30
07-14-2009, 06:17 PM
how bout this trade involing spurs and cha main player diaw
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

DerekRE_3
07-14-2009, 06:47 PM
how bout this trade involing spurs and cha main player diaw
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Trade doesn't show up.

Mr.Nate30
07-14-2009, 07:01 PM
Trade doesn't show up.

oops my bad ill just tell u it diaw for bonner ,mahmi ,finley,willams

DerekRE_3
07-14-2009, 08:01 PM
Ah so Diaw for trash got it.

catsandheels
07-14-2009, 09:33 PM
im new here but ive been comin through here alot i am a huge bobcats fan.

i think they should go after iverson and maybe we could trade raja to get a backup 4 or 5 like boozer or amare.

Chateamsfan
07-14-2009, 11:21 PM
im new here but ive been comin through here alot i am a huge bobcats fan.

i think they should go after iverson and maybe we could trade raja to get a backup 4 or 5 like boozer or amare.

Welcome fellow Bobcats and Heels fan to the Forum! I like your thinking and high hopes. Amare will stay with the suns. I got bad feeling that Boozer will go to the Bulls. I still think Bell, Radmanovic, and Mohammed to the Sixers for Dalembert and Williams is a great deal. Works for both teams. If we got Iverson which is possible,also we should sign Brevin Knight IMOfor a third point, here would be the depth chart:

C: Samuel Dalembert, Gana Diop, Alexis Ajinca
PF: Emeka Okafor, Boris Diaw, Derrick Brown
SF: Gerald Wallace, Derrick Brown
SG: Allen Iverson, Gerald Henderson, Louis Williams
PG: Raymond Felton, D.J. Augustin, Brevin Knight

JakeDelbreezy
07-15-2009, 08:02 AM
As most in the Bobcats Forum know, I'm totally against AI coming to Charlotte.

What does he provide?
Veteran Leadership? No
Defense? No
Willingness to do whats best for the team? No
Makes those around him better? No

AI needs the ball to do anything which means Felton, Diaw and Augustin all become lessor players. If we replaced Bell with AI, then we lose tons on defense and not to mention Bell is a 41% 3pt shooter while AI is a 31% 3 point shooter. It appears AI is going to LAC, Memphis or Miami, so I'm thinking we won't even have to worry about him coming to Charlotte..

JakeDelbreezy
07-15-2009, 08:04 AM
oops my bad ill just tell u it diaw for bonner ,mahmi ,finley,willams

Sure and if you throw in Malik Hairston will give you Felton and Wallace too...

DerekRE_3
07-15-2009, 12:31 PM
That makes me want to go in the Spurs forum and offer Diop and Mohammed for Tony Parker.

Robbw241
07-15-2009, 12:48 PM
Do it Derek!

Blaze
07-15-2009, 05:28 PM
Would you guys do this trade?

Detroit receives:
Okafor, Bell

Charlotte receives:
Hamilton, Chandler

New Orleans receives:
Kwame Brown

JDM
07-15-2009, 05:55 PM
Would you guys do this trade?

Detroit receives:
Okafor, Bell

Charlotte receives:
Hamilton, Chandler

New Orleans receives:
Kwame Brown
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I would do it, but i don't know how the numbers match up

Robbw241
07-15-2009, 08:02 PM
Why would New Orleans do that though?

Mr.Nate30
07-15-2009, 10:37 PM
make up 1 thats reasonale and i tell u what i think

Mr.Nate30
07-15-2009, 10:59 PM
new 1

cha gets: tyson chandler finley mahmi

spurs get: boris diaw

no gets: diop bonner bell willams

DerekRE_3
07-15-2009, 11:23 PM
new 1

cha gets: tyson chandler finley mahmi

spurs get: boris diaw

no gets: diop bonner bell willams

So we give up two starters and a role player for a guy who has major injury concerns and trash...hmm....that's really tempting.

Mr.Nate30
07-15-2009, 11:30 PM
So we give up two starters and a role player for a guy who has major injury concerns and trash...hmm....that's really tempting.

ok chandler healthy finley role player mahmi prospect plus ur going to get a starting sg in fa i have a feeling

DerekRE_3
07-16-2009, 12:10 AM
ok chandler healthy finley role player mahmi prospect plus ur going to get a starting sg in fa i have a feeling

We don't have any money to spend on a SG in free agency, that's why we drafted Gerald Henderson. We are already over the cap, have to re-sign Raymond Felton, and want to get a backup PF in free agency. And I'm doubtful that Chandler will be 100% and I'm not sure how well he'd do without Chris Paul.

Mr.Nate30
07-16-2009, 12:23 AM
fine then u make up a trade

DerekRE_3
07-16-2009, 12:39 AM
fine then u make up a trade

I don't really want to...I'm not the GM of the Bobcats and don't have any pull with the organization unfortunately. I really don't see us trading Diaw...he makes the offense tick and makes everyone better.

DenButsu
07-16-2009, 03:01 AM
I don't really want to.

Spoilsport









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DerekRE_3
07-16-2009, 03:38 AM
Spoilsport









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Den I think you can identify with the fact that the Spurs just don't have any pieces at all that would be worth trading for. All they have is garbage. :smoking:

DenButsu
07-16-2009, 04:09 AM
If only it were true. I'm pissed every offseason at how easily they land good pieces.

And Finley has at least 2-3 more good years left in him.

DerekRE_3
07-16-2009, 04:28 AM
If only it were true. I'm pissed every offseason at how easily they land good pieces.

And Finley has at least 2-3 more good years left in him.

Yeah but even then Raja Bell is younger, and better, especially on defense.

