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RustShack
10-15-2008, 05:15 PM
October 15, 2008 - Bob Gretz |

From the Truman Sports Complex
Tony Gonzalez was back in familiar surroundings on Wednesday, practicing with the Chiefs in their indoor facility and then holding court for the media horde after practice.

Gonzalez spoke to his teammates at their morning meeting, with no coaches in the room at his request.

ďI told them the situation, how it occurred what my thought process was behind everything, why I wanted to go and how I thought maybe it could help the team,Ē Gonzalez said of what he told his teammates. ďBut now itís over. So, itís done with. Iím a Chief now for these next 11 games. Iím concentrating on going out there and trying to be the best player that I can be and help this team win.
ďI wanted to make sure; I think most of them know me, the guys that have been around for awhile know what Iím all about. But I wanted to make sure those young guys know that this is about winning football games, about being the best football player you can be. No matter what the situation is, whether you are frustrated or you are extremely happy, you have to go out there and bust your tail every day and try to get better and help this team win.Ē

He also had plenty to say on various subjects:

-On what the day was like on Tuesday waiting for a trade to be made: ďIt was a high stress situation. It was a sad situation. It was confusing Ö it was pretty stressful for myself and my family. I felt this was it. What was told to me, a deal was going to get struck if a team was willing to give up what I thought was necessary for me to get out of here. When it came and when I was somewhat shocked that it didnít go down.Ē

-On the status of his relationship now with Carl Peterson: ďWho knows. Iím disappointed. In the end it doesnít matter what our relationship is any more. Iím a Chief and Iím here and Iím here to play.Ē

-On what was offered for him and whether it sounded like a reasonable deal: ďFrom what I understood, a third round was offered and it didnít go down that way. If you are going to trade me, thatís what you can expect to get. You are not going to get anything higher. Iím 32 years old. A second-round pick you are not going to get that. Everybody knows that Ö if they were serious about trading me, I think they would have taken that third-round pick. But thatís just my opinion.Ē

-On whether the Chiefs were serious about trading him: ďA part of me thinks maybe they were just trying to appease me. I donít know if they were serious. In the end, the way it all went down from what I understand, it didnít sound like it Ö if they werenít serious from the beginning, I wish they would have told me that, because in that case none of this would have even gone down. Just sit there and tell me itís not going to happen this year.Ē

-Did he request a trade before the season: ďNo Ö I wanted to see how it worked out. Obviously Brodie (Croyle) going down, I think that hurt us definitely. Weíve been snakebit this year too. At that point (before the season) I didnít see the need too.Ē

-On what it says about the Chiefs that he wanted out: ďIím not saying anything bad about these guys. I think this team is going in the right direction, I really feel that way. Theyíve got some great young talent on this team and they are rebuilding, thereís no doubt about that. These g uys are going to be good in thef uture and we can be good this year, but it takes guys about three years to really get in that groove. Thatís how long it took me, so knowing that and knowing Iím not going to be around here in three years Ö thatís the reason I said if it can help the Chiefs with them going out there and getting a pretty good draft choice for me, and it would help me going out there and playing for a contender this year, that was the whole reason behind it. Itís not that I donít believe in Herm, or I donít believe in Carl. Theyíve done a good job in my opinion. Itís getting down to the end of the road for me and I had to take that shot.Ē

-On the ceremony planned to honor him before this Sundayís game: ďThatís probably something I would like to wait until the end of the year. Itís up to them Ö I think it would be akward in light of what went down this week. Letís just wait on it. Weíll see what they want to do.Ē

-Will he ask to be traded again after this season is over: ďWeíll see. I canít answer that question honestly.Ē

RustShack
10-15-2008, 05:52 PM
KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP)—Tony Gonzalez held a players-only meeting with his teammates Wednesday to assure them he’s not bitter the Kansas City Chiefs failed to trade him to a contender.

The nine-time Pro Bowler admitted, however, he first felt “betrayed” that the Chiefs had not made a deal before the NFL trade deadline Tuesday.

“Initially, yes,” he said. “I thought, `I can’t believe this. It’s a lie.’ But then the more I think about it, the more I calm down.”

