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mitch91
08-28-2008, 08:11 PM
it seems that there are some people out there in the psd world that do not rate melo at all some even go as far as saying he is not even top30!!

so i decided to see how the people out there rate carmelo anthony.

1-5?
6-10?
11-15?
16-20?
21-25?
other?

MiamiHeat
08-28-2008, 08:14 PM
11-15
He could probably make top 10

goku
08-28-2008, 08:14 PM
if he would get his teammates envolved more he would be a top 5 hes a top 10

mitch91
08-28-2008, 08:17 PM
11-15
He could probably make top 10
sounds about right. who would you say is infront of him?

AIMelo=KillaDUO
08-28-2008, 08:21 PM
I'm a Melo fan so people problley won't listen to me... about this.

I think Melo is tha 2nd best SF in tha league and he's only gonna get better each year he's been in tha league he's improved his game somehow. Even in his sophmore slump... he increased his FT% tha 2006 season, increased his scoring average by almost 7 points. 2007 increased his scoring to 29 PPG and averaged 4 assists, last season averaged a career high in rebounds, FT% and steals.

What I'm sayin is he still has ALOT f upside. He's only gonna get better, maybe just maybe next season his man-to-man defense will be better... Atleast I hope :pray: so his passing could imrove as well to, Not his actuall passes cuz I've seen him throw some Magic type passes but, I'm talkin about getting his teamates invovled.

knicks1214
08-28-2008, 08:22 PM
I say 11-15 also or top ten...depends on the rest of the positions. He is the 2nd best small forward in the NBA behind Lebron...no doubt about that.

MiamiHeat
08-28-2008, 08:23 PM
sounds about right. who would you say is infront of him?

in no order

Kobe
Lebron
Duncan
Wade
KG
Paul
Deron Williams
Paul Pierce
D-Howard
Amare

there's more players that could be better than him

superkegger
08-28-2008, 08:24 PM
hmm. I'd say Kobe, Lebron, Duncan, KG, Paul, Deron, Dwight, Tmac, Wade, Yao are all definetly better than him. After that though its kind of a toss up, I'd say he's easily top 20, probably top 15.

mitch91
08-28-2008, 08:27 PM
in no order

Kobe
Lebron
Duncan
Wade
KG
Paul
Deron Williams
Paul Pierce
D-Howard
Amare

there's more players that could be better than him

yeh i think those people are better than him but some people say he should be up there with those guys. and there are many names you havnet mentioned that some may consider to be better or worse than melo such as t-mac dirk steve nash a.i bosh brand and also alot of people say yao is better. its very debatable imo. i believe its very very close

superkegger
08-28-2008, 08:28 PM
yeh i think those people are better than him but some people say he should be up there with those guys. and there are many names you havnet mentioned that some may consider to be better or worse than melo such as t-mac dirk steve nash a.i bosh brand and also alot of people say yao is better. its very debatable imo. i believe its very very close

agreed. It's very close.

mitch91
08-28-2008, 08:28 PM
wish this could have been a poll

mitch91
08-28-2008, 08:31 PM
agreed. It's very close.

thats the reason i would like this to be a poll so that we can see what the final verdict on it would be. its so debatable and i no iv already said that lol but it so is. like scoring ability he's one of the best but his D is weak though hes still young and can rebound well and it actually seemed like in the olympics he actually played some D.

i used to think he was consider by most as one of the top guys but it has seemed to have changed

mitch91
08-28-2008, 08:38 PM
does anyone know how i can get this to be made a poll?
i just think this is interesting cuz its so close

MiamiHeat
08-28-2008, 08:40 PM
you can't a Mod gotta fix it for you

AIMelo=KillaDUO
08-28-2008, 08:56 PM
Deron Williams is NOT better than Melo

mitch91
08-28-2008, 09:01 PM
you can't a Mod gotta fix it for you

so iv gota get mod flanders to make this a poll?

mitch91
08-28-2008, 09:02 PM
Deron Williams is NOT better than Melo

seems like most people believe he is. seems pg's are the big thing nowadays

LakeShowRaider
08-28-2008, 09:15 PM
His talent is top 5...his attitude combined with his talent make him a top 15 player in the league.

