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JordansBulls
09-11-2008, 04:56 PM
Source: ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=NBAChamps-080911)



The Lakers might win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

• The most famous pinkie in the history of hoops holds up. We've been hearing about Bryant's finger since February, and now he has opted against surgery because he doesn't want to miss any time this season with the team. Maybe this change of heart will lead to a quieter training camp for the Lakers … or not.

• Andrew Bynum regains last season's form. The Lakers were good enough to reach the NBA Finals last season and that was without their rapidly improving big man. Bynum injured his left knee eight months ago, but now says he is 100 percent healthy. If that's the case, watch out.

• The bench mob -- minus Ronny Turiaf, who is now in Golden State -- once again provides quality minutes.


The Lakers might not win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

• Kobe gets too weary during the next nine months after the Lakers' deep playoff run and his Olympic commitment. Also, if his finger forces him to miss time, that will mean trouble in Lakerland.

• The frontcourt gets too crowded. After Pau Gasol was acquired midseason, he performed well in the frontcourt with Lamar Odom. How will Bynum fit in?

• Derek Fisher shows signs of aging and Jordan Farmar isn't ready to fill the void.



The Hornets might win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

• Newly acquired James Posey plays tight D and hits clutch 3s like he did in Miami and Boston.

• Chris Paul improves on his MVP-worthy season from a year ago.

• The young squad learned some valuable lessons during its impressive postseason run.



The Hornets might not win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

• They don't find someone to fill the void at 2-guard.

• Chris Paul, David West and/or Tyson Chandler has one of those seasons in which he misses a big chunk of time due to injury.

• The West is the wild, wild West again. Last year eight teams won 50 or more games, and with many squads making roster tweaks, the West is expected to be as competitive as ever.



The Celtics might win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

• They continue to be the top defensive club in the league.

• Kendrick Perkins and Rajon Rondo take their games to the next level.

• They can get strong contributions from the likes of Eddie House, Leon Powe, Glen Davis … and (yes) Darius Miles.



The Celtics might not win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

• They can't find someone to make up for the loss of specialist James Posey.

• The big three of Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen start showing their age.

• The champs become complacent after winning their rings. The past six NBA champs each failed to defend their title.



The Rockets might win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

• Ron Artest brings his usual intensity to the defensive end while accepting his role as the third option behind Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady on offense.

• Brent Barry can provide veteran leadership and clutch shooting.

• They finally make it out of the first round.



The Rockets might not win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

• Ron Artest blows up the team chemistry.

• Tracy McGrady's back flare-ups get too serious or Yao suffers another injury.

• Rafer Alston can't come close to duplicating last season's success.



The Cavaliers might win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

• Newly acquired Mo Williams is truly the answer at the point.

• LeBron improves on his already off-the-chart statistics.

• Ben Wallace shows he has more left than just a nice afro.



The Cavaliers might not win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

• The Celtics' star trio stays healthy.

• They don't get LeBron some more help.

• Another team signs that dude who beat LeBron in H-O-R-S-E.

heyman321
09-11-2008, 05:03 PM
To be honest, I think Boston will repeat.

BigEric
09-11-2008, 05:25 PM
I'm liking Houston and New Orleans. I don't think an eastern team will contend, besides Boston.

cuttygiantsfan
09-11-2008, 05:30 PM
no spurs????


wow thats ********

futureman
09-11-2008, 05:37 PM
One would have to have the mentality of an 8 year old to imply that the HORNETS will be better than the Jazz. HELL, The jazz made it to the WCF BACK IN 07 WHICH FURTHER THAN WHERE THE HORNETS HAVE GONE, so he better act like the jazz exist and STFU. Hornets went 1-3 against the Jazz with one loss against a lousy jazz road team so they ARE NOT A THREAT

Posey never could do **** against a team like the jazz so he is no factor at all.

HOUSTON I think it's obvious that they are the inferior team and isn't better than because of some trade. we heard this same old **** last year with steve i'm all washed up francis. so to be the better team you have to BEAT the better team B I T C H E S.

CAVS are only contenders because they are in the east I think they are also a non factor even after they embarassed the league with the piss poor rating and performance that they had in the 07 finals. They are the most BORING team in the east and they were on tv so much it made me vomit. Everyone on that team bores me except for LBJ. He makes a boring team somewhat interesting to watch hence why they are the 2nd most boring in the NBA.

_Sn1P3r_
09-11-2008, 05:38 PM
For the West, it'll be a tight race b/w Houston, Lakers, and NO. Boston will come out on top in the East this year IMO.

Beno7500
09-11-2008, 05:46 PM
New Orleans

SensandRaps
09-11-2008, 05:52 PM
i think its lakers, jazz, hornets and rockets in that order competing in the west and in the east i think its celtics, cavaliers, raptors and pistons in that order

rapswin98
09-11-2008, 06:19 PM
oh ya the cavs are on the list but theres no sixers, pistons, raps, magic, spurs and etc, to many dam teams to name that are better than the cavs:mad:

Iodine
09-11-2008, 06:22 PM
Its an odd numbered year whih means tim duncan will get 99/87 and lead the spurs to the chip

ShaunRiching9
09-11-2008, 06:36 PM
Hornets All the way

Beno7500
09-11-2008, 06:36 PM
ESPN is starting to really annoy me.

ShaunRiching9
09-11-2008, 06:37 PM
^^^^^ i know man i agree

Iodine
09-11-2008, 06:40 PM
ESPN ******** since about 2001

LA_cabals
09-11-2008, 06:43 PM
Looks like you accidentally left this part out...


The Lakers might win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

The most famous pinkie in the history of hoops holds up. We've been hearing about Bryant's finger since February, and now he has opted against surgery because he doesn't want to miss any time this season with the team. Maybe this change of heart will lead to a quieter training camp for the Lakers or not.

Andrew Bynum regains last season's form. The Lakers were good enough to reach the NBA Finals last season and that was without their rapidly improving big man. Bynum injured his left knee eight months ago, but now says he is 100 percent healthy. If that's the case, watch out.

The bench mob -- minus Ronny Turiaf, who is now in Golden State -- once again provides quality minutes.

Hawkeye15
09-11-2008, 08:03 PM
Where is SA and Utah? Anyways, Celtics repeat coming up.

Hawkeye15
09-11-2008, 08:04 PM
ESPN is starting to really annoy me.

I bet they weren't annoying you 5 year ago when the Kings were awesome. They only cover the top teams. That is the way it is. If they put article after article of Atlanta, Memphis, Minnesota, OKC, etc, nobody would click their site

#1Mavericksfan
09-11-2008, 08:10 PM
They didn't even say anything about the Pistons...anyway I still think the Celtics have a good chance of wining it all again.

Hawkeye15
09-11-2008, 08:11 PM
They didn't even say anything about the Pistons...anyway I still think the Celtics have a good chance of wining it all again.

Why would they? They have underachieved since 03-04' badly, and they haven't done crap this offseason? They seem content on being that 3rd to 4th best team.

23LBJCleBrowns
09-11-2008, 08:29 PM
cavs r always a contender :-)

goku
09-11-2008, 09:18 PM
One would have to have the mentality of an 8 year old to imply that the HORNETS will be better than the Jazz. HELL, The jazz made it to the WCF BACK IN 07 WHICH FURTHER THAN WHERE THE HORNETS HAVE GONE, so he better act like the jazz exist and STFU. Hornets went 1-3 against the Jazz with one loss against a lousy jazz road team so they ARE NOT A THREAT

Posey never could do **** against a team like the jazz so he is no factor at all.

HOUSTON I think it's obvious that they are the inferior team and isn't better than because of some trade. we heard this same old **** last year with steve i'm all washed up francis. so to be the better team you have to BEAT the better team B I T C H E S.

CAVS are only contenders because they are in the east I think they are also a non factor even after they embarassed the league with the piss poor rating and performance that they had in the 07 finals. They are the most BORING team in the east and they were on tv so much it made me vomit. Everyone on that team bores me except for LBJ. He makes a boring team somewhat interesting to watch hence why they are the 2nd most boring in the NBA.

how can ron artest be compared to steve francis :confused:

knicks1214
09-11-2008, 09:21 PM
I think he means that there was hype when Francis went to the Rockets. Similar to the hype that Artest is getting now. However, Artest and Francis are two completely different players. Artest can score and play incredible defense. Francis was in a semi-decline and if he's not playing well on offense, he was useless because he was a liability on defense. What I'm trying to say is that Artest cannot be compared to Francis. Both are coming in with different expectations and are different types of players.