Gonzalez said he asked to meet with the other Chiefs to make sure the young players knew it’s about “being the best football player you can be no matter what the situation is.”

Gonzalez, 32, holds virtually every NFL receiving record for tight ends. He asked to be traded to a contender because he felt the rebuilding Chiefs (1-4) were not likely to reach championship caliber in the years he has left.

He described the past few days as “a high-stress situation.”

“It was a sad situation. It was confusing. I thought a deal was going to get struck. When it came and went, I was somewhat shocked that it didn’t go down.”

He said the team was understanding.

“All I want to do is play football and win football games. That’s what I told my teammates today. They understand it. I think the fans understand. I’ve been here 12 years. I’ve given everything I have.”

Gonzalez said he heard the Chiefs were offered a third-round pick for him, but Carl Peterson, the team’s president and general manager, told The Associated Press no team had “come close” to any reasonable offer.

“I was with (owner) Clark Hunt through this whole thing and we didn’t have any offer that would match the value of losing Tony Gonzalez,” said Peterson, who was en route from NFL meetings in Florida.

Peterson declined to say specifically what was offered.

“He may have a different opinion of his value. But we value him very, very highly,” he said. “We didn’t get anything close to what was appropriate. I didn’t really expect to. But I respected his request to see if there were teams that were interested and ones he had an interest in.”

Gonzalez said that when he signed a five-year contract extension in January 2007 he did not know the Chiefs were going to release most of their veterans and begin a youth movement. They are the youngest team in the league, and have 15 rookies on their roster.

“Why would I want to sign a long-term deal at the end of my career with a rebuilding year? Things probably would have been different,” Gonzalez said. “I think this team is going in the right direction. They’ve got some great young talent on this team, but they are rebuilding.”

Peterson also noted Gonzalez’s contract.

“We made a commitment in February of 2007, a five-year extension for $17.5 million guaranteed dollars,” he said. “A commitment was what we hoped Tony would finish his career as a Chief. At the time, he and (his agent) absolutely agreed with that.”

Peterson did agree with his star tight end that it was time for all parties to move on.

“It didn’t pan out,” he said. “I didn’t have a lot of anticipation it would, very frankly.”

Pipes
10-15-2008, 06:59 PM
Thanks for the great read Rust...

After reading that I've changed my opinion... They should of dealt him especially if they could have gotten a 3rd! To me it sounds like Carl wanted a 1st or 2nd and no team in their right mind was willing to offer that! Enjoy these last 11 games with Tony gents because he's gone for peanuts in the offseason... This is getting pathetic...:pity:

BigRatt
10-15-2008, 07:19 PM
I dont think Carl wanted to trade him.. A 3rd is a reasonable offer..

Pipes
10-15-2008, 07:36 PM
Very reasonable... I really feel this will back fire on the Chiefs for the forseable future as long as King Carl is in office... This is a joke now...:pity:

touchdown bowe
10-15-2008, 08:26 PM
Carl is the biggest fukin a*sshole ever..he cares for nobody but himself

FKNRUEHH925
10-15-2008, 10:55 PM
the bad thing is everyone has been trying to get al davis out for 10 years hahah we could very easily be dealing with CP for another 5 years...

Kcfanbaby212*
10-15-2008, 11:11 PM
no we cant be dealing with CP for 5 more...Clark wont allow it...besides...Carl will retire..

Pipes
10-15-2008, 11:17 PM
We'll see.....It's hard for any man to give up power...especially the amount that King Carl obtaines

touchdown bowe
10-15-2008, 11:28 PM
Carl Peterson is the closest freakn thing to Fidel Castro on this planet..

RustShack
10-16-2008, 12:42 AM
We'll see.....It's hard for any man to give up power...especially the amount that King Carl obtaines

He doesn't have much of a choice since his contract expires after next year... Herms is up at the same time...

Nvchiefsfan
10-16-2008, 01:04 AM
I take that 2 for 1 anytime. Hopefully the door will hit them on their way out since Clark doesn't have the balls to fire them now.