_Sn1P3r_
08-28-2008, 09:22 PM
I agree. ^^ He could be a top ten player in the league though no doubt.

SensandRaps
08-28-2008, 09:30 PM
i think melo is a top 15 player in the league

JordansBulls
08-28-2008, 10:48 PM
Poll Added

BRADfromOZ
08-28-2008, 10:56 PM
I think he'd just scrape into the top 20, maybe 17th or 18th.

Beno7500
08-28-2008, 11:27 PM
Top 30

97'bulls
08-28-2008, 11:49 PM
He's a great scorer and an incredible talent. However he has not yet shown that he can win in the playoffs.

bogdanrom
08-28-2008, 11:57 PM
I say he's top 15 but he could easily be a top 10 player. He needs to improve his passing, his attitude and his fighting skills. He fight like a witch with a b.

CowboysKB24
08-28-2008, 11:57 PM
in no order

Kobe
Lebron
Duncan
Wade
KG
Paul
Deron Williams
Paul Pierce
D-Howard
Amare

there's more players that could be better than him

Bosh
Dirk
Baron Davis
Agent 0

CowboysKB24
08-28-2008, 11:58 PM
top 20-15

97'bulls
08-29-2008, 12:08 AM
Bosh
Dirk
Baron Davis
Agent 0

he's better than Amare, Baron, and Gilbert

Ph1lly Diehard
08-29-2008, 12:23 AM
Deron Williams is NOT better than Melo

I think he is.

Anyhow, Melo is top 15, probably around 13 in my mind, maybe 14-15

mikedesi1004
08-29-2008, 12:38 AM
top 15

cmoneytakemoney
08-29-2008, 12:47 AM
in no order

Kobe
Lebron
Duncan
Wade
KG
Paul
Paul Pierce
Deron Williams
D-Howard
Amare

there's more players that could be better than him

I agree with everyone on your list being better than Melo but, I think there's a few more players better than him because Melo still can be selfish at times and will shoot contested shots instead of passing. I'm just going to throw a few players names out that play the same position as Carmelo the SG/SF and compare them. Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, and Paul Pierce will wait til the double team comes and dish it off to the open guy or make the other team pay if they don't double team them by shooting over the single defender or blowing right by the defender and taking it hard to the basket and either score or get fouled and go to the free throw line for the 2 or the 3 point play and all 3 of those guys have perfected that but, Melo seems like he tries to be the hero too much and would rather shoot when he's doubled instead of dishing it to a teammate. He also takes a lot of bad shots every game. Like he'll throw up a 3 on a fast break before there's any of his teammates under the hoop so there's no chance of getting the rebound if he misses the shot or, the Nuggets will get the ball down the court and start to run their half court offense and they'll pass it to Melo and he'll automatically throw the ball up and you can tell that was not the designed play and, he's also not even close as good defensively as Kobe, Lebron, And Pierce are. I think he will eventually learn how to be more of a complete team player and might even win an MVP award someday but, he still has quite a bit to learn before he becomes an elite player in the league. I put him at #15 in the league right now.

#1-Kobe
#2-Lebron
#3-Duncan
#4-KG
#5-CP3
#6-Pierce
#7-Wade
#8-Nash
#9-Deron Williams
#10-D. Howard
#11-Amare
#12-AI
#13-Chauncey Billups
#14-Joe Johnson
#15-Melo

cmoneytakemoney
08-29-2008, 01:06 AM
he's better than Amare, Baron, and Gilbert

He most definitely is not better than Amare and he's real close to Baron Davis and Agent Zero. I say he's better than Baron not Arenas but, I'm sure there is quite a few people that would say he's not better than all 3 of em. Melo has a lot to learn. He's very selfish, he needs to work on his defense, and he's not a clutch player at all and, Gilbert Arenas and Baron Davis both are clutch players, we've seen it time and time again with those 2.

cmoneytakemoney
08-29-2008, 01:09 AM
Deron Williams is NOT better than Melo

LOL UR FUNNY DUDE. YOUR JOKING RIGHT? YOU MUST BE CUZ ANYONE WHO WATCHES BASKETBALL KNOWS THAT DERON IS BETTER THAN MELO.

