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airborne_06
09-16-2008, 07:51 AM
which of the following western guys listed below can bring kobe a 18pts or less, shooting 6/19, 3rebs and committing at least 4 turnovers per game?

a. posey (no)
b. battier (hou)
c. harpring (uta)
d. artest (hou)
e. howard (dal)
f. bell (phx)
g. bowen (sa)
h. najera (den)
i. kirilenko (uta)
j. others (pls. specify)

MiamiHeatWade33
09-16-2008, 07:53 AM
Shane Battier he did a great job on him during one game when the rockets were on that 22 game winning streak.

DreamShaker
09-16-2008, 07:54 AM
Nobody.

CELTICS4LYFE
09-16-2008, 07:56 AM
Paul Pierce

NYKnickFanatic
09-16-2008, 08:01 AM
1. Shane Battier
2. Ron Artest
3. Bruce Bowen
4. Raja Bell
5. James Posey

airborne_06
09-16-2008, 08:11 AM
Nobody.

why? u are a lakers fan definitely...

for me its..
1. kirilenko
2. battier
3. posey
4. artest
5. najera

bowen is not sucesful in guarding kobe since kobe's performance against the spurs (wcf) was so terific...

Lord Leoshes
09-16-2008, 08:12 AM
1. Shane Battier
2. Ron Artest
3. Bruce Bowen
4. Raja Bell
5. James Posey



No one can but these guys have the best chance. Not so much R Bell.

NYKnickFanatic
09-16-2008, 08:17 AM
why? u are a lakers fan definitely...

for me its..
1. kirilenko
2. battier
3. posey
4. artest
5. najera

bowen is not sucesful in guarding kobe since kobe's performance against the spurs (wcf) was so terific...

IMO, Battier > Kirilenko.

When Battier plays against Kobe, to me, it seems like he does such a great job.

Always has that hand in his face. Doesnt try to block the ball, just puts his hands right between Kobes arms and gets that hand right in his face.

DenButsu
09-16-2008, 08:24 AM
Not Najera. He's a good defender in his own right, but only of 3-4-5s (and mainly 4s). Kobe would torch him.

MiamiHeatWade33
09-16-2008, 08:26 AM
yeah

airborne_06
09-16-2008, 08:33 AM
IMO, Battier > Kirilenko.

When Battier plays against Kobe, to me, it seems like he does such a great job.

Always has that hand in his face. Doesnt try to block the ball, just puts his hands right between Kobes arms and gets that hand right in his face.

eventhough im a rockets fan, i think kirilenko is better than battier, bcoz of his length and timing.. the reason why the lakers beat jazz was becoz they cant defend gasol and odom since ak47 is concentrating on kobe..lack of big guys as compared to l.a.

rico
09-16-2008, 08:33 AM
battier.

DreamShaker
09-16-2008, 08:42 AM
why? u are a lakers fan definitely...

for me its..
1. kirilenko
2. battier
3. posey
4. artest
5. najera

bowen is not sucesful in guarding kobe since kobe's performance against the spurs (wcf) was so terific...

Me a Lakers fan?? Yeah....right. I'm just being honest....the question was "Who can stop Kobe on a consistent basis and hold him to 18PPG" or something like that....nobody can....

airborne_06
09-16-2008, 08:51 AM
Me a Lakers fan?? Yeah....right. I'm just being honest....the question was "Who can stop Kobe on a consistent basis and hold him to 18PPG" or something like that....nobody can....


how long do you think kobe is unstoppable? i think his talent will diminish by 2011 or sooner..

Tom81
09-16-2008, 08:53 AM
Shane Battier he did a great job on him during one game when the rockets were on that 22 game winning streak.

yeap,Battier play great in this one

DreamShaker
09-16-2008, 09:00 AM
how long do you think kobe is unstoppable? i think his talent will diminish by 2011 or sooner..