Pipes
10-16-2008, 08:30 AM
He doesn't have much of a choice since his contract expires after next year... Herms is up at the same time...

The man can quit or Claek can do what he already should of done... FIRE HIS ***!!!

Kcfanbaby212*
10-16-2008, 11:34 AM
Clark will let CP finish his contract...

In_Ned_I_Trust
10-16-2008, 01:12 PM
Carl is a douche, Tony is pissed from the story I read in the star today.

Kcfanbaby212*
10-16-2008, 05:51 PM
Tony is doing fine...hes a chief..and he has no more complaints...if you ask me...the way he went about the whole thing was selfish...and do I wish he could play for a contender? Hell yeah...but maybe he shouldve thought of that when he signed the contract to finish his career here....such as LJ...

Pipes
10-16-2008, 06:54 PM
Sounds like you and Tony hang out alot...:laugh2: Anyway's the way the hole thing played out on both sides was rediculous... But still with that said Carl agreed to deal him to GB for whatever they agreed on... then decided "No I'll up it" in the last minutes of the deal.. after might I ad he told Tony he's was heading to GB... I'm sorry Tony may be selfish for asking a trade in mid-season... But King Carl is without a doubt the true ***-hole in this thing!

RustShack
10-16-2008, 07:05 PM
Buffalo and Atlanta both offered more but Tony didn't want to go there...

Pipes
10-16-2008, 07:10 PM
But that wasn't who Carl agreed with... It was Green Bay! They had some sort of virbal agreement...to the point apparently that Green Bay was drafting papers! No... to back out of a deal like that in the fianl minutes after informing everyone is just shady!

RustShack
10-16-2008, 07:30 PM
It's Carl Peterson, do you really think he can part with a HOF player for less than another team is offering?

Pipes
10-16-2008, 07:46 PM
I don't care if it was Carl or not... It was shady flat out... It's not like him being Carl Peterson allows him to be shady... Crap like this is going to hurt this franchise long after he's shown the door!

RustShack
10-16-2008, 07:54 PM
Its a business. I'm not trading Tony for just a third to go to a team he wants to when there are better offers on the table. He is worth more to the Chiefs than that anyways. Really if he had a problem with the rebuild he shouldn't have signed an extension when he knew it was happening. It's no ones fault but his own. I don't care how much I hate Carl, it's more on Tony than anyone.

Pipes
10-16-2008, 08:07 PM
Its a business. I'm not trading Tony for just a third to go to a team he wants to when there are better offers on the table. He is worth more to the Chiefs than that anyways. Really if he had a problem with the rebuild he shouldn't have signed an extension when he knew it was happening. It's no ones fault but his own. I don't care how much I hate Carl, it's more on Tony than anyone.

Your right it is a buisness! I know you said you believe Carl will see his contract through. But I can't see (being buisness minded) Clark allowing this thing to continue being run the way it's being run... because if he's not careful his "buisness" will resemble such well run orginzations like the Raiders, Clippers, Royals, Pirates, Nationals, Bengals ect... No... everything has a breaking point and with Clark coming out and saying he has put a vote of confidence in both Herm and Carl just tells me Clark is feeling the pressure... Something will give!

RustShack
10-16-2008, 08:11 PM
This was expected from the begining, he along with all the fans knew this would happen when we entered the major rebuild. Clark unlike all the fans isn't freaking out and wanting to abandon it which would screw us over even more.

Pipes
10-16-2008, 08:42 PM
Look at the moral of this team... Herm & Co with King Carl is losing this teams repect by the minute...The hole Tony thing combined with LJ acting out is a prime example! There's rebuilding then there is self destruction... In light of everything I believe were in the latter... I'm also a Giants & Kings fan so I know what "rebuilding" is like and I'm telling you it doesn't look like this... this looks like total caos... You can mask it all you want... I'm just telling you how it is

RustShack
10-16-2008, 08:46 PM
Basketball is a whole different story, but I don't remember the Giants ever going through a major rebuild... the majority of NFL teams are afraid to do it for this very reason.

Pipes
10-16-2008, 08:54 PM
Basketball is a whole different story, but I don't remember the Giants ever going through a major rebuild... the majority of NFL teams are afraid to do it for this very reason.