RocketsRule
08-29-2008, 01:20 AM
Melo is a top 15 player in my mind.

He has the ability to score at will, whether that be from the the outside or inside. He has a silky smooth jumper to stretch out the defense, can blow by his defender and get to the rim, and even post up smaller players. He can also rebound fairly well, averaging a game last year. The part of his game that really needs his work, however, would be his defense. He is known to get lazy on defense, and let his man beat him to the bucket. He isn't the worst defender in the world, but it certainly needs some improvement.

SeoulBeatz
08-29-2008, 01:55 AM
Top 30

hater

top 15

cmoneytakemoney
08-29-2008, 02:00 AM
Melo is a top 15 player in my mind.

He has the ability to score at will, whether that be from the the outside or inside. He has a silky smooth jumper to stretch out the defense, can blow by his defender and get to the rim, and even post up smaller players. He can also rebound fairly well, averaging a game last year. The part of his game that really needs his work, however, would be his defense. He is known to get lazy on defense, and let his man beat him to the bucket. He isn't the worst defender in the world, but it certainly needs some improvement.

Your exactly right about his defense and that's what separates Kobe, Lebron, Pierce, and Wade from Melo. That's why they're in the 6 or 7 and, Melo is in the high teens like 15th, 16th, or 17th. It's his lazy defense and his poor shot selection and I mean very poor shot selection. I'm sure he'll grow up a bit and start getting better but, George Karl isn't the greatest defensive coach in the NBA. In fact one could argue that he is the worst defensive coach in the NBA. Just imagine if the dumba$s Pistons would have drafted Melo instead of Darko? Carmelo would probably be one of the top defensive SF's in basketball and a much better team player. Until Melo improves his defense and starts being a better team player that gets his teammates involved in the game instead of jacking up contested shots and trying to be the hero of the day then he'll never be up there with Kobe, Lebron, Pierce, and Wade. The Nuggets need to get a team defensive minded head coach in there like Flip Saunders because we all know the Nuggets can score with any team but, they just give up way too many points. Fire George Karl and Melo will benefit greatly from it, mark my words.

Fireworld
08-29-2008, 02:50 AM
Top 20 till he plays D.

ertanozgur
08-29-2008, 03:00 AM
i dont like that kind of players...very talented but never use it ...i bet he will never win a ring

DreamShaker
08-29-2008, 03:03 AM
He's a great scorer and an incredible talent. However he has not yet shown that he can win in the playoffs.

Not many people have really...alot of the guys above him are not exactly wizards of sucess in the playoffs....

J-Relo
08-29-2008, 03:51 AM
at his best - top 10

S.J.Basketball
08-29-2008, 03:54 AM
Melo's game is frustrating. He has moments where he is brilliant, but he does so much STUPID CRAP ALL THE TIME it just covers up the good things about him. He just needs to make smart plays and stop being a bonehead on the court and he will easily be a top 10. Until then I say top 20 @ best.

Lakersfan2483
08-29-2008, 04:05 AM
Melo is not a top ten player, but he's in the top 15.

Tom81
08-29-2008, 05:34 AM
Top 20

amare#1
08-29-2008, 06:21 AM
He is a great offensive player... very versatile. Hes got a great shot and can also get it done in the post. He's also an awesome offensive rebounder for his size. If he started racking up some more assists, so that he was averaging 5 assists per game, he would be considered a top 15, top 10 player in my opinion. He also needs to lift his game on defense... he is fairly lazy and sluggish on D and this disadvantages him.

Faneik
08-29-2008, 06:25 AM
Melo is a top-15 talent, I just question his attitude...

Honestly, I wouldn't want him as my franchise player... Too lazy on D.

eso
08-29-2008, 10:01 AM
My Thoughts are top 20 at best.
D team play and work ethic are his killer top 5 in scoring but bball aint just about scoring. Jamal Mashburn comes to mind when i think of Melo
buy his shoes though best bball shoes ive owned they are the Jordan Melo ones sweeeet...

marques724
08-29-2008, 10:02 AM
He is in the top 15.

ertanozgur
08-29-2008, 11:34 AM
top 30

Sixerlover
08-29-2008, 11:37 AM
Sucks that he doesn't play and D, and has a terrible attitude. He is a hell of a scorer, but I'd take a couple SF's over him meaning he'd probably be top 15-20 around there.

DreamShaker
08-29-2008, 01:08 PM
Sucks that he doesn't play and D, and has a terrible attitude. He is a hell of a scorer, but I'd take a couple SF's over him meaning he'd probably be top 15-20 around there.

Well if Pierce could change the way he played when he was 30 I think Melo could change when he's like....23 or 24....let's hope he does!

bostncelts34
08-29-2008, 03:07 PM
id say top 20.

But ranking anywhere from 10-20. All depends whos rating, and how their rating..

After the superstars (kobe,kg,duncan,wade,paul) You could place guys like Pierce,williams,howard,amare,yao and carmello..and so on.. in many diffrent ways. so tis hard to say, depends on how thata player has performed recently i guess,t hats how 99.9% of people judge players.

SwaggaIke
08-29-2008, 04:38 PM
He's on the edge of the top 10 to me. One of the most versatile players in the league offensively. He's probably the best PURE scorer in the league. Definitely needs to become a better leader and defender though.

rapswin98
08-29-2008, 06:29 PM
top 15 player might be even lower. he sleeps on defense.

MrThrowBack23
08-30-2008, 12:31 PM
Melo is better then Pierce yall just sayin pierce is better cause he won a title wit kg n allen a yr or so ago there was a poll dat asked who is better melo or pierce n more den half of u said melo and melo is on the upside and pierce already hit his prime pierce might b better defensivley but defiently not offensively

$ NyC $
08-30-2008, 12:50 PM
If he showed more heart...didn't just throw up shots and played D and played hard and shared the ball more i would put him top 10 and even maybe top 5...but i remember watching that series with the Lakers all he did was throw up bricks and hog the ball..

NewY0rk Knicks
08-30-2008, 12:56 PM
how good is melo?? lol i don't think thats a question.. i think he sucks!! after what he caused at the garden last year i wouldn't trade mardy collins for him, and its sterns fault also for allowin him to play in the all-star game, rules are rules, he's over rated, thank god they traded camby so at least he doesn't have to play with 2 stubborn players (iverson-carmelo)i would rate melo at least number 40..

SeoulBeatz
08-30-2008, 01:10 PM
how good is melo?? lol i don't think thats a question.. i think he sucks!! after what he caused at the garden last year i wouldn't trade mardy collins for him, and its sterns fault also for allowin him to play in the all-star game, rules are rules, he's over rated, thank god they traded camby so at least he doesn't have to play with 2 stubborn players (iverson-carmelo)i would rate melo at least number 40..

lol are u serious?


like i admit I hate paul pierce (just cus he plays for boston)

but even so, u have to respect their skill.

Id trade for paul pierce even though i hate him, to say otherwise is just dumb, and stubborn.

that fight melo got into at the garden was funny cus he was a lil *****, but to say that hes only top 40 makes me question ur knowledge of basketball.

dre1990
08-30-2008, 01:30 PM
he's in the top 10 or 11. he's the 2nd best SF in the game

Sixerlover
08-30-2008, 01:33 PM
I like LeBron, Pierce and maybe Butler before Melo

mitch91
08-30-2008, 01:41 PM
Poll Added

thanks for the poll being added

mitch91
08-30-2008, 01:42 PM
Top 30

i beg of you to name the 29 other players better than melo!