Well MJ won his last title when he was 34 and averaged nearly 29PPG that season....then he retired the next season....Kobe is gonna slow down athletically but he can still do what he does now for awhile....will he win more championships?? Not sure....hopefully not and the Rockets 5-pete;)

rico
09-16-2008, 09:05 AM
Me a Lakers fan?? Yeah....right. I'm just being honest....the question was "Who can stop Kobe on a consistent basis and hold him to 18PPG" or something like that....nobody can....
there is someone..

kobe. ;P

Joshtd1
09-16-2008, 09:12 AM
So because Kobe did good against Bowen in the WCF, he can't guard him? :confused:

Icebox922
09-16-2008, 09:17 AM
Kobe ? noone can guard this guy.

But If you ask me Who can guard Lebron?

answer: Carmelo Anthony.

$ NyC $
09-16-2008, 10:04 AM
Battier, Artest

Raja Bell always hated him

DreamShaker
09-16-2008, 10:15 AM
Kobe ? noone can guard this guy.

But If you ask me Who can guard Lebron?

answer: Carmelo Anthony.

Yeah....Melo is probably the greatest defender of all-time....

DLeeicious
09-16-2008, 10:42 AM
Artest. And from the East my boy Thabo Sefalosha!

ShakeN'Bake
09-16-2008, 11:00 AM
I dont know how consistent it would actually be but I think Battier and Artest have the best chances at it

JJ81
09-16-2008, 11:11 AM
Paul Pierce

"Western Players", read the post before you start sucking Pierce's dick:rolleyes:

JJ81
09-16-2008, 11:13 AM
Battier probably.

PhxGiant
09-16-2008, 11:27 AM
Battier.

FOBolous
09-16-2008, 11:28 AM
Me a Lakers fan?? Yeah....right. I'm just being honest....the question was "Who can stop Kobe on a consistent basis and hold him to 18PPG" or something like that....nobody can....

Chuck Norris can

x_notorious
09-16-2008, 11:42 AM
Artest? :laugh2: Go to youtube. Find some games with the Lakers v.s Sac. Kobe torches Artest on multiple occasions. Like 30-40 points per game.

No one can 'stop' Kobe but a few could contain him. Guys like Battier and Bowen do the best on him.

DreamShaker
09-16-2008, 11:55 AM
Chuck Norris can

Well....yeah....

Frank Costanza
09-16-2008, 11:57 AM
itll be artest and shane battier this yr that will do the best job in the heated battles LAL and HOU will have

MoBASS
09-16-2008, 12:01 PM
J) Ruben Patterson aka the "Kobe stopper"... LOL

Hometeamrivals
09-16-2008, 12:17 PM
Nobody can LoL

fredv
09-16-2008, 12:28 PM
Battier+Artest=No Kobe

However there is still Gasol and Bynum to defend. Yao can do that. Just Gasol that is dangerous.

JIDsanity
09-16-2008, 12:34 PM
You don't have Kyle Korver, or Mike James up there, that's just sad

Lebron23
09-16-2008, 12:45 PM
Only a Double or Triple Team can stop Kobe Bryant, and he's one of the best 1 on 1 player in the history of the NBA.

_Sn1P3r_
09-16-2008, 12:49 PM
Shane Battier he did a great job on him during one game when the rockets were on that 22 game winning streak.

Yea I remember that game. He got his hand on Kobe's face every shot.

AmerTeam/KB24
09-16-2008, 12:50 PM
Nobody can actually guard Kobe consistently but they main goal is to try to slow him down Boston who I absolutely hate did the best job at that.......

vs. UTH 31.8ppg 52% 6.4reb 6.3as 3.9to
vs. hou 33ppg 40% 7.6reb 3.6as 4 to
vs. Sac 27.3ppg 40.3% 5.3reb 4.5as 3.3 to
vs. DAL 36.5ppg 54.2% 8.3reb 5.5as 2.5to
vs. PHO 31.3ppg 53.7% 7.0reb 4.5as 5.0to
vs. bos 25.5ppg 38% 4.7reb 4.5as 3.5to
vs. sas 27ppg 49% 6.7reb 4.1as 3.2to
vs den 28.5ppg 52% 5.7reb 6.8as 2.8to

there is nobody who can guard as i stated be u will need a lot of help defense against kobe and hope the rest of his team freeze up.......

