View Full Version : Offseason outlook: Orioles

iam brett favre
09-17-2008, 12:00 AM
C - Ramon Hernandez - $8MM
C - Guillermo Quiroz - $400K
1B -
2B - Brian Roberts - $8MM
SS - Freddie Bynum - $400K+
3B - Melvin Mora - $9MM
IF - Brandon Fahey - $400K
IF - Luis Hernandez - $400K
LF - Luke Scott - $430K+
CF - Adam Jones - $400K
RF - Nick Markakis - $455K+
OF - Luis Montanez - $400K
DH - Aubrey Huff - $8MM

SP - Jeremy Guthrie - $770K+
SP - Daniel Cabrera - $2.875MM+
SP - Garrett Olson - $400K
SP - Matt Albers - $400K
SP - Hayden Penn - $400K

RP - George Sherrill - $980K+
RP - Jim Johnson - $400K
RP - Jamie Walker - $4.5MM
RP - Chris Ray - $445K+
RP - Dennis Sarfate - $400K
RP - Fernando Cabrera - $575K+
RP - Alberto Castillo - $400K

Other commitments: Brian Matusz - $870K, Adam Loewen - $816K+, Danys Baez - $7.2MM, Jay Gibbons - $6.2MM

Non-tender candidates: Brian Burres, Lance Cormier

Other pitching staff candidates: Troy Patton, Radhames Liz, Kam Mickolio, James Hoey, Randor Bierd, Rocky Cherry, Brad Bergesen, Chris Waters, David Hernandez

Let's just say the Orioles' commitments will be under $75MM, even accounting for arbitration raises. Markakis should get the biggest raise, as he is arb-eligible for the first time.

No one knows what the Opening Day pitching staff will look like; Guthrie seems the only certainty in the rotation. To me, the best solution is to just let all the kids battle it out in spring training. No need to throw away $5MM+ on a veteran innings eater. An exception: I've seen A.J. Burnett's name tossed around by fans, and I see their point. He'd add respectability and could still be a good pitcher when the Orioles are ready to compete. It's worth exploring.

Expendable veterans abound: Ramon Hernandez, Roberts, Mora, Huff, Walker, and Daniel Cabrera could all be moved this winter. These guys aren't part of the next competitive Orioles club. The goal: acquire quality middle infielders and starting pitching, of course. Andy MacPhail's hauls from last winter inspire confidence. In 2010 or 2011, the Orioles could be a few pieces away from contention and flush with cash.

Mark Teixeira's name has also been bandied about as a possible offseason target. While Tex is a very good player, I don't see him as a once-in-a-lifetime guy who needs to be locked up before the Orioles are contenders. The price will be astronomical and it just doesn't seem to fit with the team's current philosophy.


bigity b
09-17-2008, 03:54 PM
way to rain reality on our hopes and dreams. The best reporting was the 'expendable veterans' section. If we could get rid of half of them for mlb ready prospects (specifically SS) then we should be fine and on the right course.

09-19-2008, 02:18 PM
I dont expect much out of us next year either unless our minor league prospects start to shine early

09-22-2008, 01:54 PM
Good post. Just a few spots I disagree.

I actually disagree with some of this. Nick Mark will recieve a large contract, Luke Scott I'd imagine will want some kind of long term commitment.

Will B-Rob remain an Oriole? And jesus god we've got to do something about Danny Baez. Also, I thought that Gibbons contract was over when he signed another contract in the minors.

bigity b
09-22-2008, 02:51 PM
^^^ We gave Gibbons guaranteed money so he will be on the O's books for the next two years. Thats part of the reason why he was able to accept a minor league deal (besides it giving him another shot at the majors). Baez comes off the IR this upcoming offseason (i think he had tommy john surgery this year) so expect to see him in the bullpen as a R specialist. Thankfully next year is the last year of his contract. ...

09-28-2008, 03:00 AM
I used to think signing Teixeira and Furcal would buy us time until our pitching developed. At this rate, I'm not sure either of them would sign here.

We need depth in our farm system, and we need to rebuild this club the right way. After watching the team flounder again in September, I hope MacPhail is ready to let go of our core players.

Think about all of the prospects we could get for Brian Roberts, Aubrey Huff, Luke Scott, George Sherrill, Ramon Hernandez, and Jeremy Guthrie. I'm wavering on that last one, but if we're going to rebuild, we need serious help all over the diamond.

That wouldn't be the end of it, either. I'd say goodbye to Jamie Walker, Daniel Cabrera, and Brian Burres. I'd also showcase Baez (assuming he's productive) and hope somebody picks him up for the stretch run. I'd even beg Melvin Mora to waive his no-trade clause. He's coming off one of his best years in recent memory.

As you can tell, I'm a little disappointed right now - but I think all this losing has cleared my head. Get them all off the books and rebuild the right way - with a ton of ML-ready prospects.