JakeDelbreezy
07-16-2009, 08:03 AM
fine then u make up a trade

The only pieces of trade value the Spurs have are guys they're not going to trade. The Bobcat's don't need anymore prospects, they team is already young (Raja Bell is the only guy on the whole team over 28), they can't take on any salary as they're getting close to luxury tax territory and they're priming for their first real run to the playoffs. At this stage of their careers Diaw is better than Chandler, Bell is better than Finley and Diop is better than Mahinmi. The Bobcats don't get any better by acquiring any of those guys.

Both of the trade rumors you've brought up involve the Spurs giving away bench players to acquire starters from other teams, You can't think it's reasonable for your team to give up squadoosh and get starters from playoff hopeful teams in return. Maybe a team trying to shed salary will make a salary dump trade like Milwaukee did, but Charlotte is trying to make the playoffs..

Blaze
07-16-2009, 11:22 AM
Why would New Orleans do that though?

Because they need to cut payroll and this trade would give them somewhere between 7-8million in relief and probably another 6-7million over the long run. Last season NO was willing to trade Chandler for two unproductive expiring contracts. If Brown gets the same minutes as Chandler, he would average slightly less rpg and ppg.

Blaze
07-16-2009, 11:35 AM
I would do it, but i don't know how the numbers match up

My bad. I forgot to include you guys swapping Radmanovic for Travis Outlaw.

This would give you a younger and less expensive bench player and would give the trailblazers the veteran SF they have been seeking.

Lo Porto
07-20-2009, 12:08 PM
Would the Bobcats be willing to jump in the Boozer trade with Miami as the 3rd team? We all know Gerald Wallace has value, but potential new owners usually don't like long term contracts to non-All Stars. Trading his contract for expirings would seem to make them very happy. As fans, would you consider this deal:

Heat get Boozer
Jazz get Gerald and Raja Bell
Bobcats get Haslem, Kyle Korver, James Jones, Miami's 2010 first round pick and cash from Miami

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lg6xpl

Miami gets their guy and Jazz take on Gerald's contract and pick up Bell. Bobcats get a Larry Brown type big man who will hustle and play D. Bobcats also get two great shooters, a 1st round pick and cash. All contracts are expiring too. Bell leaving would open the door for a one year AI contract. AI could start and would sell a ton of tickets. New roster:

PG Felton, Augustin
SG Iverson, Henderson
SF Korver, Radman, Jones
PF Diaw, Haslem
C Okafor, Diaw, Nazr

masalex1205
07-20-2009, 01:49 PM
No way, Gerald/Bell are the leaders of this team, no way they get traded.

WntAbCEO
07-20-2009, 09:59 PM
Hey, just wondering are you guys open to moving Okafor? i hear your in need of a SG and back up PF

masalex1205
07-21-2009, 10:55 AM
^Nobody on this team is untouchable...for the right price?

What did you have in mind?

WntAbCEO
07-21-2009, 05:00 PM
This is assuming that the Pacers get Tony Allen from the Celtics in the S&T.

Foster (a good veteran player with excelent rebounding skills), Allen (a high energy backup SG) and the Pacers 1st round pick for Okafor

if you think its a crappy trade thats fine, but what would it take to get him on the pacers?

masalex1205
07-22-2009, 11:51 AM
This is assuming that the Pacers get Tony Allen from the Celtics in the S&T.

Foster (a good veteran player with excelent rebounding skills), Allen (a high energy backup SG) and the Pacers 1st round pick for Okafor

if you think its a crappy trade thats fine, but what would it take to get him on the pacers?

It's certainly going to take a lot more than a couple backups and mid first round pick to get Okafor.

To be honest, there isn't much on the Pacers that interests me outside of Granger.

JakeDelbreezy
07-22-2009, 12:37 PM
This is assuming that the Pacers get Tony Allen from the Celtics in the S&T.

Foster (a good veteran player with excelent rebounding skills), Allen (a high energy backup SG) and the Pacers 1st round pick for Okafor

if you think its a crappy trade thats fine, but what would it take to get him on the pacers?

That's definitely not enough to get it done. You're basically asking us to give up our double double average guy Okafor for two backups.

So basically I agree with Masalex's post above.

masalex1205
07-22-2009, 01:49 PM
I'd like to add that Okafor is an above average CENTER in this league. Centers are probably the hardest position to find. If you want Okafor you'd have to give up Granger. Obviously we'd have to additional assets. I would do Okafor, Wallace, 1st rdr. for Granger/Foster. I know Indiana would never do this but I would like to get to the point that I am trying to make: Okafor is only going to be moved in a package to bring back a star player to Charlotte.

WntAbCEO
07-22-2009, 03:57 PM
yeah thats true, I think its just one of those things where each player is valued more by their team. Okafor sure has been a guy I really liked. I've been really dissapointed/suprised that your Bobcats haven't been doing to hot, Felton,Wallace,Okafor isn't a Bad 3, I sure hope you guys get the wheels rolling

masalex1205
07-23-2009, 10:40 AM
Yeah, I think it's all going to come together and we'll make the playoffs though. Thanks for coming by.

KnicksorBust
07-30-2009, 07:31 PM
just for kicks would you guys do David Lee for Felton in a S&T?

Chateamsfan
07-30-2009, 07:36 PM
just for kicks would you guys do David Lee for Felton in a S&T?

Nazr Mohammed and Raymond Felton for David Lee and Chris Duhon?

countrycasanova
07-30-2009, 09:19 PM
Could a couple of diehard Bobcats fans, tell me how good of a point guard Felton really is?