JMan17
09-16-2008, 12:57 PM
people that say battier can guard him CONSISTENTLY have not watched kobe. Battier did do a great job on him, and I MEAN GREAT! but 1 game does not mean he is all of a sudden the kobe stopper. Kobe played battier so many other times and he turned battier to dust. But it seems people only want to remember a game where kobe did NOT do well. So they make it sound like whoever stops kobe is the best defender ever.

people that say artest is not even close, every game those guys faced eachother kobe dusted him like he was nothing. You even hear Artest himself that the next time he faces kobe he played super tough on D-wade and wade asked him "hey man why you got to be hard?" artest respounds "i got to guard kobe" :D But of course not 1 game where artest did any good on kobe.

Kobe is the most unguardable player in the NBA. if you make him go 1 on 1 on a guy, you're done. Game over. you have to double team, triple team the guy in order to even only allow kobe getting his.

It use to work to beat the lakers but now with Gasol, Bynum, Odom, you can't double team kobe anymore, mabye when he drives but that's it, otherwise you get a ally opp to either Gasol or Bynum. simple.

IndyRealist
09-16-2008, 01:34 PM
Nobody can actually guard Kobe consistently but they main goal is to try to slow him down Boston who I absolutely hate did the best job at that.......

vs. UTH 31.8ppg 52% 6.4reb 6.3as 3.9to
vs. hou 33ppg 40% 7.6reb 3.6as 4 to
vs. Sac 27.3ppg 40.3% 5.3reb 4.5as 3.3 to
vs. DAL 36.5ppg 54.2% 8.3reb 5.5as 2.5to
vs. PHO 31.3ppg 53.7% 7.0reb 4.5as 5.0to
vs. bos 25.5ppg 38% 4.7reb 4.5as 3.5to
vs. sas 27ppg 49% 6.7reb 4.1as 3.2to
vs den 28.5ppg 52% 5.7reb 6.8as 2.8to

there is nobody who can guard as i stated be u will need a lot of help defense against kobe and hope the rest of his team freeze up.......

I'm trying to figure out where these numbers come from, I have:
vs Utah 29.8ppg
vs Boston 25ppg
vs San Antonio 24.3ppg
vs Denver 22ppg
Do they include playoff numbers?
Source: http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kobe_bryant/season_splits.html

The Western Conference team to hold him to the lowest average was the Clippers, where he went 27-59 in four games for 20.3ppg.

His worst averages against Eastern Conference teams are: Atlanta (17ppg), Philly (17ppg), Chicago (18ppg), and New Jersey (18.5ppg). Though since he only played two games each against those teams, it's entirely possible one fluke night skewed the numbers. He shot 32.6% against Boston and 29.4% against Jersey. I guess this means Vince Carter is the real Kobe-stopper. :smoking:

He seems to universally play worse against Eastern Conference teams, and it seems the best team out West to defend Kobe would be Golden State, where Bryant was forced to play 43.3 minutes per game, and averaged 28.8ppg on 36.8% shooting and 23.1% on 3's. His regular season averages are 28.3ppg, on 45.9% and 36.1% in 38.9 minutes per game.

fresh prince
09-16-2008, 02:15 PM
Shane Battier and Travis Outlaw play him as good as anyone I've seen...

But no one can consistently stop Kobe Bryant..Except for Kobe Bryant.

What I mean is you have to force him into difficult shots and just hope he's having an off night.

Its never 100% about what you do as a defender when a player is that good offensively.

Coqui77
09-16-2008, 02:36 PM
The Spurs lost to the REFS and not the Lakers last year.

Coqui77
09-16-2008, 02:40 PM
Kobe should not have won MVP last year. whats the point of dominating if you cant win the game.
Chirs Paul was robbed.

FOBolous
09-16-2008, 02:41 PM
Nobody can actually guard Kobe consistently but they main goal is to try to slow him down Boston who I absolutely hate did the best job at that.......

vs. UTH 31.8ppg 52% 6.4reb 6.3as 3.9to
vs. hou 33ppg 40% 7.6reb 3.6as 4 to
vs. Sac 27.3ppg 40.3% 5.3reb 4.5as 3.3 to
vs. DAL 36.5ppg 54.2% 8.3reb 5.5as 2.5to
vs. PHO 31.3ppg 53.7% 7.0reb 4.5as 5.0to
vs. bos 25.5ppg 38% 4.7reb 4.5as 3.5to
vs. sas 27ppg 49% 6.7reb 4.1as 3.2to
vs den 28.5ppg 52% 5.7reb 6.8as 2.8to

there is nobody who can guard as i stated be u will need a lot of help defense against kobe and hope the rest of his team freeze up.......

Kobe is going to going to get his points no matter what. but i think kobe is "contained" when he shoots a low percentage from the field. low percentage means a lot more attempts which means a lot more missed shots which equals to a lot more offensive opportunities for the opposing team. A low FG% also means the Kobe is looking for his own shots more and isn't getting his teammates involved...and all that equals to a bad game by the Lakers.

and judging by the stats...it looks like Houston (Battier), Sac (Artest), and Boston (Posey) did the best job of containing or "stopping" Kobe so yeea...Battier, Artest, and Posey are the "kobe stoppers."

$ NyC $
09-16-2008, 02:59 PM
Instead of stopping Kobe its more about making him less efficient. If you noticed the stats up there, he shoots poor numbers but still gets 28 points.

I can't wait 4 the match-ups vs. Houston i feel bad 4 Kobe. He prob use 2 take a sigh of relief when Battier was benched. Now when Battier's benched he has Artest.

LAKERS 24/7
09-16-2008, 03:04 PM
The Spurs lost to the REFS and not the Lakers last year.

sore loser? I don't even hear spurs fans saying that, you must be a laker hater.


Kobe should not have won MVP last year. whats the point of dominating if you cant win the game.
Chirs Paul was robbed.

and what?

GCOOKIE7
09-16-2008, 03:11 PM
the self-proclaimed kobe stopper Ruben Patterson

bball1217
09-16-2008, 03:11 PM
No body consistently shuts Kobe down, but these guys are the best at doing it and can do it about 75% of the time IMO:
Battier
Artest
Posey
Kirlienko
Bowen

#1Mavericksfan
09-16-2008, 03:22 PM
There's no way you gonna shut Kobe down for an entire game but here's some guys that do a good job of defending him.

Shane Battier
James Posey
Paul Pierce

IndyRealist
09-16-2008, 03:28 PM
Instead of stopping Kobe its more about making him less efficient. If you noticed the stats up there, he shoots poor numbers but still gets 28 points.

I can't wait 4 the match-ups vs. Houston i feel bad 4 Kobe. He prob use 2 take a sigh of relief when Battier was benched. Now when Battier's benched he has Artest.

Can you imagine a 7 game series? Artest, Battier, Artest, Battier, etc. for 48 minutes, 7 games? Kobe might lose his mind. I mean, moreso. :smoking:

fresh prince
09-16-2008, 03:39 PM
The Spurs lost to the REFS and not the Lakers last year.

HAHAHA..Not even close to being true... and What the hell does that have to with this thread?

Chronz
09-16-2008, 03:41 PM
The Celtics

NFLNBA
09-16-2008, 03:55 PM
So many people ask this question! Ask Lebron James ask some of the best players that play against him, they will tell you that you cant stop him 1 on 1.
YOu use team defense and just try to limit him or make him work for it.

18 Points 3 REB 4 Turnovers the only one that could do that to him is himself, looking for teamates to much prob has 8-10 assists lol

knowledgeGOD
09-16-2008, 03:56 PM
artest, paul peirce

KmB728
09-16-2008, 03:58 PM
Hes not in the west... but Pierce shut him down

Faneik
09-16-2008, 04:05 PM
The Celtics

Exactly!

Team defense is the way to go to contain such a versatile scorer.

hdxstunts1
09-16-2008, 04:35 PM
I thoguht that Tayshaun PRince has done damn good against him in the past. He's limited Kobe's scoring.

Also unbelieveably Thabo Sefalosha ate him up on D for the bulls. Kobe wasnt a factor at all! (wouldnt go that far) but still he wasnt as big a factor as he shouldve been.

ARMIN12NBA
09-16-2008, 05:02 PM
why? u are a lakers fan definitely...

for me its..
1. kirilenko
2. battier
3. posey
4. artest
5. najera

bowen is not sucesful in guarding kobe since kobe's performance against the spurs (wcf) was so terific...

DreamShaker is a well-known Rockets fan around here.

Kobe Bryant averaged 33 PPG/7 APG/7 RPG and 49% shooting on Andre Kirilenko...

Anyways, the answer to this question is NOBODY. There are quite a few players that can defend Kobe and hold him down...But not consistently. Consistently, to me, is nearly every game and no player in the NBA can stop him consistently.

bogdanrom
09-16-2008, 05:10 PM
Consistently? No one. He is way to good to be stopped or even slowed down every game. I do remember Shane Battier did a really good job against him last year in Houston. But nowadays it's not all about one on one defense anymore. It's about team defense ex. Boston. They didn't have one amazing defender but had a bunch of guys willing to play D.

ARMIN12NBA
09-16-2008, 05:17 PM
Consistently? No one. He is way to good to be stopped or even slowed down every game. I do remember Shane Battier did a really good job against him last year in Houston. But nowadays it's not all about one on one defense anymore. It's about team defense ex. Boston. They didn't have one amazing defender but had a bunch of guys willing to play D.

Exactly. They basically clogged the lanes and forced his teammates to have to make open shots from the outside, which they didn't. Team defense is the only way to stop Kobe and that doesn't even happen consistently (Kobe had 36 points on 60% shooting in Game 3).

Lakersfan2483
09-16-2008, 05:28 PM
Lol. Who can stop Kobe? What type of thread is this? Let's make a thread on who can stop Lebron, Iverson, Shaq, Duncan...... No one can stop Kobe, when you are a great player, it takes a great team defense to slow down a great player.

LAcowBOMBER
09-16-2008, 05:30 PM
Didn't Kobe drop close to 50 on Battier in 3 quarters when Battier was with the Griz?

The answer is nobody because the question said consistently

Lakersfan2483
09-16-2008, 05:34 PM
The Celtics team did as good as you can to slow down Kobe, and he still averaged 25ppg. It's about team defense and it takes a great team defense to slow down superstars. Examples: The Celtics defense on Lebron and Kobe during the playoffs and finals. Lebron shot 35 pct against the Celtics defense.

Lakersfan2483
09-16-2008, 05:35 PM
Another example of great team defense to slow down a superstar: The Sonics in 96 against MJ, MJ avg. 26ppg on 42pct. shooting. Great team defense, but the Bulls' were too good to be beaten by the Sonics.

ShaunRiching9
09-16-2008, 05:39 PM
Ronny Artest fo sho

BigEric
09-16-2008, 05:51 PM
I'd choose Battier or when it comes down to it, Pierce did an excellent job of defending him in the playoffs, and it would be hard not to choose him.

AmerTeam/KB24
09-16-2008, 06:18 PM
I'm trying to figure out where these numbers come from, I have:
vs Utah 29.8ppg
vs Boston 25ppg
vs San Antonio 24.3ppg
vs Denver 22ppg
Do they include playoff numbers?
Source: http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kobe_bryant/season_splits.html

The Western Conference team to hold him to the lowest average was the Clippers, where he went 27-59 in four games for 20.3ppg.

His worst averages against Eastern Conference teams are: Atlanta (17ppg), Philly (17ppg), Chicago (18ppg), and New Jersey (18.5ppg). Though since he only played two games each against those teams, it's entirely possible one fluke night skewed the numbers. He shot 32.6% against Boston and 29.4% against Jersey. I guess this means Vince Carter is the real Kobe-stopper. :smoking:

He seems to universally play worse against Eastern Conference teams, and it seems the best team out West to defend Kobe would be Golden State, where Bryant was forced to play 43.3 minutes per game, and averaged 28.8ppg on 36.8% shooting and 23.1% on 3's. His regular season averages are 28.3ppg, on 45.9% and 36.1% in 38.9 minutes per game.

thats including playoffs i agree but that was also when he had kwame clown brain cooke and the rest of the scrubs he always had to do too much. Now hes gonna get a full season wit bynum pau odom in the staring line up watch how easy it will be for kobe...
Denver was a blow out every time
against new jersey is when he injured his shooting hand but still played
Bottom line nobody can stop him consistently!!!!!

zachattach
09-16-2008, 06:20 PM
guys that give Kobe a tough time sometimes. Battier, Artest, Kenyon Martin, LBJ and maybe Bowen and Posey (them two just make him work harder)..

who said Najeria?? He has been known to light up the Suns (Raja) the Jazz (AK47)

SensandRaps
09-16-2008, 06:20 PM
i think pierce can defend kobe the best he did a good job on him in the playoffs

hyphy king 88
09-16-2008, 06:20 PM
Artest. A bit slower then Kobe but can really put pressure on him with his size and power. Then i would go with Battier.

zachattach
09-16-2008, 06:22 PM
i remember they asked Kobe who gave him the toughest time and he said Eric Snow.

SwaggaIke
09-16-2008, 06:48 PM
Battier has locked Kobe up before. Also Bowen has kept Bryant off the line.

KiNgSuNs1
09-16-2008, 07:00 PM
hmmmmmmmmm hmmmmmmmm to me its who makes him work harder to get his points.....i know raja makes him work real hard by being aggressive ........but battier and kirilinko bother him with there length...

Gro_Da_Fro_Back
09-16-2008, 07:01 PM
As a Laker fan i feel like Battier did a good job but Kobe still got his points. But he did a great job and now i hate him.

breedlove2drug
09-16-2008, 07:26 PM
Paul Pierce

good joke

breedlove2drug
09-16-2008, 07:28 PM
Ronny Artest fo sho

your signature is hilarious

HouRealCoach
09-16-2008, 07:38 PM
Boston and Houston have the best chances

snickers
09-16-2008, 07:47 PM
no 1 can stop kobe when he on fire tho like whats say that game were he played suns and it was shaq first game as a sun pretty much torched everybody

G-Funk
09-16-2008, 08:03 PM
IMO, Battier > Kirilenko.

When Battier plays against Kobe, to me, it seems like he does such a great job.

Always has that hand in his face. Doesnt try to block the ball, just puts his hands right between Kobes arms and gets that hand right in his face.
That was just one game, kobe has dropped mad points on him throught there careers, same goes to every player on the list, they have had a few games of success against him but then again Kobe has killed so many times.

G-Funk
09-16-2008, 08:33 PM
The Spurs lost to the REFS and not the Lakers last year.
Oh Like the Mavs lost to the Refs and not to Wade and Miami??? I get it.

AirJordanXVIII
09-16-2008, 08:34 PM
There will always be someone who locks him down one game. No one can lock him down consistently.

Lost Art
09-16-2008, 08:48 PM
Only Kobe can keep Kobe from scoring on a consistent basis. Sure those guys can lock him down every once and a while............but Kobe's jumper is his weapon of choice and when he has that going there is really nothing you can do.

...............unless you put 2-3 guys on him at all times

agobbi17
09-16-2008, 08:52 PM
1. Shane Battier
2. Ron Artest
3. Bruce Bowen
4. Raja Bell
5. James Posey

"Battier and Artest" Are comin to wreck the west.

chicagowhitesox
09-16-2008, 09:00 PM
none of the above. no one can stop him from shooting less than 20 times. he doesn't have to be open, he just forces up shots.