How is reconstructing a team whether it's basketbal, baseball, football hell hockey diffrent.... And the Giants I was refering to is the SF Giants it wouldn't take a genious to realize their in the mist of one... Not to get off the subject our team is in serous trouble whether you want to admit it or not...

RustShack
10-16-2008, 08:57 PM
:laugh: I really question your sports knowledge now, so I'm not going to argue about it.

Pipes
10-16-2008, 09:09 PM
Honeslty dude I could give a **** about your opinion... You act like your the authority on all matters regarding the Chiefs... Honestly when I start to question you I have to remember your just a punk kid with an attitude...

RustShack
10-16-2008, 09:23 PM
Honeslty dude I could give a **** about your opinion... You act like your the authority on all matters regarding the Chiefs... Honestly when I start to question you I have to remember your just a punk kid with an attitude...

:violin:

Kcfanbaby212*
10-16-2008, 10:51 PM
O well...I dont feel the staff are losing the players....i feel the players are feeling discouraged and though they shouldnt be, someone has to be able to pick them up...and thats what the vets such as tony and the coaching staff have to do....it OK to have bad games...but they have to learn from them....you forget most of the rooks come from College programs that are very successfull and are not use to losing...they are still adjusting to the NFL...give them time...its not the coaching staff thats losing them....they are losing themselves...I think this Bye will help alot

Pipes
10-16-2008, 11:54 PM
:violin:

I know, I know... I got a little pissy... You just tend to bring out the worst in people that's all...

Pipes
10-17-2008, 12:02 AM
O well...I dont feel the staff are losing the players....i feel the players are feeling discouraged and though they shouldnt be, someone has to be able to pick them up...and thats what the vets such as tony and the coaching staff have to do....it OK to have bad games...but they have to learn from them....you forget most of the rooks come from College programs that are very successfull and are not use to losing...they are still adjusting to the NFL...give them time...its not the coaching staff thats losing them....they are losing themselves...I think this Bye will help alot

We'll see... When I see young players lose intensity and vets scrambling to jump ship it tends to tell me there beyond frustrated. It doesn't take much to lose a team! It starts with 1 bad apple (LJ) spouting off then if you continue to struggle it tends to spread like wildfire... I've been on record saying I like Herm and I still do... He may not be the best a X's & O's but he seems like a players coach. So when I see things like I said earlier it really bothers me being that's like his strength! I hope your right..this week should be a indicator! Whether we win or loose I just want to see intesnity!

Nvchiefsfan
10-17-2008, 02:39 AM
Herm sucks and he has destroyed every team he has coached on his own. He has yet to prove he can build a good team and the sooner everyone realizes it the better. Herm is an idiot and does not belong coaching in the NFL. He is a good scout and that is it. Maybe a decade in college football might give him some common sense.

Kcfanbaby212*
10-17-2008, 12:06 PM
^^ the sooner that everyone realizes? Maybe you should spout off to the owner...

Kcfanbaby212*
10-17-2008, 12:06 PM
its easy to lose a young football team...but LJ being benched just shows why Herm isnt going to lose this team...they are all equal and no 1 player is going to be held to higher standars...especially not LJ...or Tony....

Nvchiefsfan
10-17-2008, 02:37 PM
LJ is just like Plaxico it won't matter to him one bit. He hasn't changed since he's been in the NFL. Herm will lose it and hopefully sooner than later because I'm sick of seeing him on the sidelines.

Pipes
10-17-2008, 06:44 PM
I hear what your saying Fanbaby but like Nvchiefsfan said it won't matter to him... especially since they "deactivated" him instead of "suspending" him... He's going to get paid this week he just gets to stay home.... And yes it's easy to lose a young team that's why having a vet like LJ run his mouth or even better yet a "respected" one like Tony trying to flee the ship in mid-season is so conserning to me... This team is on the verge of a complete melt down... I know it sounds very extreme but all the indicators are there! I hope whether we win or loose this week they play with a ton of intensity! That would convince me that this team isn't on the verge of quitting on Herm.. Anything short of that..well...:shrug: