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SAVAGE CLAW
08-29-2008, 11:30 PM
Rose:

Bayless:

Oj Mayo:

Rudy Fernandez:

Danillo Ganillari:

Brandon Rush:

Michael Beasley:

Kevin Love:

Greg Oden:

Marc Gasol:


Thats ten, who does not get to Rookie all.star team (only 9 will)?.

hockeypro68
08-29-2008, 11:36 PM
Eric Gordon will be more impressive than at least half the rookies on that list.

ShaunRiching9
08-29-2008, 11:37 PM
Eric Gordon will be more impressive than at least half the rookies on that list.

Eric Gordon is lead your knicks back in to play off contenders in 2 or more years

yojoe792
08-29-2008, 11:38 PM
You can't expect anything out of rookies in their first year. I have 0 expectations.

SAVAGE CLAW
08-29-2008, 11:39 PM
Im talking long term.

$KnicksAndKobe$
08-29-2008, 11:58 PM
Rose: Might not improve in his shooting and have a really low fg%

Bayless: Has potential as a starter but is a undersized shooting guard in a team who already has a great sg starting for them.

Oj Mayo: TO, Fg%, streaky shooter is worst case for him.

Rudy Fernandez: Chucker, you saw what he did in the Olympics .. he likes taking fade aways

Danillo Ganillari: Might struggle at Defense because of his size even though he showed mad hustle in preseason.

Brandon Rush: Good possibility he might be similar at best as his brother Kareem Rush.

Michael Beasley:Might be very streaky and poor at D, attitude might be a huge problem

Kevin Love: Could be a bust because he likes shooting but is a PF, might be the 2nd coming of Blount at worst.

Greg Oden: Will be a defensive force who can dunk but career might shorten because of injury's and could be a poor post up scorer.

Marc Gasol:Might not be as good as his brother and be soft too. Needs to watch his weight and concentrate to get stronger.
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Those are just my "worst case scenarios" for these players as my opinion.

Ok since there is 10 players here ... then the one I choose that might not make the rookie/sophomore game is Fernandez because Portland will have trouble getting him minutues because of the Bayless/Outlaw/Webster situation.

marvILLous
08-30-2008, 12:06 AM
Eric Gordon is lead your knicks back in to play off contenders in 2 or more years

you mean clippers?? lol..

Hawkeye15
08-30-2008, 03:59 PM
Rose: Best case/ 14-6. Worst case/ 8-3, 25 mpg

Bayless: Best case 10-4. Worst case/ 5-2

Oj Mayo: Best case/ 11-3. Worst case/ 6-1

Rudy Fernandez: Best case/ 12 ppg. Worst case/ 5 ppg

Danillo Ganillari: Best case/ 10-4. Worst case/ 6-2

Brandon Rush: Best case/ 9-3. Worst case/ 4-1, 12 mpg

Michael Beasley: Best case/ 18-7. Worst case/ 14-5

Kevin Love: Best case/ 13-10. Worst case/ 8-6

Greg Oden: Best case/ 12-10. Worst case/ 6-6

Marc Gasol: Best case/ 11-5. Worst case/ 5-2

jgonboricua
08-30-2008, 04:23 PM
Rose: Best case/ 14-6. Worst case/ 8-3, 25 mpg

Bayless: Best case 10-4. Worst case/ 5-2

Oj Mayo: Best case/ 11-3. Worst case/ 6-1

Rudy Fernandez: Best case/ 12 ppg. Worst case/ 5 ppg

Danillo Ganillari: Best case/ 10-4. Worst case/ 6-2

Brandon Rush: Best case/ 9-3. Worst case/ 4-1, 12 mpg

Michael Beasley: Best case/ 18-7. Worst case/ 14-5

Kevin Love: Best case/ 13-10. Worst case/ 8-6

Greg Oden: Best case/ 12-10. Worst case/ 6-6

Marc Gasol: Best case/ 11-5. Worst case/ 5-2

those are horrible best case senarios...this is supposed to be one of the deepest drafts in years and your giving them role players stats at best

BullsNumber1Fan
08-30-2008, 04:25 PM
Rose: Best case/ 14-6. Worst case/ 8-3, 25 mpg

Bayless: Best case 10-4. Worst case/ 5-2

Oj Mayo: Best case/ 11-3. Worst case/ 6-1

Rudy Fernandez: Best case/ 12 ppg. Worst case/ 5 ppg

Danillo Ganillari: Best case/ 10-4. Worst case/ 6-2

Brandon Rush: Best case/ 9-3. Worst case/ 4-1, 12 mpg

Michael Beasley: Best case/ 18-7. Worst case/ 14-5

Kevin Love: Best case/ 13-10. Worst case/ 8-6

Greg Oden: Best case/ 12-10. Worst case/ 6-6

Marc Gasol: Best case/ 11-5. Worst case/ 5-2

Since when is Kevin Love better than Greg Oden?:confused:

Giannis94
08-30-2008, 04:27 PM
No Love for Joe Alexander!!!!!! He will be great in the future

MiamiHeat
08-30-2008, 06:03 PM
Michael Best scenario
18ppg 9rpg in his rookie year :pray:
Worst
12ppg 6rpg

ARMIN12NBA
08-30-2008, 06:16 PM
those are horrible best case senarios...this is supposed to be one of the deepest drafts in years and your giving them role players stats at best

I think he means that this is best case for their rookie years...Not for their entire career.

BADizzleBoY
08-30-2008, 06:35 PM
Eric Gordon will be more impressive than at least half the rookies on that list.

he will get around 9 ppg, good in college, but he will be on a lackluster team, who obviously doesnt know what they are doing

Kings Faithful
08-30-2008, 06:45 PM
I think you should add Jason Thompson up their....the guy can ball....he's got more potential than Danillo Ganiwienie

kntresistheheat
08-30-2008, 07:13 PM
I think beasley would emerge as a rookie, He would avg 18ppg and 8rpg and 1.1blks:D

Hawkeye15
08-30-2008, 07:21 PM
I think he means that this is best case for their rookie years...Not for their entire career.

exactly. By no means can you judge someone who has never played an NBA game on how their whole career will go

Hawkeye15
08-30-2008, 07:23 PM
Since when is Kevin Love better than Greg Oden?:confused:

First off, Oden plays on a better team, and will likely have some foul trouble as he figures things out. Secondly, I didn't put defensive stats, or overall defensive anything. Oden was drafted #1 for his defense. He will never be a great scorer, he has zero post moves except dunk. I think he is an offensively better version of Mutumbo, which is not a bad thing, most on these boards are too young to remember what Deke used to be, since he has played for 59 years.

BADizzleBoY
08-30-2008, 07:31 PM
^ :confused:

Oden was and has been recognized for having one of the best post game for a big man coming out of college... he was like 20th in the nation in ppg, he is great with his back to the basket, which makes him a good scorer..

$ NyC $
08-30-2008, 07:48 PM
Rose: 15 ppg 5 aspg

Bayless: 10 ppg

Oj Mayo: 17 ppg 2 rpg 3 aspg

Rudy Fernandez: depending on time..herd he will get a good amount...15 ppg 4 rpg 3 aspg

Danillo Ganillari: 13 ppg 4 rpg 2 aspg

Brandon Rush: depends..see him getting 11 ppg 3 and 3

Michael Beasley: 18 ppg 7 rpg

Kevin Love: 14 ppg 8 rpg

Greg Oden: 17 ppg 9 rpg 2 bpg

Marc Gasol: 12 ppg 7 rpg

ROOKIE YEARS

IndyRealist
08-30-2008, 08:07 PM
Best Case/Worst Case

Rose: Chris Paul/Raymond Felton

Bayless: Allen Iverson/Earl Boykins

Oj Mayo: Dwayne Wade/Larry Hughes

Rudy Fernandez: Chris Mullin/Saurnas Jasekivicus

Danillo Ganillari: Toni Kukoc/Jeff Hornacek

Brandon Rush: Bruce Bowen/Kareem Rush

Michael Beasley: Josh Smith/Stromile Swift

Kevin Love: Brad Miller/Eddie Curry

Greg Oden: Alonzo Mourning/Michael Olowakandi

Marc Gasol: Pau Gasol/Luc Longley


Thats ten, who does not get to Rookie all.star team (only 9 will)?.

Rudy Fernandez will probably not get playing time behind Roy and Bayless. Eric Gordon and Brook Lopez will get a lot of playing time this year, I don't see Kevin Love or Brandon Rush making the Rookie Team.

SensandRaps
08-30-2008, 08:11 PM
Michael Best scenario
18ppg 9rpg in his rookie year :pray:
Worst
12ppg 6rpg

i see his best and worst a bit differently
best
16ppg 10rpg
Worst
10ppg 7rpg

BullsNumber1Fan
08-30-2008, 08:11 PM
First off, Oden plays on a better team, and will likely have some foul trouble as he figures things out. Secondly, I didn't put defensive stats, or overall defensive anything. Oden was drafted #1 for his defense. He will never be a great scorer, he has zero post moves except dunk. I think he is an offensively better version of Mutumbo, which is not a bad thing, most on these boards are too young to remember what Deke used to be, since he has played for 59 years.

You are wrong. As someone already stated, Oden has a GREAT low post game. I think Oden's best case scenario is something like 16 ppg 11 rpg.

JOSETHEALLSTAR
08-30-2008, 08:21 PM
i think donte greene should be on the list

pwest6
08-30-2008, 08:22 PM
Michael Beasley: Josh Smith/Stromile Swift

Michael Beasley and Josh Smith have completely different games. The only thing they have in common is their left hand. Josh is the best athlete in the NBA not named LeBron and Michael Beasley is slow and pathetic. I don't know where you got that on from..

SAVAGE CLAW
08-30-2008, 10:01 PM
I didnt mean numbers, i mean comparing them to former players.

Hawkeye15
08-31-2008, 12:22 AM
You are wrong. As someone already stated, Oden has a GREAT low post game. I think Oden's best case scenario is something like 16 ppg 11 rpg.

Oden does not have a great low post game. He lives off drop steps, and dunks. He will not be a great NBA scorer. Defender, yes, I think so. But I don't see him ever averaging 20 ppg

Kyben36
08-31-2008, 01:13 AM
Rose: Dies in Car Crash

Bayless: cant get much worse then the Pacers, JK LOL

Oj Mayo: is BG.

Rudy Fernandez: Dies in plane Crash from Spain

Danillo Ganillari: is killed by Pissed off Knicks fans

Brandon Rush: Has Greg Oden fall on top of him then Dies

Michael Beasley: Does not trive because of size and position

Kevin Love: is another White Player

Greg Oden: Serious Knee injury ends Carrer

Marc Gasol: Is on the plane with Rudy Fernandez

PhillySportFan
08-31-2008, 01:27 AM
I think these kind of threads are pointless, really were just flat out guessing. I mean Oden and Kevin Love are both unproven and until they show up in the NBA they won't be proven players. Don't mean to spoil the party. lol

mrblisterdundee
08-31-2008, 01:32 AM
You can't expect anything out of rookies in their first year. I have 0 expectations.

Well, that makes at least one sensible person on this site.

innovator
08-31-2008, 03:19 AM
Rose: Best - 15 ppg, 7 apg : Worst - 0 ppg, 0 apg

Bayless: Best - 16 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

Oj Mayo: Best - 22 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

Rudy Fernandez: Best - 15 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

Danillo Ganillari:Best - 14 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

Brandon Rush: Best - 10 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

Michael Beasley: Best - 20 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

Kevin Love: Best - 18 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

Greg Oden: Best - 21 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

Marc Gasol: Best - 14 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

madiaz3
08-31-2008, 11:34 AM
I think you should add Jason Thompson up their....the guy can ball....he's got more potential than Danillo Ganiwienie

no he doesnt lol

HiphopRelated
08-31-2008, 05:37 PM
Michael Beasley and Josh Smith have completely different games. The only thing they have in common is their left hand. Josh is the best athlete in the NBA not named LeBron and Michael Beasley is slow and pathetic. I don't know where you got that on from..
Josh Smith doesn't have Beasley's offensive ability

blazers=future
09-01-2008, 03:46 AM
Rose: Best - 15 ppg, 7 apg : Worst - 0 ppg, 0 apg

Bayless: Best - 16 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

Oj Mayo: Best - 22 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

Rudy Fernandez: Best - 15 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

Danillo Ganillari:Best - 14 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

Brandon Rush: Best - 10 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

Michael Beasley: Best - 20 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

Kevin Love: Best - 18 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

Greg Oden: Best - 21 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

Marc Gasol: Best - 14 ppg : Worst - 0 ppg

I agree with all of these predictions...
I hope you're right with the best possible for Fernandez, Bayless and Oden because if that's true the Blazers are absolutely set!

DreamShaker
09-01-2008, 03:57 AM
Rose: He could be a HOF PG if he improves his shot and the stars align....

Bayless: A Ben Gordon type at best....

Oj Mayo: J-Rich??

Rudy Fernandez: Best case is the next Manu....worst case is the next Beno....

Danillo Ganillari: I honestly have no clue....I don't know anything about his game outside of being a nice passer....

Brandon Rush: Solid role player.

Michael Beasley: Could be a regular All-Star or could be the next Derrick Coleman....

Kevin Love: A few All-Stars at best....

Greg Oden: I think he's got the chance to be better than Ewing....

Marc Gasol: Solid role player.

blazers=future
09-01-2008, 03:58 AM
Bayless: Has potential as a starter but is a undersized shooting guard in a team who already has a great sg starting for them.

Rudy Fernandez: Chucker, you saw what he did in the Olympics .. he likes taking fade aways

Ok since there is 10 players here ... then the one I choose that might not make the rookie/sophomore game is Fernandez because Portland will have trouble getting him minutues because of the Bayless/Outlaw/Webster situation.

I agree with your point about Bayless but we'll have to wait and see if he can really play point in the NBA.
But as far as Fernandez being a chucker...
Are you joking!
The guy has been described as extremely tough... and did you not see his 22 against the US in the final including a pretty tough dunk on the NBA's best young center??
As for him struggling to get minutes read this:
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2008/08/rudy_fernandez_leaves_olympic.html

I think we have a Portland hater on our hands!

chi-town kid
09-01-2008, 07:35 PM
Erc Gordon will be a bust

bball1217
09-01-2008, 08:00 PM
Here is the best/worst case for these players, according to DraftExpress.com:
Rose: N/A/Devin Harris

Bayless: Monta Ellis (w/ better PG skills)/Louis Williams

Mayo: Chauncey Billups/Joe Forte

Fernandez: Kevin Martin/Sasha Vujacic

Gallinari: Hedo Turkoglu/Mike Dunleavy Jr.

Rush: Eddie Jones/Kelenna Azubuike

Beasley: Amare Stoudemire meets Antawn Jamison/Derrick Coleman

Love: David West/Sean May

Oden: David Robinson/Emeka Okafor

Gasol: Mehmet Okur/Marc Jackson

I agree with these pretty much.

IndyRealist
09-01-2008, 08:08 PM
Michael Beasley and Josh Smith have completely different games. The only thing they have in common is their left hand. Josh is the best athlete in the NBA not named LeBron and Michael Beasley is slow and pathetic. I don't know where you got that on from..

I like said, best case should he develop properly, he would be very similar to Josh Smith. I'm not downing Smith at all, I'm simply pointing out what he should strive for. Which was the point of the thread, after all. And if he really was slow and pathetic, he wouldn't have been a #2 pick. Considering you haven't posted any YouTube videos of you schooling Beasley on the court, I don't think the comments are particularly appropriate. If your name's not in the NBA lottery, I don't think you have any business saying that a permier athlete and is pathetic.

RoyalG333
09-01-2008, 08:14 PM
After watching the Olympics, Rudy Fernandez will be better than people think. I also think Eric Gordon will have more impact than people think. Jarred Bayless will be good too. I think Derrick Rose wont be as good as people think.