IBleedPurple
09-16-2008, 09:17 PM
It's gotta be the Kobe Stopper Ruben Patterson :D

Really though, I'd say Battier would be best, but hard to defend.
Bowen would be second....that guy is a pest

knicks1214
09-16-2008, 09:22 PM
@Chicago, he actually averaged 20.6 shots per game meaning that there were many games in which he shot under 20 shots...plus, when Gasol came, he was not shooting as often. Plus, he still managed to shoot 46% from the field and 36% from 3-pt range...those are solid numbers. Probably Bowen because he gets away with a lot of stuff while playing defense and can tick people off real easily because of his dirty play...

crew158
09-16-2008, 09:44 PM
why? u are a lakers fan definitely...

for me its..
1. kirilenko
2. battier
3. posey
4. artest
5. najera

bowen is not sucesful in guarding kobe since kobe's performance against the spurs (wcf) was so terific...


Do you watch bball? Kirilenko gets embarrassed every time he is on Kobe. Battier was the most effective defender ive seen on him in quite some time.

agobbi17
09-16-2008, 09:48 PM
The Rockets are going to to take the west.

Beno7500
09-16-2008, 11:29 PM
Probably Ron Artest.

LAKERS 24/7
09-17-2008, 02:59 AM
Didn't Kobe drop close to 50 on Battier in 3 quarters when Battier was with the Griz?

The answer is nobody because the question said consistently

56 to be exact :D

G-Funk
09-17-2008, 03:20 AM
he dropped 45(13-32) on Battier on opening night.

DerekRE_3
09-17-2008, 04:11 AM
Probably Ron Artest.

Actually historically Ron Artest has not fared well against Kobe. Kobe has owned him in every matchup.

Fireworld
09-17-2008, 05:00 AM
only kobe can stop kobe, but if i had to choose from you're list: bowen.

cahawk
09-17-2008, 05:32 AM
So true....kobe can stop kobe.
Poor shot selection & high degree of difficulty causing his FG% & 3pt% to be lowere than others as in NBA Finals & Olympics.

BowDown32
09-17-2008, 11:21 AM
I ain't a Laker fan and the answer is NOBODY!

You said the question is consistently and no one can do it consistenly.

If I had to pick three who would bother him the most and get in his grill no matter what I would take Battier, Artest and Bowen. Luckily two of these guys play on the same team so Kobe is gonna have fun playing Houston this year.

JordansBulls
09-17-2008, 11:36 AM
which of the following western guys listed below can bring kobe a 18pts or less, shooting 6/19, 3rebs and committing at least 4 turnovers per game?

a. posey (no)
b. battier (hou)
c. harpring (uta)
d. artest (hou)
e. howard (dal)
f. bell (phx)
g. bowen (sa)
h. najera (den)
i. kirilenko (uta)
j. others (pls. specify)

You mean for a series? Also are you talking single coverage?

Highlight
09-17-2008, 12:15 PM
Team defense is the only way to stop superstars like

Kobe, Lebron, Wade, ETC.

These guys can't be stopped with single coverage all game. At least not consistently.

kambion
09-17-2008, 02:14 PM
trenton hassel....seriously...he always keeps him under 30 points ALWAYS

IndyRealist
09-17-2008, 02:19 PM
Team defense is the only way to stop superstars like

Kobe, Lebron, Wade, ETC.

These guys can't be stopped with single coverage all game. At least not consistently.

Absolutely right. The rules are structured to benefit offensive wing players like Kobe, Lebron, Wade, etc. No handchecking outside the paint. Defender has to have his feet set to take a charge. Defender can't be in the lane longer than 3 seconds. Defender can't touch the ball while it's above the cylinder. That stupid little half circle under the basket. All of the rules are made to benefit one-on-one and pick-and-roll slashers cutting to the basket for dunks and layups, i.e. highlight reel footage.

JOSETHEALLSTAR
09-18-2008, 12:31 AM
first no one and second battier

THE_FLASH_21
09-18-2008, 01:00 AM
Harpring plays him really strong!!! AK does o.k but Harpring bodys him up!