JordansBulls
09-11-2008, 09:54 PM
Looks like you accidentally left this part out...

Thanks, I thought I copied everything. Had to take off preparing for the hurricane due to hit.

prash
09-11-2008, 10:00 PM
I've been sayin this every year since 04-05 but this year is the Rockets year.

kobe24>jordan23
09-11-2008, 10:07 PM
lakers 09 champs...!!!!11

JordansBulls
09-11-2008, 10:09 PM
I've been sayin this every year since 04-05 but this year is the Rockets year.

I agree.

Antbanks21
09-11-2008, 10:14 PM
well like the experts said i believe the Lakers are the 2008-2009 NBA CHAMPIONS

JordansBulls
09-11-2008, 10:24 PM
well like the experts said i believe the Lakers are the 2008-2009 NBA CHAMPIONS

Well PSD thought that the Suns would win it all in 2007-2008 and the experts at ESPN thought so as well.

prash
09-11-2008, 10:24 PM
I agree.
Should be a fun season to watch for Rockets fans.

Epic89
09-11-2008, 11:36 PM
Cavs considered before the Pistons. Yeah, ok

Any way, I've got the Celtics repeating over The Hornets in 7

Vinny642
09-11-2008, 11:45 PM
One would have to have the mentality of an 8 year old to imply that the HORNETS will be better than the Jazz. HELL, The jazz made it to the WCF BACK IN 07 WHICH FURTHER THAN WHERE THE HORNETS HAVE GONE, so he better act like the jazz exist and STFU. Hornets went 1-3 against the Jazz with one loss against a lousy jazz road team so they ARE NOT A THREAT

Posey never could do **** against a team like the jazz so he is no factor at all.

HOUSTON I think it's obvious that they are the inferior team and isn't better than because of some trade. we heard this same old **** last year with steve i'm all washed up francis. so to be the better team you have to BEAT the better team B I T C H E S.

CAVS are only contenders because they are in the east I think they are also a non factor even after they embarassed the league with the piss poor rating and performance that they had in the 07 finals. They are the most BORING team in the east and they were on tv so much it made me vomit. Everyone on that team bores me except for LBJ. He makes a boring team somewhat interesting to watch hence why they are the 2nd most boring in the NBA.

A little mad?

barreleffact
09-11-2008, 11:47 PM
One would have to have the mentality of an 8 year old to imply that the HORNETS will be better than the Jazz. HELL, The jazz made it to the WCF BACK IN 07 WHICH FURTHER THAN WHERE THE HORNETS HAVE GONE, so he better act like the jazz exist and STFU. Hornets went 1-3 against the Jazz with one loss against a lousy jazz road team so they ARE NOT A THREAT

Posey never could do **** against a team like the jazz so he is no factor at all.

HOUSTON I think it's obvious that they are the inferior team and isn't better than because of some trade. we heard this same old **** last year with steve i'm all washed up francis. so to be the better team you have to BEAT the better team B I T C H E S.

CAVS are only contenders because they are in the east I think they are also a non factor even after they embarassed the league with the piss poor rating and performance that they had in the 07 finals. They are the most BORING team in the east and they were on tv so much it made me vomit. Everyone on that team bores me except for LBJ. He makes a boring team somewhat interesting to watch hence why they are the 2nd most boring in the NBA.

you are a huge hater. yes the jazz have a slim chance, but their chances are smaller than the spurs who also didnt make this list.

houston does have a chance. defensively they could be better than boston. their big 3 defenders are all around better and on offense you have tracey who is better than ray allen all around.

I agree, the cavs arent really credible.

but the if you hate on the hornets, you are out your mind. yes, the hornets may have a bad match-up against the jazz, but they play well against everyone else. the hornets finished 2nd in the west last year and are maturing and added posey who has won 2 odf the last 3 rings. he is an awsome defender and a good shooter. the hornets, thanks to cp3 alone, are just as scary as any team in the league

back to the jazz...they got demolished by the lakers who are soft and as a whole, the jazz are even more soft. AK47 doesnt really fit well with them mentaly and chemistry wise and he's one of their better players. williams is the biggest reason yall beat the hornets, because he plays harder...far harder against cp3 than anyone else he faces. he treats cp3 as a life challenge while deron is just another game to him. plus deron is stronger. i doubt they would win a series against the hornets though. i truley think cp3 would take over.

x_notorious
09-11-2008, 11:58 PM
Well PSD thought that the Suns would win it all in 2007-2008 and the experts at ESPN thought so as well.

Thing is, the Lakers went to the NBA Finals without Andrew Bynum who averaged a good 14/10/2 in 28 MPG last season before going down with injury. Big addition if you factor him in. Suns didn't make it to the Finals the year before last so they had nothing to show for. Lakers do, how ever. Adding experience plus talent IMO makes them stronger.

A physical big man in the paint next to the finesse playing Pau Gasol compliment each, IMO. I'm not overrating Bynum like most, though. I'll take it for what it is worth. 14/10/2 in 28 MPG last season. Until he shows that his knee is fine and that he could return to his form prior to the setback, he is just a double-double center in my eyes. I do however think that someday he could be a great center if he can stay healthy and live up the potential he has. He sure does have the tools around him to succeed..let's just see if he lives up to it.

Utahjazzfan18
09-12-2008, 12:31 AM
you are a huge hater. yes the jazz have a slim chance, but their chances are smaller than the spurs who also didnt make this list.

houston does have a chance. defensively they could be better than boston. their big 3 defenders are all around better and on offense you have tracey who is better than ray allen all around.

I agree, the cavs arent really credible.

but the if you hate on the hornets, you are out your mind. yes, the hornets may have a bad match-up against the jazz, but they play well against everyone else. the hornets finished 2nd in the west last year and are maturing and added posey who has won 2 odf the last 3 rings. he is an awsome defender and a good shooter. the hornets, thanks to cp3 alone, are just as scary as any team in the league

back to the jazz...they got demolished by the lakers who are soft and as a whole, the jazz are even more soft. AK47 doesnt really fit well with them mentaly and chemistry wise and he's one of their better players. williams is the biggest reason yall beat the hornets, because he plays harder...far harder against cp3 than anyone else he faces. he treats cp3 as a life challenge while deron is just another game to him. plus deron is stronger. i doubt they would win a series against the hornets though. i truley think cp3 would take over.

Ok first off there's no way the hornets beat the jazz in 7. The jazz might not match up against LA but they own the hornets. I still think the teams to beat are the Lakers, Celtics, and Spurs. If the jazz do get beat though, I actually hope the hornets win the title because I like their team.

Antbanks21
09-12-2008, 01:56 AM
you are a huge hater. yes the jazz have a slim chance, but their chances are smaller than the spurs who also didnt make this list.

houston does have a chance. defensively they could be better than boston. their big 3 defenders are all around better and on offense you have tracey who is better than ray allen all around.

I agree, the cavs arent really credible.

but the if you hate on the hornets, you are out your mind. yes, the hornets may have a bad match-up against the jazz, but they play well against everyone else. the hornets finished 2nd in the west last year and are maturing and added posey who has won 2 odf the last 3 rings. he is an awsome defender and a good shooter. the hornets, thanks to cp3 alone, are just as scary as any team in the league

back to the jazz...they got demolished by the lakers who are soft and as a whole, the jazz are even more soft. AK47 doesnt really fit well with them mentaly and chemistry wise and he's one of their better players. williams is the biggest reason yall beat the hornets, because he plays harder...far harder against cp3 than anyone else he faces. he treats cp3 as a life challenge while deron is just another game to him. plus deron is stronger. i doubt they would win a series against the hornets though. i truley think cp3 would take over.

those soft Lakers made it to the Finals and where were the Hornets??? and saying the jazz are soft, you're crazy man they were one of the most physical teams in the NBA last season.

TMAC94
09-12-2008, 02:04 AM
Houston

clutchfan
09-12-2008, 02:48 AM
.

ertanozgur
09-12-2008, 03:28 AM
hornets are still young for a championship..i think will get it

ertanozgur
09-12-2008, 03:29 AM
Lakers will win it

Lakersfan2483
09-12-2008, 03:49 AM
Top Teams Out West: Lakers, Hornets, Rockets, Spurs

Out East: Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, Orlando


It's tough to make predictions this early, the teams are not all set, but I do think the teams listed above are the top teams in both conferences.

I also believe Utah will be a force to be reckoned with.

If I had to predict the finals for next season: Lakers vs. Cavs. Cleveland was a game away from beating Boston, and they have gotten better with the pickup of Mo Williams. They will have time to gel during training camp and will be tough for the eastern teams to play.

futureman
09-12-2008, 08:35 AM
Ok so maybe steve francis isn't the same as ron artest but the hype last year was pretty out of control.

You have given yourselves a one year window, hope you don't have any injuries with landry gone.

goku
09-12-2008, 10:04 AM
Ok so maybe steve francis isn't the same as ron artest but the hype last year was pretty out of control.

You have given yourselves a one year window, hope you don't have any injuries with landry gone.

landry is not even tell me who has he signed with the rockets can match any offer he gets so he will be back

rockets have a 2-3 year window if artest signs back which he will do

b_russ
09-12-2008, 10:48 AM
forgive me if i'm wrong but doesn't san antonio win the championship about every other year or so. granit, they can't defend their championship when they win it, but if history repeats itself i'd say with old age and all that the spurs are going to take it this year. not too many are really expecting it, but
they're still a great team with a great coach who always seem to find a way.


williams is the biggest reason yall beat the hornets, because he plays harder...far harder against cp3 than anyone else he faces. he treats cp3 as a life challenge while deron is just another game to him. plus deron is stronger. i doubt they would win a series against the hornets though. i truley think cp3 would take over.

in response to the quote above, are you kidding me? "plus deron is stronger." you sound like the dad that is trying to stand up for his wussy son. "we'll get them next time son, come on, don't listen to them." it's people like you that make deron williams enjoy his job so much more when man handles chris paul.

Hawkeye15
09-12-2008, 11:29 AM
Ok first off there's no way the hornets beat the jazz in 7. The jazz might not match up against LA but they own the hornets. I still think the teams to beat are the Lakers, Celtics, and Spurs. If the jazz do get beat though, I actually hope the hornets win the title because I like their team.

how can the Hornets stand no chance against the Jazz??? That is ridiculous to claim. And you can pull all the head to head matchups on Paul Williams you want, they mean nothing come playoff time. They are both great teams, why wouldn't one have just as good a shot as the other. I think the Celtics beat the Hornets in 6 games for the ring

JordansBulls
09-12-2008, 11:51 AM
Ok so maybe steve francis isn't the same as ron artest but the hype last year was pretty out of control.

You have given yourselves a one year window, hope you don't have any injuries with landry gone.

If the Jazz could trade Brewer, Harpring and Korver and get Vince Carter I think they could take it.

agobbi17
09-12-2008, 12:14 PM
the rockets goonnnna wreck

Flash812
09-12-2008, 12:32 PM
One would have to have the mentality of an 8 year old to imply that the HORNETS will be better than the Jazz. HELL, The jazz made it to the WCF BACK IN 07 WHICH FURTHER THAN WHERE THE HORNETS HAVE GONE, so he better act like the jazz exist and STFU. Hornets went 1-3 against the Jazz with one loss against a lousy jazz road team so they ARE NOT A THREAT

Posey never could do **** against a team like the jazz so he is no factor at all.

HOUSTON I think it's obvious that they are the inferior team and isn't better than because of some trade. we heard this same old **** last year with steve i'm all washed up francis. so to be the better team you have to BEAT the better team B I T C H E S.

CAVS are only contenders because they are in the east I think they are also a non factor even after they embarassed the league with the piss poor rating and performance that they had in the 07 finals. They are the most BORING team in the east and they were on tv so much it made me vomit. Everyone on that team bores me except for LBJ. He makes a boring team somewhat interesting to watch hence why they are the 2nd most boring in the NBA.

What is the hate with the Hornets on your part? New Orleans doesn't feel the same against Utah even though they have every right to be becuase their Utah Jazz used to be the New Orleans Jazz and we supported that team well. Just think of it as the Jazz being under the radar this year. The reason people do feel the hornets are contender is becuase they had a good offseason and have 2 players that will develop into big time contributors this year (Julian Wright and Hilton Armstrong). The Jazz are a great team but it looks like the Hornets have surged past them, I wouldn't expect to see the Jazz dominate the Hornets this year, but we will see.

AllTheWay
09-12-2008, 01:01 PM
Lakers :)

The Anomoly
09-12-2008, 01:35 PM
The answer lies in The City of Angels

Lebron23
09-12-2008, 10:53 PM
Lakers vs. Cavaliers in the NBA Finals.

Iodine
09-12-2008, 10:55 PM
lawl

Fool
09-12-2008, 11:00 PM
The bench mob -- minus Ronny Turiaf, who is now in Golden State -- once again provides quality minutes.

ahhh.. LOL. Wow, I am soooo out of it. I don't get the internet...this sucks. :mad:

yojoe792
09-13-2008, 01:32 PM
New Orleans

OH MY GOD!!!!!!! A non-homer comment!!:clap:

Tom81
09-13-2008, 01:35 PM
ESPN is starting to really annoy me.

hehe yeah

G-Funk
09-13-2008, 02:01 PM
Lakers____________________________________________ _______Celtics
--vs.--------------------------------------------------------------vs.
Spurs_________ Lakers_________________________Celtics______Cavali ers
------------------vs.-------Lakers vs. Celtics--------vs.
Hornets________Rockets______._LAKERS_______-__Sixers________Sixers
---vs.-------------------------------------------------------------vs.
Rockets___________________________________________ _______-Pistons

yaowowrocket11
09-13-2008, 02:15 PM
At least the Rockets are getting some love.

G-Funk
09-13-2008, 03:06 PM
Rockets have a great chance

Cavs_Fan24
09-13-2008, 03:20 PM
oh ya the cavs are on the list but theres no sixers, pistons, raps, magic, spurs and etc, to many dam teams to name that are better than the cavs:mad:

i dont think any of those teams are better then the Cavs except for maybe the exception of San Antonio

Ballah0liC1
09-13-2008, 04:52 PM
One would have to have the mentality of an 8 year old to imply that the HORNETS will be better than the Jazz. HELL, The jazz made it to the WCF BACK IN 07 WHICH FURTHER THAN WHERE THE HORNETS HAVE GONE, so he better act like the jazz exist and STFU. Hornets went 1-3 against the Jazz with one loss against a lousy jazz road team so they ARE NOT A THREAT

Posey never could do **** against a team like the jazz so he is no factor at all.

HOUSTON I think it's obvious that they are the inferior team and isn't better than because of some trade. we heard this same old **** last year with steve i'm all washed up francis. so to be the better team you have to BEAT the better team B I T C H E S.
CAVS are only contenders because they are in the east I think they are also a non factor even after they embarassed the league with the piss poor rating and performance that they had in the 07 finals. They are the most BORING team in the east and they were on tv so much it made me vomit. Everyone on that team bores me except for LBJ. He makes a boring team somewhat interesting to watch hence why they are the 2nd most boring in the NBA.

wow we were missing yao and alston for 2 1/2 gms, and who the hell said francis would put us over the top, u guys did have the best team try to compare houstons bench this year and last oh wait u cant, as for artest why do jazz fans hate him so much oh thats cause he dominates u guys all the time

rapswin98
09-13-2008, 04:56 PM
i dont think any of those teams are better then the Cavs except for maybe the exception of San Antoniolebron ain't better than:o... i mean the cavs ain't better than the pistons, magic and spurs, maybe on the same level as raps and sixers.

HouRealCoach
09-13-2008, 06:03 PM
ROn Artest is being real Loyal as a Rocket right now

LakerzDQ
09-14-2008, 12:19 AM
why are the cavs even considered?
I think every single team that makes the playoffs in the west will be better than the cavs.

AllTheWay
09-14-2008, 12:31 AM
^ Why do you think? They have Lebron James, and the story is from ESPN. Put two and two together....

Lebron23
09-14-2008, 12:56 AM
Because the Cavaliers always whoop the candy @$$es of the Lakers in the regular season.

JOSETHEALLSTAR
09-18-2008, 11:40 PM
i like the Houston rockets