mitch91
08-30-2008, 01:43 PM
#1-Kobe
#2-Lebron
#3-Duncan
#4-KG
#5-CP3
#6-Pierce
#7-Wade
#8-Nash
#9-Deron Williams
#10-D. Howard
#11-Amare
#12-AI
#13-Chauncey Billups
#14-Joe Johnson
#15-Melo[/QUOTE]

id take melo over jj and chauncey personally

MELO 15
08-30-2008, 01:59 PM
Never Mind This Comment

MELO 15
08-30-2008, 02:01 PM
Your a knicks fan, that alone speaks 4 itself. I went to a knicks vs nuggets game, My brother didn't know what was the big deal about Melo, but when the game was over, his words were WOW. And now he doesn't ever question anymore. Paul Pierce said that melo at this stage in his career was better than he was. Artest said he is the toughest guy to guard in the league. Kobe said Melo is one of the best. IF U were to ask the players in the NBA, Including wade, lebron, cp3, and theyed say Melo is top 10 in this league. 4 those that say he isn't clutch, knows nothing about the game. GO TO UTUBE and type in melo's game winners. look at the head to heads with lebron and melo going back to HS and melo has won more. or wade and melo, melo has won more. people made a big deal when wade led usa in scoring. but where were all u guys when melo broke the usa record 4 scoing, when he led them in scoring two years straight. Top 10 people.

Afridi786
08-30-2008, 02:01 PM
#1-Kobe
#2-Lebron
#3-Duncan
#4-KG
#5-CP3
#6-Pierce
#7-Wade
#8-Nash
#9-Deron Williams
#10-D. Howard
#11-Amare
#12-AI
#13-Chauncey Billups
#14-Joe Johnson
#15-Melo

id take melo over jj and chauncey personally[/QUOTE]

ur overrating kg and pierce.

MELO 15
08-30-2008, 02:41 PM
everyone has weaknesses thats what makes these guys humans, T mac has weaknesses he's never been out of the first round, and he's been in the league for 13 years maybe more. cp3, wade and lebron, need to work on there jump shots,D12 has no finnese he is bad at the line, and is a liability when the game is close, amare is not a factor without nash, nash can't play D, But its this obsession of not giving melo his due. if U dislike a player, like me I dislike kobe but I know that he is what he is and thats the best. so if U dislike Melo for some reason thats ok, but give credit where its due. Melo is the purest scorer in the NBA, and for that he atleast deserves 10, and thats because of the D he lacks

Jay22Redd
08-30-2008, 03:30 PM
I put him in the top 25 or 30

bigmac8675
08-30-2008, 04:21 PM
I feel honored that this thread was made in my honor because I came out and said "maybe top 30".... even though like 20 minutes later I actually thought about it and made a list and he came out to be #20 IMO.
So even though it was a bit harsh to say top 30... i stand corrected, but he is still only #20, give or take 3 spots on peoples opinions.

mitch91
08-30-2008, 07:58 PM
id take melo over jj and chauncey personally

ur overrating kg and pierce.[/QUOTE]

they wernt my picks

mitch91
08-30-2008, 08:02 PM
I feel honored that this thread was made in my honor because I came out and said "maybe top 30".... even though like 20 minutes later I actually thought about it and made a list and he came out to be #20 IMO.
So even though it was a bit harsh to say top 30... i stand corrected, but he is still only #20, give or take 3 spots on peoples opinions.

at least your man enough to admit you were wrong. but it seems like give or take 5spots and its seems most people are picking top15 as its in the middle. its still very close and most people still arent decided on him imo

i think you can have him anywere from say 6 or 7 to 16 or 18 as there are so many players that are so close to eachother. there is that top few that everybody agrees are the best but then there is the rest and its a battle between them

UK Bull
08-31-2008, 07:26 AM
Top 20

michaellui11
08-31-2008, 07:46 AM
he's ****

$ NyC $
08-31-2008, 09:08 AM
you know Melo isn't one of the best 4 a reason...i wouldn't want 2 build my franchise around Melo...in the future maybe...but at this stage in his Career he's a good scorer and good rebounder but thats about it...with his talent/size he should be getting more assists/be less selfish/and play better D...if he just improves his D a little and his selfishness he will definitely be a top 5 player

cmellofan15
08-31-2008, 01:54 PM
The best player ever except Vujacic of course...

Lebron23
09-16-2008, 10:46 AM
Melo will become a top 6 player in the NBA if the Nuggets will fire George Karl's fat @$$. Nuggets need a real defensive coach ala Jerry Sloan or Larry Brown.

ShakeN'Bake
09-16-2008, 11:03 AM
Top 20

JIDsanity
09-16-2008, 12:32 PM
He's in the top 10, looking out the top 5. No way he reaches Mike James (He's a level all his own) Mike James can not be topped, only matched. No one will ever match Mike James

bball1217
09-16-2008, 03:07 PM
He is good for top 10 usually.

$ NyC $
09-16-2008, 03:27 PM
maybe 8..i said top 15 4 sure..his defense and attitude need major work. Especially his work ethic.

IndyRealist
09-16-2008, 03:56 PM
I'm a firm believer in statistical analysis.
http://www.wagesofwins.com/MVPAllNBA2008.html

I will say that Melo had a very, very off year last year.

knowledgeGOD
09-16-2008, 04:27 PM
top 15

Leftcoast_yg
09-17-2008, 03:33 AM
sorry but i would take any of these guys over him:
1.kobe
2.lebron
3.wade
4.duncan
5.KG
6.yao
7.pierce
8.A.i.
9.bosh
10.amare
11.boozer
12.cp3
13.deron williams
14.nash
15.nowvitzki
16.b diddy
17.manu
18.artest
19.D.howard
20.josh howard
21.richard jefferson
22.josh smith
23.elton brand
24.gerald wallace
25.michael redd
not in that order but anyone of those guys i will take over melo, and i meant to vote him at top 30

Kohaku
09-20-2008, 01:36 AM
Easily top 10. He just needs to work on defense.

yojoe792
09-20-2008, 01:40 AM
He's good.

I'm not gonna rank him, he's kind of a strange player, but a real good player.

LakerzDQ
09-20-2008, 07:20 AM
as most people say, I believe he barely makes it to top 15. In my mind, he's top 14-15. Kobe, Bron, Duncan, Garnett, CP3, Yao, Dwight, Amare, Wade, Dirk, T-mac, Bosh, Pierce are better than him.

DenButsu
09-20-2008, 09:00 AM
I'm a firm believer in statistical analysis.
http://www.wagesofwins.com/MVPAllNBA2008.html

I will say that Melo had a very, very off year last year.

I don't know what hokey statistical formula is used to concoct that list, but what a joke.

Anybody who thinks that Marcus Camby is more responsible for the Nuggets winning games last season (or ANY season) than Melo or AI - and by that big of a margin - simply has never watched the team play.

Stats of course can be useful, but first and foremost the methodology of the stat and its true ability to measure what it's claiming to measure has to be sound. The first sign that it's not is when the bright, shining, dazzling light of reality is screaming, "That's not right, that's not right!"

There were only two dark spots in Melo's 2007-08 season - his December slump, and (of course) the Nuggets' dismal playoff outing. True, his scoring dropped, but that was an inevitable result of playing a full season alongside AI. Meanwhile, his 3-point shot dramatically improved, he made a bit of headway with his overall efficiency as well (save only for FT shooting), his rebounding improved markedly, and although his assists dropped slightly, his turnovers did, too (or, in other words, playing a full season next to AI, he handled the ball less overall). His defense was nothing to write home about of course, but that's not a change from any previous season.

I don't know how that site arrives at their "WP48" stat, or why you interpret those numbers as a crappy season for Melo, but both the notion that Camby did so much more than Melo (and also AI, for that matter) to help the Nuggets win games, and the notion that Melo "had a very, very off year" just simply could not be further from the truth.

DenButsu
09-20-2008, 09:04 AM
In this post (http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5102445&postcount=16) I went into more detail about Melo's production.