Lakerfan32
09-18-2008, 01:20 AM
The media. Any time there is some sort of back story (Lebron game, Chicago after trade talks, 76ers, Knicks, Suns) where Kobe is the focus of most of the coverage (could be any game really) he goes out and tries to make a point. He will try and "take over" the game and is either hot or ice cold and takes the team completely out of the game.

rhino17
09-18-2008, 01:40 AM
why? u are a lakers fan definitely...



yes, the rockets mod is really a lakers fan

AKA TheMamba
09-18-2008, 01:53 AM
No Body can hold kobe to 18ppg 3 rpg????? 4 turnovers he already averages 3 per contest..... Answer is dun dun dun No 1..... No 2....... and on occasion the whole team.... Homer yes true but please!!! Those numbers only exist in the last years of his career if were talking about consistently holding the man to a mere 18 points....

AKA TheMamba
09-18-2008, 01:56 AM
trenton hassel....seriously...he always keeps him under 30 points ALWAYS

Not really a compliment to hassel really... does he really go home with his head held high and say yes kobe scored less than 30 on me but our team loss... Cmon Bowen of 4 - 6 years ago would have the best chance.

LA412
09-18-2008, 02:41 AM
Najera? lol be serious............the answer is no one consistently........but if i had to pick it would be battier.....possibly bowen........i saw an interview where kobe said bowen was the toughest defender he had to face in the nba

kid#8
09-18-2008, 03:24 AM
no one can guard that man.... not even BOWEN.. yeah, bowen can stay with him but not for the entire game and he really do it very dirty... especially when he play defense on guys like KOBE. T-Mac and any other superstar....
I guess a whole team effort can guard him....but not toronto... kobe scored 81pts. on them, their team effort is not enough...lol...

LakerzDQ
09-18-2008, 04:04 AM
from what I know:
1. Bruce Bowen (Kobe admitted that he has to work real hard against bowen)
2. Ron Artest (a great defensive player, and Kobe is marked on his calendar)
3. Shane Battier (good defensive player, can sometimes slow him down)
4. Tayshaun Prince/Rip Hamilton (I dunno which, but Kobe never torches the pistons.)
5. James Posey (he can't really do anything, but closest to n.5.)

DenButsu
09-18-2008, 05:33 AM
Renaldo Balkman? :shrug:

From his interview in the Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_10493971):


Q: You're a defensive guy. Where do you rank, in your mind, among the NBA's best defensive players?

A: If you ask coaches, they would probably say I'm a pretty good defensive player. One of the best in the league.

TMAC94
09-18-2008, 06:03 AM
Shane Battier or Bruce probally

THE_FLASH_21
09-18-2008, 11:54 AM
I think Ruben Patterson.....:D

Highlight
09-18-2008, 12:11 PM
from what I know:
1. Bruce Bowen (Kobe admitted that he has to work real hard against bowen)
2. Ron Artest (a great defensive player, and Kobe is marked on his calendar)
3. Shane Battier (good defensive player, can sometimes slow him down)
4. Tayshaun Prince/Rip Hamilton (I dunno which, but Kobe never torches the pistons.)
5. James Posey (he can't really do anything, but closest to n.5.)

That's because the Pistons play great team defense. Any team with great team defense will give a superstar fits.

If you let any of these guys go one on one with Kobe/Lebron/Wade ETC, we all know those guys would completely torch them. Even 1 on 2, these guy would torch them. Fact is, team defense is the only way to stop superstars.

Just look at the Finals this year... The Celtics had a plan of completely focusing and trying to shut down Kobe. They completely cut off the lanes and forced him to either take a tough shot or give it up to his teammates. They made the rest of the Lakers try to beat them.

You can also look at the Eastern Semi Finals (Cavs vs Celtics). I don't think anyone has seen Lebron play so bad. I know I haven't. He shot 35.5% from the field and 23.1% from the 3 point line! He also averaged 5.3 turnovers a game.

All in all, like I said before, the only way you can stop the likes of superstars like Kobe/Lebron/Wade, is if you play great team defense.